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Just want to make everyone aware that saveonlaptops.co.uk are unleashing more CUBE computers. They started with the value range of CUBE gaming laptops and now they have the 1st desktop coming soon.

The specs are:

Intel i3 Dual Core 3.5Ghz Processor 4150 (4400 Graphics).
Kingston 4Gb DDR3 1600Mhz Memory
500Gb SATA3 Hard Drive
LiteOn 16x DVD RW
Memory Card Reader
Windows 8.1

***You will most likely get an i3-4160 instead, which is a slightly better processor :) ***
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#2
would you be able put a dedicated graphics card in this ?
#3
Looked at this and the Pentium K anniversary from box for same price. Personally think the K is a slightly better buy (8GB ram, and nigh on identical performance from CPU with more scope to overclock, if you're into that)

Both great buys though, and meet slightly different needs ( hyperthreading vs overclocking and more working memory)


j0nnycroft
would you be able put a dedicated graphics card in this ?
Yes

i3 http://www.box.co.uk/Cube_Slim_Bing_Series_Desktop_PC_with_Mi_1654305.html
Pentium k http://www.box.co.uk/Cube_Slim_Bing_Series_Desktop_PC_with_Mi_1654305.html

Edited By: tapi on Jan 07, 2015 16:38: links
#4
Will i be able to link this up to two monitors without adding a graphics card?
banned 2 Likes #5
Will this do Crysis 3 on Ultra? @ 8K?

Edited By: mumto17 on Jan 07, 2015 15:26
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gchild
Will i be able to link this up to two monitors without adding a graphics card?


Listing shows DVI & VGA so I'd say yes.
banned#7
gchild
Will i be able to link this up to two monitors without adding a graphics card?


Yes you can as long as only one is vga.
2 Likes #8
this is the same price as it has been for months and 2 previous deals posted have answered all questions.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/intel-i3-3-5ghz-desktop-4gb-ram-229-99-saveonlaptops-1979639

Edited By: Dave_dave69 on Jan 07, 2015 16:15
8 Likes #10
mumto17
Will this do Crysis 3 on Ultra? @ 8K?

Yes totally, but at 1 frame per minute.
#11
Not to shabby, heat added.
1 Like #12
Windows 8.1 with Bing is really dropping the price of PC's, good work Microsoft.
Looks decent value for money, heat.
#13
tapi
Looked at this and the Pentium K anniversary from box for same price. Personally think the K is a slightly better buy (8GB ram, and nigh on identical performance from CPU with more scope to overclock, if you're into that)

Both great buys though, and meet slightly different needs ( hyperthreading vs overclocking and more working memory)


j0nnycroft
would you be able put a dedicated graphics card in this ?
Yes

i3 http://www.box.co.uk/Cube_Slim_Bing_Series_Desktop_PC_with_Mi_1654305.html
Pentium k http://www.box.co.uk/Cube_Slim_Bing_Series_Desktop_PC_with_Mi_1654305.html

Both the same link.

Here is the Pentium K http://www.box.co.uk/Cube_Slim_Bing_Series_Desktop_PC_with_Mi_1650404.html
#14
Very nice specs. Does anyone know if the PSU on this can be swapped out to something more efficient like a picopsu?

I was going to do a £250 mini-itx build for a low power always-on file + plex server. I was considering the low power AMD Athlon 5350 server but the Intel i3-4150 on this is a whole lot more powerful and at a lower price. I just don't want to suffer in electricity bills and psu noise
#15
would this be good as a plex server? low cost setup and maintenance?
I believe i3 is minimum cpu for a full plex transcoding.
#16
nyasham
Very nice specs. Does anyone know if the PSU on this can be swapped out to something more efficient like a picopsu?

I was going to do a £250 mini-itx build for a low power always-on file + plex server. I was considering the low power AMD Athlon 5350 server but the Intel i3-4150 on this is a whole lot more powerful and at a lower price. I just don't want to suffer in electricity bills and psu noise

Really can't see why you can't use a pico PSU. Unless it has non standard ATX connectors inside?
1 Like #17
slamukdeals
would this be good as a plex server? low cost setup and maintenance?
I believe i3 is minimum cpu for a full plex transcoding.

Plex recommend a minimum benchmark score of 2000 for 1080p transcoding and 1500 for 720p.
Source: https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201774043-What-kind-of-CPU-do-I-need-for-my-Server-computer-

The Intel i3-4150 on this has a benchmark of 4953 so it'll do just fine for plex server.
Source: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-4150+%40+3.50GHz
#18
RustySpoons
nyasham
Very nice specs. Does anyone know if the PSU on this can be swapped out to something more efficient like a picopsu?

I was going to do a £250 mini-itx build for a low power always-on file + plex server. I was considering the low power AMD Athlon 5350 server but the Intel i3-4150 on this is a whole lot more powerful and at a lower price. I just don't want to suffer in electricity bills and psu noise

Really can't see why you can't use a pico PSU. Unless it has non standard ATX connectors inside?

