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Intel Core i5 7600K retail boxed CPU £203.90 @ Amazon Italy

£203.90 @ Amazon Italy
I guess not a deal for everyone, depending on how you feel about the new AMD Ryzen 8 core CPU's, and can't wait for the 6c/4c release dates to arrive. Currently Amazon.it (Italy) have the i5 7600K,… Read More
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4m, 3d agoFound 4 months, 3 days ago
I guess not a deal for everyone, depending on how you feel about the new AMD Ryzen 8 core CPU's, and can't wait for the 6c/4c release dates to arrive.

Currently Amazon.it (Italy) have the i5 7600K, sold and dispatched by them for €239.95 + €6ish shipping, if you pay in Euro's using a fee free card this translates to between £203-204 presently, with a dispatch date of the 26th Feb.

The best price I can find from local shopping resources is £229.99, so a nice saving!

I'm pretty sure this is the cheapest unlocked Intel processor we have had since the middle of last year or before, but I've a funny feeling it won't be for long ;)
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1 Like #1
Yaradabbadoo
I have a bad feeling about Ryzen, I think it will be good for me, as I can use that many cores but for the main stream I don't know?
Maybe I will be wrong but all the demos and leaks are so concentrated on multi core situations, not gaming and everyday usage.
I guess we must wait for the next tier of procs to be released to get a feel.

Linus tested Battlefield 1. It beat out the equivalent priced Intel chip. Can't remember which one it was but Ryzen looks very good to me.

Although waiting for your favourite reviewer to fully test them out is the right way to go about it.
1 Like #2
K1LLER_HORNET
Yaradabbadoo
I have a bad feeling about Ryzen, I think it will be good for me, as I can use that many cores but for the main stream I don't know?
Maybe I will be wrong but all the demos and leaks are so concentrated on multi core situations, not gaming and everyday usage.
I guess we must wait for the next tier of procs to be released to get a feel.
Linus tested Battlefield 1. It beat out the equivalent priced Intel chip. Can't remember which one it was but Ryzen looks very good to me.
Although waiting for your favourite reviewer to fully test them out is the right way to go about it.

You can imagine that moving forward however, more cores certainly are not going to be worse than fewer. Also given the number of people I have seen recently saying they are still running Sandy Bridge 2500K's etc, and that's 5+ years old, having no reason to upgrade due to small jumps, a big jump to 8c/16t may give them another 5+ years of computer usage with out the need for upgrade, and as more software, be it games applications or OS upgrades become more heavily multi threaded Ryzen R7 looks like a solid choice. :)
1 Like #3
Uncommon.Sense
K1LLER_HORNET
Yaradabbadoo
I have a bad feeling about Ryzen, I think it will be good for me, as I can use that many cores but for the main stream I don't know?
Maybe I will be wrong but all the demos and leaks are so concentrated on multi core situations, not gaming and everyday usage.
I guess we must wait for the next tier of procs to be released to get a feel.
Linus tested Battlefield 1. It beat out the equivalent priced Intel chip. Can't remember which one it was but Ryzen looks very good to me.
Although waiting for your favourite reviewer to fully test them out is the right way to go about it.
You can imagine that moving forward however, more cores certainly are not going to be worse than fewer. Also given the number of people I have seen recently saying they are still running Sandy Bridge 2500K's etc, and that's 5+ years old, having no reason to upgrade due to small jumps, a big jump to 8c/16t may give them another 5+ years of computer usage with out the need for upgrade, and as more software, be it games applications or OS upgrades become more heavily multi threaded Ryzen R7 looks like a solid choice. :)

Still using my SB i5/2500k overclocked to 4.5ghz and running very nicely. One of the best overclockers ever. I would never buy a processor that was locked. Ryzen has my interest looking forward if it really is that powerful compared to the price fixed Intel options. Same with Nvidia and their cards. AMD dropped the 480 prices and low and behold Nvidia followed suit. They could have offered them for less and sold more!
2 Likes #4
Graham1979
Uncommon.Sense
K1LLER_HORNET
Yaradabbadoo
I have a bad feeling about Ryzen, I think it will be good for me, as I can use that many cores but for the main stream I don't know?
Maybe I will be wrong but all the demos and leaks are so concentrated on multi core situations, not gaming and everyday usage.
I guess we must wait for the next tier of procs to be released to get a feel.
Linus tested Battlefield 1. It beat out the equivalent priced Intel chip. Can't remember which one it was but Ryzen looks very good to me.
Although waiting for your favourite reviewer to fully test them out is the right way to go about it.
You can imagine that moving forward however, more cores certainly are not going to be worse than fewer. Also given the number of people I have seen recently saying they are still running Sandy Bridge 2500K's etc, and that's 5+ years old, having no reason to upgrade due to small jumps, a big jump to 8c/16t may give them another 5+ years of computer usage with out the need for upgrade, and as more software, be it games applications or OS upgrades become more heavily multi threaded Ryzen R7 looks like a solid choice. :)
Still using my SB i5/2500k overclocked to 4.5ghz and running very nicely. One of the best overclockers ever. I would never buy a processor that was locked. Ryzen has my interest looking forward if it really is that powerful compared to the price fixed Intel options. Same with Nvidia and their cards. AMD dropped the 480 prices and low and behold Nvidia followed suit. They could have offered them for less and sold more!

