Humax PVR-9150T 160GB Digital TV Recorder - £97.86 at ARGOS - HotUKDeals
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* Black.

* 160GB hard disc drive.

* Maximum recording time 100 hours.

* Twin tuner.

* Pause Live TV.

* Record 1/watch another.

* Can record 2 channels at the same time.

* Series record.

* Digitally interactive.

* Digital text.

* RF loop.

* Digital video broadcasting (DVB) subtitles available.

* Auto set-up.

* Now and next electronic programme guide (EPG).

* 8 days electronic programme guide (EPG).

* 2 SCART sockets.

* SCART lead.

* Freeview playback approved, group 2.

* Remote control requires AAA batteries, included.

* Size (H)5.5, (W)36, (D)25.5cm.

* Weight 2.5kg.
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#2
this is a great deal, security of argos and twin tuner with series record...bargain!
#3
Isn't this the PVR with major glitches etc?
#4
a good deal, i have the older model which is ace, i need another one but am tempted to egt th thing for the ps3 instead which does the same thing.
#5
moob
Isn't this the PVR with major glitches etc?


Humax are by far the best PRV's, have had a single tuner version for years with no problems. Just lucky to pick up yesterday the older but better 9200 from the PC world sale for £85
banned#6
moob;3858110
Isn't this the PVR with major glitches etc?

no glitches except excessively loud fan noise. Cured by installing the latest software update.

Manual here:-

http://www.humaxdigital.com/GLOBAL/products/new_manual/PVR9150T(UK)_200GB.pdf

Video review :-

http://www.pvrjunction.co.uk/video/hum91/hum91.html

Features:-

http://www.pvrjunction.co.uk/compare/furtherinfo.html

2 YEAR WARRANTY INCLUDED
banned#7
jpd1;3858177
Humax are by far the best PRV's, have had a single tuner version for years with no problems. Just lucky to pick up yesterday the older but better 9200 from the PC world sale for £85

note that the 9200 is a four year old model whereas the 9150 was first produced in Jul 08.
1 Like #8
jpd1
Humax are by far the best PRV's, have had a single tuner version for years with no problems. Just lucky to pick up yesterday the older but better 9200 from the PC world sale for £85


You were lucky! It's a far better machine than the new models, which receive enormous numbers of complaints about the fan noise. I know there's a firmware update, but my guess is that all that will do by slowing the fan down is cause overheating problems. Looks like a badly designed product, which is a shame because the old ones were excellent.
#9
csiman
no glitches except excessively loud fan noise. Cured by installing the latest software update.



Except that slowing the fan down is likely to cause overheating problems. It was designed for a certain level of cooling, and it won't get that with a slower fan speed.
#10
moob
Isn't this the PVR with major glitches etc?


Nope, we have the older 9200 which has the same firmware and it is, on the whole, excellent. There are a few niggles but none are too major. The main gripe is the time it takes for the epg to load.

I bought my parents a 9150 as a christmas present and it seems fine except, unlike the 9200, the fan is a bit noisy. This isn't an issue for my parents as my dad needs the telly up quite loud, though if you tend to listen with the volume down low then imho it would be a problem. I think maybe that there is a firmware due to be released which will address the noisy fan.
banned#11
Newbold;3858213
Except that slowing the fan down is likely to cause overheating problems. It was designed for a certain level of cooling, and it won't get that with a slower fan speed.

not true at all. The new smart fan control operates only when required rather than being permanently on.

Do you really think they'd put an update out that could potentially damage their own units or cause a fire?

Check the hummy forums and nobody has reported overheating problems anywhere.
#12
9200s often came with VERY noisy fans indeed - mine went straight back to John Lewis who said the din was "normal" so I got my money back. At least with the poorly designed 9150/9300 they later worked out a software fix for their incompetence = MAJOR progress but still totally astonishing to me that they keep getting it SO wrong.

Allegedly 9150s dated Oct 08 come with the improved firmware already installed, otherwise you either need to wait for a software update over the airwaves or download it from Humax's site to your PC and RS232 serial cable it to the box (now THATs old technology lol).
#13
mk-donald
9200s often came with VERY noisy fans indeed


Ours didn't the hard-drive is the most noticeable sound from it.
#14
Newbold
Except that slowing the fan down is likely to cause overheating problems. It was designed for a certain level of cooling, and it won't get that with a slower fan speed.


csiman
not true at all. The new smart fan control operates only when required rather than being permanently on.

Do you really think they'd put an update out that could potentially damage their own units or cause a fire?

Check the hummy forums and nobody has reported overheating problems anywhere.


I take your point, but I'm not in any way suggesting that the overheating will cause a fire. I am suggesting, though, that the unit was designed with a certain level of cooling, and that reducing that level of cooling will lead to problems. Not now, obviously, but over a period of time.

The reason nobody has (yet) reported any overheating problems is that they won't yet have shown up. These things rarely do show up for quite a while. As for Humax being concerned about damaged units, I think their concerns will run out at about the same time the warranty runs out.

