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GGC-H20L Bulk version with software (non retail) 6 X Blu-Ray Combo with HD-DVD, DVD-RW Internal SATA

Blu-ray Disc and HD Dvd-rom drive 6x BD-R read speed 3x HD DVD read speed 16x DVD write speed LightScribe

Product Description LG GGC H20L Super-Multi - DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM / BD-ROM drive - Serial ATA
Device Type DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM / BD-ROM drive
Enclosure Type Internal
Interface Serial ATA
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#1
Wish I hadn't got my HD DVD drive for £20 when they were cheap the other week now... futureproof for only another £60 more.

Well, futureproof until the next generation of media comes out...
banned#2
just wait a little longer... bluray will drop in price...
#3
GGC-H20L Bulk version with software (non retail)

Any idea what software it comes with? If you’re buying one of these it makes sense to get one that has software bundled for playing back HD optical discs as otherwise you’ll end up paying a lot just for the software. Some of these come with an OEM version of PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 I think!

Scan has sold the Retail version for £81 – 82 on Today Only quite a few times this month. If it has a better software bundle it could well be a better deal.
#4
Dabs are selling the RETAIL BOXED version for £10 more at £93.98, with opportunities for quidco etc, though hit for P&P unless Dabs do some free P&P offer again (usually £99.99 though and not every weekend as once was!)

Still £157+ at ebuyer!
#5
mk-donald


Still £157+ at ebuyer!


Ebuyer one is the re-writer (GGW-H20) model ;-)
#6
mk-donald
Still £157+ at ebuyer!

That's the Blu-ray burner and this isn't.
#7
Ooops sorry guyz - I MEANT to check the part number but it was late :(
#8
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Introducing the GGC-H20L, supporting the next generation of optical disc formats. The Blu-ray disc format offers more than five times the storage capacity of traditional DVDs and can hold up to 25GB on a single-layer disc and 50GB on a dual-layer disc. Not only can you playback the BD format, you can also read and play HD-DVDs. The drive is also capable of burning DVDs and features the Lightscribe labelling function.

- BD-R Read: 6x
- BD-RE Read: 2x
- HD DVD Read: 3x
- DVD+R: 16x, DVD-R: 16x
- DVD+R DL: 4x, DVD-R DL: 4x
- DVD+RW: 8x, DVD-RW: 6x
- DVD-RAM: 5x
- DVD-ROM Read: 16x
- CD-R Write: 40x
- CD-RW Write 24x
- CD Read: 40x
- Buffer Size: 4MB
- SATA Interface
- Lightscribe Labelling Function
- Includes: PowerDVD BD & HD-DVD, SATA Cable, Power Adapter, Screws & Instructions
#9
edi
Includes: PowerDVD BD & HD-DVD, SATA Cable, Power Adapter, Screws & Instructions

The full retail version does come with PowerDVD Ultra (OEM 2 channel audio) but I was wondering if this non retail version also has it since it isn't mentioned in the product description.
#10
Would you still need a good monitor? ie. a HD monitor? Otherwise it defeats the object. Also what about the graphics card - does this need to be HD?

Thanks.
#11
aj_aziz
Would you still need a good monitor? ie. a HD monitor? Otherwise it defeats the object. Also what about the graphics card - does this need to be HD?

Thanks.


Its best to have a graphics card and monitor with HDCP support, but as far as I know they haven't started using HDCP widely yet.
#12
Your going to need a graphics card powerful enough to play HD content, i'm pretty sure every computer monitor is capable of HD output....am i wrong?
#13
You will need a HDCP graphics card to get the full effect

For full specs needed see here:
http://www.cyberlink.com/english/support/bdhd_support/system_requirement.jsp
#14
The HD Dvd knockers still havent twigged that this is the way to go.
Whilst they are saving up for the domestic player, savvy people will have a library of recent films on HD that will still play on the Korean manufactured BD Writers and Roms:roll:

No point in getting this really. Wait for the LG Writers (£160) to come down, to be able to burn 25/50 gig onto a disc, play Bluray and HD movies too.
#15
lewismoo;1997593
Your going to need a graphics card powerful enough to play HD content, i'm pretty sure every computer monitor is capable of HD output....am i wrong?


Most monitors in the market now are only capable of doing either 1280*1024 or 1440*990 - both are not HD (HD is 1920 * 1080).

Options are: either buying an extremely expensive HD monitor or connect your PC to a HD TV, which is what I'm doing with my media centre.
#16
"No point in getting this really. Wait for the LG Writers (£160) to come down, to be able to burn 25/50 gig onto a disc, play Bluray and HD movies too."

You could but why would you need to write this much data to a disc unless you are illegally copying Blu ray disks?
banned#17
clubsmed
"No point in getting this really. Wait for the LG Writers (£160) to come down, to be able to burn 25/50 gig onto a disc, play Bluray and HD movies too."

You could but why would you need to write this much data to a disc unless you are illegally copying Blu ray disks?


