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Logitech Webcam C100: USB Video Class (UVC) £9.97 @ Tesco

£9.97 @ Tesco Direct
This one is a bit of a nerdy one, but I bought this webcam in store for my desktop. The reason its such a bargain is that it is a USB Video Class camera, not one of those cheap cameras that needs rand… Read More
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This one is a bit of a nerdy one, but I bought this webcam in store for my desktop. The reason its such a bargain is that it is a USB Video Class camera, not one of those cheap cameras that needs random drivers.. You plug it in your computer and it works... Its fantastic if you use Linux, and I would imagine it will probably work on a Mac (But you probably already have a webcam).

So for a super compatible webcam, i think its a steal.. However I had to battle the Tesco staff a bit to get the half price offer in store.
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#1
Good deal, but why is this one better than the Logitech C120 VGA Webcam at the same price?

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.208-6225.aspx
#2
Logitech C120 requires drivers, but the OP's is generic.

R0gu3Tr4d3r
Good deal, but why is this one better than the Logitech C120 VGA Webcam at the same price?

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.208-6225.aspx


Edited By: snapdragon on Sep 12, 2010 13:11: .
#3
tech specs on logitech website suggest they are both UVC...

C120...

Plug-and-play setup (UVC)
Quality CMOS webcam
Video capture: 640 x 480 pixels
Still image capture: up to 1.3 megapixels (software enhanced)
Frame rate: Up to 30 frames per second (with recommended system)
Hi-Speed USB 2.0 certified
Manual focus
Universal clip fits notebooks, LCD or CRT monitors

C100....

Plug-and-play setup (UVC)
Video capture: Up to 640 x 480 pixels
Photos: Up to 1.3 megapixels (software enhanced)
Frame rate: Up to 30 frames per second (with recommended system)
Hi-Speed USB 2.0 certified
Fixed focus
Universal clip fits notebooks, LCD or CRT monitors
#4
I have to agree, C120 is better spec and arguably looks better, so cold for this one, hot for the other :)
#5
Anyone know if this or the c120 will work with win 7 ultimate (64) as I already have 3 webcams that are fine on xp but not with windows 7 (64bit)
#6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mttfkui8nNs

Youtube video above.

Decent for a tenner.
#7
bboy71
Anyone know if this or the c120 will work with win 7 ultimate (64) as I already have 3 webcams that are fine on xp but not with windows 7 (64bit)

it would appear so...

http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/435/6065?section=downloads&bit=&osid=14
#8
They are both decent so purchase whichever dudes!
#9
UVC does not imply that drivers are not required. All USB devices that communicates with the CPU requires a driver, otherwise how would the CPU know the set of commands required for the data to be sent bi-directionally?

UVC specifies that the camera is capable of streaming video (which incidentally, is via the use of drivers).
#10
Just noticed that amazon are doing the c120 for £7.99 Inc super saver delivery if it's of intrest to anyone
#11
Also means it's compatible with the PS3
#12
richb93
Also means it's compatible with the PS3

Correct, it is compatible with PS3 but that isn't what UVC means. It will be compatible with any device that meets UVC specifications.
#13
Bought the C120 at Bradford Great Horton, they had a few on the shelves priced at £19.97, but one in a seperate section for clearance at £9.97, I guess they will all scan at the correct price of £9.97.

Cheers OP.
#14
ElliottC
UVC does not imply that drivers are not required. All USB devices that communicates with the CPU requires a driver, otherwise how would the CPU know the set of commands required for the data to be sent bi-directionally?

UVC specifies that the camera is capable of streaming video (which incidentally, is via the use of drivers).


UVC means the camera follows a standard protocol that all current operating systems support natively, so no, they do not need specific manufacturer drivers. Obviously any device needs drivers at some level, when someone says drivers aren't needed they just mean that the OS will have inbuilt drivers supporting such a device already.

Edited By: iDragon on Sep 12, 2010 16:20: Clarification.
#15
Has anyone tried the C120 with Linux?
#16
iDragon
ElliottC
UVC does not imply that drivers are not required. All USB devices that communicates with the CPU requires a driver, otherwise how would the CPU know the set of commands required for the data to be sent bi-directionally?UVC specifies that the camera is capable of streaming video (which incidentally, is via the use of drivers).
UVC means the camera follows a standard protocol that all current operating systems support natively, so no, they do not need specific manufacturer drivers. Obviously any device needs drivers at some level, when someone says drivers aren't needed they just mean that the OS will have inbuilt drivers supporting such a device already.

