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Currently this is £1,100.79 on Amazon (reduced just now) but Lenovo's VAT back is still on Today (5th December - https://lenovo-offers.com/winter-vatback) so you can get the VAT off so hopefully (£917.32).

So what's good about it?

- Intel Broadwell (Gen 5 Core aka 'Core M') ~5W APU so 1/3 power of Haswell ULV (the only Broadwell out now)
- Very thin and very light, does not get better than this
- Better than Surface 3 if you're actually typing - can do it on your lap and get a proper backlit keyboard
- 13.3" 3200 x 1800 touchscren panel, but at 200% dpi it looks great to me
- 8GB DDR3L - 1600 dual channel (soldered)
- 256GB SSD
- GT2M GPU with 24CU (compute units) - 20% more than Haswell's GT2 (20 CU)
- IMHO looks great - but not to everyone's taste.
- Since Intel supports 2 generations with video driver, Broadwell will share a driver with Skylake while Haswell will be left in the cold - so likely no DirectX 12, OpenCL 2.0, etc.

What's bad about it?

- 5W APU not expected to match even 15W ULV compute power - Broadwell is not much faster than Haswell
- Can't upgrade memory, would not expect to change battery not likely to find one on the 'bay
- Screen is 'pentile' but due to the high resolution you should not see it unless you get really close.
- High DPI needed (200-250%) so some programs won't scale properly - but this affects any other laptop with high resolution (e.g. Dell XPS 15, Lenov Y70 4K, etc.)

Why is it worth it?

- Comparative 13" premium laptops are expensive - e.g.. Dell's XPS 13 (that I have) is about the same new (£1,100) and not the same quality
- Surface 3 + extra keyboard is also very expensive, more power but also hotter - and still a tablet + extra keyboard
- Toshiba, Apple, etc. are similarly expensive
- Makes more sense than a tablet + keyboard since the weight is in the base (keyboard) not the screen (tablet) - you can't change the laws of Physics (as Scotty in Star Trek can confirm) - the center of gravity of tablets+keyboard can never match a proper laptop

Sure it is a gamble from Lenovo using a really tablet APU (4.5-5W) in a 13.3" platform - but perhaps less crazy than Microsoft sticking a 15W laptop APU in a 10" tablet platform - I know which I'd choose!

It is not an Atom (BayTrail) or AMD Kabini - you do get the finest x86 CPU currently on the market - well, until Skylake blows it out of the water ;)

So there you have it - some of you may like it, some may hate it - but perhaps it is useful to somebody...
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Have the thinkpad yoga and love it! This looks like a great laptop for the size / weight. Love your thoughts on the pros & cons. Heat!!
#2
Heat from me, have the yoga 13 and this looks amazing.
#3
I have the thinkpad yoga too I7 version and apart from the ghosting issues its going back for is amazing....
#4
Isn't this the laptop that is having lots of overheating and throttling issues.....probably best to avoid for now
#5
Thing is it's still a laptop, I've always thought the appeal of the Surface Pro range was that it's a proper tablet style form factor but can also double up to do laptop tasks.
#6
Catman99
Isn't this the laptop that is having lots of overheating and throttling issues.....probably best to avoid for now

It is throttling as the TDP set is very low (4.5W) so it quickly runs out of thermal headroom + the time in Turbo (6W) is very low also (~30s). You can use a utility (like Intel's XTU) to increase both at expense of thermal/noise - as I do on my XPS 13.

I have not read any reports of overheating - it has a fan so dissipating 4.5W should not be an issue; but as with all laptops changing the thermal paste to something of good quality (AC5, etc.) should help - but you can always monitor core temp - I don't see in the reviews it going over 80C (PROCHOT being 100).
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lucifon
Thing is it's still a laptop, I've always thought the appeal of the Surface Pro range was that it's a proper tablet style form factor but can also double up to do laptop tasks.

I think it depends what you use your device primarily for - a laptop like this is best for primarily laptop tasks having a proper keyboard, hinge, etc. But it's a really thin and really light laptop.

If you primarily use touch / as a tablet - with occasional typing then Surface is great - but IMHO it's not as good for laptop tasks. I've got no problem if people prefer Surface, not for me.

I also think for 10-12" or really thin 13" platforms a 4.5-7.5W APU makes more sense than 15W used in Surface...

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