Linksys PLK200-UK Wall Socket PowerLine AV Ethernet Adapter Kit (Twin Pack) £49.44 @ Scan + post&p - HotUKDeals
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Have gone up over a quid, still a good price tho!
For those who missed out on the cheap Zyxel ones.
Misco have them for £155!!!!

The Linksys PLK200 PowerLine AV Ethernet Starter Kit lets you turn the existing powerlines in your home or office into a high-speed network. Now you don't have to drill through the walls and climb through the attic or cellar to install network cables -- just use the wires that already run through the building!

The Linksys PLK200 PowerLine AV Adapter interfaces Ethernet devices to the HomePlug AV PowerLine network standard. Just plug the PowerLine AV Adapter into the wall, and connect your Ethernet-equipped device to the Adapter using the included network cable, and you've turned your whole house into network infrastructure! Attach more computers to the network by simply plugging them into the wall anywhere in the house, using more PowerLine AV Adapters.

Once your computers are connected to the network, they can share resources like printers and storage space, and all kinds of files -- music, digital pictures, and documents. With up to 100Mbps data rates, you can play lag-free head-to-head network computer games, and run media-centric applications like streaming video and Voice over IP telephony. And if you use a PowerLine AV Ethernet Adapter to interface one of the famous Linksys Broadband Routers from your cable or DSL Internet connection to your PowerLine AV network, you'll be able to get to the Internet from any computer in the house.

The Linksys PLK200 PowerLine AV Ethernet Starter Kit is the perfect solution for high-speed, "no new wires", home or office networking.

Use your home or office's existing powerlines to network your computers
Bridges 10/100 Ethernet and powerline networking
Data rates up to 200Mbps 128-bit encryption keeps your data secure
Share files, printers, network storage, and gaming throughout your home connect it to a router to share your cable or DSL Internet connection
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Blimey. Sounds like a nice idea, but does anyone know what these are like in practice?
#2
BadMutha5
Blimey. Sounds like a nice idea, but does anyone know what these are like in practice?


I have them all over my house and had great results. I have the Zyxel AV router with 2 Zyxel AV homeplugs. I also run a pair of the turbo (85mbs) ones too...
#3
BadMutha5
Blimey. Sounds like a nice idea, but does anyone know what these are like in practice?


i have these one and they are brill ZyXEL PLA-401 these have now gone up in price
#4
Good deal.

Are these compatible with the zyxel pla401 200mbps av homeplugs? I take it that any with "compliant with HomePlug AV specification 1.1" means they are compatible...

EDIT: You get free delivery with AV Forums I think as well...
#5
£56.33 with shipping so unless you can get free shipping (do they still do free shipping for AVforum members) then Amazon is cheaper at £51.16 shipped.
#6
aerotec
£56.33 with shipping so unless you can get free shipping (do they still do free shipping for AVforum members) then Amazon is cheaper at £51.16 shipped.


The entry on Amazon is a Marketplace Seller at that price, the one available directly from Amazon for £55ish ships in 1-2 months :-) I think i'd rather go with Scan.
#7
Well I've been umming and arring as I'd like to dload large files (i.e. 7-12gb every now and again). The alternative is running an ethernet cable out of and then back into the house. Seems messy, but cost effective. Decisions decisions?! :-(

Thanks for the useful comments so far, and good post.
#8
They should be compatible, although from experience I always try to stick to one manufacturer for routers, adapters and other network components. This is an excellent brand, you can easily pay more thank this for one.
#9
I use these exact ones, they work *perfectly*. Never have had a problem, perfect speed 24/7. Couldn't recommend higher :)
#10
nadzzz
Good deal.

Are these compatible with the zyxel pla401 200mbps av homeplugs? I take it that any with "compliant with HomePlug AV specification 1.1" means they are compatible...

EDIT: You get free delivery with AV Forums I think as well...


Homeplug hardware very rarely works properly with other devices at the moment. it *should* work fine, but in the experience of most (just google) - its never the case!

The joy of being an 'early' adopter, i guess.
#11
do you need a certain type of router for these adapters...

my phone socket is down stairs but my computer is upstairs in my bedroom , is these adapters sutible ?
#12
Does it work if they're plugged into a four-way gang socket which is plugged into the wall?

(Also, the mains sockets are supposed to be on a single ring, right?)
#13
You need a modem router (for BT-line type broadband) or a cable router (for cable type...doh!) with a spare ethernet port on it and two powerline plugs, OR a single powerline plug and a powerline-enable router.

Mind you, if you just want to connect your pc to your router and your router is wireless, just get a wireless PCI card for your PC.

These powerline sockets and router are excellent. We've got everything hidden away under the stairs thanks to these (a Zyxel 200mbps router and Zyxel 200mbps Powerline plugs in use), plus a Belkin network USB server to deal with all of the usb hardware, such as HP multifunction printers and various old external USB drives. Coupled with two good deals on 1TB MyBook drives (NAS and USB) and our previous HP MediaVault, we are sorted!! Xbox360 running wirelessly as well and Zyxel streamer feeding the TV.

