LG N2B1D NAS Drive with Blu-Ray Writer £129.99 @ Dabs & 3% Quidco (£136.59 delivered) - HotUKDeals
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Been looking at one of these for a while and the price has finally dropped!

This is the diskless version but is still a stonking deal. The 2Tb equipped version is £100 more from Dabs but according to a review on eBuyer this will support 4Tb in RAID 0 i.e. 2x2Tb discs which makes it better than the 2Tb version, even though the manual states otherwise (this is with official firmware so no homebrew implementation). 2Tb discs are about £50-60 right now (Dabs have them on offer at the moment via Quidco too!).

Saw one of these sell on eBay for £180 delivered earlier this week.

Product details here: http://www.lg.com/uk/it-products/network-storage/LG-network-storage-N2B1.jsp.

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#1
Will these work with squeezebox, out of the box?
#2
hang on a mo... i am currently running the same machine but with a DVD player which i purchased from ebuyer, the drives that come with it are two lots of hitachi hdt7210sla360 1TB 7200 sata's

now when these are in stripe RAID 0 with no protection then you have a max of 2TB

I have no-idea about if the machine will take 2TB drives, proberly will but putting in those £50 cheap 2TB might not be a good idea, the reason why is the speed of green 2TB drives, they can be very slow at moving so much data.

However if you torrenting or doing something that doesn't require full speed drives then maybe it will work okay for you.

but i would want to confirm that 2TB will work inside it, mine is at work so cannot test it
#3
Didn't mention that the blu ray was a rewriter - white hot at this price, that drive has got to be worth about £90 on it's own.
#4
Looks good, I posted the 2TB with DVD yesterday at £174 I think it was.
#5
Hot
#6
great price
#7
Regarding Drives.
Has anybody got some recommendations for 2TB drives to go with this.
#8
surfer69
Regarding Drives.
Has anybody got some recommendations for 2TB drives to go with this.


I have the Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB there around £60 very good so far.
#9
apparently, the USBs allow you to bolster storage with extra drives....bit stupid it wont allow you to play blu rays, but i can understand not being able to copy them
#10
surfer69
Regarding Drives.Has anybody got some recommendations for 2TB drives to go with this.

any manufacturer should be fine, ive had alot of probs with WD drives but only those in usb ext drives

Edited By: royals on Dec 28, 2010 04:50
#11
raid 0 is pretty naff though, not what id call proper RAID - no fault tolerence - one disk failure, goodbye data

on a different note, will this take 2 2tb disks under JBOD
#12
these were a silly price new, esp when you look at devices like hp's mediasmart servers which come with a drive and more features and massive storage capability with 4 drivebays (8tb), plus external storage capability
#13
Anyone know if the DNLA server is xbox compatible?
#14
shadypenguin
Anyone know if the DNLA server is xbox compatible?


Here's one thread I russled up quickly, I'm sure you can find more, a 3rd party firmware may help >

http://www.avforums.com/forums/networking-nas/1185211-connecting-lg-n2b1-my-xbox-360-a.html

A review of the NAS in which the reviewer stated they had no problems streaming to a PS3 and Xbox 360 >

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/networking-and-wi-fi/network-attached-storage-nas-/lg-n2b1-dd2-680175/review

Multiple reviews of the unit (scroll down and click on the "Read the full review" under each section) >

http://www.testseek.com/computers/harddrives/nas/lg_n2b1_esata/usb2-p-5b24cd9e-1e22-babc-d473-16795ad56d1b.html


Edited By: fishmaster on Dec 28, 2010 10:14
#15
Monkey nuts 2
Will these work with squeezebox, out of the box?


