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Just purchased one of these after getting them to lower the price until tonight. A great price, well below competition JL - £2,499, Apple - £2,499 - Amazon, £2420.

Only available until tonight. Use the code 'HEAT40' to bring the price down from £2199 to £2159.

Cash back also available - 2% Quidco for example.
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Oh my word I wouldn't spend £10 with dabs yet alone 2,159 of them!

And no optical drive? Cold ;)
#3
£2098 when bought through NUS extra.

Direct from Apple too.
1 Like #4
that's an expensive waste paper bin
#5
Dont listen to them. Amazing piece of kit. If I had money and need of using desktop this would be my first choice. But now I use only 15" retina display...
#6
Thanks Steluca5, not everyone does have a student card. But I do, so going to order from there.
2 Likes #7
Where the hell are students getting a spare 2k from!? Other than a student loan or parents I can't begin to imagine how I'd ever have conjured up the spare change back when I was a student. I thought I'd done well to afford a netbook! :(
#8
When I was in uni I worked alongside my studies, if I hadnt been running a car I probably could have afforded this if I had a need for it. Not all students rely on parents as most can't.
#9
Whilst a great machine on its own the price you pay for what's in it is crazy. Apple-tax at its finest.
#10
abucd4
When I was in uni I worked alongside my studies, if I hadnt been running a car I probably could have afforded this if I had a need for it. Not all students rely on parents as most can't.


I did too but after rent, travel, extra course costs and equipment etc were covered, there certainly was nowhere near 2k left spare at any point during uni that I'd be able to spend on a computer! Perhaps rent is significantly lower in certain parts of the country, I dunno..
#11
MrBThatsMe
Where the hell are students getting a spare 2k from!? Other than a student loan or parents I can't begin to imagine how I'd ever have conjured up the spare change back when I was a student. I thought I'd done well to afford a netbook! :(


They're not students they're so called 'graduates' from yonks ago (recent deal for NUS)
#12
No specifications listed. Cold.
#13
Apple tax - built a PC that will spank this every which way for £1050, with a better processor (i7 4770k) more memory (16Gb 2400MHz DDR3), more storage (250Gb Samsung Evo 840 SSD and a 3Tb 6Gb/s WD HDD), Better graphics card, 850W Gold rated power supply, liquid cooling for great overclocking potential and lots of USB3 connectivity. Everything in it is made by ASUS or Corsair. I know plenty of people prefer OSX to Win 8.1, but I would rather have mine over the Apple and bank half the money.

256Gb storage on a modern computer is nowt these days - SSD for OS and programs, and a decent sized HDD for storage is the way to go.

Edited By: monkeyhanger75 on Jul 30, 2014 18:40
#14
redsnappa
No specifications listed. Cold.

Here you go:



Product Description
Apple Mac Pro - Xeon E5 3.7 GHz - Monitor : none.

Type
Personal computer

Form Factor
Tower

Localisation
English / United Kingdom

Processor
1 x Intel Xeon E5 / 3.7 GHz ( 3.9 GHz ) ( Quad-Core )

Processor Main Features
Hyper-Threading Technology, Intel Turbo Boost Technology

Cache Memory
10 MB L3 Cache

Cache Per Processor
10 MB

RAM
12 GB (installed) / 64 GB (max) - DDR3 SDRAM - ECC - 1866 MHz

Hard Drive
1 x SSD 256 GB - PCI Express

Monitor
None.

