Medion PC Package System 6409 £254.99 delivered (PC, 17" monitor and printer) - HotUKDeals
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I think this seems to be a good price for all this I know it wont be ideal for everyone but a cheap way of getting started all in one package for just over £250.


Medion Electronics
PC Package System 6409
Genuine Microsoft® Windows Vista® Home Basic, Celeron® D 3.46GHz, 512MB memory, 17" wide TFT & printer

Product Description

Great value PC package with Genuine Microsoft® Windows Vista® Home Basic (OEM version). This package has everything you need to get started including a PC with massive 250GB hard disc drive - plenty of space for all your pictures, music and date, a 17" widescreen colour flat screen and Lexmark printer.



Features

PC

Genuine Microsoft® Windows Vista® Home Basic (OEM version)
Intel® Celeron® D Processor 360 3.46GHz (FSB533)
512 MB DDR2-RAM
250GB hard disc drive (7200rpm)
Dual Layer DVD writer (10xDVD+R9(DL), 10xDVD-R9(DL), 4xDVD-R(DL), 18xDVD-R, 6xDVD-RW, 18xDVD+R, 8xDVD+RW, 48xCD-R, 32xCD-RW, 12xDVD-RAM, 48xCD-ROM)
Integrated graphics VIA Chrome9 HC IGP onboard
Ethernet LAN 10/100 Mbit onboard
8 Channel high definition audio onboard
PS/2 keyboard and wheel mouse


Monitor

17" colour LCD TFT WXGA widescreen monitor with 2 built-in speakers
Maximum resolution 1280 x 1024
17" visable screen diagonal
On-screen display (OSD)
Typical viewing angle 140o /130o
Typical contrast 500:1
Typical brightness 250cd/m2
Typical response time 8ms
Integrated power supply (AC 100-240V ~ 50-60HZ)
Cables included:
1 x line power cord
1 x 15 pin sub-d connection cable
1 x audio cable


Printer

Lexmark Z640 colour printer
Resolution up to 4800 x 1200 dpi
Speeds:
Colour - up to 8 pages/min
Black & while - up to 14 pages/min


PC Connections
6 x USB 2.0
1 x serial port
1 x parallel port
2 x PS/2
1 x LAN
1 x VGA (D-sub)
1 x Line IN
1 x Mic IN
1 x Front line OUT
1 x Side surround line OUT
1 x Back surround line OUT
1 x Subwoofer-centre line OUT
PC Software Included
Genuine Microsoft® Windows Vista® Home Basic (OEM version)
Microsoft® Works 8.5 (OEM version)
Nero Burning ROM 7 (OEM version)
Nero Recode 2 (OEM version)
Warranty
12 Months


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#1
That is cheap perfectly acceptable for browsing and email even with vista basic.
#2
Nice find added some heat
#3
Everything is reasonable except the RAM.
#4
Nothing wrong with the RAM vista basic only needs 512mb.
#5
Its a low spec PC at a low price. To me, that doesn't fulfil the criteria of being a Hot Deal. Rather, it lets you save a little money by making (in my opinion) fairly large compromises, which is an entirely different thing.
#6
SilverBlack
Nothing wrong with the RAM vista basic only needs 512mb.


There is surviving and living well though! Vista basic will RUN on 512MB, but will run Lots lots better on 1gb or more. Easy and cheap to upgrade.. so not a bad price for a complete PC package.
#7
wizball
Its a low spec PC at a low price. To me, that doesn't fulfil the criteria of being a Hot Deal. Rather, it lets you save a little money by making (in my opinion) fairly large compromises, which is an entirely different thing.


That very much depends on the users requirements of a PC, this is fine for many users requirements.

A good find, voted HOT.
;-)
#8
Be careful, these medion PC's tend to use awful components, my buddy bought one and the hard drive they used is so damn noisy. Plus it runs pretty damn sluggishly and there tends to be very few RAM slots, wouldn't suprise me if this one had 2 slots with 256mb modules. Buyer beware, cheap computer, big sacrifices.

