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LG Minibeam Ultra Short Throw Projector Full HD - £838.00 @ Amazon France

£838.00 @ Amazon France
Posting a deal after a very long time now... Been eyeing this projector for quite some time... now found it on Amazon.fr for €958.99 delivered to the UK (sold by videoprojecteur24). At today's vani… Read More
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Posting a deal after a very long time now...

Been eyeing this projector for quite some time... now found it on Amazon.fr for €958.99 delivered to the UK (sold by videoprojecteur24). At today's vanilla exchange rate (i.e. no commission) of €1.145/£, it works out £838 - which is the same price as you would pay if importing this from US or Korea - just that you will have to pay additional international shipping and Customs Duty for doing that which would inflate the cost by more than 20%.

For those who don't know what an Ultra Short Throw projector is, it is a projector that can be kept really close to the wall/screen and it gives you a massive image. This projector can produce an image of about 50 inches diagonal when kept away about 11 inches from the screen. At about 17 inches the image size is 90 inches.

Works perfectly as a home cinema when you want to have a movie or footy night, and you can change the size to something reasonable when watching news and things like that!

Video of projector in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14D5H6vQdOU
Video of Mat (techmoan) using this projector: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55la7bJhd04
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6 Likes #1
As a former projector engineer I have an opinion :)

1 year warranty. That alone is a huge no on a £900 projector.
DLP are old (cheap) tech now, also ultra short throws are a compromise in quality and tend to dim at the corners due to the design. Never fitted one for home use as they tend to be for schools/business use due to the quality of the picture.

If you have the option of a normal LCD based projector take that instead and look for one with a realistic warranty.
1 Like #2
if its projecting at such a massive angle id guess a screen would be highly recommended as even slight imperfections in a flat wall would be amplified surely?
#3
GoNz017
As a former projector engineer I have an opinion :)
1 year warranty. That alone is a huge no on a £900 projector.
DLP are old (cheap) tech now, also ultra short throws are a compromise in quality and tend to dim at the corners due to the design. Never fitted one for home use as they tend to be for schools/business use due to the quality of the picture.
If you have the option of a normal LCD based projector take that instead and look for one with a realistic warranty.
Hi, as an expert I would like to request if you can recommend a projector. Basically I wanted something with 3D, but confused whether to get a 3D tv or 3D projector. Other things like active/passive to consider? Short through could be good. Budget not an issue unless it's seriously expensive. Mostly for personal use. Many thanks
1 Like #4
GoNz017
As a former projector engineer I have an opinion :)
1 year warranty. That alone is a huge no on a £900 projector.
DLP are old (cheap) tech now, also ultra short throws are a compromise in quality and tend to dim at the corners due to the design. Never fitted one for home use as they tend to be for schools/business use due to the quality of the picture.
If you have the option of a normal LCD based projector take that instead and look for one with a realistic warranty.

I have some questions, like why the focus on warranty? It's nice sure but it doesn't cover a blown bulb which'd be a couple of hundred pounds to replace and most of the cost on a cheap projector. Combine that with most other problems being noticeable on the first use and I'm not sure what the point is.

Also LCD vs DLP you'd go with LCD? Seriously? My experience is with low end projectors (below £600 say) but in that range the LCD offerings have far lower contrast. In the upper middle range LCDs make a comeback, then really top end ones use 3 DLP chips + laser sources.
#5
You can buy a 50in 4k TV for less, what is so good about a projector, apart from size?
2 Likes #6
walsall123
You can buy a 50in 4k TV for less, what is so good about a projector, apart from size?

It's really just size, and size matters!

Watching a movie at home on 120" screen versus a 50" is so much better more like going to the cinema. Still keep the TV though, for "TV stuff".

Edited By: jaypr on Aug 18, 2016 12:12
#7
I just see this as being a TV with a screen size that is flexible. Has all the features of any modern TV... multiple connectivity options, 3D projection, smart TV, bluetooth, etc, etc.
#8
The next best projector in the UST range is the Sony 4k - but you might have to remortgage your house to buy that one... costs about $50k.
1 Like #9
My comment as a gamer, if you want giant screen to play kinect or ps4 motion games.... With projectors Short throw is the only way to go.
#10
walsall123
You can buy a 50in 4k TV for less, what is so good about a projector, apart from size?