I'm still using the i5-2500K too @ 4.5 - but it's definitely time for an upgrade after so long, had this since 2011.

I have pre-ordered the 1700X Ryzen, but I'll likely cancel it - I just did it off the fact I could, lol.

Not sure which way I'm going to go; might just go 7700K Kaby Lake, I really don't know -- it's a perfect time to be upgrading at least, with a lot of options, it's just making the better decision.

A few people will say wait and see what Intel have to bring out, etc, but if you think like that you're never going to buy anything, lol.

Been playing Wildlands all night though at 1080p high preset with 60-90fps on my 2500k and 970 gtx, so could be worse.

Edited By: ritchiedrama on Feb 24, 2017 01:29
#5
Uncommon.Sense
K1LLER_HORNET
Yaradabbadoo
I have a bad feeling about Ryzen, I think it will be good for me, as I can use that many cores but for the main stream I don't know?
Maybe I will be wrong but all the demos and leaks are so concentrated on multi core situations, not gaming and everyday usage.
I guess we must wait for the next tier of procs to be released to get a feel.
Linus tested Battlefield 1. It beat out the equivalent priced Intel chip. Can't remember which one it was but Ryzen looks very good to me.
Although waiting for your favourite reviewer to fully test them out is the right way to go about it.
You can imagine that moving forward however, more cores certainly are not going to be worse than fewer.
Actually, CPUs with fewer cores tend to clock higher, which increases the IPC. Also, it's never been a more cores > fewer cores situation. If it was that simple, any 8-core smartphone would have better performance than any i5, which simply isn't the case. More cores doesn't automatically make a CPU better, despite what some may think...

http://i.imgur.com/GDyOS.png

Sometimes there's a big difference between theory and practice, and we really, really need to see these chips put through a barrage of practical tests before buying or recommending them. Just as with any other tech from any other company.
2 Likes #6
I would normally say I'm surprised at a deal which is the currently cheapest available from any sort of seller yet alone Amazon, being voted cold, but it just goes to show the contempt people have towards Intel due to their pricing of recent.

HotUKliketoshowouropionofwhatwefeelbeingrippedoffisDeals.com doesn't quite have the same ring to it does it? :)
#7
K1LLER_HORNET
Yaradabbadoo
I have a bad feeling about Ryzen, I think it will be good for me, as I can use that many cores but for the main stream I don't know?
Maybe I will be wrong but all the demos and leaks are so concentrated on multi core situations, not gaming and everyday usage.
I guess we must wait for the next tier of procs to be released to get a feel.

Linus tested Battlefield 1. It beat out the equivalent priced Intel chip. Can't remember which one it was but Ryzen looks very good to me.

Although waiting for your favourite reviewer to fully test them out is the right way to go about it.


it was the zen 7 1700 Vs i7 7700k
#8
BetaRomeo
Uncommon.Sense
K1LLER_HORNET
Yaradabbadoo
I have a bad feeling about Ryzen, I think it will be good for me, as I can use that many cores but for the main stream I don't know?
Maybe I will be wrong but all the demos and leaks are so concentrated on multi core situations, not gaming and everyday usage.
I guess we must wait for the next tier of procs to be released to get a feel.
Linus tested Battlefield 1. It beat out the equivalent priced Intel chip. Can't remember which one it was but Ryzen looks very good to me.
Although waiting for your favourite reviewer to fully test them out is the right way to go about it.
You can imagine that moving forward however, more cores certainly are not going to be worse than fewer.
Actually, CPUs with fewer cores tend to clock higher, which increases the IPC. Also, it's never been a more cores > fewer cores situation. If it was that simple, any 8-core smartphone would have better performance than any i5, which simply isn't the case. More cores doesn't automatically make a CPU better, despite what some may think...http://i.imgur.com/GDyOS.png
Sometimes there's a big difference between theory and practice, and we really, really need to see these chips put through a barrage of practical tests before buying or recommending them. Just as with any other tech from any other company.

