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LOGIK 37LW427 37" HD Ready 1080p digital LCD TV £573 (or Less!)
Listed at £598 at Dixons
Use code: SAVE25 to get £25 off =£573

If you have an Egg Card get a further 5% OFF = £544.34

This must be the cheapest 1080p deal available today!

37inch LCD
Built in Freeview Tuner
2 x HDMI

Experience high-definition with the 37LW427 TV from Logik and enjoy watching TV on a whole new plane. With its impressive contrast level, the 37LW427 gives you a high-quality picture for your favourite television programmes. And, with the integrated digital tuner, you also have access to Freeview channels for even more entertainment choice. Equipped with 2 HDMI ports and a PC connection, the 37LW427 is a welcome addition to home entertainment.


Specifications:
Audio Output: Headphones socket
Manual: English
DVI Input: No
PC Input: Yes
Format: 16:9
TV text: No
Remote control: Yes
Screen size: 37" (94 cm)
Brightness (in cd/m²): 550
Contrast: 1200:1
Response time (in ms): Not provided
Resolution (horizontal x vertical - in pixels): 1080p
Viewing angle (horizontal/vertical - in°): 176
Audio Power: Information not provided
Noise reduction: Information not provided
Mono/Stereo Sound: Nicam stereo sound
Speakers: Yes
Connectivity : HDMI ports PC input 2 Scarts Headphones jack
SCART connectors: 2
HDMI Input: 2
Standard: PAL I
Double Tuner: In-built DTT tuner
Other functions: Parental timer Sleep timer
Accessories supplied: Remote, stand
Dimensions (mm): 944 x 113 x 676
Weight (kg):26.5

Egg Discount is now only 3% (Thanks to Monkey nuts 2 for the update) =£555.81
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#1
The usual Cold posters :roll:

Find me a cheaper 1080p 37inch TV :p

Comet have this http://www.comet.co.uk/cometbrowse/product.do?sku=391530

HITACHI L37V01 for £599 and using code HITACHI20 get it for £579 but it's a lower spec at 800:1 contrast ratio.

http://www.comet.co.uk/comet/dyn_imgs/prods/prod_large/391530.jpg
#2
Not able to vote for some reason but keeps hotting up as I type, must be telekanisis (or however you spell it!)

Not sure about the make, specs look good tho, shame about no dvi.
#3
great post heeeeeeatted
#4
very good deal, one of the only full HDTV models you can find under 40", voted hot.
#5
Great price but EGG give 3% cash back last I checked! (when I purchased my refurbished Ipod!)

:thumbsup:
#6
Ebuyer selling LG for less than this, not good buy IMO
#7
Link?

:?

Is it 1080p?
#8
Daz27
Ebuyer selling LG for less than this, not good buy IMO


but it will not be full HD.
#9
1080p @ 37" is a bit pointless, unless you plan to sit literally 5 feet away from it. Nice price if you do though.

If you aim to sit at 7+ feet, get a 720p plasma instead. The extra resolution is an irrelevance, even with 20/20 vision you'll never see it at those distances.
#10
I would go for something like a 40" Samsung at £599, not 1080p but as above poster states, do you really need 1080p ? pointless for most people....
#11
Richierea
I would go for something like a 40" Samsung at £599, not 1080p but as above poster states, do you really need 1080p ? pointless for most people....


Yep ! Agree ! Voted COLD !
#12
Having done some research, I have decided that 1080p is sooooo yesterday and I want tomorrow. Give me quad HD: http://www.trustedreviews.com/displays/news/2007/10/05/Gateway-Claims-First-Quad-HD-LCD/p1

:w00t:

"....the XHD3000 looks a reasonable match for the models already out there with the aforementioned 2560 x 1600 native resolution plus an defacto 1,000:1 contrast ratio, average 400cd/m2 brightness, zippy 6ms response time and wide 178 degree viewing angle.

Equally competent are the numerous connectivity options with HDMI, DVI, Component, Composite, S-Video and VGA all present along with a remarkable six USB ports and plethora of audio options. An IR remote is also bundled."