100" is 4x the area, don't underestimate it. In my previous place the distance to the TV was 1.5-2m so a 50" plasma suited the space nicely. Moved flat, the distance is now 4m so 50" looks tiny! Replaced it with a projector for a 120" image and it's so much better, DLP for contrast, high light output to make it okay in the daytime... good purchase.

Apologies for the potato camera but this:
http://i.imgur.com/PKueDKu.jpg

Is easily beaten by this (the speakers are further apart in this):
http://i.imgur.com/r4YkN97.jpg
#11
i got a gtx1080 for 550 from amazon. that is short throw and I use it all the time. will have to compare specs but if this is like the phillips ultra short throw and 1080p then seems hot to me!

i am waiting for 4k to come down in price...
1 Like #12
CampGareth
GoNz017
As a former projector engineer I have an opinion :)
1 year warranty. That alone is a huge no on a £900 projector.
DLP are old (cheap) tech now, also ultra short throws are a compromise in quality and tend to dim at the corners due to the design. Never fitted one for home use as they tend to be for schools/business use due to the quality of the picture.
If you have the option of a normal LCD based projector take that instead and look for one with a realistic warranty.
I have some questions, like why the focus on warranty? It's nice sure but it doesn't cover a blown bulb which'd be a couple of hundred pounds to replace and most of the cost on a cheap projector. Combine that with most other problems being noticeable on the first use and I'm not sure what the point is.
Also LCD vs DLP you'd go with LCD? Seriously? My experience is with low end projectors (below £600 say) but in that range the LCD offerings have far lower contrast. In the upper middle range LCDs make a comeback, then really top end ones use 3 DLP chips + laser sources.
If I was to spend the guts of £900 on any display device, ignoring potential consumables, I'd expect more than a 1yr warranty.
#13
Save your money and just get a normal projector ..... ust projectors are not that good and definitely not with worth paying extra for imo.
#14
Oneday77
CampGareth
GoNz017
As a former projector engineer I have an opinion :)
1 year warranty. That alone is a huge no on a £900 projector.
DLP are old (cheap) tech now, also ultra short throws are a compromise in quality and tend to dim at the corners due to the design. Never fitted one for home use as they tend to be for schools/business use due to the quality of the picture.
If you have the option of a normal LCD based projector take that instead and look for one with a realistic warranty.
I have some questions, like why the focus on warranty? It's nice sure but it doesn't cover a blown bulb which'd be a couple of hundred pounds to replace and most of the cost on a cheap projector. Combine that with most other problems being noticeable on the first use and I'm not sure what the point is.
Also LCD vs DLP you'd go with LCD? Seriously? My experience is with low end projectors (below £600 say) but in that range the LCD offerings have far lower contrast. In the upper middle range LCDs make a comeback, then really top end ones use 3 DLP chips + laser sources.
If I was to spend the guts of £900 on any display device, ignoring potential consumables, I'd expect more than a 1yr warranty.

Oh sure, but if I had the choice between say a £300 projector with a year and an identical one for £400 with 3 years, I'd pick the cheaper model. Either the lens assembly is poorly aligned, it's dead on arrival, it overheats in the first long use, or the bulb blows. All of those things are covered in the lesser warranty or won't be in either case. Worst thing would probably be the power supply blowing up a few years down the line but eh, 4K DLPs should be affordable by then so replacing the projector might make more sense... unless it costs £900, whole other set of internal debates.

Edited By: CampGareth on Aug 18, 2016 13:46
#15
CampGareth
[quote=GoNz017] As a former projector engineer I have an opinion :)
I have some questions, like why the focus on warranty? It's nice sure but it doesn't cover a blown bulb which'd be a couple of hundred pounds to replace and most of the cost on a cheap projector. Combine that with most other problems being noticeable on the first use and I'm not sure what the point is.
Also LCD vs DLP you'd go with LCD? Seriously? My experience is with low end projectors (below £600 say) but in that range the LCD offerings have far lower contrast. In the upper middle range LCDs make a comeback, then really top end ones use 3 DLP chips + laser sources.
Epson have a 24 month lamp warranty on the home cinema range 3yr on the projector (optional warranties available)

I wouldn't spend under £600 on a projector, may as well stick with a 50" TV.

