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i7 (6500U) 8gb 2tb HDD Full HD (1920x1080) Lenovo Ideapad 310 - £499.00 @ Amazon

£499.00 @ Amazon
Priced reduced on this great spec laptop to just £499! Great for an full HD, i7 with 2tb! And before anyone else says it - I know it isn't SSD! ;) Read More
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Priced reduced on this great spec laptop to just £499! Great for an full HD, i7 with 2tb!

And before anyone else says it - I know it isn't SSD! ;)
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Duckman
Potentially daft question, but why do all computers come with 2 x USB 2 and 1 x USB 3? USB 3s are compatible with 2, right? I don't understand why they don't do all 3 ports. Again, I'm not techy, so possibly missing something obvious, but I'd love to know.
Duckman
Potentially daft question, but why do all computers come with 2 x USB 2 and 1 x USB 3? USB 3s are compatible with 2, right? I don't understand why they don't do all 3 ports. Again, I'm not techy, so possibly missing something obvious, but I'd love to know.
Because they use different controllers. Only since Ivy Bridge microarchitecture Intel included USB 3.0 controller into their chipsets. So manufacturers must use a separate USB 3.0 controller from other companies if they want to provide a USB 3.0 port in mainboards using Sandy Bridge and older chipsets. That makes designing more complex beside taking more mainboard area and power.

One important point is that most external controllers often only supports 2 ports, and one may be used internally for some purpose, only one is exposed to users and that's why you often see old laptops with only 1 USB 3.o port and 1-3 more USB 2.0 ports from native controller inside the chipset. Newer laptops may have more or all USB 3.0 ports.
This is also the same reason for some mainboards have different SATA port
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The Lone Ranger
My son has this. Quite slow startup, I.e. takes a while after login until it is ready. Anyone else experienced this? Will look into replacing HD with an SSD during his summer break.

HDDs and SSDs are very much slower than the various other busses in the computer. SSDs are much faster because of the much reduced latency and secondly usually have much improved sequential read/write times as well.

A computer will keep programs in to RAM, you can test this yourself, if you have a HDD rather than SSD, boot up your PC and immediately load your web browser and time how long it takes to load, next close the browser and reopen it, you'll see it will load much quicker than before. Why is this? This is because the computer has to load the data from the very slow hard drive to the RAM, once the program is in RAM the computer will decide whether to keep it there or not based on various factors. So next time you open the web browser, the operating system (OS) says ah yes I thought you might want to do that, so I've kept the program in RAM. RAM speeds are in the order of many GB/s (gigabytes per second). This is still the same for SSDs but because of their improved latency, random read times and sequential read times you won't notice the difference as much as a HDD. All SSDs and HDDs based on SATA 3/III (6GB/s) bus are in the order of many MB/s (Megabytes per second) and therefore considerably slower than RAM. Even the fastest SSDs are no match for modern DDR3/DDR4 RAM speeds.

The above is essentially a not too technical description of what happens. It's also the reason why task killers are a very bad idea on modern phone/tablet OS's, so long as you have enough RAM, it's better to keep the programs in RAM than freeing up the RAM, a task killer works against the principles which make the OS faster. There comes a point where having more RAM won't help you simply because in general usage you'll never be able to saturate it. If you can't use your RAM effectively then it's essentially a waste.

Lastly Intel are pulling the wool over the eyes of the consumer, for quite some time now they've had dual core i7 CPUs, where as in the past i7's were always quad core. Therefore there's little difference between the i3.i5.i7 tiers except clock speed and cache. Clock speed can be taken in to consideration as a comparison as it's the same architecture being compared.

TL;DR : Yes change the HDD for SSD you will see a big improvement in performance.

Edited By: fishmaster on Jan 07, 2017 11:12
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Potentially daft question, but why do all computers come with 2 x USB 2 and 1 x USB 3? USB 3s are compatible with 2, right? I don't understand why they don't do all 3 ports. Again, I'm not techy, so possibly missing something obvious, but I'd love to know.

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1 Like #1
Not a bad spec.

