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Mad Catz M.O.J.O Android TV Box with BT Game Controller, 2G RAM/16G Memory, 2.4Ghz/5Ghz Dual Band WiFi. £59.99 @ Amazon

£59.99 @ Amazon
If it wasn't for the fact that you can easily install a Android TV ROM on this I wouldn't of thought this was a great deal. Android TV Mad Catz M.O.J.O: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mad-catz-moj… Read More
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10m, 5d agoFound 10 months, 5 days ago
If it wasn't for the fact that you can easily install a Android TV ROM on this I wouldn't of thought this was a great deal.

Android TV Mad Catz M.O.J.O: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mad-catz-mojo/development/rom-android-tv-mad-catz-m-o-j-o-t3003219

Because 'you' can easily install 3rd party ROMs on this device by simply side-loading a apk to unlock the device, this makes this a great deal for people that like to tinker.

They even encourage it:

"Ready to Root

As any Android power-user knows, the best way to get the most out of your device is to root it. Rooting opens up all sorts of options including expanded access to Google Play and the ability to install custom ROMs. Mad Catz provides a short step-by-step guide to rooting, and our tech support team is ready to help. The best part – rooting won't void your warranty."

It is using the Tegra 4 SOC making this a very powerful system. It can easily run HL2/Portal and high-end (Android) games. It also has 2GB of RAM, 16 GB of internal storage and a micro SD card slot that lets you expand the memory to 128 GB. It even has a USB 3.0 Port for fast access to external HDs.

Half-Life 2 Tegra 4 Frame-Rate Tests: https://youtu.be/aPyrpBpC3QM

Its hackability is what makes this device shine.

Spec wise, the Chinese Android TV boxes can't come close to this for its price.

As is, it is a fairly high-end Android TV box running Android 4.2.2 (poor mans NVIDIA SHIELD TV), price wise it is still pretty good even if it wasn't hackable. You would be looking at £20+ just for the game controller.
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Great box when you root and install CM12. Well worth buying for people who want something similar to a shield but for half the cost

Always would recommend this over m8/m8+ boxes etc bought one to review and compare with the shield and was pleasantly surprised.

The controller is better also.
#2
chantelle310
Great box when you root and install CM12. Well worth buying for people who want something similar to a shield but for half the cost
Always would recommend this over m8/m8+ boxes etc bought one to review and compare with the shield and was pleasantly surprised.
The controller is better also.

It is only £10 more then the Nexus Player. As it is pretty simple to run CM12 on it I thought at £60 this was a great deal (+ the included game controller is a huge bonus). Spec wise it blows the Nexus Player out of the water.

Even if people don't want to mess around with it. I can't think of a better system for its price to run Kodi on.



Edited By: pinguy on Aug 16, 2016 20:57: edited a word.
#3
pinguy
chantelle310
Great box when you root and install CM12. Well worth buying for people who want something similar to a shield but for half the cost
Always would recommend this over m8/m8+ boxes etc bought one to review and compare with the shield and was pleasantly surprised.
The controller is better also.
It is only £10 more then the Nexus Player. As it is pretty simple to run CM12 on it I thought at £60 this was a great deal (+ the included game controller is a huge bonus). Spec wise it blows the Nexus Player out of the water.
Even if people don't want to mess around with it. I can't think of a better system for its price to run Kodi.


Yes your absolutely right to go for this. As a stock device you get great performance also. Only the bottom bar of soft keys doesn't ever dissappear.

If you root it and install a play store app called hide all soft keys then they go. So you don't even need to install a rom.

Ive tested this even with the moonlight and streamed games like ark and wwe 2K directly to it from my PC and it's hardly dropped any frames! Very good box.
#4
chantelle310
pinguy
chantelle310
Great box when you root and install CM12. Well worth buying for people who want something similar to a shield but for half the cost
Always would recommend this over m8/m8+ boxes etc bought one to review and compare with the shield and was pleasantly surprised.
The controller is better also.
It is only £10 more then the Nexus Player. As it is pretty simple to run CM12 on it I thought at £60 this was a great deal (+ the included game controller is a huge bonus). Spec wise it blows the Nexus Player out of the water.
Even if people don't want to mess around with it. I can't think of a better system for its price to run Kodi.
Yes your absolutely right to go for this. As a stock device you get great performance also. Only the bottom bar of soft keys doesn't ever dissappear.
If you root it and install a play store app called hide all soft keys then they go. So you don't even need to install a rom.
Ive tested this even with the moonlight and streamed games like ark and wwe 2K directly to it from my PC and it's hardly dropped any frames! Very good box.

