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IKEA Tradfri cheap smart lighting £9.00

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IKEA just released cheap alternative to smart lighting. I have been using couple of bulbs for 2 weeks and very happy with them. They pair directly to Smartthings hub if you have one. Unfortunately, I … Read More
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IKEA just released cheap alternative to smart lighting. I have been using couple of bulbs for 2 weeks and very happy with them. They pair directly to Smartthings hub if you have one. Unfortunately, I read somewhere that these don't work with Hue bridge. They don't have any colour bulbs at the moment.

The colour temperatures for the bulbs change between 2200 and 4000 unlike the Philips hue which is 2700 to 6500. These bulbs are much brighter than the hue bulbs. The E27 versions are almost 200 lumen brighter than hue bulbs.

Bulbs start as cheap as £9. They also have cheap GU10's for £12.

The hub is also half the price of hue at £25 if you need to buy one.
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#1
Do they work with Amazon Alexa??
#2
slider
Do they work with Amazon Alexa??
If they're linked into Smartthings then yes? Else I don't believe they have native integration yet.
#3
Do you know if the sensor also works with ST?
#4
I saw on a YouTube review you have to buy the £15 remote control even if you only want to use the app!
#5
Quick question guys. Is it possible to have smart bulbs from different companies work in conjunction with each other if you have their hubs?

For example can i set a particular scene if i have hue bulbs and this in one room with both the hue hub and smartthings hub? Thanks.

Edited By: 5Rivers79 on Apr 12, 2017 10:13: edit
1 Like #6
5Rivers79
Quick question guys. Is it possible to have smart bulbs from different companies work in conjunction of you have their hubs?
For example can i set a particular scene if i have hue bulbs and this in one room with both the hue hub and smartthings hub? Thanks.

Yes this is possible with smartthings. But you will need your hue hub and other lights hooked up to the smartthings.
I have lifx, hue, osram lightify and ikea bulbs working together.


Edited By: VBV on Apr 12, 2017 10:10
#7
kpmatthews
I saw on a YouTube review you have to buy the £15 remote control even if you only want to use the app!
Not sure about the remote, but you will need a zigbee hub. The ikea one or something like smartthings. It doesn't work with hue bridge.
1 Like #8
bane2000
Do you know if the sensor also works with ST?
I don't think there is a device handler yet for this. Xiaomi motion sensors are cheap and work well with smartthings.
3 Likes #9
How can a light bulb be smart?
Is it silently working on some fiendishly complex problem when you go to bed.
Beware, one day the lightbulbs of the world will combine as one and take over the world.
#10
So if I were to replace all the lights in my flat with smart bulbs then control them through google assistant (not got Google Home, so just assistant on a phone) I'd need... a smart things hub for ~£100 and then bulbs for each light fitting (13 GU10s, 4 B22s or whatever the standard bayonet is called) for ~£200, then if I wanted PIR in the bathrooms and hallway there's no way of doing that right now? That sound right to everybody? Any better/cheaper solutions out there?
#11
I am hoping they open up to Google Home soon, this is a real Hue killer when it comes to price. £189 for 60% of my house lighting to be "Smart" is a bargain. Just the kitchen and bathrooms with GU10's to complete the house, which can wait a few months for further funds.
1 Like #12
CampGareth
So if I were to replace all the lights in my flat with smart bulbs then control them through google assistant (not got Google Home, so just assistant on a phone) I'd need... a smart things hub for ~£100 and then bulbs for each light fitting (13 GU10s, 4 B22s or whatever the standard bayonet is called) for ~£200, then if I wanted PIR in the bathrooms and hallway there's no way of doing that right now? That sound right to everybody? Any better/cheaper solutions out there?

Hue have their own motion sensors but they are expensive at £34.99. There is Trajectio currently on Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1109816630/trajectio-motion-powered-hue-and-sonos-smart-home
1 Like #13
Slim2k
I am hoping they open up to Google Home soon, this is a real Hue killer when it comes to price. £189 for 60% of my house lighting to be "Smart" is a bargain. Just the kitchen and bathrooms with GU10's to complete the house, which can wait a few months for further funds.

