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First post sorry havent mastered how to upload image...can anyone tell me how??
originally posted by joss 2 weeks 6 days ago at £950 great find but its now an even bigger bargin at £899
56inch TV
Enlarge Image FULL 1080p HD Ready
INCLUDES matching AV cabinet
7 Aspect Modes
HDMI Input w/HDCP
Actual Colour: Silver
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#1
errr image already there without me doing anything now i look really stupid.... :-D
#2
Looks like an excellent deal, voted hot!
#3
bit of a monstrosity. I don't see sense in teles this size for the home. anyways good find nonetheless
#4
ryan7
bit of a monstrosity. I don't see sense in teles this size for the home. anyways good find nonetheless

over compensating? :w00t:
banned#5
Oops. There goes one weeks ages and brings in a one hour lecture from the wife. Voted hot tho
#6
I think perhaps the picture on this is wrong - the link shows a different style TV and it is a rear-projection just to warn people. I don't want to be too critical but I think these are being sold cheap as everyone knows this is rather dated technology.

Good screen size I suppose but would rather have a slightly more expensive Plasma or LCD I think.
#7
Specifications & Features
Picture/Display
56 " Diagonal Screen Size (Inch)
16:9 Aspect Ratio
2000:1 Contrast Ratio
900 cd/m2 Screen Brightness
Digital Comb Filter
2.5 (ms) Screen Response Rate
1024x768 pixels
720p resolution

Manufacturers Technology Features
HD Ready

Convenience
Parental Lock/Parental Control
Teletext
Plug & Play
Quick Setup
Picture & Picture
Picture & Text
PAL Progressive Scan

Sound & Power Output
Nicam Digital Stereo
BBE Sound
20 W (RMS) Output Power

Connections
1 x HDMI Connection/s
1 x Component Video Connection/s
3 x RGB Scart Connection/s
1 x PC D-Sub Connection/s

Accessories Supplied
Open Cabinet Stand
Remote Control
User Manual
Mains Cable
Batteries
Quick Start Guide
Warranty Card

Projector
Rear Projection

Awards
December 2007 What Video and High Def Best Buy

Note that this is a rear projection TV, and it's 1024x768, not 1920x1080.
#8
it states 1080p but in details it says 720p ??if it is 720p its not worth paying this much for
#9
SpecialK
it states 1080p but in details it says 720p ??if it is 720p its not worth paying this much for


I think it means it will downsample a 1080p input down to it's 1024x768 display size. I.e., it supports it.
#10
I'm hoping everyone who is buying this realises that this is not a flatscreen tv. It's a rear projection so will need to always be on it's stand. Plus it's almost two years old so although while it may have been worth £2500 then it won't be now.

I don't think I'd ever have a tv this big if you couldn't keep it out of the way by hanging it on your wall.

However it did get a great review:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/review/2006/07/15/JVC-HD-56ZR7J-56in-HD-ILA-TV/p1
#11
farhan123
Oops. There goes one weeks ages and brings in a one hour lecture from the wife. Voted hot tho

One weeks wages?!?! Lucky sod!!
I hope she beats you to death!! Lol
#12
2000:1 contrast ratio is a bit worrying :?
#13
carleast;1693895
I'm hoping everyone who is buying this realises that this is not a flatscreen tv. It's a rear projection so will need to always be on it's stand. Plus it's almost two years old so although while it may have been worth £2500 then it won't be now.

I don't think I'd ever have a tv this big if you couldn't keep it out of the way by hanging it on your wall.



I'd never hang a 56" on a wall anyway, too much risk with that weight. On top of that, you need somewhere for your DVD/sat boxes, so it ends up taking no more floorspace than a LCD/plasma. The thickness is pretty minimal compared to the width, so most people will never even notice the difference.

As to the actual screen size, if you like movies it's a godsend - far more immersive. There's a reason cinemas specify 30 degree viewing angles, which at 3 metres or so makes this set the right size. For sports, there's not much difference.


Another review here:

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/displayreview.php?reviewid=6793

Note while these tend to have pretty stunning brightness, they do have a little problem with black levels (kinda inevitably, you can't fire around that much light and not leak some). Not a huge issue though, and not as much as LCDs, and contrast is good though. JVC never quite achieved the LCoS perfection that Sony did, although it's still a fine set.

