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Yet another "esoteric" (c) Admin device. This time it is an Internet WiFi radio from PCWorld. This radio is pretty much the same as Bush TR2015WIFI, Morphy Richards Internet Radio, Acoustic Energy Wi-Fi Internet Radio and MagicBox Imp. All of them are using Reciva engine.
This one is probably the cheapest of all these. Its looks is a bit on ugly side (at least thats how I see it) but do you really look at your radio? :)
Anyway, this "radio" is able to stream music off internet using Reciva database (roughly 5K stations at the moment). It can also play music off your PC hard disk (some networking skills may be required).
NOTE: You must have wireless router (or to be able to set up Ad-hoc wireless network) to use this device.

It looks like the cheapest way to get it is to use [email protected] feature. Do not forget about Quidco (3% in case of [email protected]).
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#1
Nice Idea but it only plays in Mono see below:-

Specification for this Logik IR100http://www.pcworld.co.uk/store_doc/images/spacer.gif
Audio Quality Mono
::Interface WiFi
::Aerial type Indoor
::MP3 functionality
::LCD Display
::Headphone Socket
::Colour Black
::Mains lead supplied
::Clock
#2
Agree, but none of standalone Reciva-based WiFi radios are playing stereo for some reason. AFAIK, only "add-on" devices like Philips SL50 for example are able to play stereo.
1 Like #3
it is mono in that there's only a single speaker - like some of the DAB units.

but output via headphone jack is stereo iirc, so hookup to your amp this way and output will be stereo :)
#4
Thanks for that, driver8. However, I'd rather like to have proper Line Out jack rather than headphone's one to plug it to HiFi.
#5
Now £49.99
#6
still around... thanks Kommunist :)
#7
Hi, This is a good price for an internet radio. Liked the idea of this whilst it was priced at £99.99 but thought that it was too expensive. £49.99 is more appealing. Worth noting though that something like this ideally requires an unlimited broadband connection as streaming audio will no doubt break the barriers of download allowances that a lot of ISPs stipulate. Cannot remember how many Gb 1-hours worth of listening is equivalent to but it's surprising how much it is.

HTH.

Voted hot.
#8
but be careful. many of the "better" stations are closing down due to the royalties dispute going on
#9
Still around.. thanks to vibeone for the pointer :)
1 Like #10
The Logik IR100 has now gone down to £39.99 if you reserve online and collect from store. Go via Quidco and you'll even get an extra quid off too!

Bought one last week, and am extremely pleased with it. Such a fantastic gadget for under £40. Yes, there's the limitations of internet and wireless, but all in all chuffed to bits with it.
#11
Can anyone who has bought one give me a quick review of the build quality and more importantly the qaulity of the headphone output as I would never use the built in speaker, just looking for an internet radio to hookup to my surround sound amplifire/receiver as I can't get any DAB reception now I have come back from uni :-(

thanks :)


EDIT: I take it you can get BBC6 music, XFM, planet rock on this right ?
#12
Lexeus
Can anyone who has bought one give me a quick review of the build quality and more importantly the quality of the headphone output as I would never use the built in speaker, just looking for an internet radio to hookup to my surround sound amplifier/receiver as I can't get any DAB reception now I have come back from uni :-(

thanks :)


EDIT: I take it you can get BBC6 music, XFM, planet rock on this right ?
Hi Lexeus. I can certainly say that the exterior build quality seems to be very good indeed. It's a solidly constructed box, with firm buttons and dials. The plastic casing is made of a thick type of perspex, and has a nice metal edging to finish it off.

I personally don't have it connected up with the headphone socket though, so perhaps someone else can advise you on that one. Obviously the unit's main wow factor is how many stations you can actually receive on it, rather than the audio quality. I'd say that most stations have an acceptable audio quality, ok for background music etc, and you seem to get away with it through the small speaker. The bit rate on some channels is quite low, so perhaps they'd sound a bit naff through a big audio system (but then again that's more a limitation of the internet and whatever bitrate the radio stations decide to broadcast, rather than the radio itself).
#13
Although the DSG websites state that £39.99 is a 'Web Exclusive PrIce', and the in store price is £49.99 I don't think this is always the case.

