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Blu-ray Disc and HD Dvd-rom drive
6x BD-R read speed
3x HD DVD read speed
16x DVD write speed
LightScribe
Highlights of the LG Electronics Blu-Ray/HD DVD-ROM COMBO 16x DVD+/-RW Retail BLK

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This is cheaper from Scan via today only if you get free delivery from Hexus forums (£65.21)
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#1
Just a note that the scan offer ends tommorow afternoon. Then it will be £67.83 which is still cheaper then eBuyer if you qualify from free delivery.
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Just a prompt that you MAY not get much value from HD playback (whether HD-DVD or Blu-Ray) drives like this UNLESS your video card and monitor support HDCP, ie the HD copy protection system. Not sure about LG but some brand's sites offer a utility to validate your PC's suitability to make sure before investing.
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mk-donald
Just a prompt that you MAY not get much value from HD playback (whether HD-DVD or Blu-Ray) drives like this UNLESS your video card and monitor support HDCP, ie the HD copy protection system. Not sure about LG but some brand's sites offer a utility to validate your PC's suitability to make sure before investing.


Good point. Cyberlink have an application that will adivse you if your pc is up to the job. Can download if for free here:

http://www.cyberlink.com/english/support/blu-ray_support/diagnosis.jsp
#4
mk-donald
Just a prompt that you MAY not get much value from HD playback (whether HD-DVD or Blu-Ray) drives like this UNLESS your video card and monitor support HDCP, ie the HD copy protection system.

Slysoft’s AnyDVD HD does overcome this issue although it is rather expensive: 60+ Euros. It also allows you to RIP HD films to hard drive which can be useful; an excellent piece of software.
#5
good deal voted hot
#6
good deal, i'm tempted to buy one at this price :thumbsup:
#7
If I ever buy a disk and find that I can't play it on my PC, then I'm just gunna stop buying HD disks and start downloading them.

Suggest everyone else does the same, then they'll be forced to remove stupid ideas like this.
#8
Daz CPFC
Good point. Cyberlink have an application that will adivse you if your pc is up to the job. Can download if for free here:

http://www.cyberlink.com/english/support/blu-ray_support/diagnosis.jsp


Tells me everything but software and of course my current disc drive is BD ready.
Doesn't check if my monitor is or not though, which is a Benq Q24W5 :x
#9
flashpanther
Tells me everything but software and of course my current disc drive is BD ready.
Doesn't check if my monitor is or not though, which is a Benq Q24W5 :x


Your monitor is HDCP compliant and consequently Blu Ray playback at its intended resolution is supported as long as your graphics card is HDCP compliant too, as mentioned earlier. Note, if you are using VGA connection to your monitor then you cannot play Blu Ray titles in their intended resolution (HDCP applies to a digital signal only - VGA is an analogue signal).
#10
radicalbyte
If I ever buy a disk and find that I can't play it on my PC, then I'm just gunna stop buying HD disks and start downloading them.

Suggest everyone else does the same, then they'll be forced to remove stupid ideas like this.


^ sounds fair [not being sarcastic] :)
#11
ElliottC
Your monitor is HDCP compliant and consequently Blu Ray playback at its intended resolution is supported as long as your graphics card is HDCP compliant too, as mentioned earlier. Note, if you are using VGA connection to your monitor then you cannot play Blu Ray titles in their intended resolution (HDCP applies to a digital signal only - VGA is an analogue signal).


Is that right, i think you can still play Blu-Ray, it just doesn't require HDCP, if you use DVI/HDMI then it has to be HDCP. I think it plays on both :?
#12
peodude
Is that right, i think you can still play Blu-Ray, it just doesn't require HDCP, if you use DVI/HDMI then it has to be HDCP. I think it plays on both :?


The existence of DVI/HDMI does not imply HDCP compliancy - in fact, DVI existed much earlier than when Intel delivered the HDCP specification. HD playback software such as PowerDVD 7.3 and Arcsoft's TotalMedia Theatre require both the graphics card and the display to be HDCP compliant. That is why Cyberlink offer the online check to determine if the system passes all the checks for HD playback. This is very annoying because non HDCP-encrypted discs still require HDCP compliancy from the software that plays back the content. When using VGA, the playback software reduces the resolution.

