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Avoidance isn't illegal so let's not treat him like a criminal. It is morally wrong but this guy shouldn't be singled out. David Cameron was morally wrong to name and shame jimmy when his buddy Gary Barlow OBE is doing the same thing especially considering that he very recently publicly supported the Tories election campaign.

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#1
Must try harder.....
1 Like #2
Surely their worth more than that?

If anyone is wondering what the hell im on about, the op was originally claiming play.com were on sale for 3.98

Edited By: Sawb on Jun 21, 2012 00:33: Title change
#3
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Politics/Pix/pictures/2012/6/20/1340207268256/Jimmy-Carr--008.jpg
#4
CHEEPSTUFFRULES!
Must try harder.....
http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/sbres/605.$plit/C_67_article_2052350_body_articleblock_0_bodyimage.jpg?11%2F06%2F2009%2010%3A20%3A30%3A169
4 Likes #5
Can't you somehow get it from a Jersey seller and avoid the VAT?
#6
VDisillusioned
Can't you somehow get it from a Jersey seller and avoid the VAT?
http://www.thisisjersey.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Sup01632118_Cropped.jpg
#7
Sawb
Surely their worth more than that?
A TAX dodge using Jersey that allegedly shelters £168 million a year from the UK taxman has been exposed in a series on tax avoidance by The Times.

The Times has used the example of comedian Jimmy Carr – who has performed many times in Jersey – to illustrate how the K2 scheme works by transferring salaries into a Jersey-based trust, which lends investors back the money, tax-free.

The K2 scheme works because the loans are technically repayable, but the people running it told an undercover reporter ‘no one has ever been in a position where they have had to repay’.

The Times has revealed the scheme, which is run by tax advisers in the UK, as part of a series on tax avoidance, including a leading article describing the complex British tax system as ‘unfair’ and urging ‘radical action’ to tackle avoidance.

The head of the finance industry’s promotion body – Jersey Finance chief executive Geoff Cook – said that the articles were part of an ongoing debate about what constituted tax avoidance and what constituted tax evasion.

And he said that the K2 scheme was devised and administered in the UK, not in Jersey. ‘I do not think these articles necessarily hurt our reputation. I think that we have a reputation for doing things the right way and abiding by the law and abiding by international standards.

‘I am not defending the schemes, but the judgment call about whether they are acceptable or not is for the UK.’
1 Like #8
Hugh Jass!
CHEEPSTUFFRULES!
Must try harder.....
http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/sbres/605.$plit/C_67_article_2052350_body_articleblock_0_bodyimage.jpg?11%2F06%2F2009%2010%3A20%3A30%3A169

It was a comment about the useless deal details not Jimmy Carr. When I posted the comment I had no clue what on earth the deal was for from either the title or the details. Did you fix it or was it a mod?

Jimmy Carr was an @r$e before this story broke anyway.
2 Likes #9
Shame that he's been scapegoated by the press for this more so than everyone else doing it.

I noticed that Gary Barlow and his fellow backing singers got away pretty scott-free with today's Times exposé about their tax dodging.
Wouldn't happen to be anything to do with keeping face in light of his recent OBE, would it?!
3 Likes #10
Don't know how much the said Mr Carr earns, or how much tax he's avoided, but surely this is a drop in the ocean compared to the 4.5Bn Vodafone alledgedly avoided paying HMRC a cuple of years ago?
1 Like #11
Is that £3.98 ex or inc VAT?
1 Like #12
Sharpharp
Is that £3.98 ex or inc VAT?
Depends if it's delivered via Jersey
3 Likes #13
ukhotdeals1
Don't know how much the said Mr Carr earns, or how much tax he's avoided, but surely this is a drop in the ocean compared to the 4.5Bn Vodafone alledgedly avoided paying HMRC a cuple of years ago?

Not to mention Boots' ongoing behaviour.

I saw this story on the news earlier and thought Davey boy had his priorities a little mixed there; he's going after Carr et al and leaving Boots to carry on? How much are the CEO's of Boots lining Dave's pockets with then? Maybe Jimmy should start sucking-up to some politicians?
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VDisillusioned
Can't you somehow get it from a Jersey seller and avoid the VAT?

