LIDL LIVARNO LUX LED Solar Spotlight, £24.99 instore (from Monday 20.07.2015) - HotUKDeals
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PLEASE READ CAREFULLY, I've accessed (as usual) another site to get more detail that lidl uk tend not to publish with their instore deal goods..

Without taking goods apart I can only speculate as to these items being the same, hwever it's pretty darn likely isn't it, bearing in mind how stock go's on rotation..

Mains-free, environmentally-friendly outdoor light with 9 bright, long-life LEDs and motion detector
Solar panel with connection cable, length approx. (m): 3
Motion sensor detection angle (°): 120
2 for £45
3 Year Manufacturers Warranty

German site info....
Features:
Sensor-controlled radiator with a swiveling motion and separate solar panel module
Motion detection with adjustable range of up to 12 meters
Light duration adjustable from 10 seconds to 4 minutes
Twilight sensitivity adjustable
Weather-resistant and splash-proof (IP44)
9 quality LG LEDs
polycrystalline solar module*

(*wattage unknown unless more details appear courtesy hukd'ers)

Integrated Li-Ion battery (about 7.4 volts / 1800 mAh) ..meh! not good but better than nothing, wrong choice for you if you need long periods of frequent lighting this is designed for occasional / infrequent use, I'm guessing the battery is shoved in the already tight chassis of this commonly used design for floodlights, however it may be in a screw in pack beneath (incorporated within the solar panel also, ...I simply cannot tell.

Total luminous flux (with cover) ca. 520 lm ...(not great but a useful amount of light if not mounted stupidly high)!

3 metres of cable between solar panel & main light unit gives you plenty of scope without big electrical losses to find the best position (south facing, unimpeded) to keep that battery topped up for winter season use especially, the panel looks larger than others in this type of deal, however as usual module efficency & wattage of the panel are sadly nowhere to be found.

Color temperature (light color) 5000 K (neutral white)
Ra (color rendering index of LED): 80
LED lifetime about 25,000 hours

Would make a good shed light (external) at the bottom of the garden, near a kids play area to throw some extra light, as a door entry light. side of the house, side passage etc, ..this isn't going to light up a room to read by for an evening but is an improvement on the typical offerings elsewhere, it i pretty interchangeable & expandable so nice for a small diy project or a scouting badge, "tinkering type upgrade"

The 520 lumens stated is "about" 6 watts throw of an existing 10 watt flood of this type for comparison purposes. ..enough to get by & better than many.

DO remember that a PIR switch draws current (battery energy) ALL the time, but for convenience sake, this may be a good deal for some.

Lastly, these are named brand LED's (emitters) so should all be to a matched brightness level compared to other brands.. (trust me thats a good thing).
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#1
http://www.lidl.de/media/product/0/1/9/8/9/4/0/livarno-lux-led-solarstrahler-mit-bewegungsmelder-lss520-a1.jpg
#2
good price, anyone ever brought and used this before?
2 Likes #3
Hey folks voting cold, your reasoning would be greatly appreciated in terms of actual input rather than "clicky"

Unlike a lot of self contained units this can be "refreshed" as it ages due to the now "standard" led flood chassis, so you can purchase a 12v unit (if this ever fails for a few quid, ..ditto the pir, again standard) ..this gives a product an increased lifespan, or simple "hackability" to fix, maintain, learn from, or simply upgrade.
In terms of hacking, you could "buy & box" a larger battery pack for increased needs, or simply upgrade the solar panel completely.

To my minds eye this makes it a bit of a deal ongoing rather than "total landfill" compared to many products, the battery pack for instance is likely to be a simple solder job or a clip pack to facilitate ease of removal.

Compare it say to the little slanty combined solar entry light, plastic housing with a tiny PIR, which leaks & no access to replace the pir, which are full of thunderbugs & the likes or after 18 months are so rusted insde due to moisture ingress are tripping out.. this unit can be maintained easily & by dint of removal of the old pir (most likely to die due to cracked sensor cover degradation in sunlight over time) you'll actually learn a little about electronics / electrics giving yourself more clout in the diy stakes, (a skill not to be sniffed at)

Ah well :{
#4
No idea why this is cold??
#5
Thanks for delving. The 520 lm is certainly a step up from the 80 or so usual for the smaller LED spots.

But, and it's a big but, my reading of LED light is that it degrades in 'spaces'. Perhaps some knowledgeable 'expert' (there may be one on HUKD) can help here.

My last experience with an LED out front was that it didn't light up much at all. Even though the light source looked bright to the eye.
#6
LesD
Thanks for delving. The 520 lm is certainly a step up from the 80 or so usual for the smaller LED spots.
But, and it's a big but, my reading of LED light is that it degrades in 'spaces'. Perhaps some knowledgeable 'expert' (there may be one on HUKD) can help here.
My last experience with an LED out front was that it didn't light up much at all. Even though the light source looked bright to the eye.