Generally this is the way to go if you want a set of this size (twice the size of a 40", 4x the size of a 28") - there are very few making really big sets, so prices are generally a bit obnoxious. If you just want a quality TV, go for a 50" plasma instead.
#14
deek72
One weeks wages?!?! Lucky sod!!
I hope she beats you to death!! Lol


I was just gonna reply with the same... more like one month's wages for me.
#15
"FULL 1080p HD Ready" implies that this is 1080p, however it is not. Stating this accepts 1080p inputs would be correct, but saying "FULL 1080p HD Ready" is wrong. Probably the error of the person that made the listing, under the common misconception that 1080p is 1080p, not recognising the difference between downscaling and an actual 1080p resolution.
#16
becareful buying from sound and vision there always getting there specs wrong..i was gonna buy a toshiba lcd tv from them a few months ago the website stated 1080p and when i called them they stated 1080p but i read everywere else it was 720p but could display 1080i .so i called them again the guy said its a new model its 1080p but i didnt believe him so i called toshiba and the tech guy was really pissed off and when i told him it was sound and vision he said they get lots off calls about false info from these guys .
so i called sound and vision again and told him what toshiba told me it was 1080i only the guy said look do u want it or not if you dont want it **** off !! so i slammed the phone down there a bunch of jokers
#17
its now been changed too 720p resolution only not 1080p better expire this thread
#18
JeeBeePSB
I think it means it will downsample a 1080p input down to it's 1024x768 display size. I.e., it supports it.


every tv is a 1080p then ?1080p means thats its maximum resolution.this only goes upto 720p so is clearly not a 1080p. as the spec says otherwise
#19
I wish I could afford it
#20
pete_l;1693735
over compensating? :w00t:

kinds of agree...our lounge is about 19x12.5ft, sitting about the far end (19ft) of our wall mounted 42in kuro is fine, but 50in would be fine, i think 56 is a little big for most but obviously only lcd's or plasmas......but tv's this size would benefit alot from wall mounting

having said that my bro has just bought a house in denver and it comes complete with a tv room which has a bar and 63in plasma
#21
arfster;1694203
I'd never hang a 56" on a wall anyway, too much risk with that weight. On top of that, you need somewhere for your DVD/sat boxes, so it ends up taking no more floorspace than a LCD/plasma. The thickness is pretty minimal compared to the width, so most people will never even notice the difference.

As to the actual screen size, if you like movies it's a godsend - far more immersive. There's a reason cinemas specify 30 degree viewing angles, which at 3 metres or so makes this set the right size. For sports, there's not much difference.


Another review here:

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/displayreview.php?reviewid=6793

Note while these tend to have pretty stunning brightness, they do have a little problem with black levels (kinda inevitably, you can't fire around that much light and not leak some). Not a huge issue though, and not as much as LCDs, and contrast is good though. JVC never quite achieved the LCoS perfection that Sony did, although it's still a fine set.

Generally this is the way to go if you want a set of this size (twice the size of a 40", 4x the size of a 28") - there are very few making really big sets, so prices are generally a bit obnoxious. If you just want a quality TV, go for a 50" plasma instead.


you can hang a 56in on a wall..just buy a decent fixed bracket that spreads the load....my 42in kuro is mounted on a stud (but then the screws are several inches long and go about 1/4 to 1/2 way into the brick wall behind the stud wall....the guy who installed reckoned it would support a 60in screen
#22
bossmanuk;1694255
"FULL 1080p HD Ready" implies that this is 1080p, however it is not. Stating this accepts 1080p inputs would be correct, but saying "FULL 1080p HD Ready" is wrong. Probably the error of the person that made the listing, under the common misconception that 1080p is 1080p, not recognising the difference between downscaling and an actual 1080p resolution.

hd ready is 720p
full hd is 1080p
the is no such thing as full 1080p hd ready
most people dont need 1080p, only blu ray and the almost defunct utilised 1080p and a very very small amount of ps3 content (mainly demos, doubt if this will change much) and a small no of xbox360 content (mainly game demos, dount if this will change much).......dont fall into the marketing hype as most 1080p tv's are imo awful, especially for standard def
#23
SpecialK
every tv is a 1080p then ?1080p means thats its maximum resolution.this only goes upto 720p so is clearly not a 1080p. as the spec says otherwise


No, many older 720p TVs cannot downscale a 1080p input.
#24
royals
hd ready is 720p
full hd is 1080p
the is no such thing as full 1080p hd ready
most people dont need 1080p, only blu ray and the almost defunct utilised 1080p and a very very small amount of ps3 content (mainly demos, doubt if this will change much) and a small no of xbox360 content (mainly game demos, dount if this will change much).......dont fall into the marketing hype as most 1080p tv's are imo awful, especially for standard def



Did you actually read what I said? Read it again. I wasn't saying that 1080p was good, or that you need it. I was saying that the site was wrong in it's description.

Plus, your statement "hd ready is 720p, full hd is 1080p, the is no such thing as full 1080p hd ready" makes no sense. HD ready is marketing language, and a certification of being able to display HD images. (I think HDMI and component connections are neccessary for this certification), but there is nothing wrong with defining something as "full 1080p HD ready", as this is stating the TV is 1080p (1920x1080) and HD ready.

Ever notice the 1080p certification logo? Here's a reminder:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/HD_ready_1080p_logo.svg
#25
bossmanuk;1694575

Plus, your statement "hd ready is 720p, full hd is 1080p, the is no such thing as full 1080p hd ready" makes no sense. HD ready is marketing language,


It's a European regulatory label (EICTA) - they created the label specifically to avoid marketing cons.