The design life of these machines will have been calculated on the original cooling capability. Anything less than that is a compromise which is likely to cause problems over time.
#15
My mother has had two refurbished 9200s both problematic which she bought from humax direct. Crashing and other problems. Don't buy a refurbished 9200 is all I can say.
#16
i have had one of these for over a year and it is anexcellent bit of kit. i would def reccommend it to you as i paid a £170 for mine.
banned#17
Newbold
Except that slowing the fan down is likely to cause overheating problems. It was designed for a certain level of cooling, and it won't get that with a slower fan speed.


sorry but you are talking rubbish. actually, I'm not sorry.
#18
I've had a 9200T for one or two years now and I've never noticed the fan or any other noise coming from it. There is a very slight hum which is only noticable when the room is silent. I don't know what the newer machines are like but I would buy another Humax any day as they are great. The only thing that might put me off is their lack of Mac support but, there are ways around that. Voted hot. :)
1 Like #19
vibeone
sorry but you are talking rubbish. actually, I'm not sorry.


That seems a little harsh. Based on my knowledge of the insides of a Humax, the component parts will function best and longest at a lower temperature, and the fan is one of the main ways to achieve that lower temperature. When you disable the fan the temperature will rise and the component parts will be worse off. Even if it does kick back in when the temperature reaches a certain point, the components will have become hotter than if the fan were on full-time.
#20
gaz12000;3859291
i have had one of these for over a year and it is anexcellent bit of kit. i would def recommend it to you as i paid a £170 for mine.


I think you must mean the 9200 as these 9150s haven't been out that long.
#21
Do these work with Virgin Media?
#22
[quote=Cyb;3859460]Do these work with Virgin Media?[/quote

No. You can only record from its own Freeview tuners.
#23
Except that slowing the fan down is likely to cause overheating problems. It was designed for a certain level of cooling, and it won't get that with a slower fan speed.


This may or may not be true but these kind of machines are generally a bit over-engineered for cooling because they have to worry about people who stack them in entertainment units with little to no air flow.

That's why there were so many problems with the Xboxes. They didn't build the margin in and people baked their consoles by inadvertently creating ovens for them.
#24
No fan noise from our 9200 now 2 years old with the latest firmware. its a solid dependble machine the only 2 minuses are that (as mentioned) the EPG takes about 5-10 minutes to load when you take it out of standby and also sometimes (not very oftern) it starts recording a programme a few seconds too late.

The second point you will find with any freeview 'playback' PVR as it relies on a 'marker' signal being sent out from the broadcaster so not the Hummys fault. In fact its probably a plus point more than anything, because it means that if an item is rescheduled (late running news etc.) it will pick it up at the right time. You can of course turn this feature off.
banned#25
Botchulism
That seems a little harsh. Based on my knowledge of the insides of a Humax, the component parts will function best and longest at a lower temperature, and the fan is one of the main ways to achieve that lower temperature. When you disable the fan the temperature will rise and the component parts will be worse off. Even if it does kick back in when the temperature reaches a certain point, the components will have become hotter than if the fan were on full-time.

You could say that based on your knowledge of any electrical product though. These are no worse or better than any other model - well actually they are probably better.

The fan will make such little difference whether its on full, or acting as a "smart fan" that you will want a new box in the years it takes to notice any difference.
#26
Botchulism
That seems a little harsh. Based on my knowledge of the insides of a Humax, the component parts will function best and longest at a lower temperature, and the fan is one of the main ways to achieve that lower temperature. When you disable the fan the temperature will rise and the component parts will be worse off. Even if it does kick back in when the temperature reaches a certain point, the components will have become hotter than if the fan were on full-time.


vibeone
You could say that based on your knowledge of any electrical product though. These are no worse or better than any other model - well actually they are probably better.

The fan will make such little difference whether its on full, or acting as a "smart fan" that you will want a new box in the years it takes to notice any difference.


To quote your earlier, superbly well researched comment: "sorry but you are talking rubbish. actually, I'm not sorry".

The fan was put there for a reason. There is absolutely no evidence that Humax overdesign their products - why would they? If you find that people are compaining about the noise from the fan, and then 'resolve' the problem by reducing the time the fan's working, it's pretty obvious that the fan isn't going to be providing the cooling it was designed to provide. So it will get hotter inside. So its working life will be shorter than it was designed to be.

What are your arguments for saying otherwise please?
#27
Excellent product, I've had a 9200 for two years and would definitely buy another Humax.
#28
I don't suppose these have a USB slot on them which you can play back DivX from/copy DivX to the HD and play back from there?
#29
B0rker
I don't suppose these have a USB slot on them which you can play back DivX from/copy DivX to the HD and play back from there?