Multi-GPU Configuration
Dual GPU

Graphics Controller
AMD FirePro D300

Video Memory
4 GB GDDR5 SDRAM

Audio Output
Integrated

Networking
Gigabit LAN, 802.11b, 802.11a, 802.11g, 802.11n, Bluetooth 4.0, 802.11ac

Power
AC 120/230 V ( 50/60 Hz )

OS Provided
Apple OS X 10.9 Mavericks

Dimensions (WxDxH)
16.7 cm x 16.7 cm x 25.1 cm

Weight
5 kg

Environmental Standards
ENERGY STAR Qualified , EPEAT Gold

Manufacturer Warranty
1 year warranty



Its not hard to click the link and see them ;)



Edited By: clnsndrs on Jul 30, 2014 18:42
1 Like #15
iLemmings
#16
monkeyhanger75
Apple tax - built a PC that will spank this every which way for £1050, with a better processor (i7 4770k) more memory (16Gb 2400MHz DDR3), more storage (250Gb Samsung Evo 840 SSD and a 3Tb 6Gb/s WD HDD), Better graphics card, 850W Gold rated power supply, liquid cooling for great overclocking potential and lots of USB3 connectivity. Everything in it is made by ASUS or Corsair. I know plenty of people prefer OSX to Win 8.1, but I would rather have mine over the Apple and bank half the money.

256Gb storage on a modern computer is nowt these days - SSD for OS and programs, and a decent sized HDD for storage is the way to go.

And not that difficult to make into a 'Hackintosh' with the correct parts from the start, or a dual booting system.
#17
£2.1k+ and you only get a 256gb hdd! Haha. I was surprised there was no included monitor although that I can understand, but ffs could they not have stretched to even 500GB of storage? I don't know why anyone would buy this unless they are rich and/or need this spec of Mac specifically. Definitely not anywhere near the spec of an over priced £2k pc.
3 Likes #18
djfluff
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For over 2 grand I'd insist it had that feature.
#19
oh here we go,

uni students "I need one for all my coursework and designing"

me "PC's do all of that and more for cheaper -_- also that isnt what these are intended for and I would also like to say stop wasting money on crap you dont need"

*sigh* no wonder everyone I know that comes out of uni ends up in debt they have no idea when it comes to managing finances
1 Like #20
monkeyhanger75
Apple tax - built a PC that will spank this every which way for £1050, with a better processor (i7 4770k) more memory (16Gb 2400MHz DDR3), more storage (250Gb Samsung Evo 840 SSD and a 3Tb 6Gb/s WD HDD), Better graphics card, 850W Gold rated power supply, liquid cooling for great overclocking potential and lots of USB3 connectivity. Everything in it is made by ASUS or Corsair. I know plenty of people prefer OSX to Win 8.1, but I would rather have mine over the Apple and bank half the money.

256Gb storage on a modern computer is nowt these days - SSD for OS and programs, and a decent sized HDD for storage is the way to go.

You can't compare a i7 with a Xeon. Xeons are much more reliable and produce less heat. Mac Pro uses PCI-e based SSD, which is much faster than a SATA SSD. More MHz on memory does not mean it's faster, you have to consider clock cycles. Mac Pro has FirePros, these are GPUs with specialised drivers (2D and 3D rendering). Finally, the size of it.

Mac Pros are aimed at a different audience than just the average user/gamer. I'll agree that the price did bother me when I bought it. (Bought for developing work as I do move around quite a bit)

Edited By: AytacK on Jul 30, 2014 22:10
1 Like #21
BarmyBulldog
MrBThatsMe
Where the hell are students getting a spare 2k from!? Other than a student loan or parents I can't begin to imagine how I'd ever have conjured up the spare change back when I was a student. I thought I'd done well to afford a netbook! :(


They're not students they're so called 'graduates' from yonks ago (recent deal for NUS)
they get government grants loads of uni students ive met have bought macs with it then they go cry when cameron cuts their grants I mean seriously is anyone suprised majority of them act like spoilt children -_- one I knew didnt want a delivery driving job when he came out of uni because it was apparently below him
#22
AytacK
monkeyhanger75
Apple tax - built a PC that will spank this every which way for £1050, with a better processor (i7 4770k) more memory (16Gb 2400MHz DDR3), more storage (250Gb Samsung Evo 840 SSD and a 3Tb 6Gb/s WD HDD), Better graphics card, 850W Gold rated power supply, liquid cooling for great overclocking potential and lots of USB3 connectivity. Everything in it is made by ASUS or Corsair. I know plenty of people prefer OSX to Win 8.1, but I would rather have mine over the Apple and bank half the money.

