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I was in Lidl to see if they had rechargeable batteries left - none of the local ones I tried had any - but most had dozens of chargers left unsold three weeks after the offer - and the price has now dropped to a tenner.

I took a look at the charger - as it was very unusual in design - especially being able to charge six AA or AAAs at once (or four C or Ds) and with a different charge circuit for each. The two external places can take two AA/AAAs or a single C or D in each. Additionally it has two sockets for 9v PP3 batteries.

Lidl often sells rebranded products - and from the spec and very unusual connections for the multi battery set up - I compared it to ones on the internet - and I am 99% sure from the spec - set up - and charge rates - it seems to be the Ansman Energy 8 in a different housing. Even the contacts for the batteries are identical in the weird multi battery charge sockets. The LEDs for each circuit also performed identical functions in the sequence and display for each function that circuit was performing.

The cheapest the Ansmann Energy 8 charger is available for elsewhere is £38.99

So even with no batteries available still in Lidl - the charger on its own seems even more of a bargain now, and what;s more is they easily had them left in 3 of the 4 Lidls I visited - and easily had over a hundred in total.

UPDATE:
I contacted the manufacturer in Germany (Kompernass Ltd) who confirmed that these chargers are not Ansmann E8 chargers (not even OEM). Even though they look similar and have similar specs, they are from a completely different manufacturer and use different parts.
- alien7
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http://www.digital-cameras.com/pic/300x300/03/63/ansmann_energy_8_battery_charger_625.jpg

Ansmann Energy 8 Charger
#2
My goodness, great detective work and post! I don't need a charger but just wanted to say thanks for being a good detective/poster here!
#3
I have bought one - and will dismantle it later to become entirely sure - but everything I can see seems identical.
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heres the technical details for the genuine charger for anyone who is interested:
The Ansmann Energy 8 is a professional quality desk top battery charger capable of charging 6 x AAA or AA batteries, 4 x C or D size batteries and 2 PP3 batteries in various combinations. The Ansmann Energy 8 can be used throughout the world, as it has a switch mode power supply built in allowing it to operate from 100 - 240V AC at 50-60Hz, all you need is a suitable plug adapter to convert the fitted UK plug to one suitable for the country of use.

The Ansmann Energy 8 provides individual negative delta V (-dV) battery monitoring and charging and LED charge indicators for each battery position, including the PP3. Add to this the 3 year warranty and the Ansmann Energy 8 becomes a great choice for anyone needing a professional quality charger for PP3, D, C, AA and AAA size batteries.

Details
High-Tec charger with automatic refresh/discharge function for up to 8 cells

Desktop charger for 1-6 AAA or AA cells, 1-4 C or D cells in addition to 1- 2 PP3 (E-block)

Auto-diagnosis of the inserted cells with automatic start of a refreshing process, if required.

Damaged cells will be detected and discharged before fast charging.

-dV charging for all NiCd/NiMHcells;

Individual supervision of every cell position, including the PP3 (E-Block), faulty cell detection

Charge any combination of rechargeable NiCd/NiMH cells at the same time

Battery "Quick Test" indicates capacity when they are first inserted

Trickle charge once charging is complete

The cells can remain in the charger until they are needed

Switch mode power supply for worldwide use, all you need is a plug adapter for the country you are visiting.

3 year warranty

Link to Energy 8 Information from Ansmann

Ansmann Energy 8 Technical Specification
Input Voltage:
100-240V AC 50-60 Hz (UK & Euro Plug)

Output voltage:
6 x 1.45V 300mA for AAA size rechargeable batteries
6 x 1.45V 700mA for AA size rechargeable batteries
4 x 1.45V 1000mA for C and D size rechargeable batteries
2 x 1.45V 70mA for PP3 size rechargeable batteries

Dimensions:
198mm x 203mm x 70mm

Weight (inc. batteries):
710g

Ansmann Energy 8 Battery Charge Times
AAA NiMH 800mAh 3.2 Hours
AAA NiMH 1000mAh 4.0 Hours
AA NiMH 1300mAh 2.2 Hours
AA NiMH 1800mAh 3.1 Hours
AA NiMH 2300mAh 3.9 Hours
AA NiMH 2600mAh 4.5 Hours
AA NiMH 2700mAh 4.6 Hours
C NiMH 2200mAh 2.6 Hours
C NiMH 3500mAh 4.2 Hours
D NiMH 2200mAh 2.6 Hours
D NiMH 7000mAh 8.4 Hours
D NiMH 9000mAh 10.8 Hours
PP3 NiMH 170mAh 2.9 Hours
PP3 NiMH 250mAh 4.3 Hours
#5
Good work. This is real bargain hunting. I'm gonna buy one just for the amount of research done. Heat and rep added.
#6
I have the ansmann energy 8 charger (which is superb) and I saw the Lidl charger a couple of weeks ago so I looked at the specs and I was impressed - from memory I thought it looked smaller than the ansmann but the insides could well be the same/similar.