Other than the fact Intel released the Q6600 just over 10 years ago, and at the time people were saying "pfft, what uses 4 cores, waste of money" yet anything less than 4 now seems 'pointless' - times have, and are moving on, more cores on smaller processes using software modified for more cores is the future. Come back in 2-3 years, and tell me I was wrong. ;)
#9
The old Q6600 vs E8400 argument all over again. Yes, at the time the E8400 was faster for gaming but later the quad pulled ahead by quite a bit.
Anyway, in anticipation of their Ryzen review (still under NDA), Computerbase did article on more cores vs faster ones:
"6, 8 or 10 core CPUs beat 4 faster cores"
https://i.imgur.com/li4fSen.png
And Intel's HEDT CPUs mostly beat the i7 7700K.
(A nice new feature of this review is that you can select only the games you want (click on 'Bearbeiten' and uncheck the ones you don't want).)
Also, most reviews tend to run their games on bare OS installs whereas many people do things like video encoding, or have other background tasks for which the extra cores make a big difference.
Obviously, for Ryzen it makes sense to wait for actual reviews and while 4GHz max for a 8C/16T CPU is actually very good atm it looks like the hex and quad cores will not run much faster than that. Since estimates of Ryzen's IPC are at around Haswell level, Intel's frequency advantage will most likely mean that for gaming they will stay a bit ahead. Ryzen looks like a really good server CPU though which is where Intel should be the most worried IMO.
Personally, I'd rather have more almost-as-fast cores than less-slightly-faster ones but then I don't just buy for gaming.
#10
Ryzen's coming to get ya :D
#11
The problem here, is this, many many games were originally designed for single core, then slowly moved to dual core, when their game engines updated...

This is the key here, if a studio does not make a game engine multi threaded then you have to play the ipc game with high clocks. If you care for a responsive system, go with a reasonable ipc and more cores .

Two things that only really work now if you have decent ipc is more cores and speed (mhz).
#12
BetaRomeo
Uncommon.Sense
K1LLER_HORNET
Yaradabbadoo
I have a bad feeling about Ryzen, I think it will be good for me, as I can use that many cores but for the main stream I don't know?
Maybe I will be wrong but all the demos and leaks are so concentrated on multi core situations, not gaming and everyday usage.
I guess we must wait for the next tier of procs to be released to get a feel.
Linus tested Battlefield 1. It beat out the equivalent priced Intel chip. Can't remember which one it was but Ryzen looks very good to me.
Although waiting for your favourite reviewer to fully test them out is the right way to go about it.
You can imagine that moving forward however, more cores certainly are not going to be worse than fewer.
Actually, CPUs with fewer cores tend to clock higher, which increases the IPC. Also, it's never been a more cores > fewer cores situation. If it was that simple, any 8-core smartphone would have better performance than any i5, which simply isn't the case. More cores doesn't automatically make a CPU better, despite what some may think...http://i.imgur.com/GDyOS.png
Sometimes there's a big difference between theory and practice, and we really, really need to see these chips put through a barrage of practical tests before buying or recommending them. Just as with any other tech from any other company.

I get your point but its practically been quashed since the various benchmarks show a marked improvement and even if it isnt better in performance the pricing is far better, so basically your comments are about 6 years out of date.
#13
Chidmas
[quote=BetaRomeo][quote=Uncommon.Sense][quote=K1LLER_HORNET][quote=Yaradabbadoo]
I get your point but its practically been quashed since the various benchmarks show a marked improvement and even if it isnt better in performance the pricing is far better, so basically your comments are about 6 years out of date.

The out dated gamers thinking will eventually die as the games engines become truly multithreaded which will work for the games quite nicely because if you start to think about how a game works it lends itself beautifully to multithreaded behaviour (esp ai and massive amount of clone units ) And look who provides consoles their chips - amd !!!!!!!

Edited By: taras on Feb 24, 2017 10:45
#14
It's show's even without reviews that Ryzen is having an impact though, since normally this sort of deal would be scorching hot, and instead people are down voting the pants off it! :)
#15
Uncommon.Sense
BetaRomeo
Uncommon.Sense
K1LLER_HORNET
Yaradabbadoo
I have a bad feeling about Ryzen, I think it will be good for me, as I can use that many cores but for the main stream I don't know?
Maybe I will be wrong but all the demos and leaks are so concentrated on multi core situations, not gaming and everyday usage.
I guess we must wait for the next tier of procs to be released to get a feel.
Linus tested Battlefield 1. It beat out the equivalent priced Intel chip. Can't remember which one it was but Ryzen looks very good to me.
Although waiting for your favourite reviewer to fully test them out is the right way to go about it.
You can imagine that moving forward however, more cores certainly are not going to be worse than fewer.
Actually, CPUs with fewer cores tend to clock higher, which increases the IPC. Also, it's never been a more cores > fewer cores situation. If it was that simple, any 8-core smartphone would have better performance than any i5, which simply isn't the case. More cores doesn't automatically make a CPU better, despite what some may think...http://i.imgur.com/GDyOS.png
Sometimes there's a big difference between theory and practice, and we really, really need to see these chips put through a barrage of practical tests before buying or recommending them. Just as with any other tech from any other company.
Other than the fact Intel released the Q6600 just over 10 years ago, and at the time people were saying "pfft, what uses 4 cores, waste of money" yet anything less than 4 now seems 'pointless' - times have, and are moving on, more cores on smaller processes using software modified for more cores is the future. Come back in 2-3 years, and tell me I was wrong. ;)
You're preaching to the choir on that point. I'm absolutely not going to buy a 4-core CPU, and I don't recommend anyone else buys a 4-core CPU - and I haven't recommended them for over a year, budget permitting. Just a couple of days ago here I linked to a Reddit compilation of benchmarks showing that many, many games nowadays take advantage of the eight threads available on i7 CPUs, so I'd say you're wrong about that, too - we don't need to wait a few years for games to take advantage of eight threads. It's already happened.

