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This is my first deal on here, so pleae be gentle with me, lol.

Actually not knowing enough about PCs & laptops, I don't know whether this is such a good deal or not, so I would appreciate the advice of others. Argos were previously selling it for the RRP of £399 (although I note that they have previously had it on offer for £380).

Thoughts?

Following info direct from Argos:

Sturdy and affordable, the Lenovo G700 6GB 1TB Laptop is a fabulously functional choice. With a 17.3" screen size you can enjoy your favourite movies in quality HD viewing with the DVD drive, boasting a Dolby sound system too. With Windows 8 operation, the fun, practical Lenovo G700 is the one for you.

CPU, Memory and Operating System:

Intel® Pentium G2020 dual core processor.
2.4GHz processor speed.
6GB RAM.
1000GB SATA hard drive.
Microsoft Windows 8.

Display features:

17.3 inch screen.
High definition display.
Resolution 1600 x 900 pixels.

DVD optical drives:

DVD+RW/DVD-RW (read/write).

Graphics:

Shared graphics card.

Interfaces and connectivity:

Memory Stick (MS), Memory Stick Pro (MS-Pro), Multi-Media Card (MMC) compatible.
2 USB 2.0 ports.
1 USB 3.0 port.
1 Ethernet port.
1 HDMI port.
Bluetooth.
Wi-Fi enabled.

Multimedia features:

HD webcam.
Built-in mic.
Dolby sound system.

General features:

Up to 5 hours battery life.
Size H27.8, W41.8, D3.68cm.
Weight 2.9kg.
EAN: 0888228292380.
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1 Like #1
17" laptops getting cheaper. You could get the same with better CPU from Dell for £250 refurb or £279 new. Just go to Dell and choose 17" screen size.

Edited By: pet2000 on Jul 28, 2014 16:15
4 Likes #2
Would agree with first comment, the processor lets it down . You really should have at least an I3 for that sort of money ,preferably an I5
1 Like #3
Why are there still processors like Celerons and dual core pentiums out there? Surely everything should be at least i3 these days?
#4
Thanks for the comments. I am very tempted by one of the refurbished Dells, but then read "Estimated delivery time is approximately 7 working days from Order Credit Clearance". i realise I've probably been spoilt by other companies, but are they being overly pessimistic about delivery times? I was hoping to get a replacement laptop by weekend...
#5
Just going to check delivery times for ordering new items now...
#6
Hmmm - looks like I might be ordering new. Faster shipping - "customer delivery will generally be within 4 days of shipment". Fingers crossed that includes a Saturday if it doesn't get there by Friday.
2 Likes #7
Really low spec processor, IMO I would avoid
3 Likes #8
mccririck
Why are there still processors like Celerons and dual core pentiums out there? Surely everything should be at least i3 these days?

It's only branding. i3 is the middle speed band. If you took away the lower ones then it could hardly remain in the middle. All the chips use the same fundamental design (Haswell), the various categories are only tweaks to make them faster or slower. (except chips with a letter at the start of their model number like N2820 or J1900, they're Silvermont).

Given that the CPU details are obviously wrong (the G2020 is a desktop pentium that runs at 2.9Ghz) and we don't know what chip it has I'm not sure how people can confidently assert that it's no good (if it was genuinely a G2020 it would be a fast chip, probably with a good advantage in terms of raw power over the i3-4000U chips).
2 Likes #9
mccririck
Why are there still processors like Celerons and dual core pentiums out there? Surely everything should be at least i3 these days?

It's just marketing, essential the G2020 is a crippled i3. Intel kept the Celeron/Pentium names going. Look at it this way, is a 2014 Mondeo significantly better than a 1993 Mondeo? Of course it is, there's no relation anymore.Ford kept the name going because the brand is recognisd. However Celerons were known for crap performance, which isn't the case anymore. It's the same with these CPUs they're using a totally different architecture to Celerons of the past. Intel have also confused the issue by using the Celeron name for even lesser powered Baytrail based CPUs. So now you have Celerons on different architectures. Anyway what matters is that they all do the general workload just fine which is browsing, social media, video playback.
#10
kevinbrook13
Really low spec processor, IMO I would avoid

Misinformation

What do you know really about this CPU? Give us the source of your information so that it can be reasoned with.