Because if you could't tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p on a 30 - 40 inch screen then it makes more sense to beef it up even more.

Sorry. Couldn't resist. :whistling:
#13
if it really is 1080p, it would be perfect for me to use as a monitor ;)
#14
i would want 1080P as ps3 and xbox 360 and bluray can output 1080P so i would not have to downscale, i like to see games and movies how there meant to be ;)
#15
hmsq82
if it really is 1080p, it would be perfect for me to use as a monitor ;)



I use 32" 720 for my monitor. Would love a 1080p, above 40" would be great but I'm sure 37" would be cool too. Depends on how big your house is!
#16
I'm not fully convinced about the argument that you cannot tell the difference between a 1080 and 720 resolution on a 37'' screen.

1080 provides over 2 million pixels and 720 provides less than 1 million pixels.

If 1 million pixels is the maximum we can view then why is everyone's digital camera at least 6 million pixels nowadays?
My mobile phone can provide pics at 1 million pixels and I can tell the difference when i'm using my (8MP) Canon EOS 40.

Someone want to convince me as this TV looks a good deal to me and I was after 1080 for my next tv. However if it wasted on TVs of less than 50'' then I need to forget about 1080 altogether?
#17
Can anyone find any specification that shows that it does indeed have a 1080 capable resolution ie 1920 x 1080 and not just some lesser set than can take a 1080 input?

We've all seen the 'HD ready' TVs that have normal TV resolutions.
Now i see a lot of 720 resolution TVs with 1080 stickers on them.

I couldn't find the screen resolution anywhere
#18
Rather save the money and buy a good quality 720p set to be honest.
#19
The Hitachi one is available for £564.51 from Digital Direct which is definately 1920 x 1080 and is cheaper, although delivery isn't included.

http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/produ...13468&ff=&ffi=
#20
Now expired. For half the price this tv is almost as good!

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132693
#21
GreenGem
I'm not fully convinced about the argument that you cannot tell the difference between a 1080 and 720 resolution on a 37'' screen.

1080 provides over 2 million pixels and 720 provides less than 1 million pixels.

I suspect you could if you were using it to go on the internet and reading small text from it, ironically it'll probably make other things look worse (if the source quality isn't as good as the TV's output then you'll notice the imperfections more).

GreenGem

If 1 million pixels is the maximum we can view then why is everyone's digital camera at least 6 million pixels nowadays?
My mobile phone can provide pics at 1 million pixels and I can tell the difference when i'm using my (8MP) Canon EOS 40.

past 2mp i doubt you'll notice much on screen, the rest would be down to the lenses etc for the quality of the shot - so fine if all you're doing is keeping your pics on the computer or uploading them to facebook.

the 5mp + sizes come in handy for when you're printing out your photos, you need 4-5mp if you're printing up to A4 size (there's a huge difference between displaying on screen and printing it out). :thinking:
#22
course you can tell the difference from 720P and 1080P, depending where your sitting, need to be like 5 feet away to see real benefit of a 37" set at 1080P thou.
#23
Daytrader
course you can tell the difference from 720P and 1080P, depending where your sitting, need to be like 5 feet away to see real benefit of a 37" set at 1080P thou.


Can you provide any facts to back this up?

An article perhaps?
#24
Daytrader
course you can tell the difference from 720P and 1080P, depending where your sitting, need to be like 5 feet away to see real benefit of a 37" set at 1080P thou.




moob
Can you provide any facts to back this up?

An article perhaps?


There are plenty of articles about the distance required to sit for each resoulution. And i would fully agree, for 1080p to be effective you need at least a 40" screen and be sitting approx 5 or 6 feet. Maybe ok if you're playing your PS3 close up, but generally can't see the point.

I'm looking at getting a 50" Plasma, and intend to sit 12 feet away, I have no intention of buying a 1080p panel when sitting at that distance.
I would pay the extra for a good quality 720p panel than waste money on 1080p.

People are only going for 1080p bacause it's the latest and greatest thing and they think you need it. Best to read up on all the options then decide.....
#25
Can you provide a link to one of these articles please?