I was pointing out that "8-core CPU" doesn't necessarily mean "better than 4-core CPU", as you seemed to be stating. It takes more than just core count to be a good CPU. Otherwise, 8-core Bulldozer CPUs and Exynos 8 Octa CPUs would be outperforming i5s (spoiler: they're not).

Any i5 is better than the 8-core FX-8150 for gaming, so you can see that sometimes fewer cores can perform better.

(And for the other people "correcting" me, the quote I was responding to was: "more cores certainly are not going to be worse than fewer.". Context - ever heard of it? :{)
#16
Chidmas
BetaRomeo
Uncommon.Sense
K1LLER_HORNET
Yaradabbadoo
I have a bad feeling about Ryzen, I think it will be good for me, as I can use that many cores but for the main stream I don't know?
Maybe I will be wrong but all the demos and leaks are so concentrated on multi core situations, not gaming and everyday usage.
I guess we must wait for the next tier of procs to be released to get a feel.
Linus tested Battlefield 1. It beat out the equivalent priced Intel chip. Can't remember which one it was but Ryzen looks very good to me.
Although waiting for your favourite reviewer to fully test them out is the right way to go about it.
You can imagine that moving forward however, more cores certainly are not going to be worse than fewer.
Actually, CPUs with fewer cores tend to clock higher, which increases the IPC. Also, it's never been a more cores > fewer cores situation. If it was that simple, any 8-core smartphone would have better performance than any i5, which simply isn't the case. More cores doesn't automatically make a CPU better, despite what some may think...http://i.imgur.com/GDyOS.png
Sometimes there's a big difference between theory and practice, and we really, really need to see these chips put through a barrage of practical tests before buying or recommending them. Just as with any other tech from any other company.
I get your point but its practically been quashed since the various benchmarks show a marked improvement and even if it isnt better in performance the pricing is far better, so basically your comments are about 6 years out of date.
Oh, really? Thanks for telling me!

Maybe you should have read the comment to which I was responding, too? :p
#17
All I will say is remember when AMD hyped up the resent video cards and when people got them all was not as promised?

Just wait until people get these chips and try them out, pretty much all we know now is they cheaper than Intel and will be good for multi-core work flows, maybe:-)

Edited By: Yaradabbadoo on Feb 24, 2017 11:41
#18
BetaRomeo

I was pointing out that "8-core CPU" doesn't necessarily mean "better than 4-core CPU", as you seemed to be stating. It takes more than just core count to be a good CPU. Otherwise, 8-core Bulldozer CPUs and Exynos 8 Octa CPUs would be outperforming i5s (spoiler: they're not). Any i5 is better than the 8-core FX-8150 for gaming, so you can see that sometimes fewer cores can perform better.
(And for the other people "correcting" me, the quote I was responding to was: "more cores certainly are not going to be worse than fewer.". Context - ever heard of it? :{)

Ah, apologies for missing that - I will state however as most people interested in the CPU technology sector that the AMD 8 Core CPU's were not really 8 cores, as they shared FPU regs, cache etc. So you can't truly compare, saying more isn't better, since they weren't truly 8 full cores, like the Ryzen design. :)

It's also interesting to see that after nearly a whole day people still hate Intel :D
1 Like #19
The hate for Intel is strong! -82 and falling, first time I'm happy to see a good deal doing badly, even if I did post it! :)
#20
Cracking deal, why so much Intel hate? one question. How the hell do I order this from amazon Italy when i'm in the UK :P
#21
Gamerlover24
Cracking deal, why so much Intel hate? one question. How the hell do I order this from amazon Italy when i'm in the UK :P

Sorry, missed your comment - same as buying from Amazon.co.uk just need to use Chrome browser or similar to translate the pages. Login using your Amazon account, and follow the screen through to the last checkout page. Make sure you select Pay in € as it will show in GBP since you will be using a card that is GBP as it's main currency.

If you use a fee free credit card, like the Halifax Clarity, or one of the many Virtual Cards on offer then you get the best Forex rate and no fees. :)
#22
What's your opinion on Ryzen then?

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