Doesn't work either way because of the fact that Play is a Jersey seller and the joke just ain't funny.

However does work well if it is an ape of Carr's "joke" style. I.E punchy but obvious, limited and lame. Nice one.

I wish people would read between the lines about why Carr has been singled out in this. I find him a smug, unfunny coke head. But he isn't the only highly paid celebrity to have used this loophole.

So why is he getting all the criticism?

It is not because he has made jokes at other's greed. It is because there is a lot of other highly unsavoury information has been found out about this guy, predominantly because of the Levenson enquiry but has been kept quiet for years.

Let's just say his career will be going the same way as Barrymore, John Leslie and Gary Glitter once the truth really emerges.
8 Likes #15
Avoidance isn't illegal so let's not treat him like a criminal. It is morally wrong but this guy shouldn't be singled out. David Cameron was morally wrong to name and shame jimmy when his buddy Gary Barlow OBE is doing the same thing especially considering that he very recently publicly supported the Tories election campaign.
2 Likes #16
Not to mention The times parent company news corp has dodged how many billions.. pot... kettle.. black.

Should of been avoided by closing loopholes, but i guess if it benefits some, it will be left.. *ahem* cameron, how did your daddy save so much.
#17
I know I'd avoid tax if I could do it legally.
4 Likes #18
Cameron singles Jimmy Carr out as being 'immoral' for paying as little tax as he legally can get away with. Isn't that a bit rich from a Tory who cut the 50% tax for all the very rich people? Also Carr can't be the only person in the country using this sort of scheme. Why has the PM picked him out? Is it just revenge because even though he's a high earner and therefore a natural conservative, Carr still has the guts to go on 10 o'clock live and **** off the Tories?
2 Likes #19
Nothing wrong with tax avoidance my question what are the monkeys doing at hmrc to have failed to close this loophole.. Unfortunately those who can employ top accountants and those who can.t work for hmrc
1 Like #20
About as funny as vomit..cold
1 Like #21
Looking forward to this weeks 8 out of 10 cats, wonder will jimmy or one of the panel members mention it.
#22
it just takes the **** out of us that have a normal job and get taxed every way we turn, legal or not
#23
the MP's expenses scandal wasn't so long ago to be using phrases such as 'morally wrong'

Edited By: stubar on Jun 21, 2012 07:10
1 Like #24
Does this include tax;) no but seriously I agree with others. **** off Cameron you have no right to talk about morality when it comes to taxes. You put the Phillip Green in charge of a to carry out a review of government spending and procurement, a man who dodged £285 million in tax! Cameron hired Coulsen lest we forget. Oh and perhaps worst of all he runs a cabinet of millionaires (himself included) who are overseeing the biggest attack on the poorest groups in society since the Victorian era. Don't talk to me about morality Mr. Cameron
1 Like #25
UnclePotter
About as funny as vomit..cold
Yes some of his jokes are a bit sick!
#26
anonymouscheapskate
Cameron singles Jimmy Carr out as being 'immoral' for paying as little tax as he legally can get away with. Isn't that a bit rich from a Tory who cut the 50% tax for all the very rich people? Also Carr can't be the only person in the country using this sort of scheme. Why has the PM picked him out? Is it just revenge because even though he's a high earner and therefore a natural conservative, Carr still has the guts to go on 10 o'clock live and **** off the Tories?

The 50% tax was costing more to administer than it was bringing in. All the people managed to avoid the tax with the many loopholes labour had proliferated the tax system with.

High earners aren't natural tories. There are plenty of working class people who are fed up of supplementing a bloated welfare state.

People should boycott anybody doing this.
#27
This will backfire on Camoron when it comes out that all his MP colleagues are avoiding tax as well.

If you let the tax laws be made by people (MPs and senior civil servants) who benefit from tax avoidance then you shouldn't be surprised that they build in tax loopholes.
#28
Still, at least we now know that Carr earns about £3.1 million a year.

Taking the 50% tax rate, he's managed to avoid putting around £1.5 million into the pot.