Yeah that's what I want confirmation on. The core parts on this seem off-the-shelf and is mainly cheap because it uses Windows 8.1 Bing edition which costs manufacturers exactly £0.00. I just want some kind of confirmation on the psu, but I assume it can be swapped out
#19
RustySpoons
Windows 8.1 with Bing is really dropping the price of PC's, good work Microsoft.
Looks decent value for money, heat.

I take it this is Microsoft's new advertising slogan "Windows 8.1 with Bing" as I have seen quite a few adverts for this now.

What's "bing" got to do with it?

Why don't they just call it Windows 8.1?
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mbailey
RustySpoons
Windows 8.1 with Bing is really dropping the price of PC's, good work Microsoft.
Looks decent value for money, heat.
I take it this is Microsoft's new advertising slogan "Windows 8.1 with Bing" as I have seen quite a few adverts for this now.
What's "bing" got to do with it?
Why don't they just call it Windows 8.1?

This article explains it well
#21
mbailey
RustySpoons
Windows 8.1 with Bing is really dropping the price of PC's, good work Microsoft.
Looks decent value for money, heat.

I take it this is Microsoft's new advertising slogan "Windows 8.1 with Bing" as I have seen quite a few adverts for this now.

What's "bing" got to do with it?

Why don't they just call it Windows 8.1?

Windows 8.1 and Windows 8.1 with Bing is the same OS, no difference.

What Microsoft have done is offer Windows 8.1 for free to OEM manufacturers of PC's and Tablets, on the provision they do not change the search engine, they have to leave it as Bing. Manufacturers get paid to put different search engines on and bloatware, they are not allowed to do this with Windows 8.1 with Bing. This has driven down the price of lower end PC's and small tablets.
#22
I've updated the description OP. :)
1 Like #23
nyasham
Very nice specs. Does anyone know if the PSU on this can be swapped out to something more efficient like a picopsu?

I was going to do a £250 mini-itx build for a low power always-on file + plex server. I was considering the low power AMD Athlon 5350 server but the Intel i3-4150 on this is a whole lot more powerful and at a lower price. I just don't want to suffer in electricity bills and psu noise
The PSU can be changed to another one, see this thread...

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/intel-i3-3-5ghz-desktop-4gb-ram-229-99-saveonlaptops-1979639?page=5

HTH. :)
#24
Will this do Planet side 2 on Ultra @ a stable 60fps?
#25
What is the consensus on this compared to the lenovo i5 deal?

http://m.hotukdeals.com/deals/lenovo-think-centre-edge-73-i5-tower-desktop-339-99-ebuyer-com-75-cashback-2110454

From what i can tell, the cube is more upgradeable due to higer psu wattage but lenovo is better outof the box due to faster cpu and quieter fans?
#26
The cases are quite different...

This is much smaller and limits what you can put in.
The Lenovo will have loads of space but probably needs a psu..
#27
Comment[quote=tapi]Looked at this and the Pentium K anniversary from box for same price. Personally think the K is a slightly better buy (8GB ram, and nigh on identical performance from CPU with more scope to overclock, if you're into that)

Both great buys though, and meet slightly different needs ( hyperthreading vs overclocking and more working memory)


Would u say the K series would outperform (after a quick play with OC genie) the 3i?
#28
The K also has a different motherboard with HDMI out..... That's would be the one for me - but it only fits in my TV cabinet sideways - depth is 40cm + big lead out of the back!
banned#29
EllJay420
Will this do Planet side 2 on Ultra @ a stable 60fps?


Not, it's only using intel integrated graphics. If you install a low profile nvidia 750, then it will just about.
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Does anyone know if the PSU on this can be swapped out to something more efficient like a picopsu?

I was going to do a £250 mini-itx build for a low power always-on file + plex server. I was considering the low power AMD Athlon 5350 server but the Intel i3-4150 on this is a whole lot more powerful and at a lower price. I just don't want to suffer in electricity bills and psu noise
We run an i3/2x4GB/2.5" laptop drive and quite power-hungry 4-port Intel NICs (it's a custom UTM) with a picopsu powered by a laptop power brick. Power draw measured at the wall peaks at 42W, and is usually 30W, so I'd expect so, although I'd guess the 7200rpm HDD here is 3.5" so will have a higher start current and this PC also has a DVD reader.

Points to watch with the picopsu -
- you'll need to drill a hole somewhere to mount the DC in power socket - best to disassemble all to avoid metal shavings!
- picopsu leads are quite short, so measure up, you may need extensions
- check the picopsu wiring loom to ensure you have enough of the right sockets
- IME the DC-DC converters run cool and are fine with convection cooling.
Sorry if teaching grandma and that, but it caught me out :p

Edited By: Hootwo on Jan 08, 2015 13:31: HDD
#31
Hootwo
Does anyone know if the PSU on this can be swapped out to something more efficient like a picopsu?

