LG BH10LS30 Blu-Ray Rewriter (retail) £99.99 delivered @ cclonline - HotUKDeals
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Finally a blu ray burner for less than £100! Note that cclonline now offer free second class delivery, although you can pay an additional £5.99 for "next day" delivery if you are desperate.

# 10x BD-R Write Speed
# 16x DVD+/- Write Speed
# Serial ATA Technology
# BD/DVD/CD Read and Write
# LightScribe™ Disc Labeling

It says it is the retail version, so I imagine you will get some software with it too.

7 in stock right now, another 141 available to order.
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#1
HUKD playing up for me a bit - if link doesn't work go to http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?id=43719 .
1 Like #2
I'm pretty tech savey but I look at blu ray and think, Meh I can get a 2tb hard disk for 8o odd quid. What's the point of lugging round more discs when I can store everything on diwcm good deal though
#4
same price at amazon(_;)
#5
and dabs even play have them at 99.99
1 Like #6
I want to vote warm, I had CDR's back in the 90s, DVDs became super popular fast, but it gave me a dislike for removable discs generally.

Bluray has taken an age to launch, extortionate pricing for years, the discs are now cheaper per gig than some DVDRs blanks, however, it's too little too late.

80-90% of my data transfer to people is NOT via disc it's through magnetic drives on external devices or laptops.

Add the fact that x264/mp4/avc capable players are fast competing against each other, I'd rather invest in a Revo machine or WD Media Player and stream off disc than deal with cumbersome disc, sorry but I've massively fallen out of love with burning discs generally.
So sorry, cold from me.

Until this technology massively falls in price.

Edited By: schizoboy on Aug 01, 2010 05:42: meh
1 Like #7
Voted hot but be warned that IMHO This is gonna become so low in a year that many who bought are going to look back and say why?why did i invest so much?Sony learnt the lesson the hard way..by making bluray writers not easily accessible It assumed that people who genuinely want to backup their discs would be forced to buy new ones if its scratched etc but has had them rip into XVID ,MKV and with cheap players lugging around and poor adoption of blueray worldwide due to high initial costs..It has literally forced sony to open up its licensure for cheap bluray players and writers.
1 Like #8
Sony screwed up the PS3 introduction and have screwed up their potential dominance of HD, instead by the time Bluray is even a fraction of the market control DVD had/has homes will have far faster internet, 3-4terabyte+ drives will be the norm and big, cumbersome, slow discs will seem horrendously backward and by which time HDDs prices will be plummeting per gig.

As hotz said, give it 1 year maybe 2, these will be £25 or less.
#9
schizoboy
Sony screwed up the PS3 introduction and have screwed up their potential dominance of HD, instead by the time Bluray is even a fraction of the market control DVD had/has homes will have far faster internet, 3-4terabyte+ drives will be the norm and big, cumbersome, slow discs will seem horrendously backward and by which time HDDs prices will be plummeting per gig.

As hotz said, give it 1 year maybe 2, these will be £25 or less.

I totally agree with you.. primary laptops will switch to SSD and huge database of media on mechanical and proven drives would be preferred which keeps increasing in performance
#10
Fair price if thats what your after, and I can vouch for CCL being a good supplier; I have used them for over 15 years
suspended#11
voted cold, scan are charging £91.65 for the OEM version, cheaper than this even if you aren't eligible for free delivery.

Edited By: hajj_3 on Aug 01, 2010 10:57: .
1 Like #12
Cold for me. Pretty much same opinions as other guys on here, blu ray players/writers/discs has been overpriced for years and are only begining to fall to maybe a just above reasonable level. I still think price needs to be £50 for these writers before things kicks in on a high demand level, then price fall further on blanks and players at the same time.