Richierea
There are plenty of articles about the distance required to sit for each resoulution. And i would fully agree, for 1080p to be effective you need at least a 40" screen and be sitting approx 5 or 6 feet. Maybe ok if you're playing your PS3 close up, but generally can't see the point.
#26
GreenGem
Can you provide a link to one of these articles please?


Here's the first one from a quick search, there are plenty others that I have read plus in the recent Home Cinema magazines:

http://www.carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/

Extract from above article:

'the benefits of 1080p vs. 720p start to become apparent when closer than 9.8 feet and become full apparent at 6.5 feet. In my opinion, 6.5 feet is closer than most people will sit to their 50" plasma TV (even through the THX recommended viewing distance for a 50" screen is 5.6 ft). So, most consumers will not be able to see the full benefit of their 1080p TV'

And that is for a 50" screen, 37" would need to be even closer.

And this sums it up quite well:

'In conclusion: If you are a videophile with a properly setup viewing room, you should definitely be able to notice the resolution enhancement that 1080p brings. However, if you are an average consumer with a plasma on the far wall of your family room, you are not likely to be sitting close enough to notice any advantage. Check the chart above and use that to make your decision. Also, the Imaging Science Foundation (ISF) states the the most important aspects of picture quality are (in order): 1) contrast ratio, 2) color saturation, 3) color accuracy, 4) resolution. Resolution is 4th on the list and plasma is generally superior to LCD in all of the other areas (but much more prone to reflections/glare.) So pick your display size, then measure your seating distance, and then use the charts above to figure out if you would benefit from the larger screen size.
'
banned#27
Richierea
Here's the first one from a quick search, there are plenty others that I have read plus in the recent Home Cinema magazines:

http://www.carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/

Extract from above article:

'the benefits of 1080p vs. 720p start to become apparent when closer than 9.8 feet and become full apparent at 6.5 feet. In my opinion, 6.5 feet is closer than most people will sit to their 50" plasma TV (even through the THX recommended viewing distance for a 50" screen is 5.6 ft). So, most consumers will not be able to see the full benefit of their 1080p TV'

And that is for a 50" screen, 37" would need to be even closer.

And this sums it up quite well:

'In conclusion: If you are a videophile with a properly setup viewing room, you should definitely be able to notice the resolution enhancement that 1080p brings. However, if you are an average consumer with a plasma on the far wall of your family room, you are not likely to be sitting close enough to notice any advantage. Check the chart above and use that to make your decision. Also, the Imaging Science Foundation (ISF) states the the most important aspects of picture quality are (in order): 1) contrast ratio, 2) color saturation, 3) color accuracy, 4) resolution. Resolution is 4th on the list and plasma is generally superior to LCD in all of the other areas (but much more prone to reflections/glare.) So pick your display size, then measure your seating distance, and then use the charts above to figure out if you would benefit from the larger screen size.
'

Great advice. Now, if only manufacturers would quote the correct contrast ratio rather then hyping it up with this nonsense called dynamic contrast (Samsung spring quickly to mind here with their quoted 15000:1 contrasts!).
#28
csiman
Great advice. Now, if only manufacturers would quote the correct contrast ratio rather then hyping it up with this nonsense called dynamic contrast (Samsung spring quickly to mind here with their quoted 15000:1 contrasts!).


Too true, one magazine that measured the ratio of a Samsung panel quoted as 15000:1 was actually 700:1
#29
Thanks for that csiman.

I have put to use his distance resolution spreadsheet.
http://www.carltonbale.com/home-theater/home-theater-calculator/

This shows that to get full benefit for a 37'' 1080p screen I'd have to be 5 feet from the screen.
My chair is currently 6 feet away, so i'd need to move it a foot closer.
Although this is for full benefit, so i'll still get some benefit up to 7.2 feet away after which I might as well have a 720.

Thanks again for the link to the spreadsheet.
#30
GreenGem
Thanks for that csiman.

