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Icybox IB-3664SU3 External 4-Bay JBOD Enclosure for 3.5-Inch SATA I/II/III HDD @ Icybox Amazon £124.02 delivered

£124.02 @ Amazon
This is I think the cheapest price for this box, or for anything similar, I think. This is NOT a NAS! SKU IB-3664SU3 EAN: 4250078160908 Manufacturer Icy Box. It's difficult to find much informa… Read More
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4m, 1w agoFound 4 months, 1 week ago
This is I think the cheapest price for this box, or for anything similar, I think. This is NOT a NAS!
SKU IB-3664SU3
EAN: 4250078160908
Manufacturer Icy Box.
It's difficult to find much information on this box, but it might be useful to those who are running out of space on their microserver/pc. The earlier Microserver had an Esata connector, the latest one doesn't but it's easy to fit an Esata card anyway or it could be connected by USB3 (both connections are provided. The front panels hinge down and the drives are simply pushed in. Apparently the disks appear as separate disks which to me is much better as they can be directly formatted by the existing operating system so should be readable if removed. Of course you could buy another microserver or pc, but then you would have two media servers rather than one big one which is inconvenient if you are searching for one film for example.
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#1
This isn't the cheapest price, but it is the cheapest on the 'allowed' list for HUKD! ;)
#2
Depends on if the controller is any good when running in USB3 mode, I have a USB3 one (Different model) and with 4 drives in it was easy to bog it down so it became very unresponsive
#3
Even a small tower can fit about 8 3.5" drives in, just use cardboard and rubber bands.
#4
Think I would get another microserver for that money even just in case the original one fails you can put drives into it to recover but this looks quite descent and good size
#5
dragon2611
Depends on if the controller is any good when running in USB3 mode, I have a USB3 one (Different model) and with 4 drives in it was easy to bog it down so it became very unresponsive
So you can use the Icy boxes Esata port which may in practice be faster, pci esata adapters are not expensive. There's an article here discussing the pros and cons
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/273154-32-esata-external-enclosure
I actually went the two microserver route before I thought of a 'simple' external box. So I have the inconvenience of two microservers, each one of which contains a backup set of drives! If I had chosen this route, my external backup set would simply have been these external drives, I manually back up when I feel like I have added enough videos to my primary sets, so the secondary sets are normally just idling and so the data transfer rates are not critical
#6
jasee
dragon2611
Depends on if the controller is any good when running in USB3 mode, I have a USB3 one (Different model) and with 4 drives in it was easy to bog it down so it became very unresponsive
So you can use the Icy boxes Esata port which may in practice be faster, pci esata adapters are not expensive. There's an article here discussing the pros and conshttp://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/273154-32-esata-external-enclosure
I actually went the two microserver route before I thought of a 'simple' external box. So I have the inconvenience of two microservers, each one of which contains a backup set of drives! If I had chosen this route, my external backup set would simply have been these external drives, I manually back up when I feel like I have added enough videos to my primary sets, so the secondary sets are normally just idling and so the data transfer rates are not critical


Might be a different chipset and ok, mine in USB3 mode was so unresponsive it was actually causing the machine it was connected to become unresponsive itself as it was hung up waiting for I/O.

Edited By: dragon2611 on Feb 16, 2017 09:33
#7
dragon2611
jasee
dragon2611
Depends on if the controller is any good when running in USB3 mode, I have a USB3 one (Different model) and with 4 drives in it was easy to bog it down so it became very unresponsive
So you can use the Icy boxes Esata port which may in practice be faster, pci esata adapters are not expensive. There's an article here discussing the pros and conshttp://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/273154-32-esata-external-enclosure
I actually went the two microserver route before I thought of a 'simple' external box. So I have the inconvenience of two microservers, each one of which contains a backup set of drives! If I had chosen this route, my external backup set would simply have been these external drives, I manually back up when I feel like I have added enough videos to my primary sets, so the secondary sets are normally just idling and so the data transfer rates are not critical
Might be a different chipset and ok, mine in USB3 mode was so unresponsive it was actually causing the machine it was connected to become unresponsive itself as it was hung up waiting for I/O.
Nice!
Some drives sleep of course.
I understand some WD drives are notorious for that. Internally sometimes there is a delay of several seconds but it doesn't seem to effect the media server output
#8
A rackmount server you can modify to be quiet might be better on price/performance. I picked up a £95 server with 12 x 3.5" bays then have been modifying it. £15 for replacement fans to keep it quiet, most recently £40 for a new controller as the supplied one didn't support drives over 2TB or a proper JBOD mode. Still cheaper in bays per dollar.
#9
I have seen someone use a gen7 microserver like this box to a raid card in a gen8 I picked up a gen 7 n36l with 1tb hard drive and 8gb ram for £10 on gumtree the other day running esxi 6.5 works perfect so worth looking around
#10
CampGareth
A rackmount server you can modify to be quiet might be better on price/performance. I picked up a £95 server with 12 x 3.5" bays then have been modifying it. £15 for replacement fans to keep it quiet, most recently £40 for a new controller as the supplied one didn't support drives over 2TB or a proper JBOD mode. Still cheaper in bays per dollar.
Usually these are enormous and very heavy and if anything goes wrong with the hardware, the secondhand parts are a ridiculous price on ebay. The controllers are often scusi! So the drives have to be and they also are an arm and a leg and not too fast by today's standards
#11
Phillip Jenkins is selling it for less , approx 108.50 ,,##... same page
#12
jasee
CampGareth
A rackmount server you can modify to be quiet might be better on price/performance. I picked up a £95 server with 12 x 3.5" bays then have been modifying it. £15 for replacement fans to keep it quiet, most recently £40 for a new controller as the supplied one didn't support drives over 2TB or a proper JBOD mode. Still cheaper in bays per dollar.
Usually these are enormous and very heavy and if anything goes wrong with the hardware, the secondhand parts are a ridiculous price on ebay. The controllers are often scusi! So the drives have to be and they also are an arm and a leg and not too fast by today's standards