I suspect the box does not have the power to run squeezebox very well. i would like to be wrong as i have a readynas and am thinking of getting one of these. I am not sure what the advantage of a bluray writer is though in this machine, unless it can be used to rip movies for backup to stream over network rather than have disks lying about.
#16
Bt shop is the same Company as Dabs, 3% quidco but postage is £1.38 cheaper

£135.21 delivered here

http://www.shop.bt.com/products/lg-electronics-n2b1-nas-enclosure-with-bluray-6B77.html

£133.62 delivered here + 4% quidco at BT Business direct, but never used them so not sure if they have rules on individuals purchasing

http://www.businessdirect.bt.com/basket.aspx?ul=1&page=/products/lg-electronics-n2b1-nas-enclosure-with-bluray-6B77.html

It does drive me nuts, the number of people who post 'hot deals' without doing a simple google shopping search, which brings up a cheaper offer

Edited By: paul.jacobs on Dec 28, 2010 10:47
#17
I have one of these that came with blueray - 2 x 500GB drives a while ago for about the same price. Mine has a esata connector - looking at the link this one does too. It's very quiet (except when it beeps during startup etc) look really well made but I haven't used it much except for upgrading the bios, bit torrent etc.
Will try backing up some stuff on Blue ray later.
#18
royals
raid 0 is pretty naff though, not what id call proper RAID - no fault tolerence - one disk failure, goodbye data

on a different note, will this take 2 2tb disks under JBOD

Why don't you read the specification?
#19
I've got loads of external drives in various sizes. Can I connect these via their usb and use as storage?
#20
Still considering this and wondered if this drive will allow me to read bluray 3d disks
#21
Does any one know what's the speed the Blu-Ray writes.
#22
Does anyone know if it would be possible to remove the Blu Ray drive (to put in PC)? I ideally want to put the NAS away out of sight - but would be ideal to be able to use the Blu Ray drive in my PC. As someone stated earlier the optical drive alone is a fair few quid!
#23
I've had one of these for just on a year its very good. I've posted some of this on another thread but hear goes:

1. You can use a pair of 2tb discs as JBOD or Mirrored.
2. The main Samsung support page is at http://lgknowledgebase.com/kb/index.php?View=entry&EntryID=6416.
3. The main Samsung page includes a list of 'recommended' discs - not all Samsung
4. The best page for custom firmware is at http://forum.nas-portal.org/showthread.php?8873-Tantalus-Firmwares the guy Tantulus really seems to know his stuff.
5. You can read Blu-ray drives across the network.
6. For all Blu-ray work you need to use iSCSI This is installed with Vista and Win 7 but needs to be downloads from M$ for Xp it's free.
7. Once you have iSCSI installed you can watch and rip Blu-ray discs across the wire.
8. To rip Blu-ray you need to use software to help I've used DVDFab to create an ISO image which I've then written back to the NAS box at the same time as it was being rippped.
9. The ISO image has then been mounted as a drive and plays just fine across the network.
10. To view Blu-ray you need some software - the Samsung box I bought include sofware to do this.
11. It runs very, very quiet.
12. It runs very, very cool my pair of 1tb disks typically shows 24c and 26 c.
13. I had a look at the inside of the box I have you probably could remove it but it looked messy so I wouldn't if it was mine.
#24
Will this play and burn DVD's also, or is it just BluRay
#25
Will this play and burn dvd's also?
#26
Yes it will play DVDs I haven't burnt anything but I see no reason why it shouldn't work.
#27
paul.jacobs
Bt shop is the same Company as Dabs, 3% quidco but postage is £1.38 cheaper

£135.21 delivered here

http://www.shop.bt.com/products/lg-electronics-n2b1-nas-enclosure-with-bluray-6B77.html


£133.62 delivered here + 4% quidco at BT Business direct, but never used them so not sure if they have rules on individuals purchasing

http://www.businessdirect.bt.com/basket.aspx?ul=1&page=/products/lg-electronics-n2b1-nas-enclosure-with-bluray-6B77.html


It does drive me nuts, the number of people who post 'hot deals' without doing a simple google shopping search, which brings up a cheaper offer


£1.38 cheaper on a £135 product? Really? If that drives you nuts you have problems ...
#28
Just for completeness I have just tested the burning across iSCSI and yes it works fine.