256Gb storage on a modern computer is nowt these days - SSD for OS and programs, and a decent sized HDD for storage is the way to go.

You can't compare a i7 with a Xeon. Xeons are much more reliable and produce less heat. Mac Pro uses PCI-e based SSD, which is much faster than a SATA SSD. More MHz on memory does not mean it's faster, you have to consider clock cycles. Mac Pro has FirePros, these are GPUs with specialised drivers (2D and 3D rendering). Finally, the size of it.

Mac Pros are aimed at a different audience than just the average user/gamer. I'll agree that the price did bother me when I bought it.
you can still buy a pc cheaper even with xeons and design gfx cards
#23
Murgatroyd99
iLemmings

iLike your comment and iCan go on with the iCrazy iJokes just by adding i to everything and iFactor that this comment will be reported by all the non iHater fruit fanatics.

Now iThink my comment above is just mad.

iZombies
#24
uchihasilver
BarmyBulldog
MrBThatsMe
Where the hell are students getting a spare 2k from!? Other than a student loan or parents I can't begin to imagine how I'd ever have conjured up the spare change back when I was a student. I thought I'd done well to afford a netbook! :(


They're not students they're so called 'graduates' from yonks ago (recent deal for NUS)
they get government grants loads of uni students ive met have bought macs with it then they go cry when cameron cuts their grants I mean seriously is anyone suprised majority of them act like spoilt children -_- one I knew didnt want a delivery driving job when he came out of uni because it was apparently below him

well said, Mr Cameron, leave the EU, regain some proper balls and good old proper english sovereignty!

Then bring back the national service, send the out of work uni grad muppets to clean up the streets!

If you are not part of the EU they can't have a moan, and those idiots that complain about Human rights and 'slavery' its called the national service, pick up some tat!
#25
uchihasilver
AytacK
monkeyhanger75
Apple tax - built a PC that will spank this every which way for £1050, with a better processor (i7 4770k) more memory (16Gb 2400MHz DDR3), more storage (250Gb Samsung Evo 840 SSD and a 3Tb 6Gb/s WD HDD), Better graphics card, 850W Gold rated power supply, liquid cooling for great overclocking potential and lots of USB3 connectivity. Everything in it is made by ASUS or Corsair. I know plenty of people prefer OSX to Win 8.1, but I would rather have mine over the Apple and bank half the money.

256Gb storage on a modern computer is nowt these days - SSD for OS and programs, and a decent sized HDD for storage is the way to go.

You can't compare a i7 with a Xeon. Xeons are much more reliable and produce less heat. Mac Pro uses PCI-e based SSD, which is much faster than a SATA SSD. More MHz on memory does not mean it's faster, you have to consider clock cycles. Mac Pro has FirePros, these are GPUs with specialised drivers (2D and 3D rendering). Finally, the size of it.

Mac Pros are aimed at a different audience than just the average user/gamer. I'll agree that the price did bother me when I bought it.
you can still buy a pc cheaper even with xeons and design gfx cards