3 DLP chips and laser are out of the budget of most people and are very good technology, single DLP tends to be a colour wheel and that is a horrible technology, Smart projectors up to me leaving the business were colour wheel DLP, reds look brown and as soon as the motor started to fail due to a few specs of dust causing an imbalance and flicker city until the sensors picked up on it and threw the red light of doom on the power light. No way back from that apart from replacing the colour wheel

Laser projectors are coming, Casio were 1st but still do not have the FHD/QHD offerings or I would put it on the list.

LED are the way forward but still have a fair way to go until they are home cinema quality.

My opinions are based on what I worked with so I have no opinion on other makes.
1 Like #16
iamshahid
GoNz017
As a former projector engineer I have an opinion :)
1 year warranty. That alone is a huge no on a £900 projector.
DLP are old (cheap) tech now, also ultra short throws are a compromise in quality and tend to dim at the corners due to the design. Never fitted one for home use as they tend to be for schools/business use due to the quality of the picture.
If you have the option of a normal LCD based projector take that instead and look for one with a realistic warranty.
Hi, as an expert I would like to request if you can recommend a projector. Basically I wanted something with 3D, but confused whether to get a 3D tv or 3D projector. Other things like active/passive to consider? Short through could be good. Budget not an issue unless it's seriously expensive. Mostly for personal use. Many thanks
https://www.epson.co.uk/products/projectors/home-cinema/eh-tw6600w-with-hc-lamp-warranty around the £1250 mark
https://www.epson.co.uk/gb/en/viewcon/corporatesite/products/mainunits/overview/18317 if you have 3 grand to spare and want 4k

https://www.epson.co.uk/products/projectors/home-cinema/eh-tw5350-with-hc-lamp-warranty £500 to £600 mark

To be fair you can't go wrong with Epson for home cinema setups
https://www.epson.co.uk/products/projectors
I initially trained for Epson but the company I worked for took on Smart, Hitachi, BenQ, Casio & Optoma. While Smart, Hitachi & Casio are more for Educational & Business use Optoma and BenQ had high failure rates.
Never did anything with Sony but they are really expensive and customers likes Epson service the best as they shipped out lamps fast (NBD) and would offer to replace with a refurb unit or allow you to have yours collected for workshop repair if it sounded like it couldn't be done at home due to the service contract limiting onsite time.
1 Like #17
This is a similar set up to what I bought a couple of years ago. Still looks fantastic.

BenQ W1080ST+ from Richer Sounds with 6 year Warranty - £749

PCW120GE 120" HD Motorised Projector Screen from Amazon - £120

Here's what it looks like:

http://www.steveconrad.co.uk/jason/proj1.jpg
http://www.steveconrad.co.uk/jason/proj2.jpg
http://www.steveconrad.co.uk/jason/proj4.jpg
http://www.steveconrad.co.uk/jason/proj5.jpg
http://www.steveconrad.co.uk/jason/proj6.jpg






Edited By: jaypr on Aug 18, 2016 14:06: edit
#18
brilly
if its projecting at such a massive angle id guess a screen would be highly recommended as even slight imperfections in a flat wall would be amplified surely?
Oh hell yeah, no drop down screens for those!
1 Like #19
Mat (techmoan) bought one and did a review
#20
i don't use a screen for mine. awesome results. me and my son love it. just use a light coloured wall. maybe screen is better but I just like maximising the size of the display
#21
Had a projector for 10 years now and never looked back. Getting ready to move house and the next place won't even have a TV.