"Full 1080p HD ready" means nothing beyond what the manufacturer wants it to mean. It's a blatant attempt to mislead nontechnical customers into thinking the set is 1080p.
#26
bossmanuk;1694575
Did you actually read what I said? Read it again. I wasn't saying that 1080p was good, or that you need it. I was saying that the site was wrong in it's description.

Plus, your statement "hd ready is 720p, full hd is 1080p, the is no such thing as full 1080p hd ready" makes no sense. HD ready is marketing language, and a certification of being able to display HD images. (I think HDMI and component connections are neccessary for this certification), but there is nothing wrong with defining something as "full 1080p HD ready", as this is stating the TV is 1080p (1920x1080) and HD ready.

Ever notice the 1080p certification logo? Here's a reminder:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/HD_ready_1080p_logo.svg


From what hifi:-
First, let's explain those terms properly. HD-ready sets have a minimum horizontal resolution of 720 lines, and can handle both 720p and 1080i high-definition video (as found on, say, Sky HD). You'll find some variation in the overall resolution figure in HD-ready sets: most plasmas are 1024 x 768, while most LCDs are 1366 x 768 designs. Full HD sets, on the other hand, have far more pixels: 1920 x 1080, or over two million. And which is better? Well, it's not a simple question. Let's just say Full HD is better in theory, but not always in practice.
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I dont agree re: using the term full 1080p HD ready (or similar) its just yet another term to confuse the public - people should stick to the two PROPERLY defined terms...its not difficult is it

The High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI) is a licensable compact audio/video connector interface for transmitting uncompressed digital streams
#27
arfster;1694590
It's a European regulatory label (EICTA) - they created the label specifically to avoid marketing cons.

"Full 1080p HD ready" means nothing beyond what the manufacturer wants it to mean. It's a blatant attempt to mislead nontechnical customers into thinking the set is 1080p.


agreed...though rather confusingly the EICTA standards are:-
http://www.eicta.org/index.php?id=731
#28
royals
you can hang a 56in on a wall..just buy a decent fixed bracket that spreads the load....my 42in kuro is mounted on a stud (but then the screws are several inches long and go about 1/4 to 1/2 way into the brick wall behind the stud wall....the guy who installed reckoned it would support a 60in screen


I would love to see a rear projection tv on a wall, it must weigh about 3ton, and is as large as a lounge. I would not touch a rear projection with a barge pole. My mate bought one a few years ago, what a waste of money. AND ITS ENORMOUS..
#29
i have Voted COLD....the reason why as its 56in ...with only 2000.1 contrast ratio....this is discusting for this size of tv...and its also dates.....nobody wants a rear projection in there living room...

the normal contrast ratio on a 42in - 50in tv's these days has around 8000.1 - 15000.1 contrast ratio's...

only 1 hdmi....

oh and you would need to sit atleast....20ft away from this tv.
#30
AND its not 1080p...................not even 1080i ...even tho it will go into 1080i...it will just downscale.....this is very misleading...1024x768.....thats the res......if if it was 1080p then it would be,,,,,1920x1080
#31
If its rear project, those bulbs don't last long and can cost a lot of money to replace.
#32
Awww. Rear projection, otherwise I would have jumped at it.
#33
This deal has already been posted on hee but it was £950 then. As I said before my bf bought one of these last month after reading in Decembers issue of What HD Magazine that it was the best of its kind. He purchased it from here:

http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/produ...oduct_id=10658

though at £919! Which is even cheaper, and comes with the stand. It has now been reduced to £870 now and comes with interest free credit and Quidco!

The picture on SD isn't excellent but on HD it blows you away. It is better than alot of TVs I have seen around and for those of you saying that it is heavy. Two men carried it in and he managed to put it onto the stand himself, so no cranes needed there!

If you want a huge telly and aren't too bothered about the extra few centimetres in depth then go for this one as I think its a real bargain. Plus it looks really nice too!
#34
killswitch;1694925
nobody wants a rear projection in there living room...


You have to see it in person. Unless you look round the back of a modern RPTV, you'd never know it wasn't a plasma/LCD, as the rear slopes so sharply. Remember the set is 56", but it's only 17" deep, and that only at the centre. At the sides it's only a couple of inches thick.

If you have the point of entry into a room at a right angle to the TV, people will notice, so if that bothers you don't buy it. If not, or if it's in a corner of a room, nobody will ever know.


the normal contrast ratio on a 42in - 50in tv's these days has around 8000.1 - 15000.1 contrast ratio's...
Only on plasmas. Most LCDs have real (ie not dynamic) contrast a lot lower than this set. That's why the reviews are so good - actual picture quality trumps faked specs any day.

I saw this set working a while back, and although the black levels aren't ideal due to its insane brightness (brightest colours I've ever seen, on any technology), they're also not as bad as most LCDs.

You're right about the HDMI though, that's irritating. Could buy a splitter box, but those might cause problems with HDCP connections. You could use component though, with a shortish cable the picture won't be any different.

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