Item Weight 2.1 Kg
Product Dimensions 26 x 37.9 x 2.3 cm
Batteries: 1 Lithium Polymer batteries required. (included)
Item model number 80SM00D1UK
Series Ideapad 310-15ISK
Color Silver
Form Factor Notebook
Screen Size 15.6 inches
Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 pixels
Maximum Display Resolution 1920 x 1080 pixels
Processor Brand Intel
Processor Type Core i7
Processor Speed 2.5 GHz
Processor Count 2
RAM Size 8 GB
Computer Memory Type DDR4 SDRAM
Hard Drive Size 2000 GB
Hard Disk Technology HDD
Graphics Coprocessor Nvidia
Graphics Card Description NVIDIA GeForce 920MX
Graphics RAM Type GDDR3
Graphics Card Ram Size 2048
Connectivity Type 802_11_AC
Wireless Type 802.11 A/C
Number of USB 2.0 Ports 2
Number of USB 3.0 Ports 1
Number of HDMI Ports 1
Optical Drive Type DVD reader/writer
Hardware Platform Windows
Operating System Windows 10
Average Battery Life (in hours) 5 hours
Lithium Battery Energy Content 30 watt_hours
Lithium Battery Packaging batteries_contained_in_equipment
2 Likes #2
you can get a 950m and an ssd for slightly more than this. an i7 doesnt benchmark much much than an i5 on laptops...
#3
chrisredmayne
you can get a 950m and an ssd for slightly more than this. an i7 doesnt benchmark much much than an i5 on laptops...


Do you have a link please?
5 Likes #4
Potentially daft question, but why do all computers come with 2 x USB 2 and 1 x USB 3? USB 3s are compatible with 2, right? I don't understand why they don't do all 3 ports. Again, I'm not techy, so possibly missing something obvious, but I'd love to know.
#5
from my own personal experience, I've had it before where I've plugged in an old USB 2 device into a USB 3 port and its just not behaved as it should. even though there's backward compatibility I would say that sometimes it isn't the case.
#6
A "U" processor so dual core.
banned 10 Likes #7
Duckman
Potentially daft question, but why do all computers come with 2 x USB 2 and 1 x USB 3? USB 3s are compatible with 2, right? I don't understand why they don't do all 3 ports. Again, I'm not techy, so possibly missing something obvious, but I'd love to know.
Duckman
Potentially daft question, but why do all computers come with 2 x USB 2 and 1 x USB 3? USB 3s are compatible with 2, right? I don't understand why they don't do all 3 ports. Again, I'm not techy, so possibly missing something obvious, but I'd love to know.
Because they use different controllers. Only since Ivy Bridge microarchitecture Intel included USB 3.0 controller into their chipsets. So manufacturers must use a separate USB 3.0 controller from other companies if they want to provide a USB 3.0 port in mainboards using Sandy Bridge and older chipsets. That makes designing more complex beside taking more mainboard area and power.

One important point is that most external controllers often only supports 2 ports, and one may be used internally for some purpose, only one is exposed to users and that's why you often see old laptops with only 1 USB 3.o port and 1-3 more USB 2.0 ports from native controller inside the chipset. Newer laptops may have more or all USB 3.0 ports.
This is also the same reason for some mainboards have different SATA port
1 Like #8
Does anyone know if this would be suitable for using Autodesk Inventor smoothly? Thanks in advance
1 Like #9
5Rivers79
chrisredmayne
you can get a 950m and an ssd for slightly more than this. an i7 doesnt benchmark much much than an i5 on laptops...


Do you have a link please?


http://www.tesco.com/direct/acer-156-f15-intel-core-i5-6200u-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd-1tb-hdd-nvidia-geforce-gtx-950m-2gb-with-dvdrw-silver-gaming-laptop/612-0833.prd
#10
Meh, scores hardly any higher than i5 6200u

Good if you need the storage

But for 499?

Dont think so
1 Like #11
splatsplatsplat
A "U" processor so dual core.
Yes, not just 'U' models as most (all) i7 'M' were dual core too. Only i7 with HQ, MX, MQ are ever quad core with HT (4/8), everything else is pretty much two core with HT (2/4) same as mobile i3 and i5 except for bigger caches and higher clocks/boosts.