It can even run Remix OS.
https://youtu.be/bb7fmUo4Xro
#5
I'm guessing due to being 4K ready, would this play x265 and VP9/10 decoding?
2 Likes #6
M0nk3h
I'm guessing due to being 4K ready, would this play x265 and VP9/10 decoding?

Due to the age of the Tegra4 I would rule out it supporting hardware VP9 decoding. It might (and this is a big might) be able to do software decoding of VP9, but honestly don't know.

x265 it might be able to do. I need to find the Tegra 4 spec sheet to see what hardware decoding it can do.

Here it does say it supports HDR, so that is a + http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-4-processor.html


Edited By: pinguy on Aug 16, 2016 21:37
#7
Thinking of replacing this with my firestick.would like to know if this would handle all the retro emulators and kodi.
#8
What's the benefit of hacking!
1 Like #9
hackerace
Thinking of replacing this with my firestick.would like to know if this would handle all the retro emulators and kodi.

Easily. https://youtu.be/U_tk6cj0mvc

The Tegra 4 SOC is still a very powerful CPU. Not much can touch it performance wise. Only issue is due to its age is some of the newer codecs won't have hardware decoding. But because it is a very powerful CPU it will be able to handle the newer (unsupported) codecs via software. Just don't expect them to run at 4K (h.264 will run like a champ on this).

Gaming wise there isn't much that is going to touch this. THIS IS a very high-end gaming CPU/GPU. But due to its age some of the newer codecs like VP9 (that hardly any SOC can support anyway) will have to be decoded via software.



Edited By: pinguy on Aug 16, 2016 22:06: defining my answer.
#10
Firestick is great plug n play for kodi,handles evrything fine apart from gaming and true controller.would this be better?
#11
hackerace
Firestick is great plug n play for kodi,handles evrything fine apart from gaming and true controller.would this be better?

I highly doubt that the firestick has hardware HEVC & VP9 support for Kodi. So in that regard it is the same as this when it comes to hardware video decoding. The huge difference is the Tegra 4 SOC can run PS3 level graphics. This device can run native versions of Half Life 2 and Portal.

As a gaming Android TV box, only the NVIDIA SHIELD TV with its Tegra X1 SOC can beat this.

So yes. This is leaps and bonds better than the Amazon TV stick.




Edited By: pinguy on Aug 16, 2016 22:18
1 Like #12
roadie
What's the benefit of hacking!

Having a up-to-date firmware for one. As it stands the most up-to-date officially Android version you can run on this is 4.4.2

Unofficially you can run Android 5.1.1

There are huge benefits to being able to hack a device and being able to run unofficially firmwares.

Being able to run unofficially firmwares means as long as the community is happy to keep the device updated and supported. There will always be updates for it. Long after the company has officially stop supporting the device.




Edited By: pinguy on Aug 16, 2016 22:35: wording
#13
Does anyone have some links to the FW and other hacks for it.

Thanks
1 Like #14
polly69
Does anyone have some links to the FW and other hacks for it.
Thanks

I posted a few already:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/mad-catz-mojo/development/rom-android-tv-mad-catz-m-o-j-o-t3003219
https://youtu.be/bb7fmUo4Xro

But the XDA forum has good info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mad-catz-mojo


Edited By: pinguy on Aug 16, 2016 22:45
#15
hackerace
Firestick is great plug n play for kodi,handles evrything fine apart from gaming and true controller.would this be better?

isn't the firestick WIFI only?
I would only use WIFI for streaming movies as the last resort ethernet is the first choice everytime!
1 Like #16
skykid3
hackerace
Firestick is great plug n play for kodi,handles evrything fine apart from gaming and true controller.would this be better?
isn't the firestick WIFI only?
I would only use WIFI for streaming movies as the last resort ethernet is the first choice everytime!