They were my thoughts as well. Plus u cant compare something at £160 to something at £80. It could be a year or 2 before the price comes down to 80 quid. Been thinking of getting one of these and an external enclosure to use as an external drive. Plus u can bypass HDCP using Anydvd hd - so can use via VGA - also this program allows u to play blurays from any region - however i've never tested this so i'm not sure it does actually work
#18
You don’t need a powerful graphics card just one that supports decoding of HD formats and a cheap HD 2400 Pro can do that.
If you’re CPU is powerful enough you can use any VGA card; roughly >2GHz dual core.
If you are connecting your monitor via DVI or HDMI you will need a HDCP compliant graphics card and monitor. Otherwise if you use an analogue VGA connection you’ll currently have no problems.
There’s not so much to be gained from watching HD discs on a 20” or 22” monitor at 1680x1050. You really need a 24” monitor (1920x1200) as a minimum to start getting a fuller benefit. A 1080P TV is of course a better option.
PowerDVD Ultra OEM only supports stereo audio so be prepared to spend quite a lot to upgrade if you want surround sound.
#19
clubsmed
"No point in getting this really. Wait for the LG Writers (£160) to come down, to be able to burn 25/50 gig onto a disc, play Bluray and HD movies too."

You could but why would you need to write this much data to a disc unless you are illegally copying Blu ray disks?


I guess for those of us who use a PC for more than just watching movies, you might want to backup your hard drive(s) ?
#20
refaey
Most monitors in the market now are only capable of doing either 1280*1024 or 1440*990 - both are not HD (HD is 1920 * 1080).

Options are: either buying an extremely expensive HD monitor or connect your PC to a HD TV, which is what I'm doing with my media centre.


You need a minimum resolution of 1280x720 and progressive scan to display the minimum HD spec of 720p. As far as HDCP compliant hardware goes, AnyDVDHD negates this (and other things!) on HTPC's ;-)
#21
I wouldn't touch Saverstore with a bargepole. Formerly known as savastore...go read up on them before ordering.
#22
Agharta;1995922
Any idea what software it comes with? If you’re buying one of these it makes sense to get one that has software bundled for playing back HD optical discs as otherwise you’ll end up paying a lot just for the software. Some of these come with an OEM version of PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 I think!
Scan has sold the Retail version for £81 – 82 on Today Only quite a few times this month. If it has a better software bundle it could well be a better deal.

I just got the retail one of these (arrived Monday) from Ebuyer but it looks like it's been removed from their stocklist now. Not much in the box apart from a SATA cable, some screws, SATA power convertor. Disk included contains all sorts of backup and imaging software, a blue ray/hd-dvd system checker and a VERY limited PowerDVD. Version 7.something which only does 2CH output.
You'll need 7 or 8 Ultra (though HD-DVD has been removed from version 8 but can be re-implemented via an easy fix!) to get Digital out to your AV Amp.
#23
refaey
Options are: either buying an extremely expensive HD monitor or connect your PC to a HD TV, which is what I'm doing with my media centre.


HD monitors are not expensive. A 24" 1920x1200 panel can be had for under £200.
#24
beanoni
I guess for those of us who use a PC for more than just watching movies, you might want to backup your hard drive(s) ?


If it is for backing up then an external hard drive would be cheaper then the extra cost of adding the extra Blu-Ray writing facility and more durable than disks (also have a larger capacity in that price range!).
#25
You will need a vey fast processor to get the best out of one of these. I've been dabbling about with HD and my old 3gig 64bit Athlon just won't cut the mustard, even on 720p. Ive been reading up and a top of the range quad core will do a good job, but were talking money.
#27
Danosaur1
You will need a vey fast processor to get the best out of one of these. I've been dabbling about with HD and my old 3gig 64bit Athlon just won't cut the mustard, even on 720p. Ive been reading up and a top of the range quad core will do a good job, but were talking money.


Actually what you really need is a decent graphics card. Most newer ones from Nvidia and ATI (newer being the last couple of generations) will decode Blu-ray/HD-DVD without a problem and take all (or most) of the load off the processor. They're not that expensive, either, if all you want to do is decode video.
#28
Would I be correct in thinking the following would be up to the task?:

Cheap Allendale or X2.
ATI 3450.
2GB RAM.

Going to get one of these drives once Scan have restocked.......just need to decide which of my rigs to use.:?

Or perhaps an even cheaper option.....one of the newer boards with onboard gpu/HD decoding?
#29
vaiopup
Would I be correct in thinking the following would be up to the task?:

Cheap Allendale or X2.
ATI 3450.
2GB RAM.

Going to get one of these drives once Scan have restocked.......just need to decide which of my rigs to use.:?

Or perhaps an even cheaper option.....one of the newer boards with onboard gpu/HD decoding?


PC pro
This brings us to the 3450's real function, which is video. It supports ATi's Unified Video Decoder technology, allowing it to run full 1080p high-definition video without overstressing the CPU. Technically, it should be able to decode up to 1440p, but this is unlikely to be of use for some time - 1080p is the key and, crucially, the HD 3450 can manage it.

