Komputerbay 8GB (2 X 4GB) DDR3 DIMM (240 pin) 1333Mhz 8 GB KIT - £53 Delivered @ Amazon - HotUKDeals
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* 100% COMPATIBLE MEMORY CAPACITY: 8GB
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#2
I'm no expert at this, but it's probably the brand. Never get cheap branded RAM. One of the reviews says it's actually 667Mhz which is half the speed advertised. Who knows what else is wrong with it.
#3
Artheido
I'm no expert at this, but it's probably the brand. Never get cheap branded RAM. One of the reviews says it's actually 667Mhz which is half the speed advertised. Who knows what else is wrong with it.


The clock rate for PC3-10600 DDR3 ram is 667Mhz. It should technically state 1333 MT/s not 1333MHz but everybody does. :)

I think the problem is the amount of reviews with failures. If your lucky you get a good set if not you end up messing about sending them back. Am guessing they buy not to spec higher graded chips from manufactures cheap to produce these modules. For most people at this level will want branded.

I don't think there is a huge market for these as budget users who may only have a 2 slot mobo will be content with 4GB and users with 4 slots 8gb will be plenty. If your a user looking at 16GB your most likely want ultra reliability and faster speeds which this product doesn't offer.
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I've brought that KINGSTON advertised in link above (1st comment) and in 3DMark it says 667mHz and in BIOS & system 1333mHz...
#5
The chap who reviewed it and was well pleased, Mr R Vernon has written a number of tech reviews for Amazon.

The chap whose RAM fell out the box, (diddums, RAM is really quite resilient) had a high spec system which he had had problems cooling.

The other reviewer claiming it was 666MHz not 1333MHz, GAVINLEWISHUKD's comment above, also from wikipedia
DDR2's current range of data transfer rates is 400–1066 MT/s using a 200–533 MHz I/O clock

Similarly for DDR3
DDR3 modules can transfer data at a rate of 800–2133 MT/s using both rising and falling edges of a 400–1066 MHz I/O clock


This is actually lower latency RAM than the more expensive RAM (ie all of it) and the reason is it is overvolted by the manufacturer to suit the performance freak sector of the market. So it is not very power efficient. Some people just want the moon on a stick.

I think I got the ice because it was posted late and people were drunk/following a crowd mentality.
#6
Also, fulfilled by Amazon so you really have got lifetime comeback if it ever fails. It is 20% less than even Kingston Value!
#7
Worst deal ever!

Lol!

Cheapest 4Gb module is £35 so you're going to vote an £18 second module cold?

C'mon chaps, more feedback please.

I'm trying to make the memory market more competitive, at least give reasons for rejecting such an ostensibly good deal, other than single April 11th review.
4 Likes #8
People are probably voting cold because you're trying to justify it with loads of repeated posts. It happens.
#9
hot from me 8)
#10
I voted cold because of the name! oO
#11
Agharta
I voted cold because of the name! oO

Agharta, you always vote cold, that's why you haven't posted any deals lately.
#12
zaphodbb
Agharta, you always vote cold, that's why you haven't posted any deals lately.

And how exactly are those two things related?
Here’s why I haven’t posted any deals directly recently – One & Two.
#13
I would never compromise on brand name for RAM. Being one of the most important part of the computer, it should be reliable enough. and what is this brand 'Komputerbay'???? Even this name sounds so cheap! COLD
#14
zaphodbb
The chap who reviewed it and was well pleased, Mr R Vernon has written a number of tech reviews for Amazon.

The chap whose RAM fell out the box, (diddums, RAM is really quite resilient) had a high spec system which he had had problems cooling.

The other reviewer claiming it was 666MHz not 1333MHz, GAVINLEWISHUKD's comment above, also from wikipedia
DDR2's current range of data transfer rates is 400–1066 MT/s using a 200–533 MHz I/O clock

Similarly for DDR3
DDR3 modules can transfer data at a rate of 800–2133 MT/s using both rising and falling edges of a 400–1066 MHz I/O clock


This is actually lower latency RAM than the more expensive RAM (ie all of it) and the reason is it is overvolted by the manufacturer to suit the performance freak sector of the market. So it is not very power efficient. Some people just want the moon on a stick.

I think I got the ice because it was posted late and people were drunk/following a crowd mentality.



As stated above it's aimed at a limited market. The lower latency is no surprise as they obviously use graded higher clocked memory so lowering the latency is the most logical thing to do if running it at lower clocks. Over-volting is a common practice to cover over none efficient chips so this is not a great thing.

You may end up with a good set that just missed the PC3-12800 spec and may over-clock and be fantastic. On the other hand it may involve sending them back more than once to get a good set. Suppose for most the extra £13 on a branded set from kingston may be worth the extra.
#15
Agharta
zaphodbb
Agharta, you always vote cold, that's why you haven't posted any deals lately.

And how exactly are those two things related?
Here’s why I haven’t posted any deals directly recently – One & Two.


