Mac Pro 2X2.26GHz Nehalem Quad-Core 6GB/640GB+ ATI Radeon HD 4870 512mb - £2298.85 @ MacWarehouse - HotUKDeals
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Apple Mac Pro 2 2.26 GHz Nehalem Quad-Core processors + standard 6GB of RAM.

However this has the top of the range ATI Graphics card.

If you spec up this machine on the apple web site it comes in at £2659.

That's over a £300 pound saving, and then don't forget your 5% Quidco making this a more than £400 off saving !!

They have 5 left, may be a mis-price but as I'm typing this on one of them they definitely deliver.

Note price is 1999 + VAT
Also their other Mac Pro CTO models seem cheaper than Apple, didn't check in too much details as I don't have the extra '000s
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#1
You seem to have forgotten the VAT which makes the price £2300 inc.

Still not a bad price for a serious piece of kit.
#2
Both prices are ex VAT.

1999 vs 2312, that's a bargain

Updated accordingly to be inc VAT
banned#3
just out of curiosity what is a Mac Pro CTO?
I currently have a imac and was thinking of upgrading to a mac pro.
#4
Holy Cow !!:thumbsup:
#5
It's a non-standard build, customised to order.

Except it's ready in a shop.... don't really understand it myself.

I think it's any Mac that isn't totally standard from Apple. This has the ATI card instead of the Nvidia.

I'm very happy with mine :)
#6
Hot from me
banned#7
Bound to get all the Apple fanboys into a lather.
#8
Pricewise how does this compare to a WIndows PC of the same spec ? Is it water (or brand) cooled for this price ? :)
#9
afroylnt
Pricewise how does this compare to a WIndows PC of the same spec ? Is it water (or brand) cooled for this price ? :)


You don't want to know. You've gotta love Apple Tax. :whistling:

Edit - sorry, I didn't see it was a 2xquad core - that's a beast!
#10
afroylnt
Pricewise how does this compare to a WIndows PC of the same spec ? Is it water (or brand) cooled for this price ? :)


Actually, spec a Dell with the same Processors and GFX card and you're up past £2200 inc VAT.

Oh and it's quiet as a mouse.

Workstations aren't cheap, whoever makes them.
#11
deasmi
It's a non-standard build, customised to order.

Except it's ready in a shop.... don't really understand it myself.

I think it's any Mac that isn't totally standard from Apple. This has the ATI card instead of the Nvidia.

I'm very happy with mine :)


Cancelled bulk order maybe?

SHOWMAN36
Bound to get all the Apple fanboys into a lather.


I doubt it, this is a workstation for business users not the usual apple tradeoff between style and substance.
#12
Actually looks like a good price - so Apple well done - see you can do it for PC equipment...
#13
Just out of curiousity..... can i run Windows Xp on this?
#14
Dual socket:

CPUs ~ £300 each.
Motherboard ~£275
RAM ~£126

Single socket:

CPU ~£225
Mobo ~£150
RAM ~£62

So the difference excluding any upgrades required for a larger case or more powerful power supply are:

CPU: £600 - 225 = £375
Mobo: £275 – 150 = £125
RAM: £126 – 62 = £64
Total = £564

You can build a single socket Nehalem system for about £800 with decent components, a HD 4870 and a Windows License.
So a dual socket system comes in at ~£1,400.

I’m not saying this is a bad deal for what it is but that’s a massive mark-up when you look at the component costs. No wonder I’ve heard Mac fans are complaining about the pricing on the Nehalem Macs.
#15
crazymonkey
Just out of curiousity..... can i run Windows Xp on this?


I believe the answer is yes, if you install Boot Camp.

Chris
#16
Agharta
Dual socket:
You can build a single socket Nehalem system for about £800 with decent components, a HD 4870 and a Windows License.
So a dual socket system comes in at ~£1,400.

I’m not saying this is a bad deal for what it is but that’s a massive mark-up when you look at the component costs. No wonder I’ve heard Mac fans are complaining about the pricing on the Nehalem Macs.