In the Shrewsbury branch of Currys Digital they were on sale at the lower price, and the salesman even gave me a print out as confirmation.
#14
Do you mean they were selling it at 39.99 or even cheaper?
#15
Kommunist
Do you mean they were selling it at 39.99 or even cheaper?
Sorry if I didn't make myself clear... the price they were selling it for in the store was £39.99... and they had quite a pile of them!
#16
Ah... thanks! :)
I am hoping that they'll discount it even further as IR100 is going to be discontinued. Once it'll reach 20 quid I'll buy a few. :)
#17
Woow, thanks for bringing this type of radio to my attention which I didn't know even existed.I reserved one from Currys last night and picked it up just now for £39.99 ,nevermind quidco as the transaction has to complete on line and I chose to pick it up from a store. It took me 2 mins to set it up to work with my wireless router. It is just a fantastic tool. It will be great for my mum who has little chance of using a computer. This one is really easy to use and setup. So from taking it out of the box + intuition and a few glances to the user manual , took me in total just about 5 mins to get me listening to the first station.:w00t: So after testing I shall order BETHERE broadband for my mum since as it has no cap limit on download! Internet radio @20kbi /s works out to be 72 MByte an hour! Umm, I may get a couple more when the prices come down. Here is a useful technical link to this radio for those who are technically minded. http://logikir100.tripod.com/Logik.htm#Introduction
#18
Lexeus
Can anyone who has bought one give me a quick review of the build quality and more importantly the qaulity of the headphone output as I would never use the built in speaker, just looking for an internet radio to hookup to my surround sound amplifire/receiver as I can't get any DAB reception now I have come back from uni :-(

thanks :)


EDIT: I take it you can get BBC6 music, XFM, planet rock on this right ?


The build quality is 80-90% in piano black, quality worthy of its initial price tag at around £90 last year. It is £40 so a bargain for this quality and function. The sound quality of internet radio will be between 20kbits/s to 64kbit/s which means that audio electronics will be basic. It is a waste of money to put in hi-fi audio electronics on radio quality sound. I found the sound perfectly acceptable for a portable radio. I have not tried the audio connection to Hi Fi yet. But then again with compressed radio at 20kbits/s is about 3 kBytes/s you cannot really expect any where even near MP3 quality at 128kbits/s. So my conclusion is the constraint on sound is the radio source and is unlikely to be the headphone output.
There is no ON/OFF switch nor a soft reset button nor a hard reset button (though there is a factory reset, but you can only use this when the device is working). So at the moment in the unlikely event something goes wrong then the reset is by way of taking the power plug off. Hope that this works for all system hangs! The standby button takes the display and sound off but it is still working on standby and it consumes about 13 watts of electricity which equates about 114 kWhrs per year or about £11 electricty @ 10p per Kwhr when continuously on standby. When working it uses about 2 or 3 watts more since the speakers are rated at 4 watts only at full whack. Therefore the conclusion is that if you are green and want to save some money then you can save put £8/9 of electricity per year by switching it off when you don't use it. Then you have to weigh this against device increasing risk of premature failure by switching the device on/off as opposed to leave it on all the time. This risk is small but we don't know how small this is as normally well built devices will have circuit to absorb the surge in electricity in switching on/off.
#19
I reserved radio last night and picked it up from my local branch of Currys this lunchtime. Then the quico earnings came in just now £1.40 which is a surprise! I chose to pick up from my local store and paid in cash at the store! :w00t: I really didn't think I would get another as I completed my transaction at the store by paying there.
#20
I picked one up at PC World High Wycombe earlier this week at £39.99 less Quidco. Really pleased with it - Feels like a quality product and a very intuitive interface. At just under £40 it's a definite bargain.
#21
After a few hours of use:-

1) As there is no on/off switch, I had taken the plug off and plugged back in. The radio would hang and not start up if you inserted the power plug back in within 1 or 2 mins (some times much longer) after pulling in out. Presumably the buffer memory is still holding on some old stuff which needs the capacitors to discharge completely to clear off. This means that for short periods of "OFF" , it is probably better to put it on standby.