Hey, I missed your corrections :D

Here're mine: Those links are the same and I have no trouble with my mobile broadband.

If I missed the name out of the title it would've got just as cold now people have had their eye's opened to this brand through previous hot deals. Should've read up more. :( Given the price and the size it seemed a good deal (20% off next cheapest), having searched harder I think I can find better alternatives from more trusted brands at a small (15%) premium (in more pallatable sizes).

GAVINLEWISHUKD
As stated above it's aimed at a limited market.


Have you seen the amount of graphics card heat on here lately?

GAVINLEWISHUKD
You may end up with a good set that just missed the PC3-12800 spec and may over-clock and be fantastic. On the other hand it may involve sending them back more than once to get a good set. Suppose for most the extra £13 on a branded set from kingston may be worth the extra.


PC3 is a wonderful thing, 45nm Wolfdales can only just accept this at its lowest speed enabling huge power to be had by undervolting/clocking bringing them up to 32nm levels of efficiency :D

Edited By: zaphodbb on May 02, 2011 17:15
#16
GAVINLEWISHUKD
You may end up with a good set that just missed the PC3-12800 spec and may over-clock and be fantastic. On the other hand it may involve sending them back more than once to get a good set. Suppose for most the extra £13 on a branded set from kingston may be worth the extra.

Agreed as life’s too short to chase deals on RAM that isn’t from a top tier manufacturer. Been there done that and ended up wasting more time than money saved.
I’d pay the extra £11 for Corsair 1600MHz from Crescent Electronics.
#17
Agharta
GAVINLEWISHUKD
You may end up with a good set that just missed the PC3-12800 spec and may over-clock and be fantastic. On the other hand it may involve sending them back more than once to get a good set. Suppose for most the extra £13 on a branded set from kingston may be worth the extra.

Agreed as life’s too short to chase deals on RAM that isn’t from a top tier manufacturer. Been there done that and ended up wasting more time than money saved.
I’d pay the extra £11 for Corsair 1600MHz from Crescent Electronics.


Exactly and I expect the new standard for DDR3 to move from 1333Mhz to 1866Mhz soon anyway as for Llano it will be the required spec and no doubt will be what gets pushed for BD and IB too.

My next build to replace my day to day desktop will inevitably be Llano based I'm just hoping the price of 1866MHz DDR3 drops in price before launch. Then I can finally say my farewells to socket 775 and the momentous times we have had! :)
#18
Agharta
GAVINLEWISHUKD
You may end up with a good set that just missed the PC3-12800 spec and may over-clock and be fantastic. On the other hand it may involve sending them back more than once to get a good set. Suppose for most the extra £13 on a branded set from kingston may be worth the extra.

Agreed as life’s too short to chase deals on RAM that isn’t from a top tier manufacturer. Been there done that and ended up wasting more time than money saved.
I’d pay the extra £11 for Corsair 1600MHz from Crescent Electronics.


Totally agree, worth paying more for something that won't require lengthy and repeated testing. I still haven't deliberately tripped into Win 7's memory checker- I have crash into it somehow, what with memtest incompatible with my memory map.

OTH, people will bay 66%+ of new price for second hand RAM on eBay, often by unscrupulous vendors who, I suppose, don't expect punters to competently test it.

GAVINLEWISHUKD, what are BD and IB? I doubt I could google two letters... Llano, now how would I pronounce that? Can't we say Ivybridge? Ah, got the IB, right? Blu-RayRW ~ BD?
#19
BD = Bulldozer!
#20
zaphodbb
Agharta
GAVINLEWISHUKD
You may end up with a good set that just missed the PC3-12800 spec and may over-clock and be fantastic. On the other hand it may involve sending them back more than once to get a good set. Suppose for most the extra £13 on a branded set from kingston may be worth the extra.

Agreed as life’s too short to chase deals on RAM that isn’t from a top tier manufacturer. Been there done that and ended up wasting more time than money saved.
I’d pay the extra £11 for Corsair 1600MHz from Crescent Electronics.


Totally agree, worth paying more for something that won't require lengthy and repeated testing. I still haven't deliberately tripped into Win 7's memory checker- I have crash into it somehow, what with memtest incompatible with my memory map.

OTH, people will bay 66%+ of new price for second hand RAM on eBay, often by unscrupulous vendors who, I suppose, don't expect punters to competently test it.

GAVINLEWISHUKD, what are BD and IB? I doubt I could google two letters... Llano, now how would I pronounce that? Can't we say Ivybridge? Ah, got the IB, right? Blu-RayRW ~ BD?


Yes sorry I suppose not being a tech site I should use full names but worked one out for yourself and with help from our good tech friend Agharta you have your answer to the other.

Llano is pronounced "la-no". Where the name comes from it is a place in Texas which AMD has always had close workings with (Texas). Why the town of Llano was chosen I have no idea but I'm sure a story will pop up nearer it's launch. :)
#21
Cheers Gav, show s what I know , thought llano was Intel's.

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