I burnt a DVD ISO image across the network with the NAS box being visible to my PC as a DVD Drive.

I then watched it from the NAS box no problems.

I used ImgBurn to burn the ISO go to http://www.imgburn.com/ to download it's a free product.
#29
my-planet
royals
raid 0 is pretty naff though, not what id call proper RAID - no fault tolerence - one disk failure, goodbye dataon a different note, will this take 2 2tb disks under JBOD
Why don't you read the specification?

i did you moron, and it states 2 x 1TB....some people hinted been able to add 2x2TB under RAID, but query relates to JBOD and whether 2x2TB disks will work...just proves you are stupid, i bet if someone told you to jump off a cliff you would....if i followed your dumb advice then i would assume this would only support a max of 2TB as per the spec, but asking the question ive found out that it will support 4tb, therefore you win my "moron of the week" award



Edited By: royals on Dec 30, 2010 03:02: e
#30
semifinal
Does anyone know if it would be possible to remove the Blu Ray drive (to put in PC)? I ideally want to put the NAS away out of sight - but would be ideal to be able to use the Blu Ray drive in my PC. As someone stated earlier the optical drive alone is a fair few quid!

you could put it a cupboard or under the desk - i have my WHS in a cupboard, runs a little hotter but its fine...i just leave some room around it for ventialtion and drilled a vent hole in the back of the cabinet
#31
tempted by this, have a hp mediasmart Windows home server but also have 4 usb ext drives that are a pain as they keep dropping off/on...this would be a better solution and with the br writer bonus......hmmmm
#32
I am planning to buy this, but is this better than Qnap TS-210?
#33
Tommoxyz
I've had one of these for just on a year its very good. I've posted some of this on another thread but hear goes:

1. You can use a pair of 2tb discs as JBOD or Mirrored.
2. The main Samsung support page is at http://lgknowledgebase.com/kb/index.php?View=entry&EntryID=6416.
3. The main Samsung page includes a list of 'recommended' discs - not all Samsung
4. The best page for custom firmware is at http://forum.nas-portal.org/showthread.php?8873-Tantalus-Firmwares the guy Tantulus really seems to know his stuff.
5. You can read Blu-ray drives across the network.
6. For all Blu-ray work you need to use iSCSI This is installed with Vista and Win 7 but needs to be downloads from M$ for Xp it's free.
7. Once you have iSCSI installed you can watch and rip Blu-ray discs across the wire.
8. To rip Blu-ray you need to use software to help I've used DVDFab to create an ISO image which I've then written back to the NAS box at the same time as it was being rippped.
9. The ISO image has then been mounted as a drive and plays just fine across the network.
10. To view Blu-ray you need some software - the Samsung box I bought include sofware to do this.
11. It runs very, very quiet.
12. It runs very, very cool my pair of 1tb disks typically shows 24c and 26 c.
13. I had a look at the inside of the box I have you probably could remove it but it looked messy so I wouldn't if it was mine.


Thanks for the summary - but just a few quick questions.

That link to the "samsung" site is actually to the "LG" site - and the recommended list contains no 2TB Samsung drives (just a few WD and Hitachi). The Samsungs are apparently preferrable for stability compared to the EADS/EARS or such and are also quiet drives so i was keen on them - can you post the link to any info on 2TB Samsungs in these NAS's or any other forum links that help work out what compatible 2TB drives work with this box? Would really be appreciated. Not sure where you posted these comments before but headsup would be good.

Sorry to labor the point - but have found it quite hard to find anything technical or proper forums on this NAS device. LG are next to useless, and it doesnt get the same type of technical support or discussion as QNap or NetGear...etc.. so its hard to work out what kit fits together with this.

Im looking to build a 2 x 2TB box, and maybe apply unofficial firmware if it lets me SSH and VNC onto this puppy. I also like the selective mirroring feature - which really could be quite good as only a portion of my media is worth backing up really (home videos, personal photos, data) - the rest i dont really care about downtime on.

