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64GB SSD for around £100 - I know there have been cheaper but not for 64GB. Seems like a reasonably good deal. as of saturday 22nd 00:08, 28 in stock. Delivery is free.

This is a 2nd gen kingston ssd.

Specs from ebuyer website:
Product Specification
Capacity = 64GB
Form Factor = 2.5
Read speed = 200MB/sec
Write speed = 110MB/sec
IOPS = Random 4K read: 3,900, Random 4K write: 15
Stand-alone or kit
Interface = SATA I & II
Weight = 81.65 grams (+/- 2 grams)
TRIM Support = Yes
3 Year Warranty

(Thanks SILLY)
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#1
I am keen to move to an SSD hard drive, but I'm waiting for prices to come down further before making the move. This one is heading in the right direction and Kingston is a good make, but this particular drive did not come out well in last mopnth's PC Pro, they advised going for the V+ model instead, which has a much better performance, but costs nearly £250 for the 128GB model.

In another year or so, they might actually be affordable!
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There are different versions of this drive, with different r/w sequential speeds. I think I'm correct that the specs for this one are: SNV425-S2/64GB - 64GB Kingston SSDNow V, Flash, 2.5" SSD, 1 x SATA 3Gb/s, Read 200MB/s, Write 110MB/s. If so, this is a good price. If it's the slightly older version of the same name with Sequential Speed up to 100MB/sec. read; 70MB/sec. write, then it's not worth buying. eBuyer have listed the model number of the former version; but just be sure you are not fobbed off with the latter.

EDIT: on ebuyer site they state Read speed = 200MB/sec Write speed = 10MB/sec. I presume this is a mistake. If it is 10MB/s, don't touch with a bargepole! I've asked a question on the eBuyer product discussion board. Hopefully they will answer.
#3
I paid £83.24 for my last one of these . Not user firmware upgradeable and no trim support.
#4
dontasciime
I paid £83.24 for my last one of these . Not user firmware upgradeable and no trim support.


For the Read 200MB/s, Write 110MB/s version?

I'm in the market for a new SSD, so would appreciate your advice on what you'd go for today with a budget of around £125. I have a second HDD bay on the laptop so only require enough memory to run Win 7 64-bit and a few programs such as Photoshop and Lightroom.
#5
Has the 2nd bay actually got the sata connectors though. One of my laptops has a 2nd bay but no headers.
#6
The wrong picture is being used. It looked like the older model which my previous comment referred to.

So It does support trim.
#7
Though I still would not be happy at the SNV425-S2/64GB no showing up in Kingstons support . So it would appear it still is not user firmware upgradeable.
#8
ebuyer have corrected the write speed now remember though it's up to *
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There is the V+ http://www.ebuyer.com/product/191454 £159 this is the kit which will either be for a desktop to allow you to place 2.5 in desktop or a notebook bundle which will have a 2.5 usb enclosure.


Up to

Sequential Read Throughput – 230MB/s
Sequential Write Throughput – 180MB/s



Strangely the non bundle version is £10 dearer but stocks are limited on both.

I would just settle for the 99 version or pay £10 extra and get either desktop or notebook bundle

I don't think much of ssd drives tbh I prefer my Samsung F1, F3 (F2 as well but not as much)

The ssd would be better in pairs So I might actually buy 2 of these in desktop bundle as none of my laptops take 2 hard drives.

Even then if your running XP there is not trim support and you would need to align the partition to get decent performance on xp you will need to do the same on Vista and windows 7(depends on what you format with etc) (If you partition the drive as it further complicates things)

Read up on ssd partition alignment offset.
#10
dontasciime, thanks for that info. I'll do some reading before making a purchase. I'll also check the second drive - it's a Dell Studio 1747.
#11
I'm confused is this the newer one or not?

Any ideas :)
#12
off the ebuyer page:

Product Specification
Capacity = 64GB
Form Factor = 2.5”
Read speed = 200MB/sec
Write speed = 110MB/sec
IOPS = Random 4K read: 3,900, Random 4K write: 15
Stand-alone or kit
Interface = SATA I & II
Weight = 81.65 grams (+/- 2 grams)
TRIM Support = Yes
3 Year Warranty

By the way, you don't need to align the drive under Win7 as it does it automatically.
#13
silly
off the ebuyer page:

Product Specification
Capacity = 64GB
Form Factor = 2.5”
Read speed = 200MB/sec
Write speed = 110MB/sec
IOPS = Random 4K read: 3,900, Random 4K write: 15
Stand-alone or kit
Interface = SATA I & II
Weight = 81.65 grams (+/- 2 grams)
TRIM Support = Yes
3 Year Warranty

By the way, you don't need to align the drive under Win7 as it does it automatically.