Did you know that this dual core CPU is in fact not far off the performance of a Q6600 quad core, which still more than copes with not just a light workload but heavier workloads too. Don't forget most people are just browsing and doing office related tasks on laptops.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+G2020+%40+2.90GHz



Edited By: fishmaster on Aug 18, 2014 09:59
#11
I'll take a pentium and 1600x900 over an i5 with 1366x768 any day
#12
fishmaster
kevinbrook13
Really low spec processor, IMO I would avoid

Misinformation

What do you know really about this CPU? Give us the source of your information so that it can be reasoned with.

Did you know that this dual core CPU is in fact not far off the performance of a Q6600 quad core, which still more than copes with not just a light workload but heavier workloads too. Don't forget most people are just browsing and doing office related tasks on laptops.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+G2020+%40+2.90GHz



One thing is certain, this laptop does not have a Pentium G2020 processor - the description is wrong.

It has a Pentium 2020M processor. It runs at 2.4GHz - higher than many Core i5's. For example, it comes around the same score as Core i5-2537M in many benchmarks (that is a much more capable processor in terms of features, and has twice as many cores, but only runs at 1.40GHz). Because the Pentium has to run at a higher GHz to reach the same performance, it uses more power the the Core i5 and the battery won't last as long. But the speed will be absolutely fine.
2 Likes #13
wotcha7 is absolutely right - was just going to chip in with this info myself. It's well worth considering when the chip was in production when trying to assess whether you are getting plenty of bangs for your buck. The branding issue Pentium v. i3/5 etc is a bit of a smoke screen. The Pentium, contrary to what you might think is a recent chip - came out last year I think, and uses 22nm architecture based on ivybridge. Many i3 chips for instance the M 370 (at 2.4 GHZ) came out back in 2010 and - despite the strongly pushed "i" branding - are slower than their Pentium cousins. The Pentium 2020M gets 2316 compared to the M 370's 2038 on CPU Mark tests. The performance gap is even more marked on single core operation.
What Intel's marketing aims are amongst this sorry mess is anyone's guess! Maybe they are just trying to confuse the hell out of us!!
#14
fishmaster

Misinformation

Did you know that this dual core CPU is in fact not far off the performance of a Q6600 quad core

I seems that you're the one spreading misinformation.

The Q6600 is a 7 year old processor, quad core or not this is not a reasonable benchmark to aim for. Regardless, the Q6600 is 30% faster that the CPU in this laptop (which is NOT the G2020 as you stated, but rather the 2020M).

Anybody still running a Q6600 will surely be considering an upgrade at this stage, and this is without delving into the performance degradation that laptops so regularly suffer from. If you don't regret this purchase instantly, you certainly will 6-12 months down the line.
#15
omeganut

What Intel's marketing aims are amongst this sorry mess is anyone's guess! Maybe they are just trying to confuse the hell out of us!!

Intel want to keep the Pentium brand alive because it was their first brand. Intel started naming their processor lines when it was ruled that strings of numbers (such as the 80486 which preceded Pentium) could not be trademarked.

Intel hasn't killed Pentium off because it still holds sentimental value to many of the executives. besides, it's not doing any harm as a low end brand.

The 2020M is more comparable to the i3-390M, which has almost the same benchmark results, but is 2 years older. Pentiums and i3s may overlap slightly on performance, but pentium is always less power-efficient and has fewer features than an i3 of the same generation.
#16
Not a bad deal. Thanks OP. This is also on the Argos ebay outlet refurbished for £311 (free delivery) & also (oddly) £299 (£3.95 delivery).

Edited By: Garagorn on Aug 18, 2014 12:56: .
#17
nice deal, personaly dont like 17" laptops but I think this spec is quite good for the money
#18
at £250 would have been a good deal
#19
Expensive for a pentium processor. You can do better my friend, so look elsewhere.