Of course if you're a chav or 12 year old myspace ***** then its perfect, snap it up!
#9
I hate to say it, but ick. The Celeron is a P4 model and will be hot and suck up the power... far better to go for one of the Dell offers and either go for the newer Celerons based on the Core 2 or even get a Core Duo or Core 2 Duo.

But, if you want to get a cheap printer which will cost the same as the whole machine to keep in ink over the first six months, fine... :P
#10
My o My... This is nasty cheap.. but if you can stretch to £300, you would probably get a much much better deal than that.. i agree re: celeron comment.. those are old celerons, based on the old P4 architecture...
#11
JustExtreme
Be careful, these medion PC's tend to use awful components, my buddy bought one and the hard drive they used is so damn noisy.



I have 2 Medion Computers , one is 8 years old, the other just over 2, one has a Seagate HD, the other has a Western Digital, I have never had a single problem with either computer, both are working 100%.


It is always the " my buddy " type that seem to be experts on everything.:roll:
#12
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;

Of course if you're a chav or 12 year old myspace ***** then its perfect, snap it up![/QUOTE]

I thought it was the Chavs and 12 year olds that needed high spec computers to play their moronic games on.;-)
#13
SilverBlack
Nothing wrong with the RAM vista basic only needs 512mb.


I disagree, 512mb RAM with any version of Vista is not enough to get the most from the computer, it will run like a snail.

The rest of the spec is fine for basic computing.

Steve
#14
Lexmark ink cartridges do cost quite a lot.....
#15
What I found interesting was that the same PC with WinXP is £80 more.

Paul.
#16
Oh for god's sake. This is an excellent deal! Why is it that the PC snobs always come out whenever a cheap PC is posted up? If you aren't a gamer, then this is PERFECTLY adequate. My parents use the web a lot, edit photos in Paint Shop Pro and use MSN etc. - they have a 2GHz Celeron PC with MUCH lower spec than this, and they barely use 20% of it's capability.

After all... there's no point in buying a 3 litre BMW when all you really need is a 1.2 litre Ford Fiesta....
banned#17
calibrax
Oh for god's sake. This is an excellent deal! Why is it that the PC snobs always come out whenever a cheap PC is posted up? If you aren't a gamer, then this is PERFECTLY adequate. My parents use the web a lot, edit photos in Paint Shop Pro and use MSN etc. - they have a 2GHz Celeron PC with MUCH lower spec than this, and they barely use 20% of it's capability.

After all... there's no point in buying a 3 litre BMW when all you really need is a 1.2 litre Ford Fiesta....


the pc snobs let people know what it would be good for and what it wouldnt be good for, you are quite right this would be useful for someone to use msn and the internet but thats it, they also correct information in this case 512mb of RAM would be sloooooooow on vista I would install xp on it if anything :gift:
#18
...and it's an ancient printer
#19
This PC is not up to running Vista and barely XP. If you buy it you might not regret it now but you will in next to no time.

OK, I have Vista Home Premium, but that eats 1.5GB of RAM when idling. Even if just surfing with XP on this you'd probably find it slow and would be able to hear your HDD chundering away each time you change web site as it would be heavily using a swap file due to insufficient memory. Also the CPU won't be that good at multi tasking and running calculations in say Excel.
#20
I don't know if this is a great deal or not but I'm still using a 4/5 year old pc with an Athlon 1600xp (1.4ghz) and 512 meg ram!

I have no problems at all with the machine, surfs the net perfectly adequately (after all, it's the broadband speed that makes most difference here) and it burns cd's, writes letters as quick as anything else.

You only need a super fast machine if you want to play games and have loads of applications running at the same time.
#21
retrogeezer;1449657
I don't know if this is a great deal or not but I'm still using a 4/5 year old pc with an Athlon 1600xp (1.4ghz) and 512 meg ram!

I have no problems at all with the machine, surfs the net perfectly adequately (after all, it's the broadband speed that makes most difference here) and it burns cd's, writes letters as quick as anything else.

You only need a super fast machine if you want to play games and have loads of applications running at the same time.


With Windows XP that would be fine... With Vista, I wish you good luck
#22
retrogeezer;1449657
I don't know if this is a great deal or not but I'm still using a 4/5 year old pc with an Athlon 1600xp (1.4ghz) and 512 meg ram!