I realise it's not a like-for-like comparison but this is a picture from an independent review of bike lights. The image is of a 500 lumen light.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0drxapfk27U/UaJnS5JYjEI/AAAAAAAAHSk/ShiVvVHbJUw/s640/Road.JPG

It should do the job for a garden light to stop me treading on snails while moving the bins! (_;)
#7
I use one very similar in my garage that has no electricity with the solar panel on the roof. Perfectly bright enough for finding stuff in the dark or putting the bike away in winter.
#8
Ha-ha, "torchy" site pic!?
1 Like #9
For someone wanting a slightly cheaper alternative then I have this:
http://www.ledhut.co.uk/led-flood-security-lights/solar-portable-flood-lights.html

Quidco/Topcashback usually have codes for 20% off, plus free delivery and cashback on top. It's not as bright as the one above but it's perfect for lighting up the bins at the side of my house.
#10
davidsr
For someone wanting a slightly cheaper alternative then I have this:http://www.ledhut.co.uk/led-flood-security-lights/solar-portable-flood-lights.html
Quidco/Topcashback usually have codes for 20% off, plus free delivery and cashback on top. It's not as bright as the one above but it's perfect for lighting up the bins at the side of my house.

Been looking at this, sounds like you get on ok with it.

Personally recommend ledhut, had fair bit of there, good warrenty too.

Use JUL15 at checkout for 15% + free del. Also 21% tcb currently
#11
I bought the older version, the 80 Led setup. It's been sitting in my garage for about a year and now I've finally got around to fitting it. Unfortunately as I was modifying the mounting bracket of the solar panel the wind flipped it of the workmate and onto the drive and smashed it. Needless to say I was well p155ed off. So, where can I get a new panel, any suggestions? Alternatively would the panel on the later model charge the older version? I'm very open to suggestions and any input would be very welcome.

Thank you, David.
#12
I bought two (£45) and they're brilliant (literally). They do waste power because the ballast to the LED (which requires 6v) is three fat resistors - so with a fully charged battery at 8.2v and 1A current, that's 2.2W being wasted. I modified one to replace the ballast with one from a cheap Chinese MR16 LED downlighter and reset the lamp current draw to 750mA. This results in a 50% reduction of battery discharge current and the lamp being about 10% dimmer - not noticeable, but also means the lamp lasts much longer. Although it's August now, I'm confident I can light my green when needed in the depths of winter.

Another thing to watch is the solar panel is not well sealed against water (though the main unit and connector to the panel are good). A fillet of RTV silicon rubber sorted that.

Overall, a very good product spoilt by cutting a few corners.
#13
For "us that know" ;) ballast is a major bone of contention in terms of efficiency aint it!?

Thanks for the confirmtion, I couldn't get to a lidl for this item in time, ...gutted but happy it works favourably for you.
Were you able to suss out the panel's wattage & efficiency at all?? ( follow the 3x rule where possible for our winter use when panel sizing).
#14
I bought two (£45) and they're brilliant (literally). They do waste power because the ballast to the LED (which requires 6v) is three fat resistors - so with a fully charged battery at 8.2v and 1A current, that's 2.2W being wasted. I modified one to replace the ballast with one from a cheap Chinese MR16 LED downlighter and reset the lamp current draw to 750mA. This results in a 50% reduction of battery discharge current and the lamp being about 10% dimmer - not noticeable, but also means the lamp lasts much longer. Although it's August now, I'm confident I can light my green when needed in the depths of winter.

Another thing to watch is the solar panel is not well sealed against water (though the main unit and connector to the panel are good). A fillet of RTV silicon rubber sorted that.

Overall, a very good product spoilt by cutting a few corners.
#15
Hi Mr Gus,

Don't know why my original post got itself repeated....

The solar panel can produce over 200mA, so I don't think there will be a problem with the battery going flat provided the lamp ON time isn't excessive (10 to 20 secs is enough - it is adjustable). I was more concerned that the battery might overcharge - you have to be careful with lithium. However, it has internal protection and shuts off at 8.5v. My only reservation with the battery is it's made by 'Great Power'. Previous experience with their batteries is that they are anything but! It remains to be seen - they might have improved.

This is the first piece of Chinese kit for some time I have evaluated that has been made properly - so they CAN do it!
#16
I bought two (£45) and they're brilliant (literally). They do waste power because the ballast to the LED (which requires 6v) is three fat resistors - so with a fully charged battery at 8.2v and 1A current, that's 2.2W being wasted. I modified one to replace the ballast with one from a cheap Chinese MR16 LED downlighter and reset the lamp current draw to 750mA. This results in a 50% reduction of battery discharge current and the lamp being about 10% dimmer - not noticeable, but also means the lamp lasts much longer. Although it's August now, I'm confident I can light my green when needed in the depths of winter.

Another thing to watch is the solar panel is not well sealed against water (though the main unit and connector to the panel are good). A fillet of RTV silicon rubber sorted that.

Overall, a very good product spoilt by cutting a few corners.
#17
bought this light in 2015 and it suddenly stop working? any ideas whats wrong?

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