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After researching for a good value washing machine, I believe this to tick virtually all the boxes at a very reasonable £269 delivered.

The John Lewis brand washing machine's are made by the same company that makes AEG and Zanussi - probably the best other than the much more expensive Miele.

A Washing Efficiency Class
A+ Energy Class
B Centrifugal Efficiency Class (1200 Spin speed)

Don't get hung up about the spin speed either - see this link regarding spin speed efficiency and drying costs...
http://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/wordpress/washing-machine-spin-speed-efficiency-figures-and-drying-costs/

A quality product from a quality company??...and even if it does break it has the 3 year warranty!!

The rest from JL themselves......

The 1200 rpm spin John Lewis JLWM1200 washing machine is rated A+ for energy consumption and washes a generous 5.5kg load while being economical on water, detergent and energy. Its large porthole also makes loading and unloading easier.

The Aqualift wash system used on the JLWM1200 brings water to the top of the tub and distributes it evenly for an optimum wash. There are 10 wash programmes including a delicate 30ºC wash. The programme time for a full load of clothes washed at 60°C is 135 mins.

Carrying the John Lewis name, our range of washing machines are both economical, well built and well designed. Manufactured with reliable German technology they are developed with the latest engineering and electronic systems. And, to preserve your confidence in the value, quality and reliability of our appliances, each comes with a free 3 year guarantee.
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#1
"Don't get hung up about the spin speed either - see this link regarding spin speed efficiency and drying costs...
http://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/wordpress/washing-machine-spin-speed-efficiency-figures-and-drying-costs/"


Don't take the VERY old prices quoted there too seriously either! :-(

Looks a similar if not marginally better deal than another today where this very issue was raised:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=571073

The slow 1200 spin will be more significant if you intend to do significant a\mount of tumble drying of clothes - you need to compare up to date electricity costs for it to mean much - if in fact that site is accurate, as it merely quotes figures without making any statement as to their origin :-(

It does however have a small load capacity....... 5.5kg rather than 6kg which is more common, and now machines are being frequently seen with 7 or even 8kg capacity.
#2
All the controls look like my parents Zanussi, I was there yesterday fixing it! :)
#3
err....not sure how much you pay for your electricity??
The site quoted was basing cost on 10p per kwh & stated "That means drying a load of cottons spun at 1200 would use 3.3kwh in electricity, 3.3 x 10p = 33 pence . If using a 1400 spin washing machine which costs up to £50 more to buy, it would cost (3.1 kWh x 10p) 31 pence to tumble dry – a mere 2 pence cheaper. You would need to tumble dry such a load 2,500 times to recoup the extra cost in buying the 1400 spin washer if you paid £50 more for it"

Even if you pay twice (or thrice) that per kwh the argument still holds - a mere 4p (8p) cheaper! :shock:

The site quoted did in fact provide a link as to the origin for its figures & it is current - [url]www.ukpower.co.uk/tools/running_costs_electricity/[/url]
#4
Jeez, do we have to have that debate yet again... ! :)
#5
BlackCloud
Jeez, do we have to have that debate yet again... ! :)


Exactly,I cant believe some people are so tight to worry about an extra couple of pennies for drying.....and are prepared to quote statistics for it....in EVERY washing machine deal. zzzzzzzzzzzz
#6
Looks a great deal with the 3 year warranty hot from me :thumbsup:
#7
BlackCloud
All the controls look like my parents Zanussi, I was there yesterday fixing it! :)


thats because it is a Zanussi machine rebadged. Better off buying a discounted Zanussi if you can find cheaper ( I haven't looked BTW ! )
#8
xbexyx;7396408
err....not sure how much you pay for your electricity??
The site quoted was basing cost on 10p per kwh & stated "That means drying a load of cottons spun at 1200 would use 3.3kwh in electricity, 3.3 x 10p = 33 pence . If using a 1400 spin washing machine which costs up to £50 more to buy, it would cost (3.1 kWh x 10p) 31 pence to tumble dry – a mere 2 pence cheaper. You would need to tumble dry such a load 2,500 times to recoup the extra cost in buying the 1400 spin washer if you paid £50 more for it"

Even if you pay twice (or thrice) that per kwh the argument still holds - a mere 4p (8p) cheaper! :shock:

The site quoted did in fact provide a link as to the origin for its figures & it is current - www.ukpower.co.uk/tools/running_costs_electricity/


I detailed the calculations in my post on the other thread I referred to, (using just 3Kw as the rating of a tumble drier, in reality, you quote 3.1Kw, in which case the figures will be slightly higher - as I say there, that is ASSUMING the power consumption figures quoted are accurate - The link you provided has ZERO to do with the source for the figures relating to percentage of water remaining, that's relating to electricity costs, which I know, or anyone can find their own rate from their electricity supplier.
That site you quote is very peculiar... it has a Tumble drier as being rated at 2400W! As you mention 3.1Kw, you know that 2.4Kw is not right, so that casts some doubt on it's value without spending time checking everything else on the site :-(

The varying amount of power consumed by drying washing from various spin speed washing machines is what is totally unreferenced - they may be arbitrary figures from the authors head for all I know, however even accepting those figures in the table, the money stacks up, and that's not taking into account ever rising power costs.