I have no problems at all with the machine, surfs the net perfectly adequately (after all, it's the broadband speed that makes most difference here) and it burns cd's, writes letters as quick as anything else.

You only need a super fast machine if you want to play games and have loads of applications running at the same time.


Yeah, but you haven't got a Celeron CPU in your combo.
#23
so why this comment??

This PC is not up to running Vista and barely XP


My P3 1ghz laptop also runs XP perfectly fine, a 3.4 celeron must be far quicker!
#24
To add a bit more info...

XP will run fine on this PC, and yes it's normal now to see XP being offered at a higher price as retailers are advised to push Vista as the main choice.

It's not a 'great' PC for the money, but it is OK for basic computing as already mentioned.

The advice that 'pc snobs' (yes i'm one of them ha ha) are offering is to help people get the best so that they are not disappointed with a purchase.

I regually install similar entry level Vista PC's for customers and 90% of them end up coming back asking 'how can I speed this up!".

Also, if you want to opt for Vista it's advised to pay just a little more and get the Home Premium options as you will then gain a lot more featuers. Vista Basic is in fact a step down from XP home... no DVD playback decoder included etc etc.

You should not confuse the performance and speed of XP with Vista.

Steve
#25
My parents got a basic and equivalent XP Celeron PC (against my advice) to this a few years ago and they don't do anything the least bit challenging on it, but we quickly discovered that it wasn't fit for most purposes and was annoyingly slow doing most things at the best of times.

I've spent a lot of time upgrading it and tweaking it for them but the point is they would've been far better off spending a bit extra on something more powerful.

You can never future proof PC's, but my advice is if you can't afford the most powerful PC around get something not too far behind it.
#26
As my comments would put me in the "PC snobs" category, let me explain my thinking a little further...

1) This machine runs Vista, and having Vista on my machine I know the demands that puts on a PC. I simply fear that this machine would run slowly. Potentially, all that will do is create unhappy owners.

2) My neighbour's PC is an entry level machine from a few years back (XP with 256MB). It had never been superfast, but was completely crippled by a new release of an Internet Security Suite. Certain software will have to be upgraded, and you run the risk of a similar result with this machine.

3) As mentioned by others, a quite substantailly better PC could probably be bought by spending an extra £50 - £100. Many of the people likely to buy an entry-level PC don't have the "upgrade mentality". They (quite reasonably) expect to buy a machine and just have it run for years as well as it did the day they bought it. Some extra investment up front to get a machine that would run the course would provide a much better fit for their "User Requirements".

I am not trying to be a snob, simply thinking of the people who might be tempted to buy the machine.
#27
This PC at the very least requires another 1gb of RAM inside it - Vista doesn't play nice with anything less, no matter what you're using the PC for.

This isn't one of the better PC deals out there to be honest, the components alone suggest it's badly built.

A similar PC with better specs (1gb RAM, better monitor, better processor) comes to £225 on eBuyer (from components), which would probably perform 50% faster.

Quite simply, spending £250 on a PC like this isn't value for money - the sweet spot for price/performance is approximately £350 if buying components and assembling them yourself, if you don't play games - if you do, the sweet spot is £500.
#28
Dmoz;1449890
This PC at the very least requires another 1gb of RAM inside it - Vista doesn't play nice with anything less, no matter what you're using the PC for.

This isn't one of the better PC deals out there to be honest, the components alone suggest it's badly built.

A similar PC with better specs (1gb RAM, better monitor, better processor) comes to £225 on eBuyer (from components), which would probably perform 50% faster.

Quite simply, spending £250 on a PC like this isn't value for money - the sweet spot for price/performance is approximately £350 if buying components and assembling them yourself, if you don't play games - if you do, the sweet spot is £500.



The limited amount of memory IS the problem... Not the processor. The issue is made worse by the fact that the memory is shared... And I guess that 64MB of it or more is dedicated to the graphic modules which leaves only 448MB to the OS... Pitiful..

MikeT posted a couple of Sub-£200 Dell , which represents a much better purchase.
#29
RedOnRed
This PC is not up to running Vista and barely XP. If you buy it you might not regret it now but you will in next to no time.