I for one will only watch movies in at least dvd quality and have so far refused to get a bluray players for the last 2 years due to high prices, although now for £60 its reasonable. I will still will not get a blu ray writer until it falls to £50 and disc to about £1.20.
1 Like #13
Yeah, same here, won't be buying blu-ray writer until the price drops some more... learnt my lesson with dvd writers, bought one back in about 2002/3 for about £130 or thereabouts and approx a year or 2 later they were only about £40 and twice the speed too (can't remember the actual year, but definitely remember feeling shafted, lol)
And, like above people, have so many external HDDs and stream stuff too that discs are fast becoming obsolete anyway.
#14
Good price if you really want one, but they cost almost the same to make as a normal DVD writer. I think optical discs are becoming obsolete as the industry was too greedy so it will never take off. It is almost the laser-disc all over again. Streaming media and large cheap hard disc has usurped it. We already can see the fits computers being sold with no optical media drives.

Edited By: snapdragon on Aug 01, 2010 12:24: added words
#15
paddy.stone
Yeah, same here, won't be buying blu-ray writer until the price drops some more... learnt my lesson with dvd writers, bought one back in about 2002/3 for about £130 or thereabouts and approx a year or 2 later they were only about £40 and twice the speed too (can't remember the actual year, but definitely remember feeling shafted, lol)And, like above people, have so many external HDDs and stream stuff too that discs are fast becoming obsolete anyway.

Ditto but I paid £265 for my 1st cd writer and £170 for my 1st dvd writer. Not going to make the same mistake with blu-ray especially as the media is still expensive.
#16
I have seen this cheaper elswhere
#17
Technology may have advanced to High-Definition, but will cost an arm, a leg & a kidney. Personally i can't justify buying a a Blu-Ray player for £60-£300 just to watch a film & additionally pay £15-£20 for a film to collect dust (like most of my DVD's).

DIVX, XVID & MKV is the way to go, storage consumables are on their way out (unless your an avid photographer or video editor that distributes content this way)

It won't be long before film distributors release new films as 'ONLY AVAILABLE ON BLU-RAY' (a bit like how Microsoft & Sony have done so with game titles), but that still won't get most people to fork out for a new Blu-ray player, which will cost the film industry millions in lost revenue

ps if anyone still has a VHS player, PCWorld are still selling blank tapes......link & only £2.19 each (when you buy 5). not sure if free del is included though
#18
Files tend to disappear on hard drives - this would be ok for back up of important stuff like photos.
#19
gttdi5
I have seen this cheaper elswhere

How very informative!
1 Like #20
I'm not buying any more drives until they have invented the quantum physical drive and it's down in price to £25!!
#21
I'm not buying any more drives until they have invented the quantum physical drive and it's down in price to £25!!



+1:D
#22
Lots of fountains of misinformation on here as usual - DVD didn't have to compete with high speed downloading of movies of equal quality picture and the quality jump from VHS was enough for us to jump on the DVD bandwagon. And with the rise of illegal downloads, all media is struggling and unfortunately everyone is trying to claw money back by charging up to £25 for movies.

I wouldn't buy a blu ray burner until hardware and media are much cheaper, I have multiple portable drives like you guys. I'm awaiting the token 'upscaled DVD picture quality is just as good as blu ray'
#23
live2giveuk
I'm pretty tech savey but I look at blu ray and think, Meh I can get a 2tb hard disk for 8o odd quid. What's the point of lugging round more discs when I can store everything on diwcm good deal though

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I mean you can pick up a net top for around £140, add a cheapo NAS (or a decent one if you can afford it with 4 bays) for a couple of hundred. then a couple of 2TB drives...All in your talking, what £450-£500.

You'll have something that can download from Usenet\Torrents while your asleep and HD movies on tap. With all the money you're likely to spend on discs with this burner + bluray player you might as well not bother.

Bluray writers are still expensive because nobody is buying them, they've been around the £120 mark for a couple of years. At this point in time they should be down to something like £45-£50 which is where DVD writers were this long after release of the initial players.


edit - for the record I used to own a bluray writer\player and copy all my rented blurays...just not worth it, cheap discs become unreadable after a few months and expensive discs....well I stick the middle finger up to them, the difference in price is so vast I'm not going to be a sucker any longer.