I have put to use his distance resolution spreadsheet.
http://www.carltonbale.com/home-theater/home-theater-calculator/

This shows that to get full benefit for a 37'' 1080p screen I'd have to be 5 feet from the screen.
My chair is currently 6 feet away, so i'd need to move it a foot closer.
Although this is for full benefit, so i'll still get some benefit up to 7.2 feet away after which I might as well have a 720.

Thanks again for the link to the spreadsheet.


like i said 5 feet for 37" panel and u see the 1080P in its full glory so im right to you doubters, thx

4.8 feet for viewing Distance for HDTV(Fully resolved 1080i; 1920 x 1080)
#31
here's the THX standard the best to use, even has a table to work it out for you http://www.myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html
#32
I currently sit 21 feet away (whilst using it as a tv), but I can notice the difference between 720 and standard tv so I'm assuming that even at 21 feet I'd still notice the difference between 720 and 1080. Although the only time I ever get hd is when using it as a pc screen. At 21 feet you think you wouldn't notice the difference between 720 and 1080 when used as a pc screen?
#33
Sorry I doubted Arfster & yourself Daytrader.

You have been vindicated ;)

I like to check these things though as some people spout off what a bloke in a pub told them.

I'm boyed by the fact that you can tell the difference up to 7.2 feet away as that covers 2 out of 3 seats on the couch :p

Benjimoron I'd expect to be able to tell the difference too but apparently at 10.8 feet on a 37'' screen and 12.3 feet on a 42'' screen they all look the same.
#34
GreenGem

Benjimoron I'd expect to be able to tell the difference too but apparently at 10.8 feet on a 37'' screen and 12.3 feet on a 42'' screen they all look the same.



It's got to be lies, I'm going to buy one just to prove you all wrong!!!

EDIT - And WHO sits just 6 feet away from their tv??? I have a fairly small lounge and a 32" tv, I'm not likely to get a tv much bigger for my current lounge as it would look silly! So who has a 10 foot lounge and a 42" telly?

And why is it 6 feet and 10 foot? Why not 6 foot and 10 feet?
#35
Benjimoron
And WHO sits just 6 feet away from their tv???


Which is why 1080p in most cases is a waste of time....
#36
The Deal is a bit late for me, I bought a LE37 R88 Samsung about 6 weeks ago, but the thread is still a very interesting read. The contrast ratio on my TV is supposed to be 8000:1.(with it being samsung, this might not really be the case then) It gives an excellent picture on Sky sd which surprised me really, but I only really bought it to watch films and footy for when I can afford to get Sky HD
#37
Richierea
Which is why 1080p in most cases is a waste of time....



Surely by the same merit that makes 720 over sd pointless at more than about 15 feet? I can notice the difference and I sit at at least 21 feet.
#38
GreenGem
Sorry I doubted Arfster & yourself Daytrader.

You have been vindicated ;)

I like to check these things though as some people spout off what a bloke in a pub told them.

I'm boyed by the fact that you can tell the difference up to 7.2 feet away as that covers 2 out of 3 seats on the couch :p

Benjimoron I'd expect to be able to tell the difference too but apparently at 10.8 feet on a 37'' screen and 12.3 feet on a 42'' screen they all look the same.


no problem mate i just dont want you to think a 1080P screen is not needed, there made for a reason you know ;)
#39
Benjimoron
Surely by the same merit that makes 720 over sd pointless at more than about 15 feet? I can notice the difference and I sit at at least 21 feet.


your right really m8, it is a waste if you are going to be sitting to far away, but my friends and there little kids like to sit around the tv when playing on the ps3 or watching bluray animation movie's not that they worry if its 1080P or not hehe, i also play ps3 up close thou.
#40
Benjimoron
Surely by the same merit that makes 720 over sd pointless at more than about 15 feet? I can notice the difference and I sit at at least 21 feet.


I think the thing there is that the difference between SD and 720p to the eye is quite large, but the difference between 720p and 1080p to the eye is just too small, maybe on paper it looks good, but thats it.

Another thread just started on AV forums may give some more info:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=634401

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