For that price you should be looking for 8gb RAM 1TB drive and an I3 or I5 processor
#20
Anyone know a good laptop for the £400 range for gaming? 15.6 inch screen
#21
Deimos


Intel hasn't killed Pentium off because it still holds sentimental value to many of the executives. .

Ahhh, the Pentium III powered IBM Thinkpad, the finest laptop of all time, (given patience); & Made in Scotland.... Tis bin but a downhill excursion ever since :(
#22
daros
Expensive for a pentium processor. You can do better my friend, so look elsewhere.

For that price you should be looking for 8gb RAM 1TB drive and an I3 or I5 processor

Feel free to post some links, as without them your post is a bit meaningless.
#23
thegamingkinginfo
Anyone know a good laptop for the £400 range for gaming? 15.6 inch screen
lol, add another £1000 and you can get a non too bad system
1 Like #24
Deimos
fishmaster

Misinformation

Did you know that this dual core CPU is in fact not far off the performance of a Q6600 quad core

I seems that you're the one spreading misinformation.

The Q6600 is a 7 year old processor, quad core or not this is not a reasonable benchmark to aim for. Regardless, the Q6600 is 30% faster that the CPU in this laptop (which is NOT the G2020 as you stated, but rather the 2020M).

Anybody still running a Q6600 will surely be considering an upgrade at this stage, and this is without delving into the performance degradation that laptops so regularly suffer from. If you don't regret this purchase instantly, you certainly will 6-12 months down the line.

I know it's 7 years old, that's exactly the point! CPU performance has been more than good enough for years.

A Q6600 is a desktop part. I run an R9 270 GPU with it and it runs every game out there. The 2020M is more than good enough and I mean more than good enough for the average user.

http://ark.intel.com/products/71142/Intel-Pentium-Processor-2020M-2M-Cache-2_40-GHz



Edited By: fishmaster on Aug 19, 2014 20:57: <>
#25
fishmaster
I run an R9 270 GPU with it and it runs every game out there

No ****! You pair it with a top of the line GPU and get good graphics performance. Very few games are CPU intensive, that's why nobody recommends high-end CPUs for gaming PCs. I don't understand why you think it's reasonable to praise the performance of a CPU that can barely match the performance of a 7 year old processor.


I have a laptop that benchmarks the same as the one posted in this deal, and it cost me less that this deal when I bought it 3 years ago. It doesn't perform well at all, you conveniently ignored my comment of the difference between degradation of a laptop part compared to a desktop part, a few years of use will knock a laptop CPU to hell.

If the Q6600 is enough for you then congrats, you must have lower standards than most.


Edited By: Deimos on Aug 24, 2014 01:17: formatting
#26
Deimos
fishmaster
I run an R9 270 GPU with it and it runs every game out there

No ****! You pair it with a top of the line GPU and get good graphics performance. Very few games are CPU intensive, that's why nobody recommends high-end CPUs for gaming PCs. I don't understand why you think it's reasonable to praise the performance of a CPU that can barely match the performance of a 7 year old processor.


I have a laptop that benchmarks the same as the one posted in this deal, and it cost me less that this deal when I bought it 3 years ago[i]. It doesn't perform well at all, you conveniently ignored my comment of the difference between degradation of a laptop part compared to a desktop part, a few years of use will knock a laptop CPU to hell.

If the Q6600 is enough for you then congrats, you must have lower standards than most.

Q6600 performance in any laptop currently will do everything a general user requires. I sell these things, I know what people use them for, if you know you're gaming or doing AutoCAD Lightwave, audio production, video processing then go for a better CPU, otherwise I guarantee you don't need the CPU power.

I'm honest so if someone comes to me and says I want an i5, I ask them why, they usually say because I saw it on the TV in PC World and you get an i5 and 8GB ram, then you find out they want to use it for Facebook and web browsing.

Anyway I won't debate this anymore, I'm not changing my position on this and that's final, no point clogging up the thread with the same old same old.
#27
Pentium... The other specs are good but without a decent cpu it's pointless.

As daros said for this price you looking at i3 and i5's.

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