2) (This function is not described in the paper user manual but it makes the radio even more user friendly.) I have updated the firmware from level 133 to 158. This offers "my streams" functionas a new function. This means that you can add URLs of audio streams to your radio's memory. When you go on to http://www.reciva.com/ web site you can specific which URL that you like to hear streaming audio. Before you do this you have to go to on your radio and your radio with the reciva web site and read off the radio's serial number (also under ) then with these two sets of alphanumerics you can register your radio with the reciva web site. Thereafter you can set up your favourite radio stations and your audio streams. Then magically within 10 mins these are downloaded from their web site to your radio when you press . Then in the menu an extra option under called and within these your input radio stations plus the audio streams! Fantastic, I can now customise which stations that I want beyond the 5 that I can select on the 5 preset buttons. This folder function is a really nice surprise!

3) There is as mentioned by people, a very slight transformer hum when the sound is really quiet. But once the radio is on it is not even noticeable unless there is a long quiet period.

4) Test the functions of the radio as much as possible when new as I know that 0.01% of these machines do suffer failure during first "run in", and upgrade the firmware if you need the
functionality. Caution when upgrading the firmware and not to cut off the power. The reciva web site states that the firmware could take up to 20 mins to upgrade. In the case of my IR100 it loaded the new firmware in 5 mins and then it rebooted but hung with the blank screen of death. Still I waited for another 15 mins and when nothing was going to happen then I pulled the plug out to reset it. Remember to wait for 2 mins before inserting the power plug again as otherwise the memory buffers still has n=old stuff and will hang the boot up process. If you are scared of upgrading firmware then you can still have the folder and specify your favourite stations as standard. is only useful when you need to specify stream and these (radio) streams are not already on the list of radio stations.
5) There is no hard (stop) reset button which means that if the radio ever got stuck there is no means by which to get it to the original factory state! May be it does not need to. The factory reset is only available from the software menu system.


All in all I am really happy with this radio (or rather my mum will be as she does not use a computer at all).:whistling: It is a single speaker unit, however it is perfect as it has a small footprint. The speaker is 4 watts and can punch out quite a loud sound (for those who are used to using those 1 watt per channel portable stereos will definitely find this 4 watts much louder).
#22
£39.99 is a price i'm too tempted to pass up on :)
Reserved. Thanks.
#23
After a day's use and having read the https://www.reciva.com/ forum about this IR100. The radio's freeze or hang problem at boot up is a too common event for comfort. It has happened to me many times already and I am barely 24 hrs from purchase. To prevent power on hangs it is wise to leave the unit on standby rather than switching off at the mains. However I shall continue to switch it off at the mains as it uses 13 watts of electricity on standby. However even at £40 it is still worth a gamble as I am banging on that its alternative is £100 now albeit possibly better. The guarantee is 12 months. Hopefully the £100 units now will be around £50 in 12 months' time. So with the savings of £60 now I can put this away for its replacement later if it went wrong. Should it come down to something like £20 or £30 it is worth another gamble!!
#24
13watts is no big deal. Sky+ uses 20watts on standby. I'll probably leave mine on standby during the day and switch off at night. So far, i'm pleased with the radio. It was a sinch to set up, although I have not figured out the upnp connection from WMP11 for streaming my MP3s. Not too bothered though, as I can just play those from my iPod thru some portable speakers.
A pleasing purchase. Rep given to Jilawrence for the heads up on the price reduction :)
#25
Now 44.99 from Currys website (collect from store only). Just ordered one :)

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