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Matrix PII Pro £485.00 @ Mesh Computers

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6y, 10m agoFound 6 years, 10 months ago
* AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Quad Core Processor AM3 (3.20GHz, 8MB Cache)
* Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium Edition - 64bit English
* New Stylish Mini-Tower Micro ATX Chassis with 300W PSU - Piano Black
* ASUS M4A785T-M Mainboard (DDR3), with integrated HDMI/DVI/VGA Graphics - MATX
* 4GB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM - (2x2GB)
* 500GB Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB Buffer
* 22x Dual Layer DVD Writer Super Format +R/-R/RW/RAM
* 512MB ATI Radeon 5450 Graphics Accelerator GDDR5- ***DirectX 11***
* 7.1 High Definition onboard sound card - for 8 Channel Cinema sound
* 1 Year Free Return to Base Hardware Warranty - inc 3 Months Free Collect & Return


Standard features:

* Free Cyberlink Video Editing Suite - 7 titles (oem)
* BullGuard Internet Security 8.5 - 90 Day Trial - AntiVirus/Firewall/Backup/Spamfilter
* 12 USB 2.0 ports (6 ports at mid-board, 6 ports at back panel) - M4A785T-M
* Network Ready PCIe Gigabit LAN
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#1
Thinking of buying this pc!

anyone who thinks its poor point me something out with thoughts, im getting tired of searching for the right spec,

want something fast that i can play games on!
#2
£509.99 with delivery
#3
@ mikeleslie

is that all you do, look for minor mistakes then point them out,

painful
#4
Seems your posting a load of random 'deals' in the hope someone will point you in the right direction?

You'd be better off creating a thread in MISC and listing your requirements.

mikeleslie was helping you as you need to list delivery in price.
#5
If you want a gaming system then getting a good graphics card would be a priority rather than the extremely low-end card that this system has.
#6
Working this out it would cost about £420-£430 to build before labor and time,

these deals are considered hot on here

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/577668/amd-phenom-ii-x4-955-black-edition-

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/580638/kingston-4gb-2x2gb-ddr3-1-333mhz-pc

the main board is about £58

Windows 7 guess around £72

HDD £35

Duel DVD £20

Graphics card £60

not sure my research is bang on the cheapest, but it doesnt specify the hardware in this desktop, im going on the cheapest i came accross,
#7
EndlessWaves
If you want a gaming system then getting a good graphics card would be a priority rather than the extremely low-end card that this system has.


curious to what you know of this graphics card its not been launched yet?

but its due to replace ATI HD 4650/4550/4350 graphics cards!

US $99

info http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100118PD212.html

besides how is a directx 11 graphics card GDDR5 low end? its able to play future directx!!!

HELP!!!
#8
coxy82
Seems your posting a load of random 'deals' in the hope someone will point you in the right direction?

You'd be better off creating a thread in MISC and listing your requirements.

mikeleslie was helping you as you need to list delivery in price.


agree, i've seen a few pc threads from yourself mighty. you'd be better off researching on a computer forum instead of posting lots of different spec pc's and hope one of them is a good deal, which is what you seem to be doing (forgive me if i'm wrong). i'm not into pc gaming so afraid i can't point you anywhere in particular.
#9
Had my first experience of working with a MESH PC last week - I have built various PC's over the last 10 years or so.

Based on this 'encounter' all I would say, if you were considering a MESH anything, is DON'T! :x

Poor quality build and components plus drivers aren't even available directly from their website! [Drivers are not provided on disc with a new purchase] On top of that, for people who may need their 'technical support' it's a £1 a minute!

They are also one of these stupid firms who put a sticker seal across a case, which if opened whilst under warranty, will invalidate it!

Total ripoff! Avoid like the plague!
#10
coxy82;7586855
Seems your posting a load of random 'deals' in the hope someone will point you in the right direction?

You'd be better off creating a thread in MISC and listing your requirements.

mikeleslie was helping you as you need to list delivery in price.


kpmatthews;7587707
agree.

And me...

Folow the above advice mighty. It's good advice!