Enormous and heavy are definitely true. Expensive parts isn't true though, it depends on what you're getting. Whatever's coming out of active duty in datacentres tends to be cheap, so atm servers with Nehalem era CPUs are cheap, the consumer version was the first generation core i3/5/7 stuff. When the servers themselves are cheap, parts are also cheap.

As for controllers, jesus no, I haven't seen SCSI in use in decades. I've seen SAS in use but that's compatible with SATA. The normal setup is you get some miniSAS ports which are 4 x SAS connections in one connector, these are then split out into 4 SAS/SATA connections by a backplane for the front-mounted drives. Think of it as a similar setup to these, you use something that isn't SATA e.g. USB to make the connection to the rest of the PC, but then it's converted to SATA and all is well. For instance all my drives are consumer SATA things, 3.5", 2.5", various capacities I've picked up over the years.
#13
GwanGy
Phillip Jenkins is selling it for less , approx 108.50 ,,##... same page
Just launched!
And from the US!
+tax and VAT, I wouldn't wonder?
#14
CampGareth
jasee
CampGareth
A rackmount server you can modify to be quiet might be better on price/performance. I picked up a £95 server with 12 x 3.5" bays then have been modifying it. £15 for replacement fans to keep it quiet, most recently £40 for a new controller as the supplied one didn't support drives over 2TB or a proper JBOD mode. Still cheaper in bays per dollar.
Usually these are enormous and very heavy and if anything goes wrong with the hardware, the secondhand parts are a ridiculous price on ebay. The controllers are often scusi! So the drives have to be and they also are an arm and a leg and not too fast by today's standards
Enormous and heavy are definitely true. Expensive parts isn't true though, it depends on what you're getting. Whatever's coming out of active duty in datacentres tends to be cheap, so atm servers with Nehalem era CPUs are cheap, the consumer version was the first generation core i3/5/7 stuff. When the servers themselves are cheap, parts are also cheap.
Relatively speaking maybe, I can never really understand why server gear is so ludicrously expensive to start with. Ok, they're built like tanks but unless you are actually going to war, whats the point? Redundant power supplies ok. I think people just expect to pay a lot because they always have
#15
jasee
CampGareth
jasee
CampGareth
A rackmount server you can modify to be quiet might be better on price/performance. I picked up a £95 server with 12 x 3.5" bays then have been modifying it. £15 for replacement fans to keep it quiet, most recently £40 for a new controller as the supplied one didn't support drives over 2TB or a proper JBOD mode. Still cheaper in bays per dollar.
Usually these are enormous and very heavy and if anything goes wrong with the hardware, the secondhand parts are a ridiculous price on ebay. The controllers are often scusi! So the drives have to be and they also are an arm and a leg and not too fast by today's standards
Enormous and heavy are definitely true. Expensive parts isn't true though, it depends on what you're getting. Whatever's coming out of active duty in datacentres tends to be cheap, so atm servers with Nehalem era CPUs are cheap, the consumer version was the first generation core i3/5/7 stuff. When the servers themselves are cheap, parts are also cheap.
Relatively speaking maybe, I can never really understand why server gear is so ludicrously expensive to start with. Ok, they're built like tanks but unless you are actually going to war, whats the point? Redundant power supplies ok. I think people just expect to pay a lot because they always have
Traditionally it was yields on chips, time spent testing and programming features for compliance... nowadays I'm not so sure. It doesn't cost Intel much more to make a 24 core beast with ECC support and 40+ lanes of PCI-E than it does a desktop chip. As for time spent on ensuring features actually work, ha, I've run into one too many weird servers to think that's the case.
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If you just want to read and write to 4 drives at the same time this might be a cheaper option. Critics might say the drives are loose and the is no fan it does depends on how you plan to use it.

You can get the 4 bay Orico off Aliexpress for 48 quid (as of right now) other sellers on ebay charge a lot more.

I own this product and for what I use it for (backup syncs) it is ideal, low use a few times a week. Just putting it out there for a cheaper alternative if anybody is interested.
http://i.imgur.com/hJnJ5HL.jpg
From aliexpress.com





Edited By: mogsog on Feb 16, 2017 21:15

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