The PC could very easily run XP, that's a load of ballcocks. However, Vista will be very sluggish and after a month or so you'll regret buying this machine. And yeah, you could upgrade the RAM - but from the looks of things this package is aimed at someone who just wants everything straight off the shelf, with no mucking about.

Go with one of the cheap, core 2 duo dells.
#30
slotbadger;1450046
The PC could very easily run XP, that's a load of ballcocks. However, Vista will be very sluggish and after a month or so you'll regret buying this machine. And yeah, you could upgrade the RAM - but from the looks of things this package is aimed at someone who just wants everything straight off the shelf, with no mucking about.

Go with one of the cheap, core 2 duo dells.


Yes, it might quite easily run XP but then it depends on what you might want to run on the PC afterwards. If you just want internet access and to run text files then why not find some clunky 10 year old Windows 95 PC for under £100 and save even more money.
#31
Inactive
I have 2 Medion Computers , one is 8 years old, the other just over 2, one has a Seagate HD, the other has a Western Digital, I have never had a single problem with either computer, both are working 100%.


It is always the " my buddy " type that seem to be experts on everything.:roll:

I didn't say they were shyte, I meant just not to expect too much from them. Medion do make some good computers, at the moment it just doesn't seem like the low-end options are really the best available.
#32
Lets assume that the monitor is worth £70 and the printer is £25.

That makes the PC, £160. For this spec, thats an awful price. The RAM is completely inadequate for Vista and will only give you bad impressions of Vista purely because Medion have made a bad system.

The only thing in the pc with any real value is the OS and Hard drive. Every other component costs about £10 -£20 each.

OS - £50
Hard drive - £40
RAM - <£10
Motherboard - £20 at most
DVDRW - £15
CPU - £20

= £155

Stick to Dells at this price point. At least you get the newer celerons which have much better technology and a half decent motherboard. The onboard graphics on this computer is several years old an completely inadequate for modern pcs. Value cards like tnt2 from the pentium 2 era are better than the onboard graphics here.

Even th most basics Dell pc

http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/desktops_good?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs

is significantly better. Im sure there are also better dell deals to be found here on hotukdeals.
#33
In a nut shell...cheap short term, expensive long term, another 512mb ram and it could have been a different story....I agree with the posters who say check out dell, as they build to order their components tend to be more up to date.
#34
Agent_Silver;1451394
In a nut shell...cheap short term, expensive long term, another 512mb ram and it could have been a different story....I agree with the posters who say check out dell, as they build to order their components tend to be more up to date.


I'd go along with most of that but would recommend at least 2GB of RAM with Vista, especially with a Celeron CPU.
#35
RedOnRed
I'd go along with most of that but would recommend at least 2GB of RAM with Vista, especially with a Celeron CPU.


To be fair I have just ordered one of Mike T's deals with 2gb ram and dedicated graphics so as not to share, however, for basic surfing and email 1gb fine, if however you wish to edit photos or even run 2 or more programmes at once and you are sharing ram 2gb is better
#36
Amusing to see that despite the fact the majority of comments suggest this isn't such a great deal, the temperature keeps soaring! One would have to conclude that for a lot of people low cost = bargain.

However, perhaps the most telling fact is that we haven't seen any comments of the ilk "Great find - ordered two!" (although no doubt my mentioning that will spawn a few jokers).
#37
JustExtreme
I didn't say they were shyte, I meant just not to expect too much from them. Medion do make some good computers, at the moment it just doesn't seem like the low-end options are really the best available.



Nor did I say that you said they were.;-)

Nobody is forced to buy this computer, the heat shows that others disagree with most views on here anyway.

Not everybody needs a high end computer.
#38
support can be found here:

[url]www.medionsupport.com[/url]
#39
freebiehunter
I disagree, 512mb RAM with any version of Vista is not enough to get the most from the computer, it will run like a snail.

The rest of the spec is fine for basic computing.

Steve


Completely agree as well - 512MB will provide function but will struggle once you start doing anything of a mulitmedia nature.

1GB is what I'd consider the bare minimum in normal basic usage.

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