Lenovo ThinkPad R61i 15'' - Pentium Dual Core T2310 - 1 GB - HDD 160 GB - DVD-Writer - GMA X3100 BT Vista Business £299 delivered@ebuyer - HotUKDeals
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2.8kg of outstanding quality from Lenovo

ThinkPad R61i
(15 - inch XGA (1024 x 768) - NOT widescreen
Bluetooth wireless technology,
Intel Pentium Dual Core Processor T2310 (2 x 1.46ghz ,Merom core )
Mobile Intel GM965 Express Chipset,
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100,
160GB / 5400rpm,
1GB,
Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG,
Trusted Platform Module (TPM) Security Chip
S-Video, PC Card/ PCIe, Modem,
6 cell battery, Run Time (Up To) 5 hour(s)
IEEE 1394,
Multiburner,
Microsoft Windows Vista Business 32 (free downgrade to Windows XP !!!)
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#1
IBM, dual core processor, bluetooth,160gb, 8011g, 6 cell battery, Windows XP ... this is a great deal. Knocks all the normal Acer/Dell/Compaq cheapo cr*p for six, this is quality !!!!!

HOT deal ........
1 Like #2
Hot Deal :)
#3
This is a good deal, too late for me though. Hot.
#4
Is this model End of Line? I can't find it listed on the Lenovo website.

There are some proper pictures of it here:
http://www.thinklenovo.co.uk/Lenovo_Thinkpad_R61i_T2310_UV1DSUK/version.asp

The vista buisness downgrade rights are provided by microsoft not ebuyer/lenovo so you may pay for postage if you don't have a windows XP CD and you will have to install it yourself.

The resolution may be a bit on the low side for some people but it's the same as you'd expect from a 15" desktop monitor so this may be a good choice for anyone that doesn't have the best eyesight.
#5
Not a bad deal if you don't mind the 4:3 screen, although now that I'm used to 16:10 on desktops and laptops I can't go back!!
#6
Looks really nice, heat has been added :-) xx
#7
A very solid and reliable machine, but quite dated in design it looks identical to my 41/2 year old R50e
#8
SPARTAN086 Mike;2897010
Not a bad deal if you don't mind the 4:3 screen, although now that I'm used to 16:10 on desktops and laptops I can't go back!!


I'd be more concerned about the resolution, it's very poor for a 15" laptop screen. I have a Dell D600 (14") and Toshiba M200 tablet (12") and both are 1400x1050 resolution -- much more screen real estate than this laptop! Looks good other than that though.

Personally I much prefer 4:3 on computers. Widescreen is fine if you're watching movies, but often doing productive work you often need vertical space just as much as horizontal -- e.g. coding, reading web pages etc. 4:3 is even more of a boon on the desktop as it's cheap to have dual displays now. I have two 20" 4:3 screens for a combined resolution of 3200x1200 :-D.
#9
1GB of RAM and a poor screen resolution? No thanks.

If you don't have much to spend, don't try to buy a poor-mans Ferrari - get a Hyundai (or in this case something like an Advent K1501)
#10
Very unhappy with the service I got from Lenovo (and it's promotional partners) when I bought a Lenovo n200 from ebuyer earlier in the year - in the end I sent it back for a full refund.

If you have any support issues with the hardware (keep in mind I'm highly technically minded) you're left floundering posting on their naff support pages/forums.

Don't ever be fooled into thinking this is IBM - it's a cheapo Chinese company through and through.
#11
Very low resolution, rendering this laptop almost worthless as you can't upgrade it. It's cheap, but personally I'd have one with a much better monitor.
#12
tef89
Very unhappy with the service I got from Lenovo (and it's promotional partners) when I bought a Lenovo n200 from ebuyer earlier in the year - in the end I sent it back for a full refund.

If you have any support issues with the hardware (keep in mind I'm highly technically minded) you're left floundering posting on their naff support pages/forums.

Don't ever be fooled into thinking this is IBM - it's a cheapo Chinese company through and through.

I've used their machines for ages. Any calls to support have been resolved to my satisfaction.

