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LOOK AT THE SPECS OF THIS LITTTLE GEM FOR ONLY £499

QUAD CORE / BLUE RAY DUAL LAYER / HGH DEF AUDIO / 1000GB HARD DRIVE
ETC ETC....

Card Reader
Wired keyboard with multimedia keys
wired Mouse
graphics - nVidia GeForce 9300GS
Hard Drive size - 1000GB
Hard Drive Type - SATA
Memory - 3GB
Number of PCI Express Ports - 2x
Number of USB Ports - 6x USB 2.0
Operating System - Windows Vista Home Premium
Optical Drive - DVD Rewriter
Optical Drive Blu-ray Compatible
Processor - Intel Core 2 Quad
Processor Bus - 1066MHz
Processor Cache 8MB
Processor Model Number - Q6600
Processor Speed - 2.4GHz
Product Depth - 41 cm
Product Height - 37 cm
Product Width -18 cm

Software Load MS Works 9.0 incl MS Office H+S edition trial 60 days/Home Cinema 2007BD Suite/Bero Burning ROM and Recode 2SE

TV Tuner Yes
Wireless Built in No
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#1
I vote cold on the basis that:
a) if I were to build a system, the component costs (including Vista, bluray, DVD, MB, CPU, GPU, RAM, kb, mouse, case) etc come to about £450 (though I can't find the GPU anywhere atm; even then, if I was building a PC I'd get something a little better for a little more so the Q6600 wasn't wasted so much); and,
b) I'd rather purchase the £300 Dell Q6600 at Tesco and use the £200 for the BluRay (£75), extra Ram (£12) and 750GB HDD (£60) leaving me £50 left - if I wanted those components...

If I'm missing something in my assessment of value I apologise. And yes, I know there's the argument over pre-built vs components; which is why I compared this deal to the Dell Q6600 with simple upgrades (and I think that's a relatively fair comparison... though others may choose to differ).
#2
The Dell one on Tesco has been OOS for a while so you cant really compare as you cant get it !

For an off the shelf PC i think it looks good value, some people are not intrested or know how to upgrade.
#3
If its £450 alone for all the parts, £500 for the whole unit is reasonably solid value, since you normally pay a massive premium for a prebuilt + delivery./
#4
glumglum
If its £450 alone for all the parts, £500 for the whole unit is reasonably solid value, since you normally pay a massive premium for a prebuilt + delivery./


hmmm, not if you buy from Dell when they decide they need to unload a bucket load of systems, which happens on a pretty regular basis. Last system I bought from Dell was about £150 cheaper than I could buy the bits for excluding the OS.
Cold for me ....
#5
deanos
The Dell one on Tesco has been OOS for a while so you cant really compare as you cant get it !

For an off the shelf PC i think it looks good value, some people are not intrested or know how to upgrade.


This one?

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.204-0126.aspx

I just added it to my basket and went to checkout without a warning; but if you're sure it's out of stock, then sorry.
#6
just goin from mem and guestimate cos i check prices weekly, the parts for this are roughly
cpu =120
mem=40
os=70
case+psu 30
bd/dvd=70
mb=30
gfx=15
dvb-t tuner=20
hdd=65
kb+mse=10
you will only get these prices via internet so add another 10 on for delivery,, anyway total is £480, uuuummm seems hot to spend £20 to get this built and tested, don't know where you guys getting your prices from?
oops forgot to add a copy of works!!, say another 10, not my cup of tea as weak on gfx but no where near as cold as claimed
#7
Trosticles
This one?

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.204-0126.aspx

I just added it to my basket and went to checkout without a warning; but if you're sure it's out of stock, then sorry.


Was OOS yesterday
#8
deanos;2946367
Was OOS yesterday


I have looked at this about ten times in the last 14 days or so, because someone else said it was OOS, and it has always been in stock for me!
#9
Tesco one is onboard graphics isnt it
#10
killie99
hmmm, not if you buy from Dell when they decide they need to unload a bucket load of systems, which happens on a pretty regular basis. Last system I bought from Dell was about £150 cheaper than I could buy the bits for excluding the OS.
Cold for me ....