Krizzo3
Meh, scores hardly any higher than i5 6200u
chrisredmayne
an i7 doesnt benchmark much much than an i5 on laptops...
Yes, the PassMark scores reflect this (single-threaded in brackets):
i7-6500U @ 2.50GHz = 4296 (1639)
i5-6200U @ 2.30GHz = 3912 (1497)
i3-6100U @ 2.30GHz* = 3427 (1320) * but no turbo
#12
My son has this. Quite slow startup, I.e. takes a while after login until it is ready. Anyone else experienced this? Will look into replacing HD with an SSD during his summer break.
#13
Duckman
Potentially daft question, but why do all computers come with 2 x USB 2 and 1 x USB 3? USB 3s are compatible with 2, right? I don't understand why they don't do all 3 ports. Again, I'm not techy, so possibly missing something obvious, but I'd love to know.

You're incorrect. It's usually the reverse these days as in 2 x USB 3.0 and 1 x USB 2.0 and some USB 3.0 only. When USB 3.0 was first rolled out, it was common to see the configuration you state, as the years have gone by it now common to see more USB 3.0 ports than USB 2.0 on laptops. Anyway I see your question was answered earlier.
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The Lone Ranger
My son has this. Quite slow startup, I.e. takes a while after login until it is ready. Anyone else experienced this? Will look into replacing HD with an SSD during his summer break.

HDDs and SSDs are very much slower than the various other busses in the computer. SSDs are much faster because of the much reduced latency and secondly usually have much improved sequential read/write times as well.

A computer will keep programs in to RAM, you can test this yourself, if you have a HDD rather than SSD, boot up your PC and immediately load your web browser and time how long it takes to load, next close the browser and reopen it, you'll see it will load much quicker than before. Why is this? This is because the computer has to load the data from the very slow hard drive to the RAM, once the program is in RAM the computer will decide whether to keep it there or not based on various factors. So next time you open the web browser, the operating system (OS) says ah yes I thought you might want to do that, so I've kept the program in RAM. RAM speeds are in the order of many GB/s (gigabytes per second). This is still the same for SSDs but because of their improved latency, random read times and sequential read times you won't notice the difference as much as a HDD. All SSDs and HDDs based on SATA 3/III (6GB/s) bus are in the order of many MB/s (Megabytes per second) and therefore considerably slower than RAM. Even the fastest SSDs are no match for modern DDR3/DDR4 RAM speeds.

The above is essentially a not too technical description of what happens. It's also the reason why task killers are a very bad idea on modern phone/tablet OS's, so long as you have enough RAM, it's better to keep the programs in RAM than freeing up the RAM, a task killer works against the principles which make the OS faster. There comes a point where having more RAM won't help you simply because in general usage you'll never be able to saturate it. If you can't use your RAM effectively then it's essentially a waste.

Lastly Intel are pulling the wool over the eyes of the consumer, for quite some time now they've had dual core i7 CPUs, where as in the past i7's were always quad core. Therefore there's little difference between the i3.i5.i7 tiers except clock speed and cache. Clock speed can be taken in to consideration as a comparison as it's the same architecture being compared.

TL;DR : Yes change the HDD for SSD you will see a big improvement in performance.

Edited By: fishmaster on Jan 07, 2017 11:12
#15
I know the difference between SSD and HDs, I have an SSD in both my laptop and desktop. What I wanted to know from people with this laptop is whether it was slow to be ready from the time you sign in as this seemed particularly slow.
#16
The Lone Ranger
My son has this. Quite slow startup, I.e. takes a while after login until it is ready. Anyone else experienced this? Will look into replacing HD with an SSD during his summer break.


Can you replace the dvd drive with an ssd and run two drives?
#18
Krizzo3
The Lone Ranger
My son has this. Quite slow startup, I.e. takes a while after login until it is ready. Anyone else experienced this? Will look into replacing HD with an SSD during his summer break.


Can you replace the dvd drive with an ssd and run two drives?