So true... the price of the Hue GU10s leaves a lot to be desired, considering most houses will have like 8 in one room! However, having used Google home and Echo to control my lights, it gets very boring very quickly. Other than "all on" or "all off", controlling each room is a real pain - you end up having a 2 minute conversation to turn off the whole house.
2 Likes #14
wkdshot
Slim2k
I am hoping they open up to Google Home soon, this is a real Hue killer when it comes to price. £189 for 60% of my house lighting to be "Smart" is a bargain. Just the kitchen and bathrooms with GU10's to complete the house, which can wait a few months for further funds.

So true... the price of the Hue GU10s leaves a lot to be desired, considering most houses will have like 8 in one room! However, having used Google home and Echo to control my lights, it gets very boring very quickly. Other than "all on" or "all off", controlling each room is a real pain - you end up having a 2 minute conversation to turn off the whole house.


Just create a grouup called “everything” in alexa and it will turn it all off
1 Like #15
Someone did a review of these compared to hue and they really aren’t any cheaper when you start factoring everything in - do your research before committing to any solution
1 Like #16
sh20
wkdshot
Slim2k
I am hoping they open up to Google Home soon, this is a real Hue killer when it comes to price. £189 for 60% of my house lighting to be "Smart" is a bargain. Just the kitchen and bathrooms with GU10's to complete the house, which can wait a few months for further funds.
So true... the price of the Hue GU10s leaves a lot to be desired, considering most houses will have like 8 in one room! However, having used Google home and Echo to control my lights, it gets very boring very quickly. Other than "all on" or "all off", controlling each room is a real pain - you end up having a 2 minute conversation to turn off the whole house.
Just create a grouup called “everything” in alexa and it will turn it all off

But what if I want to turn the office and bathroom off, but leave the lounge on?
#17
sh20
Someone did a review of these compared to hue and they really aren’t any cheaper when you start factoring everything in - do your research before committing to any solution

Interesting! Can you remember why it worked out more expensive or have a link to the review?
2 Likes #18
jamgin
How can a light bulb be smart?
Is it silently working on some fiendishly complex problem when you go to bed.
Beware, one day the lightbulbs of the world will combine as one and take over the world.
Don't listen to this person, they are clearly crazy, lightbulbs do not have secret plans to control the universe, please make all light bulbs smart bulbs.

No, I am not a lightbulb, why do you ask fellow human?
#19
wkdshot
sh20
wkdshot
Slim2k
I am hoping they open up to Google Home soon, this is a real Hue killer when it comes to price. £189 for 60% of my house lighting to be "Smart" is a bargain. Just the kitchen and bathrooms with GU10's to complete the house, which can wait a few months for further funds.
So true... the price of the Hue GU10s leaves a lot to be desired, considering most houses will have like 8 in one room! However, having used Google home and Echo to control my lights, it gets very boring very quickly. Other than "all on" or "all off", controlling each room is a real pain - you end up having a 2 minute conversation to turn off the whole house.
Just create a grouup called “everything” in alexa and it will turn it all off
But what if I want to turn the office and bathroom off, but leave the lounge on?
Could you not make lots of groups? E.g. "Lounge only" which turns everything off except the lounge.
1 Like #20
CampGareth
That sound right to everybody? Any better/cheaper solutions out there?
Yeelights are cheap, they work well and now have an official Alexa skill.
banned#21
Everything works with the echo or dot or whatever voice control your using. And you can set up the bulbs to work as one if you bought more than one. They respond very fast.
2 Likes #22
jamgin
How can a light bulb be smart?
Is it silently working on some fiendishly complex problem when you go to bed.
Beware, one day the lightbulbs of the world will combine as one and take over the world.
They're not smart, they're not as dim as some of the others!
#23
wkdshot
But what if I want to turn the office and bathroom off, but leave the lounge on?