You cant compare white box goods with supported and warrantied. The Mac Pro is a 'workstation', once you understand what that is, you wont be buying an ASUS beast master hyper fighting II turbo EX anime porn edition IV motherboard etc.
#17
evapor8
I believe the answer is yes, if you install Boot Camp.

Chris


Correct, it will run Windows very well.

Personally I would still wait, I can see another refresh in these very soon, higher spec and slightly cheaper.

These are unique and expensive processors and haven't had long in the market, so the premium price your paying supplements Apple getting them first.

Good deal, if you go through the Apple Store £2446 I think it works out at with edu. discount.


abaxas
You cant compare white box goods with supported and warrantied. The Mac Pro is a 'workstation', once you understand what that is, you wont be buying an ASUS beast master hyper fighting II turbo EX anime porn edition IV motherboard etc.


LoooooL made me laugh.
#18
abaxas
You cant compare white box goods with supported and warrantied. The Mac Pro is a 'workstation', once you understand what that is, you wont be buying an ASUS beast master hyper fighting II turbo EX anime porn edition IV motherboard etc.

I’m not comparing them I’m just showing what it would cost to buy decent components to build a similar system but with Windows to give an idea of how much the support, warranty etc costs.

With so many PC deals these days it’s actually not possible to build the same system yourself for less so I was curious what the differential is here. £900 is a hell of a large premium but for this class of machine it’s probably pretty normal for Windows or Apple computers.
#19
Even if you built the closest Equivalent Nehalem PC system, you still wouldn't get the same processors, thats where all the ££ is in these machines.

Doesn't really jusitfy the cost in my mind (although they are blisteringly fast) but becuase they are 'special' processors your going to pay the premium for them.
#20
Celticsun
Even if you built the closest Equivalent Nehalem PC system, you still wouldn't get the same processors, thats where all the ££ is in these machines.

They’re just stock Intel Xeon CPUs, nothing special. Apple had access to them before they were released to other manufacturers but they’ve been available for a while now.
Scan have this CPU for £301 – Xeon E5520.
#21
Agharta
They’re just stock Intel Xeon CPUs, nothing special. Apple had access to them before they were released to other manufacturers but they’ve been available for a while now.
Scan have this CPU for £301 – Xeon E5520.


I stand corrected, I was under the impression they weren't stock.

But that still explains the price of the MacPro, Apple got them first and paid a premium for them which is then passed down to the customer, so untill they have used up stocks or the initial contractual price from Intel changes, they are still gonna bang these out at a 25% overpriced mark up.
#22
Celticsun
I stand corrected, I was under the impression they weren't stock.
But that still explains the price of the MacPro, Apple got them first and paid a premium for them which is then passed down to the customer, so untill they have used up stocks or the initial contractual price from Intel changes, they are still gonna bang these out at a 25% overpriced mark up.

Who knows how much Apple paid for them! Even if they paid a premium I doubt they still do or it was that much. This class of machine usually has much larger margins as it’s aimed at Businesses.
#23
I take it back - it is overpriced after all ........if only their kit was as good as their marketing :? (their marketing is just superb...........)
#24
abaxas;5244998
You cant compare white box goods with supported and warrantied. The Mac Pro is a 'workstation', once you understand what that is, you wont be buying an ASUS beast master hyper fighting II turbo EX anime porn edition IV motherboard etc.


Yet this has a consumer graphics card (which matches up with your consumer comments) not a workstation graphics card so not really that great a workstation after all. Unless the warranty set up is different from the consumer models the lack of onsite support weakens it as a workstation as well.

Putting that aside this seems a strange spec having two relatively low speed processors in this configuration, the Nehalem is a native quad core and supports hyperthreading which means a single processor is already extremely capable at multithreading. For most workstation use in practice I'd think a single faster processor would be the better choice, two slower CPUs would be better suited to a server as it will normally be running a large number threads.

John
#25
Cold for me. It can't decide whether it wants to be a proper workstation or some glorified word processing rig.

Thats sure to get a few maccie turtle neck wearing fans sweating and shaking with rage. :thumbsup:

Torch the PC, sell the family car to buy a mac and then want to install XP. Brilliant.

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