Not checked if you can get a caddy, that might be an option.
#19
Krizzo3
The Lone Ranger
My son has this. Quite slow startup, I.e. takes a while after login until it is ready. Anyone else experienced this? Will look into replacing HD with an SSD during his summer break.
Can you replace the dvd drive with an ssd and run two drives?
Should be possible. As The Lone Ranger said, you'll need a caddy and often you'll have to swap the bezel from the optical to the caddy as the seldom fit.
Remember though that there are two heights of DVDs: 12.7mm and 9.5mm so you have to get the right one.
NBC list:
Optical drive HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GUE0N
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-IdeaPad-310-15ISK-Notebook-Review.173924.0.html
and googling GUE0N returns 9mm drives.
2 Likes #20
Crippled i7 with no SSD. Much better deals available with i5 it even i3 with SSD will feel faster in daily use.
2 Likes #21
Duckman
Potentially daft question, but why do all computers come with 2 x USB 2 and 1 x USB 3? USB 3s are compatible with 2, right? I don't understand why they don't do all 3 ports. Again, I'm not techy, so possibly missing something obvious, but I'd love to know.

Not a daft question, I asked the same thing on a post yesterday. :) I found this though which was interesting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/2hguhb/eli5_why_do_computer_manufacturers_still_include/
1 Like #22
cold. not an SSD.
#23
The Lone Ranger
I know the difference between SSD and HDs, I have an SSD in both my laptop and desktop. What I wanted to know from people with this laptop is whether it was slow to be ready from the time you sign in as this seemed particularly slow.


You've answered your own question, since you have an experience of SSDs...well do I need to explain further.
banned 4 Likes #24
fishmaster
The Lone Ranger
I know the difference between SSD and HDs, I have an SSD in both my laptop and desktop. What I wanted to know from people with this laptop is whether it was slow to be ready from the time you sign in as this seemed particularly slow.
You've answered your own question, since you have an experience of SSDs...well do I need to explain further.
So you completely missed his point, spent hundreds of words failing to answer his simple question, then got petulant.
A good mornings work, well done!
1 Like #25
fishmaster
Duckman
Potentially daft question, but why do all computers come with 2 x USB 2 and 1 x USB 3? USB 3s are compatible with 2, right? I don't understand why they don't do all 3 ports. Again, I'm not techy, so possibly missing something obvious, but I'd love to know.
You're incorrect. It's usually the reverse these days as in 2 x USB 3.0 and 1 x USB 2.0 and some USB 3.0 only. When USB 3.0 was first rolled out, it was common to see the configuration you state, as the years have gone by it now common to see more USB 3.0 ports than USB 2.0 on laptops. Anyway I see your question was answered earlier.

I think its still questionable why the hell they are still putting USB 2.0 ports on Laptops?
#26
Does anyone know if this laptop has the turbo boost to boost from a 2.5 ghz to 3.1 ghz?? as i have read on some sites it does and some it doesnt
.
#27
5Rivers79
chrisredmayne
you can get a 950m and an ssd for slightly more than this. an i7 doesnt benchmark much much than an i5 on laptops...


Do you have a link please?


looks like the deal has gone now but always comes back on, acer f15 i5 950m 1tb plus 128sd
#28
hay3010
Does anyone know if this laptop has the turbo boost to boost from a 2.5 ghz to 3.1 ghz?? as i have read on some sites it does and some it doesnt
.
I believe all core i5 & i7 mobile processors feature turbo boost. It's the i3 that doesn't.
#29
rossysaurus
better deals available with i5 it even i3 with SSD will feel faster in daily use.
^^ This. Most laptop i7s are Ultra low voltage/power and have lower throughput than a desktop i3. A laptop i3 plus SSD will be better for most purposes.

Edited By: Hootwo on Jan 07, 2017 20:47
#30


"You can get something better for more money" is becoming the stock answer on every laptop thread on here at the minute
#31
Cheers thanks for that
captainbeaky
hay3010
Does anyone know if this laptop has the turbo boost to boost from a 2.5 ghz to 3.1 ghz?? as i have read on some sites it does and some it doesnt
.
I believe all core i5 & i7 mobile processors feature turbo boost. It's the i3 that doesn't.
#32
I have ordered one for my sons birthday thanks
#33
Gkains
splatsplatsplat
A "U" processor so dual core.
Yes, not just 'U' models as most (all) i7 'M' were dual core too. Only i7 with HQ, MX, MQ are ever quad core with HT (4/8), everything else is pretty much two core with HT (2/4) same as mobile i3 and i5 except for bigger caches and higher clocks/boosts.
Krizzo3
Meh, scores hardly any higher than i5 6200u
chrisredmayne
an i7 doesnt benchmark much much than an i5 on laptops...
Yes, the PassMark scores reflect this (single-threaded in brackets):
i7-6500U @ 2.50GHz = 4296 (1639)
i5-6200U @ 2.30GHz = 3912 (1497)
i3-6100U @ 2.30GHz* = 3427 (1320) * but no turbo