What does being Chinese have to do anything with their quality or their attitude?
#13
Just bought that HP laptop for £289 yesterday!
#14
EndlessWaves
Is this model End of Line? I can't find it listed on the Lenovo website.
No but it is in it's EOL cycle- you'll find a glut of offers coming up over the next 6 weeks as OEMs try and move the non Montevina based products out of dsitribution.
Paul_M
I'd be more concerned about the resolution, it's very poor for a 15" laptop screen. I have a Dell D600 (14") and Toshiba M200 tablet (12") and both are 1400x1050 resolution -- much more screen real estate than this laptop! Looks good other than that though.
REasonable point but surely the D600 and definitely the tablet were not £299 so it aint really ana pples for apples comparison - a common issue for heAds of purchasing in mutil national corporations when we deal with them so I suppose not too unexpected here

tef89
Don't ever be fooled into thinking this is IBM - it's a cheapo Chinese company through and through.
You've been unfortunate for sure but Dell, HP, Lenovo, Tosh etc etc etc - they are all far east ODM/OEM models. It aint unique to Lenovo
#15
If u prefer laptop for Business purpose, there is nothing to compete with Lenovo (IBM) Thinkpad series.. although R61 is base model.

Voted hot for this price..
#16
bwarb
IBM, dual core processor, bluetooth,160gb, 8011g, 6 cell battery, Windows XP ... this is a great deal. Knocks all the normal Acer/Dell/Compaq cheapo cr*p for six, this is quality !!!!!


Not quite sure how you work that one out. This does not blow the recent Vostro 1510 deal out, far from it. :roll:

And only a 1.4 processor....... :w00t:
#17
BeerGoggles
Not quite sure how you work that one out. This does not blow the recent Vostro 1510 deal out, far from it. :roll:

And only a 1.4 processor....... :w00t:


Although Skoda is IMO a good car, do not compare it to Mercedes (even if it's and older model), please. This is Lenovo [email protected] and the mentioned Vostro (currently unavailable in this price range) is not XPS

I have remembered a few your previous posts.You have fallen in love with Vostro 1510, have not you?
#18
7777777
Although Skoda is IMO a good car, do not compare it to Mercedes (even if it's and older model), please. This is Lenovo [email protected] and the mentioned Vostro (currently unavailable in this price range) is not XPS

I have remembered a few your previous posts.You have fallen in love with Vostro 1510, have not you?

spot on. the build quality of these machines is phenomenal. I'm typing this on a 5 year old lenovo (IBM) used for work everyday, lots of weekends and has traveled all over the country, taken too many drops to remember.

any problems? No.
#19
BeerGoggles
Not quite sure how you work that one out. This does not blow the recent Vostro 1510 deal out, far from it. :roll:

And only a 1.4 processor....... :w00t:


If you mean this one that isn't avaialble then it's a pointless comparison as they are two wholly different platforms aimed at different users

The dell has a better processor and only 10/.100 LAN with a bespoke Dell mini PCI wireless card but the lenovo has gigabit LAN, TPM, Bluetooth and Intel wireless. It don't make one better over the other but it does make them wholly different
#20
alchemistkevin
... the build quality of these machines is phenomenal ...


TBH recent Lenovo budget models no longer have the same buid quality as the older models. Saw an R61 in the flesh in a local computer shop (Miller Computing) and was less than inpressed with the quality of plastics used on the unit - screen flexed too easily, and hinges looked ill fitted! And they were charging a ridiculous price of £570 or so!

Have a look at http://www.pcpro.co.uk/labs/175557/lenovo-thinkpad-r61i.html for a recent review of an R61i.

With these provisos in mind and the fact that this is possibly the last of the 4:3 15" laptops around - £299 is not bad - especially if your eyes don't like squinting at squashed widescreen high resolution displays - not everyone is comfortable with such displays.

But lets not go overboard with the IBM build quality - this is a budget laptop built to a price and is not comparible to IBM/Lenovos of old!
#21
The one thing I liked about the Thinkpads when I had my T42 was the abundance of spare parts available. I bought my T42 second hand but had no problem sourcing a brand new keyboard, monitor bezel/cover and even a base cover, pretty much making the laptop looking brand new again. It was also pretty straightforward to swap everything around aswell.

I haven't had much experience with the R series, but alot of the component parts are interchangeable with the T series (keyboard, etc).
#22
EndlessWaves
... The vista buisness downgrade rights are provided by microsoft not ebuyer/lenovo so you may pay for postage if you don't have a windows XP CD ...


I believe these units do not ship with the XP CD and Lenovo will charge you £40 for one!

If you're relying on running XP on this laptop - the deal may not be so sweet after all!
#23
grumpyone
I believe these units do not ship with the XP CD and Lenovo will charge you £40 for one!

If you're relying on running XP on this laptop - the deal may not be so sweet after all!