Not always .. partition the drive or have it create the 100 meg system partition then check offset
#14
I'm not a computer engineer or anything but it does say this on the MSDN blog:

Since SSDs tend to perform at their best when the operating system’s partitions are created with the SSD’s alignment needs in mind, all of the partition-creating tools in Windows 7 place newly created partitions with the appropriate alignment.
#15
silly
I'm not a computer engineer or anything but it does say this on the MSDN blog:

Since SSDs tend to perform at their best when the operating system’s partitions are created with the SSD’s alignment needs in mind, all of the partition-creating tools in Windows 7 place newly created partitions with the appropriate alignment.


It can say anything it wants (Test it yourself and waste your time as you need to install w7 again)

Get a 64gb ssd and partition the drive into 2 format in windows 7 install windows 7 onto 1st partition and then look at your 31k offset. (this is bad)
#17
This is the 2nd gen version. it came out in march and has trim as stock

Been using it for ages and its nice and quick

250 read
100 write

Bargain at this price! Buy one if you have been waiting for them to come down

This is a similar price to the Intel 40gb Value. better spec and 24gb more for hardly no price increase
#18
Cheers, Ordered :)
#19
dontasciime
It can say anything it wants (Test it yourself and waste your time as you need to install w7 again)

Get a 64gb ssd and partition the drive into 2 format in windows 7 install windows 7 onto 1st partition and then look at your 31k offset. (this is bad)


can you put your recommendation in layperson's terms for me? how should I format / partition the ssd to add Win 7 for best results? Thanks.

and btw, amazon appear to have the same drive at the same price, although they appear to have some details from the older version on their full description (model number is showing as new vers. though, so should be ok)
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During install at point where it's just about to ask what type of install you want upgrade / custom / press shift and f10 (windows 7 disk ) or get hold of vista recovery disc .




You would type things below (list disk will show which disks) 1 hdd would be listed as disk 0

diskpart

list disk

select disk 0

clean

create partition primary

select partition 1

active

format fs=ntfs quick unit=4096


to align for xp etc

select disk 0

list partition

create partition primary align=32,64,128 (choose one number) eg create partition primary align=128



If w7 does create the 100meg partition on install you will probably find the offset is fine as long as you don't split the drive into 2 partitions with some software (the offset has messed up on mine when 100 meg partition was created). Run AS ssd benchmark (the second after w7 installs (don't want to find out after you update everything, that its not quite right)) and see if it reports the offset as BAD. http://www.alex-is.de/PHP/fusion/downloads.php?cat_id=4. If so start again.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?48366-How-to-setup-Core-V1-2-Solid-Apex-Vertex-SSD-with-aligned-partitions-using-USB-(if-available-on-the-drive)-or-SATA.-Updated-to-show-how-to-use-Vista-recovery-disk&p=326656&viewfull=1#post326656

http://superuser.com/questions/59068/configuring-an-ssd

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=107126

http://club.myce.com/f138/ssd-faq-297856/

http://krick.livejournal.com/33224.html

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=859126

As silly mentioned windows 7 should align fine as but as I mentioned not always depending on how the drive has been / is partitioned etc.

With no messing on stick drive in laptop as sole disk and go to install w7 it will be fine (if you dont mid the 100 meg partition) check in disk managemnet after to see if there is a hidden partition then, check offset with as ssd benchmark etc (chances are it will be green and fine) but if you partition drive wipe out partition you woudl need to re-align
#21
Hey, what a gent! You've saved me a lot of time, and I really appreciate it. Thanks again dontasciime. :thumbsup:

I'll probably not get around to doing this until the weekend or later, but will let you know how easy/difficult I found it :)
#22
Now 99.99! :)
#23
sweet just reading reviews, if they are good i'll be buying one
#24
Sounds like a very good deal...but I would never buy anything from ebuyer.
Their after-sale service is appalling!
#25
wnofal
Sounds like a very good deal...but I would never buy anything from ebuyer.
Their after-sale service is appalling!