Source: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/labs/175575/ati-radeon-hd-3450.html

You'll be fine =)
#30
Can the Blu Ray profile be updated for these drives? (i.e. 1.1 or 1.3) Or is that purely software related that would be installed along with WinDVD or whatever package you used?
#31
ch3wbacca
Can the Blu Ray profile be updated for these drives? (i.e. 1.1 or 1.3) Or is that purely software related that would be installed along with WinDVD or whatever package you used?

It’s a software issue which is also why the PS3 has been updated and will continue to be updated with new Blu-ray profiles.
#32
How is surround sound handled on blu rays and HD DVDs using one of these?

I have a Creative X-Fi hooked up to my AV receiver using the 7.1 analogue inputs on the receiver. I can get surround sound on things like DVD-A discs or upconverted stereo sources. Would I be able to access uncompressed, TrueHD or DTS HD MA soundtracks? If not are there any soundcards that would handle this (either by decoding them and sending them out via 7.1 analogue or somehow sending them out through a bitstream (are there any soundcards with HDMI out or is there a way of sending the audio information out of a HDMI port on the gfx card?)?
#33
Kaprikawn
How is surround sound handled on blu rays and HD DVDs using one of these?

I have a Creative X-Fi hooked up to my AV receiver using the 7.1 analogue inputs on the receiver. I can get surround sound on things like DVD-A discs or upconverted stereo sources. Would I be able to access uncompressed, TrueHD or DTS HD MA soundtracks? If not are there any soundcards that would handle this (either by decoding them and sending them out via 7.1 analogue or somehow sending them out through a bitstream (are there any soundcards with HDMI out or is there a way of sending the audio information out of a HDMI port on the gfx card?)?


In theory yes, you could get the HD audio tracks by using analogues to your amp. But as it stands AFAIA PowerDVD downsamples the audio currently due to the licencing, although Im not sure if AnyHDDVD can remove these restrictions. Still you would have to rely on your soundcards DACs rather than the amps processing.

The Asus P5E-VM is one of the first mobos, that can use the HDMI and output the HD audio via LPCM (like the PS3). There are no current solutions for bitstreaming however to the new gen HD audio amps (onkyo 605 etc).

Look out for the Auzentech HDMI 1.3 X-Tension sound card that will be the first to decode the next gen formats (as well as bitstream), and has the option to route through your video as well.
#34
I bought this drive but i cant get any hi definition disc to work,normal dvds are ok. I have a new Hannspree Verona monitor with an HDMI socket and a ATI Radeon x1500 pro (?) graphics card with HD playback, used an HDMI socket on the monitor but the graphics card has no HDMI connection, so using a DVI connection on the other end but still no pictures!!! what am i doing wrong??
If i go VGA to VGA connections will i be able to get a high definition picture at 720P?
#35
ranjadaganja
They were my thoughts as well. Plus u cant compare something at £160 to something at £80. It could be a year or 2 before the price comes down to 80 quid. Been thinking of getting one of these and an external enclosure to use as an external drive. Plus u can bypass HDCP using Anydvd hd - so can use via VGA - also this program allows u to play blurays from any region - however i've never tested this so i'm not sure it does actually work

I bet these will be down to £50 or less by September and the writers < £99. Purely because as sales volumes go up, prices come down, and the media is now getting cheaper.

My only worry is that the HD DVD read facility may get removed too.
#36
Prufrock
I wouldn't touch Saverstore with a bargepole. Formerly known as savastore...go read up on them before ordering.


Yep, they are the retail scum of the earth which is why they went bust, leaving a massive debt with the suppliers...
#37
had one for 3 weeks from scan (£81) works great with hd-dvd and blu-ray

great drive really quiet in my htpc:thumbsup:
#38


Thanks for the link & welcome to HUKD gluttony :)

Until today morning, the price was £144 delivered @ Play..
#39
edi
Thanks for the link & welcome to HUKD gluttony :)

Until today morning, the price was £144 delivered @ Play..


Using the 5% voucher ( http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/163461/5-discount-at-play-com/ ) it is £78 delivered. A much better deal imho than savastores somewhat dodgy reputation.

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/4208689/LG-GGC-H20L-DVDRW-Blu-Ray-BD-ROM-HD-DVD-ROM-Internal-SATA-Drive-Bare-Drive-Incl-Software/Product.html
#40
jpieter
I bought this drive but i cant get any hi definition disc to work,normal dvds are ok. I have a new Hannspree Verona monitor with an HDMI socket and a ATI Radeon x1500 pro (?) graphics card with HD playback, used an HDMI socket on the monitor but the graphics card has no HDMI connection, so using a DVI connection on the other end but still no pictures!!! what am i doing wrong??
If i go VGA to VGA connections will i be able to get a high definition picture at 720P?

Your VGA card very likely doesn’t support HTPC over DVI which is why it doesn’t work; try using a VGA connection.

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