At the time I thought about getting one but the ansmann does everything I want really - but I may change my mind at a tenner:)
#7
just bought one seems a great charger thanks for the link m8
#9
hot find. giving rep for post and total number of posts ibiza has done.

ibiza
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#10
People seem to like the Lidl batteries, but they are by far the worst of the ones I have. Just today I freshly charged them, and used them on a digital camera and they lasted maybe 30-40 minutes if that. My other rechargeable batteries which supposedly have a lower capacity (1800 mAh) went through the same charge process and use, and they last over 1 hour.

If this charger is a rebadged of the Ansmann, then that's a great deal on its own though. I wonder if all the functions work properly internationally.
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bloodfire
hot find. giving rep for post and total number of posts ibiza has done.
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#12
Dont look too bad voted hot :thumbsup:
#13
Am i right in thinking i can recharge single AA & AAA batteries in this charger?

So i can put odd numbers in to charge?
#14
great work ,will pop into lidl tommorow , aldi had pressure washer earlier in the year and if i recall was rebadged kasher which was around £200+ and aldi were doing it for £90 unfortunatly i missed out on that one
hot hot hot
#15
Indeed most if not all manufacturers re badge there products They are most reluctant to admit it but they do con the general public if not all of the time then most of it,;-);-);-)
#16
alchemista
People seem to like the Lidl batteries, but they are by far the worst of the ones I have.


Interestingly, I have an entirely different experience. The lidl batteries I bought show up on my charger as consistently having stored a decent charge (I have a BL-700 charger which displays the amount of charge the battery holds). The worst have been the 7dayshop ones, which are pretty atrocious even after repeated cycles.

Edit: measured a two-year-old 800mAh AAA at 715mAh today, the AAs tend to get 2350+ on a 2400 rated battery.
#17
Might as well mention that most large Asdas still have the high quality Uniross Hybrio batteries in stock at £3.15 for 4.
(they dont loose their charge and are even sold fully charged)

Possibly the best batteries you can buy!
#18
Got one of these chargers a couple of weeks ago, and they are very good, much better than some of the carp chargers I've bought before. Discharges the batteries,refreshes them, and cuts off when they are fully charged.

Heat and Rep added :)
#19
This is quite a leap of faith by the OP.

Whilst the external shell may look the same, it is not uncommon for knock-offs to imitate other well-performing brands. Unless someone can verify that the innards are the same or at least confirm that this Lidl charger does all the functions of it's more expensive counterpart, this could well be a cheap knock off from China.
#20
alandarl
Might as well mention that most large Asdas still have the high quality Uniross Hybrio batteries in stock at £3.15 for 4.
(they dont loose their charge and are even sold fully charged)

Possibly the best batteries you can buy!

Where????

They have none in my nearest ASDA,
I am about to buy a dozen AA's, and was going to pay £15 for the Vapetex 'instant' from ebay, which i have bought before and work brilliantly.

by the way I have this LIDL charger, and it is a bit choosy, it sometimes declines to charge battery's, even new ones...I think its a bit too 'clever'.
1 Like #21
marcosdjcm
Am i right in thinking i can recharge single AA & AAA batteries in this charger?

So i can put odd numbers in to charge?


Yes (if it is an ansmann energy 8 charger)
I have an ansmann energy 8 and that is it's most useful feature, it charges each battery independently, so it can cope with a mixture of different capacity batteries in various states of discharge.
#22
ibiza
I have bought one - and will dismantle it later to become entirely sure - but everything I can see seems identical.


Hey Ibiza - How did u get on with this?
#23
Looks good...bought one earlier. Its branded 'Tronic'. Loads left in the Ipswich branch as well as shedloads of AA, AAA and PP3 nimH batteries @ £1.99 per pack.

Have used the Tronic nimH AA batteries in my Fuji 9600 camera though and they only last max 15 shots with the LCD on.
#24
I wonder if anybody has bought this one as well as the £40 one, just to see if they're identical
#25
Just went and got one fom Lidl. Priced at £14.99, but confirmed at till as £9.99.

Whether or not it is made by Ansmann, I don't know. The innards are similar, though not identical. It certainly claims to perform the same functions, and that is good enough for me. Intelligent charger with each cell controlled separately. For £10 that is a bargain whoever makes it.
#26
The configuration of the pins is identical and the instructions are the same as the ansmann just written in a different order.
#27
solidamber
The configuration of the pins is identical and the instructions are the same as the ansmann just written in a different order.