what experience do you have from them?

i've ordered a lot of stuff in the past year and whenever it went wrong they picked it up the very next day for free and even sent a replacement before they had the faulty item back, they offer refunds no questions asked, delivered next day when ordered with super saver...my experience with them is brilliant and would really only buy from them, they have the lowest prices anyway most of the times, they only other company that beats them sometimes are aria with their super specials :thumbsup:
#26
I'm considering buying this drive as it's cheap enough for the size/performance. I'm just wondering about moving my existing 64GB partition to the SSD. I could do this easily with Acronis or other imaging software although I fear the 31K offset.

I just read that Acronis 10 preserves the partition alignment, so I'm going to try that first. Only my XP partition has a 31K offset but that is to be expected. I won't be using that anymore anyway.
#27
i agree SSDs are the future but i will not touch them at the moment, they are just not good value for money

if you want comparable real world performance but 2 western digital caviar black they new gen SATA3 with 64mb cache and set them up in raid 0, on a good i7/i5 machine with at least 6 gb ram i think there will be no real world noticeable difference....if i look at the tests they make on youtube...opening microsoft access / word / outlook in 1 second compared to 2-3 seconds doesn't really do it for me

good deal for who really wants one...
#28
andycraze
i agree SSDs are the future but i will not touch them at the moment, they are just not good value for money

if you want comparable real world performance but 2 western digital caviar black they new gen SATA3 with 64mb cache and set them up in raid 0, on a good i7/i5 machine with at least 6 gb ram i think there will be no real world noticeable difference....if i look at the tests they make on youtube...opening microsoft access / word / outlook in 1 second compared to 2-3 seconds doesn't really do it for me

good deal for who really wants one...


Ah but I do think you need to look at this from the perspective of time. Time is something that you can never get back and you can never buy more of. The time saved using the OS and apps is more than enough to justify an SSD. Especially if you use applications such as Photoshop whereby the time saved opening and saving documents really does add up. Forget boot time it is operating system response time and application response time that is crucial. Add it all up and SSDs do save you time in the course of a day using a PC.

Another point to make is that you don't need less reliable RAID 0 or a Core i5/i7 with 6GB ram. I have an E4400 based system with 3GB ram, a 640GB hard drive and an Nvidia 8800GT. I know that adding an SSD to my 2007 circa system will massively improve the performance over all other upgrades, unless I'm a particular heavy gamer i.e. new gfx card.

For anyone preferring Amazon there are a few left with free super saver delivery at the same price (same manufacturer part #) >

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-SSDNow-64GB-SATA2-Drive/dp/B00378KHUA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1274356724&sr=8-2
#29
andyken

In another year or so, they might actually be affordable!


Very wishful thinking ;-) It'll be at least 3 more years before the 128 GB models (i.e. mainstream laptop capacity) become reasonable in price.
#30
andycraze
what experience do you have from them?

i've ordered a lot of stuff in the past year and whenever it went wrong they picked it up the very next day for free and even sent a replacement before they had the faulty item back, they offer refunds no questions asked, delivered next day when ordered with super saver...my experience with them is brilliant and would really only buy from them, they have the lowest prices anyway most of the times, they only other company that beats them sometimes are aria with their super specials :thumbsup:


You must spend a lot Ive spent well over £8,000 there and they have always insisted on receiving goods back first before sending a replacement. Even when they have sent the wrong goods (eg the goods are much less value that I have paid for)

They must love you :lol
#31
This is a very poorly performing drive. Not worth the £, I'm afraid. Samsung first gen 64GB drives have been priced lower than this - last year - and paying more than £1/GB for the Kingston SSDNow V is a pretty bad decision, imo.

EDIT: I thought this was the first generation drive of the same name. I would still look elsewhere for an Intel or Samsung drive, however.
#32
I think this drive is spot on for an OS drive, it's all about seek and read time and not really write time. £100 is an excellent price for this.
#33
liddlefeesh
This is a very poorly performing drive. Not worth the £, I'm afraid. Samsung first gen 64GB drives have been priced lower than this - last year - and paying more than £1/GB for the Kingston SSDNow V is a pretty bad decision, imo.