Which would roughly pay 50 teachers or nurses salaries for a year.

Funny that ;)
1 Like #29
Or it could pay for another attack on a country that doesn't require our "intervention/saving"
#30
Hadouken!
Shame that he's been scapegoated by the press for this more so than everyone else doing it.

Shame he's been scapegoated at all. This isn't tax dodging, it is tax management, and perfectly legal. If the government don't want people to play by the rules to avoid paying more tax than they might otherwise, then they need to change the rules.

The only way that government will ever be cut down to size is by it being starved. Ultimately this can only happen when they finally completely collapse the economy, otherwise they just keep hiring more government employees and putting more regulations and taxes on the rest of us, but using the overly complicated tax laws to avoid feeding them can stave off the end for awhile.
#31
hollymia
VDisillusioned
Can't you somehow get it from a Jersey seller and avoid the VAT?

Doesn't work either way because of the fact that Play is a Jersey seller and the joke just ain't funny.

Actually, the price was from UK seller Zoverstocks on Play marketplace, so VAT would be payable, the joke wouldn't have worked if it was from Play directly.

And I think all of the tax avoidance scams are hilarious. Johnny public, who dutifully pay their taxes, are rightly outraged that the wealthy can get out of paying. But we have an administration who are "going to have a good hard look at the problem" when in reality they know they dare not do anything too significant because if they do a number of their wealthier backers (and pals) are going to tell them to **** off.
#32
Remember, what he does not pay in tax you do, he gets richer, you get poorer
#33
but since he has his own company isn't he actually paying people for the work they do for him? Isn't this subject to NI from employers and other taxations????

How about HMRC remove the 50+ people working for them who don't pay full tax since they claim to be "consultants" from an out sourced company. Then they claim they are outside IR35 when in reality they are paying less than 21% tax on earning over £70K.

Maybe if they did that I would have sympathy with Cameron. Until then I say well done Jimmy for finding the same tax loophole that Amazon and others use by headquartering in Luxembourg!!!!
#34
Some people here are missing the point of why Carr has been singled out. He's the only one who tells jokes about bankers avoiding paying tax, i.e. he's a hypocrite as well as a tax-dodger. He's now admitted in a tweet that "I now realise I’ve made a terrible error of judgement."
#35
pasheast
Some people here are missing the point of why Carr has been singled out. He's the only one who tells jokes about bankers avoiding paying tax, i.e. he's a hypocrite as well as a tax-dodger. He's now admitted in a tweet that "I now realise I’ve made a terrible error of judgement."

Translates to 'I now realise I will sell a lot less tickets/DVDs if I do not show some regret'.

I don't understand all the people saying it is wrong to scapegoat him, the rest of society needs to see this sort of thing is wrong and (unfortunately for Carr) he has the sort of high public profile that makes him a perfect candidate for this.
#36
but members of Take That who have been awarded Jolly medals from the great leaders dont?
#37
duaneforest
Or it could pay for another attack on a country that doesn't require our "intervention/saving"

+1
#38
It is curious that he has been singled out, I imagine pretty much every celebrity earning that sort of money is involved in a very similar tax dodge in some way shape or form.
#39
CHEEPSTUFFRULES!
pasheast
Some people here are missing the point of why Carr has been singled out. He's the only one who tells jokes about bankers avoiding paying tax, i.e. he's a hypocrite as well as a tax-dodger. He's now admitted in a tweet that "I now realise I’ve made a terrible error of judgement."

Translates to 'I now realise I will sell a lot less tickets/DVDs if I do not show some regret'.

I don't understand all the people saying it is wrong to scapegoat him, the rest of society needs to see this sort of thing is wrong and (unfortunately for Carr) he has the sort of high public profile that makes him a perfect candidate for this.

Jimmy Carr always sells all his tickets and i wouldn't be surprised if DVD sales increased, especially in the interim.
#40
duaneforest
but members of Take That who have been awarded Jolly medals from the great leaders dont?

No they also should be made an example of along with everyone else on this little tax dodge and I hope they mite think about paying back the tax they 'avoided' as well.

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