WiFi only isn't that bad. As long as it supports 5Ghz. If the device only supports 2.4Ghz, then yes that would be an issue. 2.4Ghz WiFi is garbage for High bit-rate HD video. For me 2.4Ghz maxes out at about 20/30Mbs. 5Ghz WiFi on the other hand maxes out my fiber connection. It can do 160Mbs+. I have no issues streaming SBS high bit-rate 3D HD video over 5Ghz WiFi. On 2.4Ghz WiFi I struggle with steaming 1080p video.

Edited By: pinguy on Aug 17, 2016 00:00
#17
What is the os remix like?
#18
Will this little thing play hi10p files anyone know, if it does my pi2 can have an early retirement.
#19
BIGUSHEADUS
Will this little thing play hi10p files anyone know, if it does my pi2 can have an early retirement.

I own the Pi3. This device is far better.
#20
pinguy
skykid3
hackerace
Firestick is great plug n play for kodi,handles evrything fine apart from gaming and true controller.would this be better?
isn't the firestick WIFI only?
I would only use WIFI for streaming movies as the last resort ethernet is the first choice everytime!
WiFi only isn't that bad. As long as it supports 5Ghz. If the device only supports 2.4Ghz, then yes that would be an issue. 2.4Ghz WiFi is garbage for High bit-rate HD video. For me 2.4Ghz maxes out at about 20/30Mbs. 5Ghz WiFi on the other hand maxes out my fiber connection. It can do 160Mbs+. I have no issues streaming SBS high bit-rate 3D HD video over 5Ghz WiFi. On 2.4Ghz WiFi I struggle with steaming 1080p video.

2.4Ghz WiFi is all I have used so far and been less than impressed when streaming films
2 Likes #21
pinguy
BIGUSHEADUS
Will this little thing play hi10p files anyone know, if it does my pi2 can have an early retirement.
I own the Pi3. This device is far better.
Oh no, looks like I'll have to get my baking tray out. It's pie time I upgraded...
2 Likes #22
skykid3
pinguy
skykid3
hackerace
Firestick is great plug n play for kodi,handles evrything fine apart from gaming and true controller.would this be better?
isn't the firestick WIFI only?
I would only use WIFI for streaming movies as the last resort ethernet is the first choice everytime!
WiFi only isn't that bad. As long as it supports 5Ghz. If the device only supports 2.4Ghz, then yes that would be an issue. 2.4Ghz WiFi is garbage for High bit-rate HD video. For me 2.4Ghz maxes out at about 20/30Mbs. 5Ghz WiFi on the other hand maxes out my fiber connection. It can do 160Mbs+. I have no issues streaming SBS high bit-rate 3D HD video over 5Ghz WiFi. On 2.4Ghz WiFi I struggle with steaming 1080p video.
2.4Ghz WiFi is all I have used so far and been less than impressed when streaming films

Can your router/modem do 5Ghz? If it can it is worth checking out. It is fast.

At the moment I have two routers (because I don't have a dual router). My main one is my Virgin Media Netgear HUB (I have that setup to use 5Ghz), and a fairly cheap Belkin 2.4GHz that is connected to my HUB.

Nearly all of my devices can use 5Ghz. Only a 2012 Nexus 7 tablet and a couple of E-readers can't. All my other devices including my Smart TV can use 5Ghz, and the speed difference between 2.4GHz/5Ghz WiFi is huge.

If you can use 5Ghz WiFi I would look into it.

#Edit.

My Virgin Media Hub setup.