May not or may...

I am not sure whether Dabs had the same offer but they had these laptops with XP disk included...
#24
7777777
May not or may...

I am not sure whether Dabs had the same offer but they had these laptops with XP disk included...


If Ebuyer had included that wording then there would be no doubt - as it's Ebuyer there is no way to get an authoritative answer (have you ever tried to get a pre-sales query answered by Ebuyer? - if you have - you'll know what I mean!)

These must be a last batch from the distributer Ingram - so anything could be possible.

With no mention of XP in the product description - it was a mite presumptuous of you to suggest otherwise!
#25
grumpyone
TBH recent Lenovo budget models no longer have the same buid quality as the older models. Saw an R61 in the flesh in a local computer shop (Miller Computing) and was less than inpressed with the quality of plastics used on the unit - screen flexed too easily, and hinges looked ill fitted! And they were charging a ridiculous price of £570 or so!

Have a look at http://www.pcpro.co.uk/labs/175557/lenovo-thinkpad-r61i.html for a recent review of an R61i.

With these provisos in mind and the fact that this is possibly the last of the 4:3 15" laptops around - £299 is not bad - especially if your eyes don't like squinting at squashed widescreen high resolution displays - not everyone is comfortable with such displays.

But lets not go overboard with the IBM build quality - this is a budget laptop built to a price and is not comparible to IBM/Lenovos of old!

:) a very fair post and partly agree. I've owned and used lots of IBM machines, storage systems, 6 figure servers and 7 figure landscapes and the absolutely ONLY IBM system I abhor is the R series, it just doesn't belong to IBM.
#26
stephenc
If you mean this one that isn't avaialble then it's a pointless comparison as they are two wholly different platforms aimed at different users

The dell has a better processor and only 10/.100 LAN with a bespoke Dell mini PCI wireless card but the lenovo has gigabit LAN, TPM, Bluetooth and Intel wireless. It don't make one better over the other but it does make them wholly different


VERY DIFFERENT? This is not a wholly diffent platform it is a basic laptop computer with minor differences. And I must add I am not a dell lover, I just apprecuiate their price schemes like most people. I am not rubbishing this deal it is good for the money.
#27
hot! good price for lenevo laptop
#28
BeerGoggles
VERY DIFFERENT? This is not a wholly diffent platform it is a basic laptop computer with minor differences. And I must add I am not a dell lover, I just apprecuiate their price schemes like most people. I am not rubbishing this deal it is good for the money.

hey that's fine with me :thumbsup:

we'll agree to disagree on the platform but we are not talking apples is apples no matter what way you cut it.

the world of commodity consumer and commodity corproate PC products is a strange one and, since i've lived there for nigh on 15 years and saw 3 of the big fours finanical modelling first hand, i wouldn't say one is better than the other at prcing. It's a timing thing.

right now Dell have taken a doing in the corporate segment, have made a u-turn to embrace the channel and also made a decision to move into retail - they are, according to Mr Dell himself, going after consumer with gusto - all this adds up to mean you can expect mental consumer pricing from Dell just now.

However, in the corporate space (for 2k units and above), and where this model sits, it's Lenovo who are winning. In fact PSG Volume Direct from HP seems to be beating Dell to 2nd. That doesn't mean Dell can't fight if they want to, it's just means, currently, they don't want to in the corp sapce.
#29
Thers no mention of the free downgrade to Windows XP on the site. Can anyone tell me how this is arranged?
1 Like #30
mudddy
Thers no mention of the free downgrade to Windows XP on the site. Can anyone tell me how this is arranged?


If there is no XP CD shipped with the unit as implied by the absence of any such wording on the Ebuyer site - then according to Lenovo, you may call their UK service centre and ask for one - I believe the media will cost you £40!

You are then on your own as far as installing the XP OS - although there is loads of help on the Lenovo forums.

The link below, however, suggests you can downgrade without paying any extra fee to anyone - provided you have access to a legitimate XP install CD - say from another PC or laptop ...

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/08/22/how-to-downgrade-from-windows-vista-business-or-ultimate-oem-edition-and-install-windows-xp-professional-without-extra-charge/

Paying Lenovo £40 for the privilege of downgrading from Vista to XP on a laptop that only costs £299 - is ridiculous!
#31
hmm Lenovo... as a Chinese myself...I never had good experience with them back in China. I wonder how good they are here. I still feel it is quite lame that IBM sold it is PC business to Lenovo.

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