Configuration of the 6 inner slots is certainly the same. But the two 9 volt slots are above the 6 inner slots on the lidl one (and configured sideways). But below the 6 inner slots on the ansmann (and configured vertically). So it's certainly not the identical product with a different logo and outside casing. Quite possibly made in the same factory, or at the very least modelled on the ansmann. Certainly claims to do the same thing at any rate.
#28
Agreed
#29
Here's a link to the operating instructions (PDF 469KB) which includes a picture for anyone that's interested:

http://www.kompernass.com/pages/_pdfs/3d7ffc75d20d17e6ad8812f1cdaa7483.pdf

I've just bought one after walking round the store for 10 minutes looking for a ROUND one same as the Ansman picture :oops:

Voted HOT

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#30
i've been using the tronic batteries for a few years and i get loadsa pics.i do have to use 4 AA's (2000mAh) and although i haven't timed it i can use the camera all day and the battery's still work ok.the last time i took any amount of pics @ one time i took 60 pics.last year i lent the camera to my son for the day and he took well over 100 before the batteries died-good job cos he hadn't take the 4 spares.
#31
Anyone bought one of the lidl ones and had a go yet? I am wondering if mine is faulty. The light is turning solid green on most batteries in under an hour. Two (900mah tronic aaa) batteries which I know were completely dead before hand have gone from reading as solid red in the charge test (ie below 20% charge) to charging to solid green in 45 minutes! I wish I had a battery tester to see how strong the charge is. Surely that can't be right from the listed charging times though. Anyone finding something similar?
#32
Bubba Shaboo
Here's a link to the operating instructions (PDF 469KB) which includes a picture for anyone that's interested:

http://www.kompernass.com/pages/_pdfs/3d7ffc75d20d17e6ad8812f1cdaa7483.pdf

I've just bought one after walking round the store for 10 minutes looking for a ROUND one same as the Ansman picture :oops:

Voted HOT

[COLOR="Red"]Bubba[/COLOR]


hehe - that is exactly what i did - pretty pleased with it though.

Oh and where the hell is Ibiza?
1 Like #33
phatbhoy


Oh and where the hell is Ibiza?


Head for Barcelona, then turn left...

:)
1 Like #34
I bought one of these from Lidl in Rugby yesterday. They had loads left. Seems to work well.
#35
Right, just done a test. Took a 2500mah Tronic AA battery. Ran it completely down to death.

Put in charger. Solid red light came on, confirming that less than 20% charge. 90 mins later and light is now solid green, suggesting fully charged.

Manual suggests 225min charging time of 2500mah aa battery.

Similar experience with several different Tronic batteries new and old in this charger since I bought it yesterday.

What are other people finding? Is it possible that the charger's output specification has been changed and manual not been altered. Anyone else getting much quicker charging times than expected?
#36
I'm a pretty avid moneysaver but there's one thing that i believe you need to purchase is decent batteries, i've a set of 2700mah Ansmann batteries and a pair in my Pentax DSLR gives me over 350 10mp pictures..... @ £16 for 4 they were expensive but they are the dogs **********. I took well over 700 photos on holiday :o (only kept 150) and didn't have to take my charger with me, two pairs of AA did it.

The charger seems an excellent find if it is genuine Ansmann... rep added
#37
I suggest buying Hybrio or Eneloop batteries.
#38
Flake99
Right, just done a test. Took a 2500mah Tronic AA battery. Ran it completely down to death.

Put in charger. Solid red light came on, confirming that less than 20% charge. 90 mins later and light is now solid green, suggesting fully charged.

Manual suggests 225min charging time of 2500mah aa battery.

Similar experience with several different Tronic batteries new and old in this charger since I bought it yesterday.

What are other people finding? Is it possible that the charger's output specification has been changed and manual not been altered. Anyone else getting much quicker charging times than expected?


yes seems fast to me too. When is Ibiza gonna get back to us and confirm his findings?
#39
Flake99
Right, just done a test. Took a 2500mah Tronic AA battery. Ran it completely down to death.

Put in charger. Solid red light came on, confirming that less than 20% charge. 90 mins later and light is now solid green, suggesting fully charged.

Manual suggests 225min charging time of 2500mah aa battery.

Similar experience with several different Tronic batteries new and old in this charger since I bought it yesterday.

What are other people finding? Is it possible that the charger's output specification has been changed and manual not been altered. Anyone else getting much quicker charging times than expected?


I was going to suggest that the times given were for 110V systems, and that the 230V system we have in the UK would mean they would charge up quicker, but of course that depends on the circuitry within the charger and the batteries themselves, and I'm loathe to commit to this theory because surely there is circuitry to regulate the input power to the same overall level, regardless of voltage?
#40
Glad to know I'm not the only one finding unexpectedly quick charging times.

As you say, hopefully Ibiza will check back in.

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