I was alos referring to even faster speed washers than 1400 too - 1600 and 1800 spin is far from rare now, yet often the machines are not that much more expensive, so the calculations will be different in those cases.

Also, I do dry something like 500+ loads of washing per year, as I mention in the other thread, I do 10 loads per week. Some people have no option by to dry clothes in a drier - flat dwellers, for example and as in my case, I am disabled, so it's the only way I can get through the washing, I certainly am not fit enough to hang and collect 10 loads a week, and run in and out to collect it every time it rains and rehang them when it stops!

Posters on previous threads on here have quoted far higher usage than that in the past too. If you are a single person with 3 loads a week, then the figures will be different.

My economic argument doesn't relate to short warranty periods either - buying cheap washers with 1, 2 or 3 year warranties mean the return period will need to be higher - but this isn't how to get better economy - washing machines DO clap out quickly, (I can't see many arguing with that statement!) therefore to try and get best value, as well as best convenience, I have bought a machine that has a manufacturers warranty for 5 years, and in that time I have found the figures have worked out very well. I have bought cheaper brand machines for years and paid the price - my current washer has me into clear "profit" over those already, (even without considering the 1600 spin speed savings!) and it is still under warranty, something my last machine could never do as it was SO poor.
#9
bigst;7397553
Exactly,I cant believe some people are so tight to worry about an extra couple of pennies for drying.....and are prepared to quote statistics for it....in EVERY washing machine deal. zzzzzzzzzzzz


If hundreds of Pounds are pennies to you, then what you say is dead right.

Be my guest, sleep away, the only thing that puzzles me is if money means so little to you then I have no idea why you would even read a deal on a cheap washing machine? :?
#10
OK, don't buy one then....:whistling:
The choice is yours of course!
IMHO it is still a good deal at £269 with a great 3 year warranty if nothing else.
Please show me another machine with a similar spec at that price with that warranty........
#11
xbexyx;7398523
OK, don't buy one then....:whistling:
The choice is yours of course!
IMHO it is still a good deal at £269 with a great 3 year warranty if nothing else.
Please show me another machine with a similar spec at that price with that warranty........


It is a decent enough deal... I said that in the first place. Certainly way better than the Indesit one posted today!
That said, it depends on the potential user, which is why I posted what I did.

Unfortunately the black OR white mentality on here makes it difficult to get any point across without it turning into some sort of battle. Reasoned argument & debate is something so many people don't seem to have experience of :-(
#12
i am confused, i want to buy either this machine, or the bosch Bosch WAA28165 for £285 from curreys (with 5wash code).


please help asap.

alternatively i have noticed the beko WME7267 for £252 from reevoo.com but only 1 year garentee.
#13
Amin;7549515
i am confused, i want to buy either this machine, or the bosch Bosch WAA28165 for £285 from curreys (with 5wash code).
please help asap.
alternatively i have noticed the beko WME7267 for £252 from reevoo.com but only 1 year garentee.


What's the problem, you buy this one with 3 year warranty, or the Bosch with 1 year warranty, but marginally faster spin. The Beko is faster still, but with 1 year warranty, and a bit of a non-brand. Depends if the spin speed matters to you (ie whether you use line or tumble drier), and whether the risk of the short warranty means much to you.

Trade-offs, like buying anything. What featrure you choose to trade off as more important than another feature is a personal issue, we all make those decisions with everything we buy. :whistling:

I would probably still buy a 5 year warranted 1600 spin AEG or Siemens though... (the speed because of my Tumble drier use, and the brands because of the hope & past track record of reliability) if I could get one at a sensible enough price (harder than ever now!) but you are looking at perhaps a couple of hundred quid more. Others would probably go further out on a limb and look at something like Miele, and I couldn't criticise them, but it means bigger initial outlay.
#14
Well, my order of preference is (Initial cost) i don't want to spend too much, then spin speed, as i do not have a tumble drier, or the space for one so will be drying at home on a line or clothes horse, and reliability are also important.


now if i had all the money in the world then i would follow your advice and buy a high spin aeg or something but two-hundred ish is my target price and even this is stretching it a bit.

no dryer+winter means spin speed is important, but i live alone so 5kg load is fine. ps, i thought the bosch was two years warranty?

so you can see why i am stuck, do i go for the 3 year warranty or the 1600 spin? i know a machine broken down will cost me more in the long run. but i cant have soaking wet clothes either and i cant afford such a large amount, what about a cheap washer drier?
#15
Amin;7551136
Well, my order of preference is (Initial cost)
no dryer+winter means spin speed is important, but i live alone so 5kg load is fine. ps, i thought the bosch was two years warranty?

so you can see why i am stuck, do i go for the 3 year warranty or the 1600 spin? i know a machine broken down will cost me more in the long run. but i cant have soaking wet clothes either and i cant afford such a large amount, what about a cheap washer drier?


If money is the issue, then cheap is the only option. Sadly usually a poor option, as it often leads to poor value.

Washer driers are invariably rubbish, as they are a completely bodged compromise, not cheap, and I wouldn't have one given, if you have no space for separate equipment, then move would be my advice!
#16
actually i rather like my flat so wont be moving anytime soon. decided to go for the beko wme7267 7kg machine with 1600 spin, as its very popular on review. if something goes wrong within 2 years theres allways the salesofgoods act!

thanks.
#17
It's now £329

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