Anyone want loads of old tangled ethernet cables? :whistling:
#14
I've been using some of the Solwise 85Mbps and can highly recommend both the concept and branding of those. Have used alternative Linksys gear in the past and that's always been high quality.
The only thing I'd comment on the different speeds is that for high rate transfers (backing up images or high resolution media streaming to consoles) the 85Mbps don't quite cut it and the 200Mbps would be better. That said at the price of these they seem to be what I paid about 12 months ago, so a bargain really to get around what some people could be finding with slower wireless and with intermittent connections.

Doesn't apply to me but checked some of the manufacturers forums and while some people get limited success by using these on different ring mains in a house, the majority strongly recommend being on the same one. A quick look in the house fuse box should tell you that you have a common circuit on the electrical sockets, or not.
#15
Sorry for being dim but how do these work? I live in shared accomodation with 20 rooms and 4 floors. im on the only floor where the wireless is bad since the other floors have access points so I hate having to use my Belkin gamind adaptor for my pc as its not very stable plus if I want to play xbox live I cant check internet etc.
#16
So what is the conclusion? Does anyone here have both the Zyxel PLA400/1 and these Linksys PLK200 working together?
#17
What are these like for latency?
#18
BadMutha5
Well I've been umming and arring as I'd like to dload large files (i.e. 7-12gb every now and again). The alternative is running an ethernet cable out of and then back into the house. Seems messy, but cost effective. Decisions decisions?! :-(

Thanks for the useful comments so far, and good post.


If you really want to be cost effective then definitely run the cable. For everything else invest in a pair of home plugs.

The wireless is rubbish in my house and having a cable going downstairs to the PS3 not a viable solution. These homeplugs resolve all of that, they reach all over my house and they also work in an extension for me.

There are others you can get for cheaper and reduced speeds - ebuyer extra value 85mbps £34.99 (not inc. pnp).

ryouga
Sorry for being dim but how do these work? I live in shared accomodation with 20 rooms and 4 floors. im on the only floor where the wireless is bad since the other floors have access points so I hate having to use my Belkin gamind adaptor for my pc as its not very stable plus if I want to play xbox live I cant check internet etc.


You need two homeplugs for them to work.

You attach one to the router via ethernet cable.

The other you attach to your PC / xbox via ethernet cable.

They plug into the wall and I have them using extension cables - be warned some people report problems when using with extension cables.

That's about it, non-technically anyway. Just configure them the first time by running the software and then synchronising them (with password) means nobody else can plug a homeplug in and use your network. Takes two minutes max, literally are plug and play.

NB. In your situation you will have to attach it to the main router. If you do attach it to a wireless access point then I presume you can only get wireless speed (54mbps) and not the full capability (not that you will reach 200mbps anyway!).
#19
tempting
#20
I just bought a similar product from amazon. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001AIKBB4
They are £54.98 delivered so about the same as this, does anyone know if it is worth me cancelling my order and getting these?
#21
I would not recommend using these in a business premises as the PC will send ARP packets down your power lines for any one to sniff and spoof. In other words... only use these if your not that botherd about security, your data will be able to be sniffed from any one connecting a PC to the same power line, as far as you know they could run out side of your home/office.

Some of these adaptors use AES encryption which is much safer, so safe in fact that the US government is considering using it for their classified information. So... buy the encryption ones!

EDIT----

This version does come with 128bit AES encryption.

Specifications
Standard HomePlug AV Standard, IEEE 802.3, IEEE 802.3u
Port Ethernet
LEDs Power, PowerLine, Ethernet
Cabling Type Cat5
Security Feature AES Encryption
Security Key Bits 128
#22
On Amazon UK and Amazon US they say this one is 100Mbps, not 200Mbps.
What is the true speed?
#23
Available on Kikatek.com for £50.32 including Super Saver delivery.

http://www.kikatek.com/product_info.php?products_id=59032
#24
looks like that is for a single one on Kikatek and not a twin pack - is that right?
#25
if you want to 'try' out the technology - argos do 28 day return on the Belkin 200Mbps twin pack £78 - reduced from £107
#26
furq;4135397
Does it work if they're plugged into a four-way gang socket which is plugged into the wall?

(Also, the mains sockets are supposed to be on a single ring, right?)


It will work on a four-way gang socket, but it's bets to avoid surge protection as that can slow the speed down quite a bit and as long as your electrics are on a circuit they should work.
#27
So, let me get this straight, if I were to use these with my 360 and ps3, there would be no lag and stutter issues like there is over my wireless connection at the minute, when streaming hi-def media to the consoles?
#28
rounderdvds;4137092
So, let me get this straight, if I were to use these with my 360 and ps3, there would be no lag and stutter issues like there is over my wireless connection at the minute, when streaming hi-def media to the consoles?



I've got a PS3, Wii and PC hooked up to the network with these (with ZyXEL equivalent ones) with no lag and steady speeds and my wi-fi's now switched off.
#29
rounderdvds
So, let me get this straight, if I were to use these with my 360 and ps3, there would be no lag and stutter issues like there is over my wireless connection at the minute, when streaming hi-def media to the consoles?