I was going to do a £250 mini-itx build for a low power always-on file + plex server. I was considering the low power AMD Athlon 5350 server but the Intel i3-4150 on this is a whole lot more powerful and at a lower price. I just don't want to suffer in electricity bills and psu noise
We run an i3/2x4GB/2.5" laptop drive and quite power-hungry 4-port Intel NICs (it's a custom UTM) with a picopsu powered by a laptop power brick. Power draw measured at the wall peaks at 42W, and is usually 30W, so I'd expect so, although I'd guess the 7200rpm HDD here is 3.5" so will have a higher start current and this PC also has a DVD reader.

Points to watch with the picopsu -
- you'll need to drill a hole somewhere to mount the DC in power socket - best to disassemble all to avoid metal shavings!
- picopsu leads are quite short, so measure up, you may need extensions
- check the picopsu wiring loom to ensure you have enough of the right sockets
- IME the DC-DC converters run cool and are fine with convection cooling.
Sorry if teaching grandma and that, but it caught me out :p

Thanks, very helpful to know.

It sounds like a lot more hassle than I'm willing to commit so I'll drop this and just build from scratch. I'd rather pay a bit more and build the system I want keeping all warranties in tact :-)
#32
Could be ... there are some nice motherboards with on-board cpus at linitx and mini-itx We've been running untangle for a while on one of these with another picopsu 24/7 and power consumption is very reasonable.
Not sure how strong a cpu you need to transcode though?
#33
Hootwo
Could be ... there are some nice motherboards with on-board cpus at linitx and mini-itx We've been running untangle for a while on one of these with another picopsu 24/7 and power consumption is very reasonable.
Not sure how strong a cpu you need to transcode though?

On-board cpu's are too far on the low-end for transcoding for my needs. For Plex to reliably transcode 1080p to an iPad for example, I'd need a minimum cpu benchmark score of 2000. The AMD Athlon 5350 seems to just about hit that while being very low power (25W).

The original build I had in mind was this http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/YqnkRB but the cost of Windows makes it more expensive than the considerably more powerful machine on offer here. I could go the Linux route for a £204 build but from what I've read, Windows drivers are better at handling idle power consumption
#34
For me this is not really a gaming rig. Probably okay for web browsing and other stuff. Firstly to future proof yourself you will want a minimum of 8gb of ram. Windows alone will gobble up a lot of 4gb. PSU looks rather low in power. Again I can't tell how good or bad it might be just from the power reading.

I would probably go for an i5 4460 processor. Unless you plan to upgrade to an i7 when they drop in price. (In which case buy cheap now. i3.) Motherboard can probably only go up to 16gb of ram. Buying a higher end motherboard allows 32gb of ram.

For the price £229 you get what you pay for. Bang for buck. AMD option might offer better value pending on what you want to do.

Remember Broadwell and Skylake CPU's are about 6-12 months away. Skylake will be a big jump in performance.

This machine is not really for me. I would probably recycle parts on my current machine and spend 450 or so to make it more high end. Reuse HD/SSD/ Windows etc.
#35
Side thought on ram. My current system 6-7+ years old had 4gb of ram when built. This gives you an idea of how limited the ram on this system is. Also using a 4gb stick means to up it to 16gb you have to remove the 4gb stick at some point. Or just upgrade system to 8 or 12 gb ram.
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^ I wouldn't get too worried about RAM. 4GB is plenty for most of us; if you have the cash then help yourself. Adding an SSD (to replace the c: drive) - now that's another story...

Edited By: Musicrab on Jan 10, 2015 08:54
#37
One way to save money if you upgrade later is to have Intel Pentium G3258 Anniversary Edition CPU and overclock it. It's completely unlocked but only has 2 cores but will in some cases out perform i7 when overclocked. £52. Will be much cheaper than a i3/i5 or i7. Main downside for me is number of cores.

Intel Pentium G3258 Anniversary Edition review.

This review is quite positve about the CPU for it's budget value. I would still get a motherboard that can support high end CPUs at a later date. The idea being to slot in the best i7 CPU once the prices crash in 2-3 years time. You would need some experience in installing these.

Lack of ram on my computer is one of the main reasons for me wanting to upgrade from 4gb. If you only use word/excel and web then maybe 4gb will do. The issue is the computer will use the hard drive for storage once that 4gb is used up. If you are using a SSD drive this is not a good idea as it will continually write to the drive itself.

Also think long term. 4gb may be okay now but in 3-4 years time this will gradually seem like less and less. Although you should be able to buy an 8gb stick for 50-60 quid. I would use a minimum of 16gb on any new system I buy. 8 is probably okay. I do use my computer for games so ram is more important to me.


Edited By: gummby on Jan 11, 2015 12:00
#38
gummby
... I do use my computer for games so ram is more important to me.
Ahh, games. Watch Dogs certainly required 6GB. Witcher 3 will require 6GB... So I agree, gamers should start at 8GB.
#39
The other thing to note with Windows 8.1 is the difficulty to actually remove it. Apparently with Intel's newer chips due out later this year it will force you to install Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 when it comes out. I spot a partnership here which I don't like. Forced updates by the back door with the new chips.

Yep not really for gamers this machine. I think the Pentiums Aniversary edition ram is capped at 1333 speed. Shame.

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