Agreed. There are regularly systems posted here that are less than the sum of their parts. However, those parts usually include Vista and various components many wouldn't trust so the highly subjective question of value becomes so contentious - is there more value in getting it off the shelf, or being able to choose your parts? How much is one worth more than the other?

Either way, I wouldn't pay £50 for someone to put parts together that I don't even really want. I don't mind it so much where there is a discount or similar price (like the Dell Q6600 system on Tesco which is probably worth about £310 for parts and software). But for me it's more hassle replacing the parts I don't want than it is putting the whole thing together...
banned#11
Trosticles;2946801
Agreed. There are regularly systems posted here that are less than the sum of their parts. However, those parts usually include Vista and various components many wouldn't trust so the highly subjective question of value becomes so contentious - is there more value in getting it off the shelf, or being able to choose your parts? How much is one worth more than the other?

Either way, I wouldn't pay £50 for someone to put parts together that I don't even really want. I don't mind it so much where there is a discount or similar price (like the Dell Q6600 system on Tesco which is probably worth about £310 for parts and software). But for me it's more hassle replacing the parts I don't want than it is putting the whole thing together...


What you "nerds" forget is the majority of people do not know how to build a system or havent got the time to do it so for most normal people it's a good deal
1 Like #12
SHOWMAN36
What you "nerds" forget is the majority of people do not know how to build a system or havent got the time to do it so for most normal people it's a good deal


That's a little rich.

Since I've prefaced all my opinions with "for me" and referred to the fact that others place more value on having an off the shelf system, I've clearly made all comments specifically with this in mind. That was the point of this part of my post:

Trosticles

...And yes, I know there's the argument over pre-built vs components; which is why I compared this deal to the Dell Q6600 with simple upgrades (and I think that's a relatively fair comparison... though others may choose to differ).


So are we not supposed to voice our own opinions? Should I try to speak for the masses and make the assumption that I know what's best? I note that you are speaking for "most normal people" - please let me know who these people are. If these people - apparently a majority - want their opinion heard, then surely this will become hot soon enough. Is that not enough for you? Or is it imperative for you to try to silence those with constructive opinions of their own - people who choose to put their opinions forward fairly, without derogatory slights - despite the purpose of a public forum?

Yep, I think your comment is a little rich...
banned#13
Trosticles;2947267
That's a little rich.

Since I've prefaced all my opinions with "for me" and referred to the fact that others place more value on having an off the shelf system, I've clearly made all comments specifically with this in mind. That was the point of this part of my post:



So are we not supposed to voice our own opinions? Should I try to speak for the masses and make the assumption that I know what's best? I note that you are speaking for "most normal people" - please let me know who these people are. If these people - apparently a majority - want their opinion heard, then surely this will become hot soon enough. Is that not enough for you? Or is it imperative for you to try to silence those with constructive opinions of their own - people who choose to put their opinions forward fairly, without derogatory slights - despite the purpose of a public forum?

Yep, I think your comment is a little rich...


If the majority of normal people built their own systems then there would not be a big market in prebuilt systems, as there is the only conclusion must be that the majority of people buy prebuilt systems. Have you never heard of the "silent majority?........did I call you a nerd?.......sorry, I meant "geek"
1 Like #14
killie99
hmmm, not if you buy from Dell when they decide they need to unload a bucket load of systems, which happens on a pretty regular basis. Last system I bought from Dell was about £150 cheaper than I could buy the bits for excluding the OS.
Cold for me ....


This is because DELL bulk buy all the components and save a huuuuge amount. They still make profit.

Any pre-built system builders can do what DELL do and buy in bulk so if you can make this yourself for £450, they can almost certainly make it for less than £400
#15
SHOWMAN36
If the majority of normal people built their own systems then there would not be a big market in prebuilt systems, as there is the only conclusion must be that the majority of people buy prebuilt systems. Have you never heard of the "silent majority?........did I call you a nerd?.......sorry, I meant "geek"


Terribly original there. Not only have you done terribly well avoiding responding to most of the flaws in your original comments that I pointed, but you have also done soooo well justifying that other random assertion. Your arguments are just so overwhelming:
"a big market in pre-built systems" = "the majority of people don't build their own systems"

You're right. There are no stores selling components. They're tough to find - anyone got a link to a store that sells components? No? Ah well, I guess I can't argue the converse:
"a big market in components" = "the majority of people don't buy pre-built systems"

The question is actually this: if the majority of people (that have elected you their leader, apparently) buy pre-built systems, shouldn't this deal be hot? It may get hot if this "silent majority" start to vote then... And if it does, fair enough - I'm all for deals reflecting what the majority think is hot - kinda the point of voting, wouldn't you say?