those marks are all a bit rubbish vs a good PC

this one is about 5000
#34
fishmaster
The Lone Ranger
My son has this. Quite slow startup, I.e. takes a while after login until it is ready. Anyone else experienced this? Will look into replacing HD with an SSD during his summer break.
HDDs and SSDs are very much slower than the various other busses in the computer. SSDs are much faster because of the much reduced latency and secondly usually have much improved sequential read/write times as well.
A computer will keep programs in to RAM, you can test this yourself, if you have a HDD rather than SSD, boot up your PC and immediately load your web browser and time how long it takes to load, next close the browser and reopen it, you'll see it will load much quicker than before. Why is this? This is because the computer has to load the data from the very slow hard drive to the RAM, once the program is in RAM the computer will decide whether to keep it there or not based on various factors. So next time you open the web browser, the operating system (OS) says ah yes I thought you might want to do that, so I've kept the program in RAM. RAM speeds are in the order of many GB/s (gigabytes per second). This is still the same for SSDs but because of their improved latency, random read times and sequential read times you won't notice the difference as much as a HDD. All SSDs and HDDs based on SATA 3/III (6GB/s) bus are in the order of many MB/s (Megabytes per second) and therefore considerably slower than RAM. Even the fastest SSDs are no match for modern DDR3/DDR4 RAM speeds.
The above is essentially a not too technical description of what happens. It's also the reason why task killers are a very bad idea on modern phone/tablet OS's, so long as you have enough RAM, it's better to keep the programs in RAM than freeing up the RAM, a task killer works against the principles which make the OS faster. There comes a point where having more RAM won't help you simply because in general usage you'll never be able to saturate it. If you can't use your RAM effectively then it's essentially a waste.
Lastly Intel are pulling the wool over the eyes of the consumer, for quite some time now they've had dual core i7 CPUs, where as in the past i7's were always quad core. Therefore there's little difference between the i3.i5.i7 tiers except clock speed and cache. Clock speed can be taken in to consideration as a comparison as it's the same architecture being compared.
TL;DR : Yes change the HDD for SSD you will see a big improvement in performance.

All well and good until windows decides to swap applications out of ram back to disk on the pagefile.....




Edited By: Uridium on Jan 07, 2017 21:48
1 Like #35
crud processor scores. i bought a latop for 600 from Dell that had over 9000 on cpu benchmark 3 years ago
#36
ozzmosiz
crud processor scores. i bought a latop for 600 from Dell that had over 9000 on cpu benchmark 3 years ago
In today's marketing terms, this is called progress
#37
why is it that almost all good laptop deals are on 15inch or larger laptops? I'm only interested in 13 or smaller but they never seem to be on offer!
#38
about 18 months ago I splashed out & bought the lenovo y70-70 which cost about £1000.00 with a quad i7 processor & 16gb ram & gtx 960m graphics card it should have been the dogs danglies but it was terrible I contacted lenovo quite a few times but kept getting fobbed off or told to reformat the HD & start again but in the end I got on amazon changed their terrible 1tb hybrid drive for a crucial 750gb ssd drive & now it is performing like it should.. I can even run titanfall 2. so the answer to your question is yes swap it asap.
#39
After getting my first SSD laptop a year ago I'm never going back. Makes such a difference.

Why people need full HD to watch a screen that is a meter away from your face beats me.
#40
balluji
5Rivers79
chrisredmayne
you can get a 950m and an ssd for slightly more than this. an i7 doesnt benchmark much much than an i5 on laptops...
Do you have a link please?
http://www.tesco.com/direct/acer-156-f15-intel-core-i5-6200u-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd-1tb-hdd-nvidia-geforce-gtx-950m-2gb-with-dvdrw-silver-gaming-laptop/612-0833.prd

Your comparing any brand to a more expensive acer... Think i prefer my house not to burn down

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