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Lidl Veggy Oil 62p a litre. £1.24

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Hi went into my local Lidl this afternoon Sunday and 2 litres of their Veggy oil is £1.24. So at 62p a litre thats better than my local cash & carry bought loads cos my lil pug 205 diesel loves the st… Read More
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Hi went into my local Lidl this afternoon Sunday and 2 litres of their Veggy oil is £1.24. So at 62p a litre thats better than my local cash & carry bought loads cos my lil pug 205 diesel loves the stuff ...........chug chug make sure you got a Bosch fuel pump though......... otherwise if its a Lucas you'll be walking after a mile or 2
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1 Like #1
Fire up the Mondeo!
#2
Anyone one know if this will go into my kia cerato 1.5 turbo diesel??
#3
What are the penalties for evasion of excise duty, how many months imprisonment ?
#4
JR Hartley
What are the penalties for evasion of excise duty, how many months imprisonment ?


Like they're going to find out.
#5
vitertexltd
Anyone one know if this will go into my kia cerato 1.5 turbo diesel??

JR Hartley
What are the penalties for evasion of excise duty, how many months imprisonment ?

Newer cars such as your Kia may not be able to run on this oil, check.

There are no penalties for using vegetable oil.
#6
Bought some yesterday (for frying, not driving!). This stuff is a mix of sunflower oil & rapeseed oil.
banned#7
JR Hartley
What are the penalties for evasion of excise duty, how many months imprisonment ?

NON....you can legally use upto 2500 litres a year before you need to pay any duty

Edited By: slamdunkin on Nov 14, 2010 17:46
#8
From the HMRC website [url=]http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageExcise_ShowContent&id=HMCE_PROD1_024771&propertyType=document#P19_2506[/url]

Can I use vegetable oil in my car if I mix it with normal diesel?
You can use vegetable oil in your car and mix it with diesel (vegetable oil is generally used as a substitute for diesel) but you will have to make arrangements to pay the Excise Duty to HMRC. See question 'How do I notify Revenue & Customs that I am using cooking oil in my vehicle?'.

Important Note: It is illegal to run your car on any fuel substitute without having first paid us the duty.
#9
slamdunkin
JR Hartley
What are the penalties for evasion of excise duty, how many months imprisonment ?


NON....you can legally use upto 2500 litres a year before you need to pay any duty
All you need to do is keep the receipts for all the oil you chuck in ur motor just in case you ever got stopped for a dip check..............would be rare occurance in a private car.....its more commercial vehicles they're after...............checkfirst before using oil in your diesel the older the car the more likely you can use it......most modern diesels don't like it at all cos they run high pressure fuel pumps
banned#10
JR Haretly....is that an old link as it doesn't work for me....read this

is that an old page as the link doesn't work....

read this


It used to be the case that to legally use Straight Vegetable Oil as a vehicle fuel you had to pay duty on every litre that you set aside for road fuel purposes. However, since July 2007 if you are using/producing less than 2500 litres per year of SVO which is not duty paid then you are not required to pay duty on this fuel.
http://www.vegoilmotoring.com/eng/legal-stuff


Edited By: slamdunkin on Nov 14, 2010 18:00
#11
Enter hmrc using cooking oil as fuel on Google and it is top of the list
1 Like #12
JR Hartley
What are the penalties for evasion of excise duty, how many months imprisonment ?

For you sir 'Life sentence 3 times over & (CHIPS EVERYDAY) with no chance of parole LOL..........."
banned#13
4.2.1 Exempt producers/users
If you have produced or used less than 2,500 litres of:

■any biofuel, or
■any other fuel substitute or additive
within the last 12 months, and/or expect to produce or use less than 2,500 litres in the next 12 months, you are an exempt producer and do not need to register with us and account for duty. However, there are simple record keeping requirements, which are described in paragraph 4.9.1.


http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageLibrary_PublicNoticesAndInfoSheets&propertyType=document&columns=1&id=HMCE_CL_000205#P22_1468
#15
Bit too late posting this the offer was Saturday and Sunday only ,Its back to the normal price tomorrow.
#16
den169
Bit too late posting this the offer was Saturday and Sunday only ,Its back to the normal price tomorrow.
Thats right only saw this by chance goin into Lidl at 3pm sunday but my car has a full tank now + 3 more tanks to spare and she ain't moanin .........keep ur eyes peeled next time LOL...................Posting really cos I'm all for being a bit greener and if I can help any1 thenn I will so stop picking.....
#17
I've been using WVO and fresh veg oil for many years with something else to let it out a bit such as a bit of petrol or similar.Currently running a Saab 3.0 diesel and have for almost 4 years without a problem.There's too much scaremongering going on regarding this.................probably by the oil companies scared of losing their piece of the pie.When I started I broke it in a bit at a time using waste oil filtered through kitchen roll then mixed with diesel at first and now anything that will dilute the thick oil.Feels just so satisfying to know you're doing the government out of a cart-load of tax.
#18
Will a Peugeot 2.0 HDI engine run on this?
banned#19
it's not scaremongering some fuel pumps just cant handle the viscosity of Veg oil. which is why people fit the in-line heaters.
banned#20
mccririck
Will a Peugeot 2.0 HDI engine run on this?