But if this majority is silent, the heat of any deals would never get hot due to them - the hot deals have been voted hot by, presumably, the vocal minority. And the silent majority must be relying on the views of the vocal minority to indicate what a good deal is. So either:
1. they agree with the vocal minority and buy goods according to the vocal minority's views. But then this silent majority has the same view as the vocal minority, so with everyone in agreement, the vocal minority actually becomes the vocal majority, leaving only a "silent minority" - heard of them?; or
2. they disagree with the vocal minority and buy goods according to the opposite of the vocal minority's views. Then they stay the silent majority and only look for cold deals. In which case, I've done them a favour by voting this cold.

It seems that either way, then, as a vocal minority member, I should have voted this cold - for the benefit of this silent majority to which you refer.

And thank you. I'd much rather be a geek than an ignorant child.
banned#16
Trosticles;2947633
Terribly original there. Not only have you done terribly well avoiding responding to most of the flaws in your original comments that I pointed, but you have also done soooo well justifying that other random assertion. Your arguments are just so overwhelming:
"a big market in pre-built systems" = "the majority of people don't build their own systems"

You're right. There are no stores selling components. They're tough to find - anyone got a link to a store that sells components? No? Ah well, I guess I can't argue the converse:
"a big market in components" = "the majority of people don't buy pre-built systems"

The question is actually this: if the majority of people (that have elected you their leader, apparently) buy pre-built systems, shouldn't this deal be hot? It may get hot if this "silent majority" start to vote then... And if it does, fair enough - I'm all for deals reflecting what the majority think is hot - kinda the point of voting, wouldn't you say?

But if this majority is silent, the heat of any deals would never get hot due to them - the hot deals have been voted hot by, presumably, the vocal minority. And the silent majority must be relying on the views of the vocal minority to indicate what a good deal is. So either:
1. they agree with the vocal minority and buy goods according to the vocal minority's views. But then this silent majority has the same view as the vocal minority, so with everyone in agreement, the vocal minority actually becomes the vocal majority, leaving only a "silent minority" - heard of them?; or
2. they disagree with the vocal minority and buy goods according to the opposite of the vocal minority's views. Then they stay the silent majority and only look for cold deals. In which case, I've done them a favour by voting this cold.

It seems that either way, then, as a vocal minority member, I should have voted this cold - for the benefit of this silent majority to which you refer.

And thank you. I'd much rather be a geek than an ignorant child.


Actually what I think you are geek is a big headed pillock, of course, this is only my opinion
#17
SHOWMAN36
Actually what I think you are geek is a big headed pillock, of course, this is only my opinion


Mature.
banned#18
Trosticles;2947668
Mature.


Pillock
banned#19
got a rake of these in tesco greenock,too expensive for me though!
banned#20
Trosticles;2947633
Terribly original there. Not only have you done terribly well avoiding responding to most of the flaws in your original comments that I pointed, but you have also done soooo well justifying that other random assertion. Your arguments are just so overwhelming:
"a big market in pre-built systems" = "the majority of people don't build their own systems"

You're right. There are no stores selling components. They're tough to find - anyone got a link to a store that sells components? No? Ah well, I guess I can't argue the converse:
"a big market in components" = "the majority of people don't buy pre-built systems"

The question is actually this: if the majority of people (that have elected you their leader, apparently) buy pre-built systems, shouldn't this deal be hot? It may get hot if this "silent majority" start to vote then... And if it does, fair enough - I'm all for deals reflecting what the majority think is hot - kinda the point of voting, wouldn't you say?