EDIT: I thought this was the first generation drive of the same name. I would still look elsewhere for an Intel or Samsung drive, however.


Where can you get either for near £99? I agree the Indilinx Barefoot controller based SSDs are faster and especially the Intel based Gen 2 controllers but they cost around £50 more easily. Sandforce based drives are also much faster than this drive, but for the money this is a nice performing SSD. This drive has a JMicron JMF618 controller which is a lot better than the JMicron controller used in 1st gen SSDs.

Anyone tried Flashfire?

http://flashfire.org/xe/
#34
There is a review here: http://www.pureoverclock.com/article945.html. This is for the 128Gb version which has a higher advertised write speed so bear that in mind. 160MB/sec. on 128Gb version vs 110MB/sec. write on the 64Gb version (up to of course)

Quick version: Not as quick as other (much more expensive!) SSD's but still many many times faster than a mechanical hard drive.
#35
bought an Acer net-top from them... hard-drive turned faulty in less than a month, called and told them...they referred me to bloody Acer (who are by far the worst customer care EVER and their call centre in india is just bloody awful). Acer screwed it up with the processor (notice that i sent it to get the hard drive replaced), then called Ebuyer again who simply told me to stay with acer because they(ebuyer) have nothing to do with me anymore.....they won't replace, they won't refund...because Acer is dealing with it!
Now I'm left with ACER's horrid service....so after 1 month and whole price paid, I will end up with a messed up pc and bitter experience with both Ebuyer and Acer
#36
wnofal
bought an Acer net-top from them... hard-drive turned faulty in less than a month, called and told them...they referred me to bloody Acer (who are by far the worst customer care EVER and their call centre in india is just bloody awful). Acer screwed it up with the processor (notice that i sent it to get the hard drive replaced), then called Ebuyer again who simply told me to stay with acer because they(ebuyer) have nothing to do with me anymore.....they won't replace, they won't refund...because Acer is dealing with it!
Now I'm left with ACER's horrid service....so after 1 month and whole price paid, I will end up with a messed up pc and bitter experience with both Ebuyer and Acer


Your first 12 months warranty is with the supplier, ebuyer are fobbing you off and you've fallen for it :(

Go back to them and demand a replacement or refund as the item is not fit for purpose!
#37
wnofal
bought an Acer net-top from them... hard-drive turned faulty in less than a month, called and told them...they referred me to bloody Acer (who are by far the worst customer care EVER and their call centre in india is just bloody awful). Acer screwed it up with the processor (notice that i sent it to get the hard drive replaced), then called Ebuyer again who simply told me to stay with acer because they(ebuyer) have nothing to do with me anymore.....they won't replace, they won't refund...because Acer is dealing with it!
Now I'm left with ACER's horrid service....so after 1 month and whole price paid, I will end up with a messed up pc and bitter experience with both Ebuyer and Acer


Sale of Goods Acts (1979) protects you but possibly, ironically, only after the warranty has expired.
#38
fishmaster
Where can you get either for near £99? I agree the Indilinx Barefoot controller based SSDs are faster and especially the Intel based Gen 2 controllers but they cost around £50 more easily. Sandforce based drives are also much faster than this drive, but for the money this is a nice performing SSD. This drive has a JMicron JMF618 controller which is a lot better than the JMicron controller used in 1st gen SSDs.

Anyone tried Flashfire?

http://flashfire.org/xe/


yeah I've tried it .It's excellent on an aspire 110 very very very slow 8gb ssd flashfire makes it useable. . Does not seem to speed up my dell mini 9 Stec or my crucial mt225's

This may interest you http://www.easyco.com/index.htm
#39
andyken
I am keen to move to an SSD hard drive, but I'm waiting for prices to come down further before making the move. This one is heading in the right direction and Kingston is a good make, but this particular drive did not come out well in last mopnth's PC Pro, they advised going for the V+ model instead, which has a much better performance, but costs nearly £250 for the 128GB model.

In another year or so, they might actually be affordable!


how can you fill more than 64GB with OS and apps? buy one now (maybe not this particular one). i've been running SSDs for a couple of years, mostly 32GB and even that is enough (just) for a dual boot winxp/mint (i reckon)
#40
Why are 3.5" so hard to come by? Do these come with a caddy or something? I want to raid 2 ssds once the price is right but I have a real Pc and not a poncy laptop ;)

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