Edited By: robo989 on Aug 01, 2010 13:39: extra info
#24
£50 or cheaper and im in,

New Bluray films are around the same sort of price as new dvd's nowdays if you can be bothered to look around.

it sounds like the same old argument with vhs all over again, bluray image on large screen tvs is far sharper than dvd, upscale as much as you want, it isnt better.

i want to see films in the best format i can afford and at the moment, that is bluray.

the disk space makes clearing all photos onto 1 disk a good option, ideal rather than having to copy the albums on to 3 hard drives and keep several disks just incase something happens to the hard drives.
#25
Voted hot as it's a great price compared to others, but really, unless you desperately need to back 25Gb of data onto optical media there isn't much point. You just *know* that within five years you'll be able to get these things for a pittance, when the technology has matured.

Added to which, DVD has a lot of life left so far as software distribution is concerned, and if you're serious about watching HD movies, you'll have a home cinema to watch Blu-Rays on anyway.

Personally I think I'll wait until Quad-layer (100GB) BluRay writers come out, so I can backup my photos with ease!
#26
Pretty good deal when you compare parallel date prices with DVD-R burners.

Problem with Blu-ray is most people over 40 think it's a hair style and most people under 30 don't care. The rest is a small market which the HD pressed disc war has forever damaged.

I reckon Sony -stupidly- and their cohorts are quite happy to keep the prices relatively high (although as I said they aren't really) because they probably think Blu-ray burning = piracy. This will damage them all because it actually means "popular". Something DVD has and Blu-ray never really will have sadly. I buy Blu-ray movies all the time cos I want 1080p on a retail disc. There is no choice if you want retail products so hopefully -eventually- Bl-ray will catch on.

I ain't bought one of these burners yet (I have a couple of ROMs) as I'm in no rush thanks to other storage media but if you're in the market then I reckon this is a good one. Note though even the "bare" drives come with forever and ever and ever (and ever) annoying upgrades ie software which will never really work. Not really really. Unlike like DVD. PC/laptop Blu-ray is a **** faff.

Ho hum.
#27
robo989
You'll have something that can download from Usenet\Torrents while your asleep and HD movies on tap. With all the money you're likely to spend on discs with this burner + bluray player you might as well not bother.


I won't download movies on torrent, that's just about the only thing you'll get caught for.
#28
I'm looking for one so I can burn HD video from my camcorder and play it via my TV. Granted I can connect my laptop/media player and do it but I'd like to have menus, chapters etc. However this is still a bit expensive, plus the blank discs too.

Edited By: orgfilao on Aug 01, 2010 19:07: Edit
#29
montblanc
robo989
You'll have something that can download from Usenet\Torrents while your asleep and HD movies on tap. With all the money you're likely to spend on discs with this burner + bluray player you might as well not bother.
I won't download movies on torrent, that's just about the only thing you'll get caught for.
?? and hows that....
#30
technomouse
Files tend to disappear on hard drives - this would be ok for back up of important stuff like photos.


This is what I feel. Hard drives die far too easily, and the security of a physical backup on disc is vital for me. £1 (currently) for 25gb of storage is a good deal and could save my photos from inevitable hard drive failure even if I have duplicats on disk.
#31
technomouse
Files tend to disappear on hard drives

I have several hard drives set aside with back-ups on them of various things.
They are IMHO bullet-proof (hard drives are so much more reliable than they once were anyways).

The key is you have to remember to connect & power them up ever 6 - 9mths.
Do that and you cannot go wrong in my experience.

(although if you forget and leave it too long you will start to lose data on them)

The tech geek in me wants a Blu-ray burner but the sane part of me just laughs and shrugs at the cost of the burners & the blank media.
What would I honestly use them for anyways?
If I want to check out a high def movie I download the .mkv and if I like it I buy the Blu-ray.