But if this majority is silent, the heat of any deals would never get hot due to them - the hot deals have been voted hot by, presumably, the vocal minority. And the silent majority must be relying on the views of the vocal minority to indicate what a good deal is. So either:
1. they agree with the vocal minority and buy goods according to the vocal minority's views. But then this silent majority has the same view as the vocal minority, so with everyone in agreement, the vocal minority actually becomes the vocal majority, leaving only a "silent minority" - heard of them?; or
2. they disagree with the vocal minority and buy goods according to the opposite of the vocal minority's views. Then they stay the silent majority and only look for cold deals. In which case, I've done them a favour by voting this cold.

It seems that either way, then, as a vocal minority member, I should have voted this cold - for the benefit of this silent majority to which you refer.

And thank you. I'd much rather be a geek than an ignorant child.


If you are telling me that the majority of people build their own systems each year rather than buying a prebuilt system then you are quite simply wrong.
This thread has now been viewed by over 250 people nowhere near that figure have voted either way in fact most people dont vote on a deal at all so your arguments do not stand up.
Now I'm pretty sure that the average Joe in the street given the chance to either build a system for themselves or pay £50 for someone to do it for them would choose the latter,I'm over the moon for you that you are clever enough to build a system yourself but most people can't.
#21
SHOWMAN36;2947440
If the majority of normal people built their own systems then there would not be a big market in prebuilt systems, as there is the only conclusion must be that the majority of people buy prebuilt systems. Have you never heard of the "silent majority?........did I call you a nerd?.......sorry, I meant "geek"


I buy prebuilt systems, after building myself, and for friends etc. for years. Now, Dell can buy stuff FAR FAR cheaper than I can. The choice to build my own USED to be based on necessity, as a prebuilt system then was SO expensive, and doing it yourself saved a fortune. Things have changed. Only a masochist with a money wasting complex would do that at this level of the market now! In the past when this was the best option, there was STILL a healthy market in prebuilt though - because those who could not build them would require this, it is not totally linked to the abilities of those computer users, but also to what they want to PAY!

Minor alterations to pre built systems that I mostly see suggested on here are almost ALL capable of being carried out by my aged mother, and I was not aware she was either a nerd OR a geek!

eg. RAM upgrade on a Dell 530 involves ONE screw, lifting away cover, pushing in two RAM modules in a slot which can ONLY be put in one way, and replacing the cover screw.
A graphics card, is little more complex.

I would not put building your own system in the same category as minor updates like this. That is a lot more involved and requires far more decision making too.
banned#22
nihcaj;2947832
I buy prebuilt systems, after building myself, and for friends etc. for years. Now, Dell can buy stuff FAR FAR cheaper than I can. The choice to build my own USED to be based on necessity, as a prebuilt system then was SO expensive, and doing it yourself saved a fortune. Things have changed. Only a masochist with a money wasting complex would do that at this level of the market now! In the past when this was the best option, there was STILL a healthy market in prebuilt though - because those who could not build them would require this, it is not totally linked to the abilities of those computer users, but also to what they want to PAY!

Minor alterations to pre built systems that I mostly see suggested on here are almost ALL capable of being carried out by my aged mother, and I was not aware she was either a nerd OR a geek!

eg. RAM upgrade on a Dell 530 involves ONE screw, lifting away cover, pushing in two RAM modules in a slot which can ONLY be put in one way, and replacing the cover screw.
A graphics card, is little more complex.

I would not put building your own system in the same category as minor updates like this. That is a lot more involved and requires far more decision making too.


And your point is? we are talking about building a system NOW not 10 years ago. Not upgrading components which I agree your mother could probably do. Our friendly geek was telling us he could build the system for £50 less than you could buy it in this deal.and my point was that the average punter would still pay the extra £50 and have it built for him.
#23
SHOWMAN36;2947857
And your point is? we are talking about building a system NOW not 10 years ago. Not upgrading components which I agree your mother could probably do. Our friendly geek was telling us he could build the system for £50 less than you could buy it in this deal.and my point was that the average punter would still pay the extra £50 and have it built for him.


My, my we are having a bad day. Take it out on someone else.