They've got a USB port for taking recorded programmes off, or putting mp3's on. You can't put stuff on it without some serious modding. .. and It has to be in .ts format (not sure about the resolution)
#30
huggychair
They've got a USB port for taking recorded programmes off, or putting mp3's on. You can't put stuff on it without some serious modding. .. and It has to be in .ts format (not sure about the resolution)


May be you're getting your Humax models confused ?
No mention at all of USB in the spec for this PVR-9150T.
eg http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/products/new_leaflet/PVR-9150T_leaflet.pdf

The far more expensive, higher-spec'd PVR-9300T has as USB cutely described as 'no function' in the specs" (and I believe the older 9200 models were USB equipped).
#31
ooops my bad I was of course talking about the my older 9200 :oops:
#32
I bought one of these from argos 2 days ago for £117 for the inlaws. They seem to be very happy with it and it doesn't seem to be too noisy. I'll check the software version when I next go across. The inlaws are not technically minded but have found the humax easy to use. Heat added.
banned#33
Newbold
To quote your earlier, superbly well researched comment: "sorry but you are talking rubbish. actually, I'm not sorry".

The fan was put there for a reason. There is absolutely no evidence that Humax overdesign their products - why would they? If you find that people are compaining about the noise from the fan, and then 'resolve' the problem by reducing the time the fan's working, it's pretty obvious that the fan isn't going to be providing the cooling it was designed to provide. So it will get hotter inside. So its working life will be shorter than it was designed to be.

What are your arguments for saying otherwise please?


Because Humax, or any other vendor do not generally release firmware updates that shorten lifespan.

The fan does not need to spin constantly. A firmware update fixed this BUG.
#34
Well I believe it comes with a 2yr warranty so that's just £1/wk for 2yrs time delayed/time mismatched entertainment even if it just melts after that = great value (with the software update to make it QUIET enough to live with) :thumbsup:
#35
vibeone
Because Humax, or any other vendor do not generally release firmware updates that shorten lifespan.

The fan does not need to spin constantly. A firmware update fixed this BUG.


Exactly the fan was never designed to run permanently and there's no need for it when its doing nothing.
#36
agree the fan is noisy but when you have television on you obviously cant hear it and when the box is off it goes off so i do not think it is too much of a problem, yes it would be better without the noise but it does not effect our enjoyment.
the epg does take a while to download and can be frustrating if you simply want to switch the box on in hurry to record something but have to wait several mniutes for the epg to arrive.

however, overall we are very pleased with this product, we paid £130 from empire direct earlier this year and now at under £100 represents very good value.

once the epg arrives it is very simply to use and would recommend
#37
vibeone
Because Humax, or any other vendor do not generally release firmware updates that shorten lifespan.

The fan does not need to spin constantly. A firmware update fixed this BUG.


sosrandom
Exactly the fan was never designed to run permanently and there's no need for it when its doing nothing.


And the evidence for these statements please? Humax and other manufacturers don't generally release PVRs with unnecessary cooling, either - it's part of the design specification and there for a very good reason.

The fan will almost certainly have been designed to run permanently (that's why it was built that way) and any reduction in cooling will, logically, increase the heat of critical components, thus shortening their operating life.

And as for Humax not releasing updates that shorten lifespan - why would they care, so long as it doesn't pack up inside the warranty?
banned 1 Like #38
Newbold
And the evidence for these statements please? Humax and other manufacturers don't generally release PVRs with unnecessary cooling, either - it's part of the design specification and there for a very good reason.

The fan will almost certainly have been designed to run permanently (that's why it was built that way) and any reduction in cooling will, logically, increase the heat of critical components, thus shortening their operating life.

And as for Humax not releasing updates that shorten lifespan - why would they care, so long as it doesn't pack up inside the warranty?

your proof for anything you've said in this thread?

You are talking out of your ****. Go away quietly, because you are just making yourself look even worse.
#39
I have had a 9200 for just under 3 years now and for most of that time it has worked without any problems. In the last few months I started having the odd problems mainly to do with the hard disk so I used this as an opputunity to change it for a larger one. The only problem I get now is the occasional lock up when using the text pages but that, I think, is because of the very poor signal I have in my area. Someone mentioned it takes 5-10 mins to populate the EPG which it does when you first turn it on but if like me its left on all the time the any update is done in the background so is not noticable. Of course if it is left on all the time then the hard disk will get a lot of use and will proberbly get a little noisy after a year or so.

When my 9200 finally breaks down then I won't hesitate getting another Humax as it has been the most reliable and usefull piece of audio/visual equipment I have ever bought.
[Moderator]#40
Jacom700
I have had a 9200 for just under 3 years now and for most of that time it has worked without any problems. In the last few months I started having the odd problems mainly to do with the hard disk so I used this as an opputunity to change it for a larger one. The only problem I get now is the occasional lock up when using the text pages but that, I think, is because of the very poor signal I have in my area. Someone mentioned it takes 5-10 mins to populate the EPG which it does when you first turn it on but if like me its left on all the time the any update is done in the background so is not noticable. Of course if it is left on all the time then the hard disk will get a lot of use and will proberbly get a little noisy after a year or so.

When my 9200 finally breaks down then I won't hesitate getting another Humax as it has been the most reliable and usefull piece of audio/visual equipment I have ever bought.

Totally agree, 3 years ago I took my dissapointing bad and noisy Sony PVR back and changed it for the Humax 9200. Best thing i ever did, Humax 9200 is brilliant, just waiting to get my hands on their Foxsat HD PVR. HUMAX is a great product :thumbsup:

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