However, if you are playing HD DVD or Blu Ray through a standalone player connected to DVI or HDMI on your TV then whether you receive the full HD resolution or a downscaled resolution is dependent on whether the TV has HDCP and whether the disc being played contains HDCP encryption via an ICT tag. Without HDCP encryption (which is currently all HD DVDs and most Blu Ray discs) then the TV will display the content at its intended resolution but in future, Blu Ray discs will increasingly be making use of HDCP encryption, requiring HDCP compliancy on every device in the chain.
#13
Daz CPFC
Good point. Cyberlink have an application that will adivse you if your pc is up to the job. Can download if for free here:

http://www.cyberlink.com/english/support/blu-ray_support/diagnosis.jsp


only says blu ray im guessing it means all HD material inc HD DVD?
#14
Bully
only says blu ray im guessing it means all HD material inc HD DVD?



Cyberlinks's current PowerDVD software does not play HD DVD unfortunately. There is a third party patch available for download though. If your PC passes the Blu Ray tests then it will play HD DVD through the HD DVD patch for Cyberlink PowerDVD. Arcsoft's TotalMedia Theatre supports HD DVD indigenously, as does Nero Showtime.
#15
The software is poor to playback hd dvds/blu ray on your computer. Doesnt look much better than DVDs.
#16
empyphil
The software is poor to playback hd dvds/blu ray on your computer. Doesnt look much better than DVDs.

What resolution and size is your screen?
#17
These are heading towards DVDROM prices sooner rather than later I think - if you don't have an immediate need for it then no hurry.

Then again, can you rent a decent range of Blurays off lovefilm and so on yet?
#18
What is the software that is included is it powerdvd?
#19
Blu-ray has really come... Wow
#20


That's not the same deal, same item though.As input on your thread that's not the cheapest deal hence why I posted this one. That's the point of this site as far as I'm aware.
#21
muddyfox470
What is the software that is included is it powerdvd?


Mine came with an Power DVD 7.3 (build 2911). Problem with that is cyberlink have removed the updates to version 7.3 from their website so it can't be updated to the latest build.
#22
empyphil
The software is poor to playback hd dvds/blu ray on your computer. Doesnt look much better than DVDs.

That's only if you are watching on a standard computer monitor.

You really need to have something that is 26inchs or bigger, otherwise I agree you are probably better off sticking with normal DVDs.
#23
I have this drive and through an HD projector, throwing an image of about 72 inches, the picture looks massively better than regular DVD. Agree that AnyDVD is great if you need to overcome the needless obstacles of copy protection and region coding.
#24
perfectmark
That's only if you are watching on a standard computer monitor.

You really need to have something that is 26inchs or bigger, otherwise I agree you are probably better off sticking with normal DVDs.


it's not the size of your monitor ;)
It's the resolution that matters.
#25
I have tried it on a 38 inch Panasonic 720p
and a 19inch 1440 by 900 and 24 inch monitor. 1680 by 1050

Its really poor quality when compared to a real hd dvd player, there is a lot of fuzzyness when you look close.
I was very disapointed.
#26
Also a note its the same price at Amazon (nectar points& Amazon credit card points) and with 'prime' you get it next day! Orderd mine at 5.50pm on friday and at 8.30am on sat city link delivered it! The odd thing was that I ordered a wireless card at the same time and that was sent by royal mail and arrived around 11am. So on £90 worth of stuff it probably cost them about £20 in postage!

Installed it today and runs fine. Bit p*ssed off that they dont work on media center but powerdvd 7.3 works a treat. Used 'AnydvdHD' to rip a BD to the HD but at 22.5GB just for the film they are a little big to be stocking up on. When I dont need the computer for a whole day I will convert a BD to h.264 to see what the results are like.