I wouldn't go as far as to say you will have no lag and stutter issues, but it is less likely that you will experience these sorts of issues with homeplugs than you will with wireless - there is no real substitute at present for standard ethernet - homeplugs lie somewhere between wireless and ethernet in terms of performance - and their performance relies on several factors such as the quality of the wiring in your home, the distance between the source and destination homeplugs, and potential interference on your ring circuit from other heavy duty items such as fridges, washing machines and cookers which can cause little surges or ripples in the supply when they kick in - so your mileage may vary based on your own localised conditions.

Having said all that, I've been using homeplugs (Devolo) for a couple of years now and they've been great - I too use them to stream media to my XBOX 360 and PS3 and there are very few issues.
#30
Can anyone tell me whether the units in the picture plug directly in to the wall socket (unlikely from the pic) or whether they come with some form of trailing lead? If the latter how long is the trailing lead and is it a proprietary fitting or just a kettle/figure8 lead?
#31
Hi I live in an old Victorian house over 3 floors and BT home hub was a nightmare on wireless for console. I was getting 1 meg tops on an 8 meg conn. I switched to 85mbps plugs and went up to 5meg in under 20 seconds. Best buy of the year. The 85's also make streaming of divx and movies to my 360 from desktop pc 3 floors up flawless. They will drop at HD on 85's but these 200's should easily cope with it.

Does anyone know about compatability? Could I use my current set of 85's (I have a mix of solwise plugs and Netgear hub plugs which are compatable fine at same speed - 85mbps) with these 200's? I am unsure about mixing speeds, though form what I have found - in theory they should work but in practise its less reliable.

thanks
#32
I would recommend the Comtrends 902's (200mbps) that are available on ebay for the same sort of money for a practical reason;

They have a mains socket built into them.

Typically 85mbps networks will not work with 200mbps. If you do a search ON THIS FORUM, then you will find this question being asked and answered several times.
#33
Bear with me as I am not technical, but our house has electric points on two different 'circuits'.

IE. You can switch one half of the house sockets off with one fuse tripper and leave the other half live. If the router and the PC are on different fuses does this mean these will not work - they are all in the same fuse box.


Christine
#34
I have been using the devolio 85mbps ones for about 2 years so may go for these as an upgrade! My flat runs off the electricity from my parents place an i dont have a phone line, so these transfer my network over about 100metres with no probs!!! I have my own fuse box but if my parents lose power so do i!

everydayisxmas: it probably wont wok, but i suggest buying some from argos to test them and if it's ok, get these or similar as argos is usually more expensive! That's what i did as i wasnt sure either at first.

Are they 100mbps or 200 as the blurb says upto 100 mbps and then also says upto 200mbps!!??
#35
everydayisxmas
Bear with me as I am not technical, but our house has electric points on two different 'circuits'.

IE. You can switch one half of the house sockets off with one fuse tripper and leave the other half live. If the router and the PC are on different fuses does this mean these will not work - they are all in the same fuse box.


Christine


As far as I am aware, they all have to be on the same ring main to be able to speak to each other. How this translates into in your house I am not sure but may be worth a try and see. Even better if you could borrow a pair from someone to test.
Mine all work no problem. I live in a 4 bed detatched house with plugs all over.
A friend of mine actually gave a neighbour in an adjoining house one and it spoke to another in his house no problems...:)
#36
so if i connect one plug to my router down stairs and connect the other to my computer upstairs... will i be able to use the plug upstairs for both the computer and the x box 360 ???

i realli dont know how these work
#37
hallmufc
so if i connect one plug to my router down stairs and connect the other to my computer upstairs... will i be able to use the plug upstairs for both the computer and the x box 360 ???

i realli dont know how these work


Imagine the homeplugs as a way of using the house wiring as a ethernet cable..
As for the pc and xbox, the homeplug only has 1 port so you would need a small 4 port switch to plug the xbox and pc into then a lead from the switch to the homeplug.. i think :roll:
#38
hallmufc
so if i connect one plug to my router down stairs and connect the other to my computer upstairs... will i be able to use the plug upstairs for both the computer and the x box 360 ???
i realli dont know how these work


Yes, but it only has one rj45 socket, so you will need a cheap switch to split the output to two devices (xbox and PC). This option is cheaper than buying another powerline adapter in the wall socket next to the first (which would also work).
Something such as this: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132456
#39
can anyone tell me, do these plug directly into the sockets, and if they do, where does the ethernet cable then plug in, i have an old house and my sockets are low down, if the ethernet cables plug in underneath i'll have a problem.

cant tell from the pics
1 Like #40
R0gu3Tr4d3r
can anyone tell me, do these plug directly into the sockets, and if they do, where does the ethernet cable then plug in, i have an old house and my sockets are low down, if the ethernet cables plug in underneath i'll have a problem.

cant tell from the pics


A 2 second search revealed this :roll:
http://www.svmlemag.fr/files/270CP3-Lynsys.jpg
and
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/416tT9h8MsL._SS400_.jpg

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