My ignore list now has one more member
banned#24
nihcaj;2947967
My, my we are having a bad day. Take it out on someone else.

My ignore list now has one more member


Not sure what your point is? I was agreeing with you.you were talking about changing components the whole argument was about building a complete system.EVERY time a pc system is posted on here there are the "I can build it cheaper brigade" who immediately vote it cold,my only point being this is not a valid point of view as the majority of people couldnt build it themselves,if someone takes their car to be serviced and it cost's £100 if you did it yourself it would only cost you £40 the reason most people dont do it and save the money is because they dont know how to.
banned#25
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
#26
copthis1
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what he said.......
#27
nihcaj
My, my we are having a bad day. Take it out on someone else.

My ignore list now has one more member


Couldn't agree more nihcaj - perhaps her time of the month... How do you set up an ignore list on here? I'll look into it now.
#28
Trosticles;2953040
How do you set up an ignore list on here? I'll look into it now.


Click on name, bring up public profile, the option is there, remember to save.

Used often, & used early it dramatically reduces trolling & stress. Just remember not to be tempted to peek!
#29
SHOWMAN36
If you are telling me that the majority of people build their own systems each year rather than buying a prebuilt system then you are quite simply wrong.


Er... no - stop trying to put words in other people's mouths.

SHOWMAN36
This thread has now been viewed by over 250 people nowhere near that figure have voted either way in fact most people dont vote on a deal at all so your arguments do not stand up.


This makes no sense. My argument was that if you want to make arbitrary arguments saying I shouldn't be allowed to put my opinion forward, I can easily counter that with assumptions as to why I should put it forward. You have actually just supported my argument - all you've said is that most people don't vote. If this is correct then the vocal minority's votes determine the heat of a deal.... which is what I said.... and what you just agreed to.... so what argument are you referring to?

SHOWMAN36
Now I'm pretty sure that the average Joe in the street given the chance to either build a system for themselves or pay £50 for someone to do it for them would choose the latter,I'm over the moon for you that you are clever enough to build a system yourself but most people can't.


I'll repeat it for you one last time. I put forward myopinion - at least (rather than just clicking cold and moving on) I gave reasons that people can read, disagree with if they choose and make their own mind up as to whether to purchase. MY OPINION was that I would not pay that £50 and that I would prefer to choose my components. I also stated that I consider the cheaper Tesco deal a better value pre-built system to which I would add a bluray drive and ram - I even said that I think this is a fair comparison, though, and I quote my original post, "others may choose to differ". I agree, if there are no comparable products out there, this is a hot deal, but I put forward 2 options that I consider both comparable and hotter - though, once again, others may choose to differ. Perhaps a more constructive reply from you would have read:

"Thanks for your input, Trosticles. However, I wouldn't compare this to a system that needs any upgrades, no matter how simple or complex. Therefore I consider this deal hot."

Excuse me if I'm not allowed to post my own justified opinion while you're allowed to post random insults and assertions.
#30
Well walked in Tesco's and got one.
I am so impressed by the quietness of it.
Started to have problems first evening because of Bulguard the free antivirus checker. Have taken that off and used Virgin media's virus one.
Have not had any problems since.
Decided to replace my 13 year old laser printer as this has no parrell port.. and a google says people have had problems getting HP laserjet 5p to work.

Well I voted this hot. Did not use theie keyboard or mouse.

Dom
#31
SHOWMAN36
And your point is? we are talking about building a system NOW not 10 years ago. Not upgrading components which I agree your mother could probably do. Our friendly geek was telling us he could build the system for £50 less than you could buy it in this deal.and my point was that the average punter would still pay the extra £50 and have it built for him.


SHOWMAN36
Not sure what your point is? I was agreeing with you.you were talking about changing components the whole argument was about building a complete system.EVERY time a pc system is posted on here there are the "I can build it cheaper brigade" who immediately vote it cold,my only point being this is not a valid point of view as the majority of people couldnt build it themselves,if someone takes their car to be serviced and it cost's £100 if you did it yourself it would only cost you £40 the reason most people dont do it and save the money is because they dont know how to.