Yes but the form factor was what I wanted. Unless I designed a case myself (very difficult) I would have never been able to make it so small.
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The reason people come out of three years of Uni with so much debt may have something to do with £27000 of fees rather than a £2000 computer.
#27
hell you can have a dual xeon x58 setup if you wanted with that money
#28
AytacK
monkeyhanger75
Apple tax - built a PC that will spank this every which way for £1050, with a better processor (i7 4770k) more memory (16Gb 2400MHz DDR3), more storage (250Gb Samsung Evo 840 SSD and a 3Tb 6Gb/s WD HDD), Better graphics card, 850W Gold rated power supply, liquid cooling for great overclocking potential and lots of USB3 connectivity. Everything in it is made by ASUS or Corsair. I know plenty of people prefer OSX to Win 8.1, but I would rather have mine over the Apple and bank half the money.256Gb storage on a modern computer is nowt these days - SSD for OS and programs, and a decent sized HDD for storage is the way to go.
You can't compare a i7 with a Xeon. Xeons are much more reliable and produce less heat. Mac Pro uses PCI-e based SSD, which is much faster than a SATA SSD. More MHz on memory does not mean it's faster, you have to consider clock cycles. Mac Pro has FirePros, these are GPUs with specialised drivers (2D and 3D rendering). Finally, the size of it.Mac Pros are aimed at a different audience than just the average user/gamer. I'll agree that the price did bother me when I bought it. (Bought for developing work as I do move around quite a bit)

It is still a massive premium for the form factor primarily, and a Xeon running cooler (it would have to in a case like this) is not an issue vs a water cooled i7 (my cpu idles at 27C and never gets over 52C fully stressed).
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The biggest issue with student tuition feels is that they almost tripled overnight. The average yearly tuition fee was £3k a year until the government gave the green light for up to £9k a year (intended to be the highest level for the best Uni’s to charge, not something for all the Unis to aim towards) and most of them are now charging £7-9k a year. Chinese students are abandoning the UK in droves as there are now far cheaper places to study in Europe.

You had to be very bright or rich to go to Uni 30 years ago, nowadays anyone can get a degree in pretty much anything and many of those degrees aren’t fit for purpose to give you the expertise to get into a specialised job that pays well. Graduate money in many fields is rubbish, especially in Science – where a high level of intelligence is required and it’s no easy ride. A BSc in Chemistry will typically require 35 hours a week of lectures, 10+ hours a week of labs and coursework/homework on top of that, whereas something like “American literature studies” that a mate* of mine did required 4 hours a week of uni time and required you to read ½ a classic American book a week + a bit of coursework. Too many Mickey Mouse degrees out there.

*He works in Subway, as his degree is useless for pretty much anything beyond being a librarian.
#30
monkeyhanger75
The biggest issue with student tuition feels is that they almost tripled overnight. The average yearly tuition fee was £3k a year until the government gave the green light for up to £9k a year (intended to be the highest level for the best Uni’s to charge, not something for all the Unis to aim towards) and most of them are now charging £7-9k a year. Chinese students are abandoning the UK in droves as there are now far cheaper places to study in Europe.

You had to be very bright or rich to go to Uni 30 years ago, nowadays anyone can get a degree in pretty much anything and many of those degrees aren’t fit for purpose to give you the expertise to get into a specialised job that pays well. Graduate money in many fields is rubbish, especially in Science – where a high level of intelligence is required and it’s no easy ride. A BSc in Chemistry will typically require 35 hours a week of lectures, 10+ hours a week of labs and coursework/homework on top of that, whereas something like “American literature studies” that a mate* of mine did required 4 hours a week of uni time and required you to read ½ a classic American book a week + a bit of coursework. Too many Mickey Mouse degrees out there.

*He works in Subway, as his degree is useless for pretty much anything beyond being a librarian.


