LG DRT389H DVD Recorder/Freeview (Grade A/As New) £69 delivered at Tier 1 Online - HotUKDeals
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For those of us who don't want to spend a fortune on HDD recorders (I have Virgin Media V+ for recording programmes, want this to save to DVD) - £69 delivered is a very good price I think for an 'as new' :-)

Do not buy from this company they will not even give you proper stock details and will swallow your money and sell to others if they are their friends.

if they see that customer is shock ed at price they will remove the product from website and put at higher price.

they will cut off calls if they have refunded without customers approval.

happened to me
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this is not a freesat
No I changed it
good find
Good find but -19 degrees. What a site this is.
What a site this is.

Yes, it has become a shop front for a second-hand shop :-(
Where does it say the deals have to be new things?
Where does it say the deals have to be new things?

It doesn't.
Unfortunately :-(
There's no sense it what you say. A deal is a deal irrespective of new or Grade A. When it becomes Hot UK Deals for New Stuff you'll be right.

Grade A allows people to get items that are in perfect condition which otherwise they may not be able to afford. Your view is rather pompous.
There's no sense it what you say. A deal is a deal irrespective of new or Grade A. When it becomes Hot UK Deals for New Stuff you'll be right.

Grade A allows people to get items that are in perfect condition which otherwise they may not be able to afford. Your view is rather pompous.

It's funny when you tell people why the junk they post is getting voted cold, it always comes down to personal attacks... then they wonder why cold voters won't say WHY they are voting it cold!

OK, I will go along with this for now... the "deal" is a duff one anyway, even taking into consideration how hopeless as the "heat" rating system is as a way to judge an item, enough are seeing it as poor enough to be cold, so it doesn't really justify as much effort as I am giving it, but if I am "pompous" then let me explain why these things are not the deal that a few people think they are.

First, if I am so pompous, then how does it explain why I have, and do buy second-hand goods?
They are not my first option though, as my experience of such things isn't good, and we are not talking about second-hand in terms of antique! eg. I have a "refurb" Humax PVR which isn't quite right (not something I would have ever bought second-hand, but was bought as a gift, and has been the source of much ill feeling - if you want to upset someone, buy them second-hand gifts, it is one of those more subtle ways to insult someone!). I bought a "graded" cooker with clear surface defects, but they are only visible when you remove it from between the kitchen units, and it came with an extended warranty from the manufacturer - I paid less than 40% of the full price though, and it was available 2 weeks sooner than the new item too.

Occasionally they do offer good value, but so far, I think the only items I have ever seen posted on these pages that have been remotely good value have been some Bissell vacuum cleaners in the 35% of full price range, with full warranty too. It is so rare as to be almost unique!

This "deal" is what?.... 30% off, ie 70% of full price.I can see it at £99.99 new, although not searched much so it might be cheaper. Not my idea of a good buy, even at first glance - save 30% for taking a second-hand one. Come to the details and it gets worse.... it is rated as not "grade A" (your posting) but they say "Grade 2" which is yet another of the many elaborate descriptions these things get labelled.... the main gist of that is, it only has a 90 day warranty anyway! 70% of the price for 25% of the warranty!

The right price is a big factor in whether it is any sort of "deal" the type of item is the other, and electronics are so fault prone anyway, I think I would be very rarely tempted to buy it unless very low priced. It is no different to something on eBay or from the local paper classifieds - I cold post "deals" every day of the week that would qualify as "deals" on here straight out of the evening paper, it is fundamentally no different. Pricing of most second-hand goods is inflated far beyond their real value, when it happens to be sold out of regular retail premises, purely because of the willingness of some to pay so close to the new price for what is undeniably substandard goods.

As for the item itself well, PVRs & similar are probably the most problematic pieces of kit there is... which explains why there are so many bodged ones available for sale - threads on here have shown how poor the standard is (even with Topfield & Humax who are far from immune from problems!)

All that is irrelevant though when posters mislead people on here - most manufacturers and retailers (with one or two exceptions) are reasonably up-front about the origin of their second-hand stuff, but the number of posters on here who sing the praises of old tat and totally try and hide the fact is nothing short of scandalous - if I believed everything I read on this site, I would be thinking that second-hand was BETTER than new, and as for being used, well, there are so many people sending back new unused goods at their own expense merely because they don't like the look of the packaging, and it's all perfect really! Not everyone is as cluey as I am, and the same claims some have made would not be legal if the retailers was saying the same things!

The use of euphemisms "graded" "refurb" and "As New" "repackaged" "restored" "Grade 2" and any number of other vague descriptions just has no place in the vocabulary of someone in the position of consumer as they are all marketing ploys intended to fool the gullible. The retailers recognise only too well the stigma associated with second-hand products so wouldn't want the words second-hand to be linked with their business either and use any other words they can to avoid that - as consumers I would suggest the real words are what we should be using.

Now that's far more than the effort this item warranted.

One for the mods - If it is second-hand, why not have a category for second-hand? It would certainly make it easier to scout through the real deals on here.
Oh, I forgot to mention... it was recently on sale (a few days ago) new at Play.com for the same price anyway, now that was a hot deal.
So you posted it?

I'm not reading your earlier post, it goes on a bit and I'm busy. Cheers though!

Posting useless posts like this, 6 weeks after the last post & the thread is long dead and forgotten is really useful.

For a TROLL :-(

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