And again... READ. We are talking about upgrading components which you agree nihcaj's mother could do. The "whole argument" was not about "building a complete system".
What we are also talking about, and what the other half of the argument is, I explained in post 1: the option of simple upgrades to the £300 Dell Q6600.

Read post 1, perhaps, before blazing away - I gave two clear justifications for my opinion and you have just admitted being ignorant of the main one that I stated I was basing my vote on.
1 Like #32
You can get £5 off using the code on the voucher ssection.
You also get 998 points worth nearly £40 in deals.

This brings it down to around £454

I found it was in stock



£499-£5 -£9.98(in points) = £483.98
£499 - £5 - £40(in deals) = £454
#33
Trosticles
, I explained in post 1: the option of simple upgrades to the £300 Dell Q6600.
.


Why go around faffing around upgrading when there is one ready made off the shelf, as mentioned alot of times most PC users dont know how to upgrade or even want to
#34
deanos;2954456
Why go around faffing around upgrading when there is one ready made off the shelf, as mentioned alot of times most PC users dont know how to upgrade or even want to


You never had a pair of trousers altered when the ones you want don't come in the right length? Do without, or alter them?
Why add a kitchen extension when you can buy a brand new house, right up to spec?
Why cook a meal when there are perfectly good restaurants out there?
Why grow vegetables when there are frozen ready meals?

Same sorts of reasons.
Things like cost, money available now as opposed to later, needs, wants, flexibility, changing circumstances, brand loyalty... I could go on, but this is a bit of a lost cause, and tied up in one-way thinking.

Carrying out Simple work in customising a pre-built machine means you can opt for exactly what you want, at a potentially low price, without the full risk and expense of a fully customised build by yourself or someone else.

As for not knowing, in the same way, not everyone is a trained chef, but they can usually pick up enough knowledge to prevent starvation setting in, with the help of family, friends, tv, books, whatever, this is the same - do the basics yourself, you don't need much knowledge when people are telling you how to do it the easy way. Doing it ALL needs more knowledge, so let Dell, HP, Acer or whoever do the ground work for you.

In almost every other area of purchasing, this is exactly what you do, mix & match until you get what you want, or do you always buy the exact items that are on the dummy in the clothes shop window, or decorate your house like the showhome? - Why would it not work well when you want a PC, it isn't a sealed box either? Doing it this way means I have a PC that is the spec I want, with the minimum expenditure on what system builders deem extras, with only slight effort, and actually a bit of satisfaction too.
#35
:thumbsup:Its ready, its on the shelf, its got more spec than most @ the price and will deliver on just about any game you throw at it. Pity a few of the contributions got side tracked...those who are looking to upgrade to something that will be good for a few years to come spec wise (quad core way to go!) and want a Blu-ray player...I consider this a great buy:thumbsup:
#36
4folkssake;3030117
:thumbsup:Its ready, its on the shelf, its got more spec than most @ the price and will deliver on just about any game you throw at it. Pity a few of the contributions got side tracked...those who are looking to upgrade to something that will be good for a few years to come spec wise (quad core way to go!) and want a Blu-ray player...I consider this a great buy:thumbsup:


Am staggered that this isn't hotter, ok I think the Dell deal is better but that is more or less gone since Tesco don't have them in stock. I agree with you, there is nothing that needs upgrading within a year unless u have real heavy demands, definately a good buy.
#37
bookshifter;3067437
Am staggered that this isn't hotter, ok I think the Dell deal is better but that is more or less gone since Tesco don't have them in stock. I agree with you, there is nothing that needs upgrading within a year unless u have real heavy demands, definately a good buy.


If you are staggered, I would suggest re-reading the thread, as the benefits of one model over another are rarely so clear among deals listed on these pages; however, it would probably be a waste of time - Not only is the Dell probably not available anywhere now (although recent threads have mentioned it being available in-store in a couple of places, this thread is now so old, I doubt any Aldi stores have that machine either, certainly the two stores nearest me have not had any for some time, and they are moving on to a new totally different spec machine on an offer later this week I think.

At thread that has been effectively dormant for some time, or where the offer is weeks ago isn't likely to be extant, let alone hot!

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