- In Windows, the drivers are in built from XP SP2 and upwards, otherwise drivers are required to be manually installed.
- Some Linux drivers are provided via manual install.
- Solaris drivers available via manual install prior to certain versions.
- PS3 drivers added via firmware update.
- MAC OS drivers provided indigenous to the OS.

You cannot simply connect a USB device and make API calls to access data without drivers. The OS cannot magically send and receive data bidirectionally without a layer between the USB device and the OS. No, not all current OS support UVC natively (I see Fedora struggles and I am not referring to his tennis skills of late). Those that are not supported requires extra drivers to be installed manually. Those that do support UVC have the drivers indigenous to the OS. Drivers are required, whether they are inbuilt or manually installed.




Edited By: ElliottC on Sep 12, 2010 16:40: .
#17
Anyone confirm Ubuntu compatibility?
#18
ElliottC
(I see Fedora struggles and I am not referring to his tennis skills of late)

Even the latest build? UVC has been in the Linux kernel for some time.

ElliottC
UVC does not imply that drivers are not required. All USB devices that communicates with the CPU requires a driver, otherwise how would the CPU know the set of commands required for the data to be sent bi-directionally?

Technically, the driver layer would be between the USB and the Southbridge, not the CPU.
#19
heavywater
Technically, the driver layer would be between the USB and the Southbridge, not the CPU.

Mmmm, arguable. Technically the layer is between CPU and Southbridge. After all, the API calls have to be processed by the CPU and API calls are made to the chipset to communicate with the USB bus. The same question to you "How would the CPU know the set of commands required for the data to be sent bi-directionally?"


Regarding UVC in Linux, there is only partial support with some devices as per:

http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/

Regarding Fedora, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterWebcamSupport

I'm not sure how well supported this particular model is within Fedora, or indeed Ubuntu as requested earlier but it is evident that indigenous support can be flaky within Linux.


Edited By: ElliottC on Sep 12, 2010 18:24: .
#20
Brilliant display of irrelevant pedantry from ElliottC. These webcams are both good deals though.
#21
leighonigar
Brilliant display of irrelevant pedantry from ElliottC. These webcams are both good deals though.

It is absolutely true that Linux support is flaky. Separate drivers are required in some cases so it is not pedantic to mention this!

Edited By: ElliottC on Sep 12, 2010 18:31: .
#22
piginabox
Anyone confirm Ubuntu compatibility?

Logitech C100 has been reported to be compatible with Ubuntu 10.04 (although the actual model being C100 is indeterminate).

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams

C120 is purported to be incompatible with Ubuntu 9 as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasLogitech.
This may also rule out C100 compatibility with Ubuntu 9.


Edited By: ElliottC on Sep 12, 2010 18:37: .
#23
leighonigar
Brilliant display of irrelevant pedantry from ElliottC. These webcams are both good deals though.


Not a good deal if they're not compatible with your OS!
Cheers ElliottC for the heads up.

Edited By: piginabox on Sep 12, 2010 21:36: typo
#24
Works with Mepis 8.5 Linux without the need for any additional drivers. It also works with Skype Video when Mepis is the OS.
#25
C120 works fantastic with windows 7 64bit, I got the C120 for about £8 from mymemory and got 10% quidco on it. It's infinately better than the microsoft vx1000 I had before. The software is fantastic and really easy to use to put video's up on youtube.

Get the c120 £7.95 +Quidco http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Webcams/Logitech/Logitech-C120-Webcam
#26
piginabox
Anyone confirm Ubuntu compatibility?


I can confirm it works a treat under Ubuntu, on my ps3 and anything else I fancy connecting it too...

Jeez. Thats some epic pedantry there ElliotC X) The only reason that I mentioned is that UVC web-cams are much more compatible. Call it a public service announcement..

As quoted from your article posting

The USB Device Class Definition for Video Devices, or USB Video Class, defines video streaming functionality on the Universal Serial Bus. Much like nearly all mass storage devices (USB flash disks, external SATA disk enclosures, ...) can be managed by a single driver because they conform to the USB Mass Storage specification, UVC compliant peripherals only need a generic driver.


Generic drivers are good.. Means that is the driver lacks the support it can be simply written in by anyone that has a wish to... No more of that 'New version of windows, your old driver won't work.. The company went bust' or the even more annoying 'We won't write a Linux driver, because our specifications are super double secret'

Rock on!

Edited By: MrFerret on Sep 13, 2010 14:48: Spelling
#27
- In Windows, the drivers are in built from XP SP2 and upwards, otherwise drivers are required to be manually installed.

Does anyone know about a driver for Windows 2000 ?

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