As for the slating of Mesh, I've had mine for nigh on 10 years and if I couldn't find a driver or manual on the site or elsewhere, the email support have usually helped me out. I've been aware of people disliking Mesh since about 2 days after I ordered the one I'm using now. I mentioned to a mate I'd put an order in and he was less than encouraging... In fact he called me a widge!

So have they got worse over the years, because to me they've been pretty good. Or is it a case of you only ever hear the bad stories, never the good. A bit like me slagging Vodafone off! :whistling:

And as this is 10 years old now I may think about a new one soon. Still works well, but things get more power hungry and a lot of PCs 2 years old can't run some software coming out now.

Ta all!
#11
I agree. I paid for a very expensive "on site" warranty with Mesh. Had a problem, came out and fixed it no bother. Same problem again - they said I'd have to send it in and it would be away for weeks. I asked what happened to the on-site warranty and they said as it was the same fault, they wouldn't come out again!

So they can't fix it the first time and it's somehow my fault. Waste of time they are!
#12
Mighty__Mag
curious to what you know of this graphics card its not been launched yet?

but its due to replace ATI HD 4650/4550/4350 graphics cards!

US $99

info http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100118PD212.html

besides how is a directx 11 graphics card GDDR5 low end? its able to play future directx!!!

HELP!!!
just because its the 5 series with direct x 11 does not mean its fast, for exxample hi end 4 series cards such as 4890 are faster. And another thing you must remember just because it supports directx11 does not mean it will run it reallly fast this card may struggle running games in direct x11 and you wil have to use directx9 instead. The botttom line is this is a low end card yes it can play games but not with good frame rate or graphics detail. IF you want a 5 series ATI card aim for 5750 or better.

And you must always include delivery into the price! For that reason im voting cold.
#13
Mighty__Mag
curious to what you know of this graphics card its not been launched yet?

but its due to replace ATI HD 4650/4550/4350 graphics cards!

US $99

info http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100118PD212.html

besides how is a directx 11 graphics card GDDR5 low end? its able to play future directx!!!


Clicking on it on the mesh site gives the following details:

ATI Radeon™ HD 5450 GPU Specifications
292 million 40nm transistors
TeraScale 2 Unified Processing Architecture
80 Stream Processing Units
8 Texture Units
16 Z/Stencil ROP Units
4 Color ROP Units
DDR3 memory interface

...

Engine clock speed: 675 MHz
Processing power (single precision): 108 GigaFLOPS
Polygon throughput: 675M polygons/sec
Data fetch rate (32-bit): 21.6 billion fetches/sec
Texel fill rate (bilinear filtered): 5.4 Gigatexels/sec
Pixel fill rate: 2.7 Gigapixels/sec
Anti-aliased pixel fill rate: 10.8 Gigasamples/sec
Memory clock speed: 800 MHz DDR3
Memory data rate: 1.6 Gbps DDR3
Memory bandwidth: 12.8 GB/sec
TDP: 11 Watts

That's a low-end card, barely faster than the 4550 and nowhere near the 4650 (which has 320 stream processing units, a pixel fill rate of 5.2GP/s and memory bandwidth of 22.4GB/s with GDDR3).

It's far to slow to expect it to handle DirectX 10 effects in practical gaming, let alone DirectX 11 despite technically being able to run them.
#14
Shocking company to deal with - as some of the other posters have noted.
Made the mistake of buying a Mesh in 2000. Had faulty RAM on delivery. Kept trying to tell them but they don't listen. You must uninstall this and re-install that bla bla bla. After about a week they finally issued an RMA to allow me to send it back. Lost the use of it for weeks as it too ages for them to repair it.
Been Mesh-free and very happy since 2000.....yipeeeee !!!!!
#15
I'd love to see a poll on Mesh with a good range of voters... Unfortunately I don't really think polls give a true idea of the facts as you only ever hear the bad news. I can't criticise folk for this as I'm as guilty as the next man for ignoring polls on things I'm happy with. Vodafone springs to mind... I'd definitely vote on that poll. Can't stand the CS!

As I said, I'm going to be upgrading within the next few months and worry when I hear these stories. The fact is though that last time round there wasn't a problem. But then I never really had to get anything fixed - just advice and a bit of help sorting things out - which went as smooth as a proverbial baby's bum!

I know... I'll go to PC World and ask them what I should do!

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