well that's a different scenario altogether - I'd suggest using light switches or motion sensors for the different zones or rooms. Hue make a decent dimmer and excellent motion sensor (although a little pricey). whatever you choose will be more efficient than walking around flicking all the light switches.
2 Likes #24
wkdshot
Interesting! Can you remember why it worked out more expensive or have a link to the review?

https://www.stuff.tv/features/ikea-smart-lighting-vs-philips-hue-weigh-in
#25
No bayonet versions or am I going mad? Whole house is BC, what a bind that will be with silly adaptors!
#26
Does these work with HomeKit ? Thanks
1 Like #27
sh20
Someone did a review of these compared to hue and they really aren’t any cheaper when you start factoring everything in - do your research before committing to any solution

That review is awful, of course they're cheaper.
Hue white ambience gu10 £25 IKEA TRÅDFRI gu10 £12
Hue motion sensor and e27 bulb approx £50
IKEA TRÅDFRI motion sensor and e27 bulb £25

If you wanted 15 gu10's, for the price of the hue's you could get 15 IKEA ones, a smartthings starter kit with power outlet,presence sensor,motion sensor and multi sensor...And at least another 4 xiamoi motion sensors, obviously that wouldn't be suitable for someone wanting an out of the box plug & play solution...But the cost savings are potentially huge
1 Like #28
jamgin
How can a light bulb be smart?

Guaranteed to be smarter than a Brexit voter.

Be interested to see it these do work with the echo dot...got a yeelight but these are now comparable in cost.
#29
xmikebx

That review is awful, of course they're cheaper.
Hue white ambience gu10 £25 IKEA TRÅDFRI gu10 £12
Hue motion sensor and e27 bulb approx £50
IKEA TRÅDFRI motion sensor and e27 bulb £25
If you wanted 15 gu10's, for the price of the hue's you could get 15 IKEA ones, a smartthings starter kit with power outlet,presence sensor,motion sensor and multi sensor...And at least another 4 xiamoi motion sensors, obviously that wouldn't be suitable for someone wanting an out of the box plug & play solution...But the cost savings are potentially huge

It's really not awful, it depends on what you value: time, money, feature set, or maybe a combination of all. I prioritise my time, the features, then price. Like I said though - do your research - if you just want a fairly basic solution then yes these will work fine but I was flagging that these are not a straight up swap, Hue bulbs have loads of additional features that you just won't get with these bulbs. Can you price me a comparison for colour bulbs? No? Because they don't exist.
#30
sh20
wkdshot
But what if I want to turn the office and bathroom off, but leave the lounge on?
well that's a different scenario altogether - I'd suggest using light switches or motion sensors for the different zones or rooms. Hue make a decent dimmer and excellent motion sensor (although a little pricey). whatever you choose will be more efficient than walking around flicking all the light switches.


I agree, although from experience it was the most common scenario and I begrudge using the light switch when I've invested in smart bulbs. The Hue app is so slow to connect that it is really frustrating to keep getting the phone out and open the app. The motion sensors look good but would cost £204 to kit out my home... I've pledged for this which seems a smarter way of doing it, since I have Sonos too: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1109816630/trajectio-motion-powered-hue-and-sonos-smart-home
1 Like #31
wkdshot

I agree, although from experience it was the most common scenario and I begrudge using the light switch when I've invested in smart bulbs. The Hue app is so slow to connect that it is really frustrating to keep getting the phone out and open the app. The motion sensors look good but would cost £204 to kit out my home... I've pledged for this which seems a smarter way of doing it, since I have Sonos too: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1109816630/trajectio-motion-powered-hue-and-sonos-smart-home

Oh wow - that looks great, thanks!