have a look at the details on your engines suitability here

http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/fuelsdatabase/database/allentries.php
#21
The Mondeo refused to fire up - b........ks
#22
Looks like mine wont work, bummer.
#23
To all prospective people who own a diesel car WARNING!?!?!?!?!...............DO NOT PUT VEG OIL IN YOUR CAR WITHOUT FIRST CHECKING IF IT WILL COPE WITH IT. FALIURE TO DO THIS COULD RESULT IN A DAMGED FUEL PUMP OR YOUR ENGINE NOT STARTING AT ALL AT A COST OF DRAINING THE WHOLE FUEL SYSTEM..................YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
#24
I wouldnt reccomend using it in the winter at all. If you went thorugh the proper bio diesel conversion process then maybe, but just straight? erm... You are actually supposed to thin your diesel down in the winter with petrol, although I imagine most diesel at the pump will have winter additives in. I ran my fabia 1.9 sdi in the summer through about 60 litres or so of veg oil, it was fine but I did use mixes of diesel and added white spirit (not reccomended by most bio diesel fanatics as the law has problems once you use white spirit, although I think aslong as its non kerosene based then your ok dont quote me on it though. and it smells dead obvious, and its known to be abit smokey, and you might aswell just use petrol as its cheaper and 100% legal.)

It was abit smokey on startup sometimes and I ended up becoming paranoid that it wasnt do my car much good. So stopped using it. You should really use properly converted bio diesel as all that glycerine in straight oil cant do your car much good. But its such a pain to make a kit, buy the equipment/chemicals source cheap oil or free used oil etc etc that I just cant be bothered. Although tbh if your using straight oil it would be allot easier as you wouldnt need to worry about filtration, just a matter of heating the oil, and then adding Sodium Hydroxide and methanol. Letting it settle/seperate and pouring out the biodiesel and leaving the glycerine behind (which incedentally can be used as soft soap).

My advice is read up on it, set your self up with some basic equipement one weekend and give it ago, eventually you will find a method that is economically viable and easy to do. Unless your car is really old school and agriculatural like a mercedes 300D I wouldnt use straight oil in the winter, if you do want to then I would stick to only a 60 diesel/40 oil mix or even a 60 diesel 35 oil 5 petrol mix.

And also, you should use a fuel additive every now and then to clean your pipelines, cylinders and injectors, there are many about, there are some specifically for people using bio fuels.

And dont forget to change your fuel filter more oftend and check it and drain it of water.

Edited By: thabiz on Nov 21, 2010 12:21
#25
thabiz
I wouldnt reccomend using it in the winter at all. If you went thorugh the proper bio diesel conversion process then maybe, but just straight? erm... You are actually supposed to thin your diesel down in the winter with petrol, although I imagine most diesel at the pump will have winter additives in. I ran my fabia 1.9 sdi in the summer through about 60 litres or so of veg oil, it was fine but I did use mixes of diesel and added white spirit (not reccomended by most bio diesel fanatics as the law has problems once you use white spirit, although I think aslong as its non kerosene based then your ok dont quote me on it though. and it smells dead obvious, and its known to be abit smokey, and you might aswell just use petrol as its cheaper and 100% legal.)

It was abit smokey on startup sometimes and I ended up becoming paranoid that it wasnt do my car much good. So stopped using it. You should really use properly converted bio diesel as all that glycerine in straight oil cant do your car much good. But its such a pain to make a kit, buy the equipment/chemicals source cheap oil or free used oil etc etc that I just cant be bothered. Although tbh if your using straight oil it would be allot easier as you wouldnt need to worry about filtration, just a matter of heating the oil, and then adding Sodium Hydroxide and methanol. Letting it settle/seperate and pouring out the biodiesel and leaving the glycerine behind (which incedentally can be used as soft soap).

My advice is read up on it, set your self up with some basic equipement one weekend and give it ago, eventually you will find a method that is economically viable and easy to do. Unless your car is really old school and agriculatural like a mercedes 300D I wouldnt use straight oil in the winter, if you do want to then I would stick to only a 60 diesel/40 oil mix or even a 60 diesel 35 oil 5 petrol mix.

And also, you should use a fuel additive every now and then to clean your pipelines, cylinders and injectors, there are many about, there are some specifically for people using bio fuels.

And dont forget to change your fuel filter more oftend and check it and drain it of water.


Last winter I ran my 205 diesel non turbo (has bosch fuel pump) have taken out the paper fuel filter altogether and put a glass inline filter in its place that easily comes apart for cleaning.
I have plumbed in a domestic water boiler flat plate heat exchanger with a temp guage on the fuel line, and also plumbed in an alloy block with a glow plug to preheat for cold starts.
During summer months my 205 ran fuel temps of 50 degrees+ and during winter runs at about 35 degrees which thins the mix enough on a single tank system to run ok. Alright its very lumpy on start up but hey this always a trade off - just start ur car 10 mmins before setting off in the morning at least its nice and warm inside LOL
I ran it on 75% straight veg oil and 25%diesel when it was real cold (sub zero temps for a few weeks running) with no problems at all and have been running my 205 for year and a half now on veg oil.
I would recommend though to any1 do not use any kind of solvent based thinners/petrol in your mix as it will knacker any rubber seals in lines and fuel pumps better to thin it down with some diesel as that is what a diesel car is designed to run....and you know you ain't gonna do it no harm.....:-)
#26
Sounds like a good setup. I dont see why petrol would do harm as manufacturers reccomend mixing your diesel with petrol in the winter anyway. And I think things like redex are naptha/kerosene. But yeah, I wouldnt reccomend white spirit as it smells very noxcious and gives off white smoke slightly.

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