I think that for £/gb Blu-ray missed the boat long ago and hard drives are so much more convenient and less expensive.......and nowadays HD TVs, Blu-ray players and even DVDplayers with USB2 sockets for connecting a hard drive or a flash drive and the ability to play .mkv just makes Blu-ray less and less relevant for many.
#32
I have had 2 of my hard drives die simultaneously, another separately, and they occasionally go wrong at work. Hard drives have a life span, they are mechanical devices, and hopefully blu-ray discs will last a decade or 2 just sitting in a cupboard waiting to be needed.
#33
robo989
[quote=live2giveuk]You'll have something that can download from Usenet\Torrents while your asleep and HD movies on tap. With all the money you're likely to spend on discs with this burner + bluray player you might as well not bother.

But if everyone start doing that, then there'll be no more new movies to download as no one will make any due to lack of profitability.
#34
Gixxerman001:
The key is you have to remember to connect & power them up ever 6 - 9mths.
Do that and you cannot go wrong in my experience.


Could you elaborate on that?
#35
ought
technomouse
Files tend to disappear on hard drives - this would be ok for back up of important stuff like photos.

and could save my photos from inevitable hard drive failure even if I have duplicats on disk.


even then.. discs can get damaged, houses do get burgled, etc etc.

best form of storage for very important docs imo is online managed storage.. google docs, flickr.. I use a secure web hosting account that I've got an ftp mapped drive to..

ok you might have too pay a small annual subscription for larger storage.. but least your data is backed up regularly..
#36
A few months ago I said to myself that I would buy a Blu-Ray writer when they drop below £100, but now that the day has come I struggle to justify it. I have plenty of TV shows etc ripped onto hard drives, have a small home workgroup set up and PCs around the house file sharing to these files to play anywhere. Works for me!!

As for safety of data, I backed up alot of photos to DVD a few years back, and recently dug out these discs. The discs had become mouldy and unreadable, yes perhaps they were not in the ideal environment for storage but it does go to show that even disks are not foolproof. I concur with GR2 that managed external storage is the way forward for important files, and hard drives are the way forward for me.

When solid state drives come down in price, however...
#37
ought
I have had 2 of my hard drives die simultaneously, another separately, and they occasionally go wrong at work. Hard drives have a life span, they are mechanical devices, and hopefully blu-ray discs will last a decade or 2 just sitting in a cupboard waiting to be needed.

It's true hard drives do not last forever but I can honestly say that in my own family I've never known any of the 10 of us into computing have one go with the exception of my brothers one dying in almost 20yrs of computing.
None at work either (but then they changed them every 4 yrs religiously there).

Besides, I'd be very dubious about comparing the life-span of a burnt optical disc to a metallic retail movie/software one.
They are not the same & the disc dyes we use just do not last anything like as long.
Check out your old CDs & DVDs some of them (if they are around 10yrs old) will probably be unplayable.

xwoof
Could you elaborate on that?

Sure.
I put my spare hard drives in a caddy and connect them by USB.
(I like to keep the original copy of windows clean & safe and use a cloned copy so I always have a working copy in case of some horror happening)
Once connected they will be routinely scanned for any errors.
If you do it every 6mths - 9mths I have found nothing gets lost, if you leave it beyond that then bad sectors could be created & some of your data lost for good.

m.ad
now that the day has come I struggle to justify it

I hear you, I used to think I'd use them but tbh what I really want is a little home server with everything a/v in my home ripped to it and I just call up and select whatever from the library.
2tb drives are getting cheaper and cheaper and 4tb drives are on the way and will repeat that experience. Shortly after that I expect SSD's to be cheap and getting big enough to consider.
All ways around the huge cheap storage (even with a fully mirroring RAID safety system) is just around the corner.

(and another big bonus would be getting rid of all those damned boxes collecting dust and taking up room)


Edited By: Gixxerman001 on Aug 02, 2010 18:33: sp
Edited By: Gixxerman001 on Aug 02, 2010 18:34: sp
banned#38
great price

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