Also couldnt see any specifics about using the BD (rewriter 6x speed) on this box. I am assuming iSCSI works, but slowly, across the network. As a backup its great for the attached HD's tho.

And finally - does anyone know if attached HD's on the eSata or USB ports are fully usuable to backup or copy files OFF the NAS drives? I read this wasnt possible under the std interface but i reckon this is essential for archiving (along with Bluray).

great post!

Edited By: skeeter909 on Dec 30, 2010 13:56
#34
skeeter909


Thanks for the summary - but just a few quick questions.

That link to the "samsung" site is actually to the "LG" site - and the recommended list contains no 2TB Samsung drives (just a few WD and Hitachi). The Samsungs are apparently preferrable for stability compared to the EADS/EARS or such and are also quiet drives so i was keen on them - can you post the link to any info on 2TB Samsungs in these NAS's or any other forum links that help work out what compatible 2TB drives work with this box? Would really be appreciated. Not sure where you posted these comments before but headsup would be good.

Sorry to labor the point - but have found it quite hard to find anything technical or proper forums on this NAS device. LG are next to useless, and it doesnt get the same type of technical support or discussion as QNap or NetGear...etc.. so its hard to work out what kit fits together with this.

Im looking to build a 2 x 2TB box, and maybe apply unofficial firmware if it lets me SSH and VNC onto this puppy. I also like the selective mirroring feature - which really could be quite good as only a portion of my media is worth backing up really (home videos, personal photos, data) - the rest i dont really care about downtime on.

Also couldnt see any specifics about using the BD (rewriter 6x speed) on this box. I am assuming iSCSI works, but slowly, across the network. As a backup its great for the attached HD's tho.

And finally - does anyone know if attached HD's on the eSata or USB ports are fully usuable to backup or copy files OFF the NAS drives? I read this wasnt possible under the std interface but i reckon this is essential for archiving (along with Bluray).

great post!


I agree IMHO Samsung drives are current the best and when I replace disks I always use Samsung drives. Several other forums say 2tb is no problem so when I fill my 2 x1tb box up that's what I'll do.

As for support for the box I have contacted LG about the box by 'phone (normal rate call) and they were fine. I agree that Support sites for this are a bit thin on the ground but then I haven't needed them as the box is really simple to set up and I've not had any problems with it.

iSCSI is a fast block level protocol and its data transfer speed is limited to the media speed so the speed you write at is network dependant effectively it should run as fast as the cable or the end point devices.

The USB ports are for you to archive OFF the USB - it confused me as I thought I could archived data directly to a USB disc you can't.

Not used the eSATA so can't help on that.

Copying data to the Blu-ray is simple pretty much point and click from the admin screen.

Another link for you is: http://www.avforums.com/forums/networking-nas/1358486-lg-nas-advice-please.html
#35
Thanks Tommoxyz. Have just bought 2 x 2TB Samsungs so wanted to know if this encolusre suits. Synology was where i was heading, but looking at the actual hardware stats on each - this box and the syn 2bay box are pretty much the same chip/mem/interfaces/linux footprint - with the LG one throwing in a BDwriter for the same price and trays. I know there are so-so reviews on performance for this older Marvel chipset but its probably worth the punt on the LG, and the unofficial firmware adds the SSH and DLNA (albeit via Twonky) I would want. So will give it a try i think.

This rolls up the pros/cons i think, for the DVD model, which is essentially the same thing : http://www.cdrlabs.com/Reviews/lg-n2r1dd2-2tb-super-multi-nas-with-dvd-rewriter/Conclusion.html

Can anyone comment on "selective mirroring" and how it works? Do i need a dedicated drive for this (e.g. like a 2TB main, 500gb mirror) setup? or is it simply a case of the NAS doing a simply folder-copy every time i update a certain folder on the primary?

Also was wondering about the unofficial firmware - it says its based on the DVD version, and wondering if it loses anything/is incompatible with the BD version at all? Wouldnt want to lose the BD burner function as a result of unofficial firmware.....

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