He'll probably end up as an IT project manager
#31
Love that thing. Reminds me of the good old days of Sun and SGI workstations. If I had the money, wouldn't mind spending the premium, it's not just the parts, but the R&D as well. Hot from me!
1 Like #32
monkeyhanger75
AytacK
monkeyhanger75
Apple tax - built a PC that will spank this every which way for £1050, with a better processor (i7 4770k) more memory (16Gb 2400MHz DDR3), more storage (250Gb Samsung Evo 840 SSD and a 3Tb 6Gb/s WD HDD), Better graphics card, 850W Gold rated power supply, liquid cooling for great overclocking potential and lots of USB3 connectivity. Everything in it is made by ASUS or Corsair. I know plenty of people prefer OSX to Win 8.1, but I would rather have mine over the Apple and bank half the money.256Gb storage on a modern computer is nowt these days - SSD for OS and programs, and a decent sized HDD for storage is the way to go.
You can't compare a i7 with a Xeon. Xeons are much more reliable and produce less heat. Mac Pro uses PCI-e based SSD, which is much faster than a SATA SSD. More MHz on memory does not mean it's faster, you have to consider clock cycles. Mac Pro has FirePros, these are GPUs with specialised drivers (2D and 3D rendering). Finally, the size of it.Mac Pros are aimed at a different audience than just the average user/gamer. I'll agree that the price did bother me when I bought it. (Bought for developing work as I do move around quite a bit)

It is still a massive premium for the form factor primarily, and a Xeon running cooler (it would have to in a case like this) is not an issue vs a water cooled i7 (my cpu idles at 27C and never gets over 52C fully stressed).

I agree. It is overpriced but some are prepared to pay the premium. Water Cooled? You've just added another point of failure, a pump and it could leak :). I can't risk that,

I need something reliable that could run 24/7 and quiet, as compiling code takes time and is intensive. Moreover, as a freelance programmer (very tight deadlines), I can't afford for a system to fail. Mac's have proven to be very reliable with Apple having amazing customer service.

However, there are people who buy the Mac Pro just because "it looks good", I have nothing against that, but it is a waste of money.


Edited By: AytacK on Jul 31, 2014 10:19
#33
It isn't just the cost of the parts that determines the price of the product. You have to account for the £millions that goes into R&D and manufacturing costs of such a unique piece of hardware. All that money is recouped through final retail sales. That being said, that is what you're paying for..... an unusual form factor. Of course you can build a better PC for far less money if you're happy with the standard form factor, but if you like the mac and have the money to burn, why not?

Better reliability, less hassle and similar claims from mac owners has come from clever marketing over the years. Being able to easily swap out faulty parts or make upgrades with standard off the shelf products, as well as having better software compatibility makes owning a PC much less hassle for me.
#34
The reality of the situation is that the people who argue that they can buy a higher-specced PC for less are missing the point. After all, that argument can be used for almost anything money can buy. For instance, there is a listing for a WD 2TB portable drive that is getting a lot of heat right now but it costs about £10 more than another 2TB drive also listed on HUKD from another manufacturer; both are getting heat. Why? Some people will prefer the looks or name of the WD over the Seagate and vice versa.

Also, there are often different deals for cars on HUKD. In some cases, the deals are for so-called luxury brands which, even after the deal, cost thousands more than another car that will do the same thing. The person buying the luxury brand may not do anything more with their cars than the person buying the Fiesta but it's what they want, need or like, plain and simple.

I have Windows laptops in my house, a server and a Mac; I use all for different purposes and I like each for different reasons. My Mac has the server add-on and could do things my server does but I rather a Windows server for that. However, I use my Mac more than any other computer in my house, except when I have to do certain work, simply because I don't have time to come home and be tinkering with a PC or dabbling with a Hackintosh. However, that's what some people like so who am I to judge?

The point is, people will buy what suits them and they don't need to justify their purchase to anyone else, unless that person has a joint financial interest with them. Therefore, why compare apples (or Apples) with other fruit. It's like people always feel the need to perpetuate a turf war over brands. Now, is the price on this deal good compared with what you can get these for elsewhere or not?


Edited By: TechBB on Aug 01, 2014 01:23
1 Like #35
TechBB
The reality of the situation is that the people who argue that they can buy a higher-specced PC for less are missing the point. After all, that argument can be used for almost anything money can buy. For instance, there is a listing for a WD 2TB portable drive that is getting a lot of heat right now but it costs about £10 more than another 2TB drive also listed on HUKD from another manufacturer; both are getting heat. Why? Some people will prefer the looks or name of the WD over the Seagate and vice versa.