http://i.imgur.com/1ivj5Mz.png

http://i.imgur.com/JHbmPXB.png



Edited By: pinguy on Aug 17, 2016 01:18: Posted photos.
#23
At this price it blows those cheap boxes out the water and you don't have to wait 2 months for it to arrive.
#24
It has always been this price on amazon for a long time, that said it's very good value for money
#25
I was tempted to buy a nvidia shield to replace my m8 box but the price is putting me off, I only use kodi and showbox, is this box a better option to fire tv or is there a better box for my needs?
1 Like #26
pinguy
skykid3
pinguy
skykid3
hackerace
Firestick is great plug n play for kodi,handles evrything fine apart from gaming and true controller.would this be better?
isn't the firestick WIFI only?
I would only use WIFI for streaming movies as the last resort ethernet is the first choice everytime!
WiFi only isn't that bad. As long as it supports 5Ghz. If the device only supports 2.4Ghz, then yes that would be an issue. 2.4Ghz WiFi is garbage for High bit-rate HD video. For me 2.4Ghz maxes out at about 20/30Mbs. 5Ghz WiFi on the other hand maxes out my fiber connection. It can do 160Mbs+. I have no issues streaming SBS high bit-rate 3D HD video over 5Ghz WiFi. On 2.4Ghz WiFi I struggle with steaming 1080p video.
2.4Ghz WiFi is all I have used so far and been less than impressed when streaming films

Can your router/modem do 5Ghz? If it can it is worth checking out. It is fast.

At the moment I have two routers (because I don't have a dual router). My main one is my Virgin Media Netgear HUB (I have that setup to use 5Ghz), and a fairly cheap Belkin 2.4GHz that is connected to my HUB.

Nearly all of my devices can use 5Ghz. Only a 2012 Nexus 7 tablet and a couple of E-readers can't. All my other devices including my Smart TV can use 5Ghz, and the speed difference between 2.4GHz/5Ghz WiFi is huge.

If you can use 5Ghz WiFi I would look into it.

#Edit.

My Virgin Media Hub setup.

http://i.imgur.com/1ivj5Mz.png

http://i.imgur.com/JHbmPXB.png




You should get a SH2/3 and remove the need for two routers.
#27
steeleez
I was tempted to buy a nvidia shield to replace my m8 box but the price is putting me off, I only use kodi and showbox, is this box a better option to fire tv or is there a better box for my needs?


What's wrong with your m8? Firebox/stick had a better remote than yours but why bother changing?
#28
already posted here:-

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/mad-catz-m-o-j-o-micro-console-for-android-59-99-sediva-uk-fulfilled-amazon-2395150

looks like limited stock available, if I remember right the controller on these are £30+ alone
#29
markymark34
steeleez
I was tempted to buy a nvidia shield to replace my m8 box but the price is putting me off, I only use kodi and showbox, is this box a better option to fire tv or is there a better box for my needs?
What's wrong with your m8? Firebox/stick had a better remote than yours but why bother changing?

Nothing wrong apart from it starting to get a bit slow to load, it's going to be moved to the bedroom as I've cancelled my sky, so I need a new box for the main TV.
#30
I own both the Fire Stick and MOJO (Remix OS) With regards to running Kodi, i don't use the MOJO anymore as it barely works over WiFi and constantly freezes over Ethernet. Whereas the Stick works flawlessly (live HD IPTV / HD Movies (Sky Fibre ~ 30Mbs Router to Device ~ 12Mtrs)
#31
zermattbusby
I own both the Fire Stick and MOJO (Remix OS) With regards to running Kodi, i don't use the MOJO anymore as it barely works over WiFi and constantly freezes over Ethernet. Whereas the Stick works flawlessly (live HD IPTV / HD Movies (Sky Fibre ~ 30Mbs Router to Device ~ 12Mtrs)
well this sums it up as I was going to change mine but if wifi is an issue than i wont bother, i wanted it for kodi and emulation/games.
#32
very tempting, but don't need.
#33
Here's my view on this for anybody who's on the fence about it.

https://youtu.be/10Nxn7VU5rQ
#34
GSMBuyer
already posted here:-

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/mad-catz-m-o-j-o-micro-console-for-android-59-99-sediva-uk-fulfilled-amazon-2395150

looks like limited stock available, if I remember right the controller on these are £30+ alone