Ps, I use an Asus ATI 2400hd 128mb graphics card and it runs 1920*1080 with no problems.
#27
I ran the Cyberlink check and it says that my onboard graphics are suitable to play Blu-Ray, surely this cannot be right as it will not be HDCP, will it???
#28
anyone know anything about Mac compatibility?
would love to put one in my Mac Pro but no idea if it would be worthwhile.
#29
empyphil;2616664
I have tried it on a 38 inch Panasonic 720p
and a 19inch 1440 by 900 and 24 inch monitor. 1680 by 1050

Its really poor quality when compared to a real hd dvd player, there is a lot of fuzzyness when you look close.
I was very disapointed.


You have some sort of problem with the PC then, because powerdvd produces an identical picture to bluray/hddvd players (I have both).
#30
empyphil;2616664
I have tried it on a 38 inch Panasonic 720p
and a 19inch 1440 by 900 and 24 inch monitor. 1680 by 1050

Its really poor quality when compared to a real hd dvd player, there is a lot of fuzzyness when you look close.
I was very disapointed.


Depends on what media player you are using and what graphics card you have as virtually all the newer graphic cards will do the video decoding in hardware but you need to be using PowerDVD for this.

Currently I have got a Xbox HD-DVD drive hooked up to PC machine on a 24" monitor via a ATI 2600 I can definately see the difference between a HD-DVD and a normal DVD upscaled.
#31
arcsbite;2616782
anyone know anything about Mac compatibility?
would love to put one in my Mac Pro but no idea if it would be worthwhile.


The drive will work btu I am not aware of any media player on the mac which will deal with HD-DVD or BluRay but I have not check for a few months.
#32
marks;2616831
The drive will work btu I am not aware of any media player on the mac which will deal with HD-DVD or BluRay but I have not check for a few months.

it's not that easy.
I'm unsure about the sata vs ide issue when it comes to the drive vs the mac pro.
the built in DVD player in Leopard has HD playback options.

just unsure about the hook up....may get one and test...hmmmm
#33
spud131
I ran the Cyberlink check and it says that my on-board graphics are suitable to play Blu-Ray, surely this cannot be right as it will not be HDCP, will it???


What on-board graphics are you using? The x3100 on my dell wont run BD. As for HDCP this only matters if you are using DVI or HDMI and not VGA. Most graphics cards that are of a standard able to play BD will be HDCP compliant anyway.
#34
GAVINLEWISHUKD
What on-board graphics are you using? The x3100 on my dell wont run BD. As for HDCP this only matters if you are using DVI or HDMI and not VGA. Most graphics cards that are of a standard able to play BD will be HDCP compliant anyway.


ITs the intel G33/31 chipset on mines. BOught a cheap X850 pro off ebay the other day just to boost the onboard graphice. Hopefully wont have any problems playin blu-ray and hd-dvd.
#35
I got an 8800GT so very good , when I look at HD DVDS they look a mile better on my EP30 rather than using powerdvd ultra.
They look better than dvds but not as good as my real hd dvd player. Which is to be expected really.


And for the Mac playback last time I checked there was no software which could play hd dvds on a mac yet.
#36
empyphil;2617225
I got an 8800GT so very good , when I look at HD DVDS they look a mile better on my EP30 rather than using powerdvd ultra.
They look better than dvds but not as good as my real hd dvd player. Which is to be expected really.



It should look 100.00% identical to the output of the ep30, given the decoding process is the same, and neither is doing any postprocessing whatsoever.
#37
empyphil

And for the Mac playback last time I checked there was no software which could play hd dvds on a mac yet.


Roxio Toast does, it plays back both BR and HD-DVD stuff. You'll need to get the plugin for it to work though.

http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/toast/plugin/overview.html
#38
I just looked again, there is deffinatly a sort of haze when you look close. Its probly because im very close to my screen but you wouldnt notice further back
#39
just ordered this bad boy
#40
But you've already mentioned this deal on the other thread. Why have different threads on the same product item - all pertinent information should be contained in the one thread surely and yours was not the original.
Daz CPFC;2616271
That's not the same deal, same item though.As input on your thread that's not the cheapest deal hence why I posted this one. That's the point of this site as far as I'm aware.

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