I have just swiped the last early bird kit - I hope it takes off...
1 Like #32
sh20
wkdshot

I agree, although from experience it was the most common scenario and I begrudge using the light switch when I've invested in smart bulbs. The Hue app is so slow to connect that it is really frustrating to keep getting the phone out and open the app. The motion sensors look good but would cost £204 to kit out my home... I've pledged for this which seems a smarter way of doing it, since I have Sonos too: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1109816630/trajectio-motion-powered-hue-and-sonos-smart-home
Oh wow - that looks great, thanks!
I have just swiped the last early bird kit - I hope it takes off...


Me too... take note everyone! haha
#33
rdbradshaw
Does these work with HomeKit ? Thanks

No. At least, not yet.
#34
rivalius
jamgin
How can a light bulb be smart?
Is it silently working on some fiendishly complex problem when you go to bed.
Beware, one day the lightbulbs of the world will combine as one and take over the world.
Don't listen to this person, they are clearly crazy, lightbulbs do not have secret plans to control the universe, please make all light bulbs smart bulbs.
No, I am not a lightbulb, why do you ask fellow human?

A person having a bright idea is always represented as a lightbulb moment. Don't underestimate the intelligence of these bulbs. The end is nigh.
#35
poogis
rdbradshaw
Does these work with HomeKit ? Thanks
No. At least, not yet.
Ok cheers
#36
sh20

It's really not awful, it depends on what you value: time, money, feature set, or maybe a combination of all. I prioritise my time, the features, then price. Like I said though - do your research - if you just want a fairly basic solution then yes these will work fine but I was flagging that these are not a straight up swap, Hue bulbs have loads of additional features that you just won't get with these bulbs. Can you price me a comparison for colour bulbs? No? Because they don't exist.
Perhaps 'awful' is a tad harsh, but things like 'seems to be' 'we haven't seen' 'we assumed' really? Granted it was written prior to being publicly released here, but some of what is written there is simply not true *now* and shouldn't be used to influence a decision, it's clearly written towards promoting hue at the expense of ikea. I'm not bashing hue I use it myself, but you said
they really aren’t any cheaper
and they are.
#37
Light bulb - heavy bulb .....
#38
Only slightly cheaper than Hue really and they don't seem very good. When I looked at them in store of the 3 lights 1 would only turn on/off with no dimming, another the dimming worked but was very erratic and one worked fine.

A Hue starter kit with Hub, 2 Bulbs and Dimmer is currently on £10 more.
Plus you can always get cheaper bulbs from Innr (£19 compared to £15 for Ikea) considering the life of LED bulbs it's not a lot of money.

Some things are cheaper like motion sensor but the lack of colour bulbs, LED strips and things like IFTTT and 3rd party app support (along with my poor experience with it) means I'd go with Hue anytime over this.
#39
CampGareth
So if I were to replace all the lights in my flat with smart bulbs then control them through google assistant (not got Google Home, so just assistant on a phone) I'd need... a smart things hub for ~£100 and then bulbs for each light fitting (13 GU10s, 4 B22s or whatever the standard bayonet is called) for ~£200, then if I wanted PIR in the bathrooms and hallway there's no way of doing that right now? That sound right to everybody? Any better/cheaper solutions out there?

Yes, replace your light switches with smart RF switches and a Broadlink RM Pro. The switches are about £12 each. The RM Pro is about £25. Then you either control them from the app, or get an Echo and pass the RM Pro config through to it using the Tasker plugin. This way you can use any old bulb you like.
#40
Trancemaster
CampGareth
So if I were to replace all the lights in my flat with smart bulbs then control them through google assistant (not got Google Home, so just assistant on a phone) I'd need... a smart things hub for ~£100 and then bulbs for each light fitting (13 GU10s, 4 B22s or whatever the standard bayonet is called) for ~£200, then if I wanted PIR in the bathrooms and hallway there's no way of doing that right now? That sound right to everybody? Any better/cheaper solutions out there?
Yes, replace your light switches with smart RF switches and a Broadlink RM Pro. The switches are about £12 each. The RM Pro is about £25. Then you either control them from the app, or get an Echo and pass the RM Pro config through to it using the Tasker plugin. This way you can use any old bulb you like.

Where do you get the switches so cheap?

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