Also, there are often different deals for cars on HUKD. In some cases, the deals are for so-called luxury brands which, even after the deal, cost thousands more than another car that will do the same thing. The person buying the luxury brand may not do anything more with their cars than the person buying the Fiesta but it's what they want, need or like, plain and simple.

I have Windows laptops in my house, a server and a Mac; I use all for different purposes and I like each for different reasons. My Mac has the server add-on and could do things my server does but I rather a Windows server for that. However, I use my Mac more than any other computer in my house, except when I have to do certain work, simply because I don't have time to come home and be tinkering with a PC or dabbling with a Hackintosh. However, that's what some people like so who am I to judge?

The point is, people will buy what suits them and they don't need to justify their purchase to anyone else, unless that person has a joint financial interest with them. Therefore, why compare apples (or Apples) with other fruit. It's like people always feel the need to perpetuate a turf war over brands. Now, is the price on this deal good compared with what you can get these for elsewhere or not?

WD have 3 years warranty hence the £10 more expensive, PC's can be built cheaper and more powerful and all parts come with more than 1 years warranty majority of the time compared to apples 1 year warranty, it isn't a brand war it's called logic, if macs were better priced to compete with PC's and offered much better warranty i would say fair enough but that isn't the case, only valid reason for any single person to reasonably own Macs are businesses because all of theyre hardware is designed to be small form factor allowing for less space to be taken =)
#36
uchihasilver
WD have 3 years warranty hence the £10 more expensive, PC's can be built cheaper and more powerful and all parts come with more than 1 years warranty majority of the time compared to apples 1 year warranty, it isn't a brand war it's called logic, if macs were better priced to compete with PC's and offered much better warranty i would say fair enough but that isn't the case, only valid reason for any single person to reasonably own Macs are businesses because all of theyre hardware is designed to be small form factor allowing for less space to be taken =)

I liked your post by accident so don't get excited :p

Regarding your comment that it is "logic", here's a brainteaser for you: is logic the result or the process? You say it's logic but you're assuming that the criteria you use in purchase decisions applies to everyone. As I said before, everyone has different needs and, most importantly, wants.

Besides, a person's logic may factor in the merits of OS X vs Windows or the merits of buying a system that natively supports OS X instead of fiddling with drivers and the road of trial and error that most Hackintoshes lead to. A person may reason that the build quality of a Mac is superior to most PCs, even custom-built ones. That may be the logic by which they make their decision to purchase a Mac. Logic is based largely on perception/perspective, just as yours is based on the perception that PCs offer more value for money. Bear in mind there is a difference between value and unit price.

Yes, yes, Apple computers only come with a 1 year warranty (unless you buy it from John Lewis or buy an extended warranty cheap from eBay) while, as you said, many PC parts come with a 2 year manufacturer's warranty. However, if you have ever had to take advantage of Apple's warranty support, you would know that it is mostly stress-free and less time consuming than dealing with various hardware manufacturer's if you need support. As far as I'm concerned, time is money. Besides, the Sale of Goods Act & the EU directive 1999/44/EC may be able to make up for the shortfall, depending on your tenacity. Sometimes, these 2 year warranties offered by manufacturers have loopholes or conditions many consumers may not even be aware of.

One last thing, regarding your comment about only businesses needing Macs, I disagree. Businesses typically use applications that require Windows. Plus, businesses operate on margins whilst personal budgets can sometimes be more "adaptable" (whether sensibly or not) because less people are affected: no shareholders, no staff to pay, less expenses, less risk, typically less creditors. Windows computers or even terminals will typically require less capital expenditure and less specialist support skills than Macs.

My point is, building a PC is a more logical approach for you while buying a Mac Pro may be a more logical approach for some people; not me, but some people.




Edited By: TechBB on Aug 06, 2014 20:24
1 Like #37
JPS

And no optical drive? Cold ;)

Never mind that where's the floppy disk?

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