Posted over six months ago though?
#35
chantelle310
Here's my view on this for anybody who's on the fence about it. https://youtu.be/10Nxn7VU5rQ
whats the wifi like, I wanted it for kodi and gaming but someone said it's not as good as firestick for streaming movies.
#36
Quite fancy one as a media centre, reviews appear very hit and miss though?
#37
pinguy
skykid3
pinguy
skykid3
hackerace
Firestick is great plug n play for kodi,handles evrything fine apart from gaming and true controller.would this be better?
isn't the firestick WIFI only?
I would only use WIFI for streaming movies as the last resort ethernet is the first choice everytime!
WiFi only isn't that bad. As long as it supports 5Ghz. If the device only supports 2.4Ghz, then yes that would be an issue. 2.4Ghz WiFi is garbage for High bit-rate HD video. For me 2.4Ghz maxes out at about 20/30Mbs. 5Ghz WiFi on the other hand maxes out my fiber connection. It can do 160Mbs+. I have no issues streaming SBS high bit-rate 3D HD video over 5Ghz WiFi. On 2.4Ghz WiFi I struggle with steaming 1080p video.
2.4Ghz WiFi is all I have used so far and been less than impressed when streaming films

Can your router/modem do 5Ghz? If it can it is worth checking out. It is fast.

At the moment I have two routers (because I don't have a dual router). My main one is my Virgin Media Netgear HUB (I have that setup to use 5Ghz), and a fairly cheap Belkin 2.4GHz that is connected to my HUB.

Nearly all of my devices can use 5Ghz. Only a 2012 Nexus 7 tablet and a couple of E-readers can't. All my other devices including my Smart TV can use 5Ghz, and the speed difference between 2.4GHz/5Ghz WiFi is huge.

If you can use 5Ghz WiFi I would look into it.

#Edit.

My Virgin Media Hub setup.

http://i.imgur.com/1ivj5Mz.png

http://i.imgur.com/JHbmPXB.png




just wonder why do you need to use 2 separate device? Because I'm using both band on my SH2
#38
hackerace
chantelle310
Here's my view on this for anybody who's on the fence about it. https://youtu.be/10Nxn7VU5rQ
whats the wifi like, I wanted it for kodi and gaming but someone said it's not as good as firestick for streaming movies.


WiFi is ok, i don't use WiFi often as its rubbish in my house, but the signal was good enough to stream

you will need to root this at least to get the best from it, it isnt a difficult job at all just make sure you have the correct files. and avoid using towel root, that thing is nasty

much better than a fire stick
#39
What are the chances that Plex media server (android/nvidia shield version) can be installed on this device?

Or does anybody know of recommended apps that will act as a library, pulling files from a nas device?

Edited By: mrjulzmr on Aug 17, 2016 11:11: Extra
#40
yusszn
pinguy
skykid3
pinguy
skykid3
hackerace
Firestick is great plug n play for kodi,handles evrything fine apart from gaming and true controller.would this be better?
isn't the firestick WIFI only?
I would only use WIFI for streaming movies as the last resort ethernet is the first choice everytime!
WiFi only isn't that bad. As long as it supports 5Ghz. If the device only supports 2.4Ghz, then yes that would be an issue. 2.4Ghz WiFi is garbage for High bit-rate HD video. For me 2.4Ghz maxes out at about 20/30Mbs. 5Ghz WiFi on the other hand maxes out my fiber connection. It can do 160Mbs+. I have no issues streaming SBS high bit-rate 3D HD video over 5Ghz WiFi. On 2.4Ghz WiFi I struggle with steaming 1080p video.
2.4Ghz WiFi is all I have used so far and been less than impressed when streaming films
Can your router/modem do 5Ghz? If it can it is worth checking out. It is fast.
At the moment I have two routers (because I don't have a dual router). My main one is my Virgin Media Netgear HUB (I have that setup to use 5Ghz), and a fairly cheap Belkin 2.4GHz that is connected to my HUB.
Nearly all of my devices can use 5Ghz. Only a 2012 Nexus 7 tablet and a couple of E-readers can't. All my other devices including my Smart TV can use 5Ghz, and the speed difference between 2.4GHz/5Ghz WiFi is huge.
If you can use 5Ghz WiFi I would look into it.
#Edit.
My Virgin Media Hub setup.http://i.imgur.com/1ivj5Mz.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/JHbmPXB.png
just wonder why do you need to use 2 separate device? Because I'm using both band on my SH2

My Super Hub must be an old one. I can only set it to 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz. Can't run both bands at the same time.

Edited By: pinguy on Aug 17, 2016 11:24

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