Thing is, huge TVs are all very well and good for the hour or 2 a day they get used, but the rest of the time they're ugly monoliths taking up room. A touch of prep work means you can have a screen that switches between 50" & 150" that's daylight viewable and takes up literally no room whatsoever when not in use
#22
GoNz017
CampGareth
[quote=GoNz017] As a former projector engineer I have an opinion :)
I have some questions, like why the focus on warranty? It's nice sure but it doesn't cover a blown bulb which'd be a couple of hundred pounds to replace and most of the cost on a cheap projector. Combine that with most other problems being noticeable on the first use and I'm not sure what the point is.
Also LCD vs DLP you'd go with LCD? Seriously? My experience is with low end projectors (below £600 say) but in that range the LCD offerings have far lower contrast. In the upper middle range LCDs make a comeback, then really top end ones use 3 DLP chips + laser sources.
Epson have a 24 month lamp warranty on the home cinema range 3yr on the projector (optional warranties available)

I wouldn't spend under £600 on a projector, may as well stick with a 50" TV.

3 DLP chips and laser are out of the budget of most people and are very good technology, single DLP tends to be a colour wheel and that is a horrible technology, Smart projectors up to me leaving the business were colour wheel DLP, reds look brown and as soon as the motor started to fail due to a few specs of dust causing an imbalance and flicker city until the sensors picked up on it and threw the red light of doom on the power light. No way back from that apart from replacing the colour wheel

Laser projectors are coming, Casio were 1st but still do not have the FHD/QHD offerings or I would put it on the list.

LED are the way forward but still have a fair way to go until they are home cinema quality.

My opinions are based on what I worked with so I have no opinion on other makes.


The affordable Casio projectors are LED lamps not laser unless they've got something new out in the past year
#23
Rich44
GoNz017
CampGareth
[quote=GoNz017] As a former projector engineer I have an opinion :)
I have some questions, like why the focus on warranty? It's nice sure but it doesn't cover a blown bulb which'd be a couple of hundred pounds to replace and most of the cost on a cheap projector. Combine that with most other problems being noticeable on the first use and I'm not sure what the point is.
Also LCD vs DLP you'd go with LCD? Seriously? My experience is with low end projectors (below £600 say) but in that range the LCD offerings have far lower contrast. In the upper middle range LCDs make a comeback, then really top end ones use 3 DLP chips + laser sources.
Epson have a 24 month lamp warranty on the home cinema range 3yr on the projector (optional warranties available)
I wouldn't spend under £600 on a projector, may as well stick with a 50" TV.
3 DLP chips and laser are out of the budget of most people and are very good technology, single DLP tends to be a colour wheel and that is a horrible technology, Smart projectors up to me leaving the business were colour wheel DLP, reds look brown and as soon as the motor started to fail due to a few specs of dust causing an imbalance and flicker city until the sensors picked up on it and threw the red light of doom on the power light. No way back from that apart from replacing the colour wheel
Laser projectors are coming, Casio were 1st but still do not have the FHD/QHD offerings or I would put it on the list.
LED are the way forward but still have a fair way to go until they are home cinema quality.
My opinions are based on what I worked with so I have no opinion on other makes.
The affordable Casio projectors are LED lamps not laser unless they've got something new out in the past year
The ones I worked with were "Laser - LED Hybrid" Blue laser, Red LED. Give em a couple of years and they will be full laser.
#24
Rhythm
Had a projector for 10 years now and never looked back. Getting ready to move house and the next place won't even have a TV.
Thing is, huge TVs are all very well and good for the hour or 2 a day they get used, but the rest of the time they're ugly monoliths taking up room. A touch of prep work means you can have a screen that switches between 50" & 150" that's daylight viewable and takes up literally no room whatsoever when not in use
I know, I'm always having to hoover round my TV and warn the kids to avoid tripping over it.....on the wall :{
#25
Oneday77
I know, I'm always having to hoover round my TV and warn the kids to avoid tripping over it.....on the wall :{

Exactly, bloody horrible things. Big black window to nothing. Urgh.

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_800_800/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAQ8AAAAJGE1NmQ2ZjY0LTE0NWMtNDMxZS05OTg4LTRiYjg4MmRkNTU3MQ.jpg

Edited By: Rhythm on Aug 18, 2016 22:30

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