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Microsoft Surface Pro 4 12.3 Inch M3 with Keyboard - £699 [Now £679.00 + £10 voucher] @ Argos

£679.00 @ Argos
Powered by an Intel® Core™ M3-6Y30 Processor the Surface Pro 4 gives you the amazing performance of a laptop plus the long battery life of a tablet in one device. The 12.3 PixelSense™ screen has extre…
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Powered by an Intel® Core™ M3-6Y30 Processor the Surface Pro 4 gives you the amazing performance of a laptop plus the long battery life of a tablet in one device. The 12.3 PixelSense™ screen has extremely high contrast and low glare so you can work through the day without straining your eyes. Go from tablet to laptop in a snap with the multi-position Kickstand and improved keyboard.

The versatility of a laptop and tablet in one. Surface pro 4 powers through everything you need to do, while being lighter than ever before. He 12.3 Pixelsense™ screen has extremely high contrast and low glare so you can work through the day without straining your eyes. Go from tablet to laptop in a snap with the multi-position kickstand and improved keyboard.
Exceptional performance. Surface Pro 4 with 6th gen Intel® core™ M3, i5, and i7 processors is not only more powerful – it is quieter, runs cooler and is even more efficient than before, .

CPU, Memory and Operating System:

Intel m3-6y30 dual core processor.
0.9GHz processor speed.
4GB RAM.
128GB solid state hard drive.
Microsoft Windows 10.

Display features:

12.3 inch screen.
High definition display.

Graphics:

Intel HD Graphics515 graphics card.
Shared graphics card.
Dedicated graphics card.

Interfaces and connectivity:

1 USB 3.0 port.
Bluetooth.

Multimedia features:

Built-in webcam.
Built-in mic.
Dolby sound system.

Software included: no.

General features:

Up to 9 hours battery life.
Size H20.1, W29.21, D0.8cm.
Weight 0.77kg.
EAN: 889842014006.

Edit: £10 gift card also (thanks Interloper it slipped my mind)

EDIT: Credit to NeoTrix for editing the price to £679.

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trakker1
roycom
iz123456789
Finally a decent price from Microsoft for Surfaces but I dont know how I feel about M3 processor... its pretty basic!
Looking at benchmarks it's about the same speed as a 35 quid Celeron. oO
Mind you, the Celerons at that price are surprisingly good value for money.
The specs are far from mind blowing but if you look at the pros and cons this could suit some people's needs.
It's far cheaper than the i5 and i7 variants, has no fan, cooler and marginally lighter. This also includes the keyboard.
On forums I've looked at people have been very happy with this model, it's a nice middle ground from tablet to PC I would say.

I'm not saying it's a bad device or price and it might be perfect for some people, but personally, I wouldn't touch a 700 pound device with a cheap as chips Celeron equivalent in it. But that's just me....

Edited By: roycom on Nov 10, 2016 16:17
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ZapGod
fishmaster
Way way cheaper than a Mac, but Windows 10 is a disaster, I use Windows 10 everyday and it's urgh such a horrible OS. I had to install XP on a customer machine and the icons in XP look next gen compared to Windows 10! No one uses the Windows store, no one. There's been 3 versions of Windows 10 so far so they've had 3 goes at getting it right and more versions to come, I dislike the nasty ugly buggy crappy OS. Right click menu is way better in Windows though, I miss that in OSX when I use it. I bet you've guessed by now that I don't like Windows 10, the only reason to use it is DX12 and I hope Vulkan eventually kills off that reason.
I am amazed you hate Windows 10
I absolutely adore it and have used Macs and every flavour of Windows.
Swapped to Macs because of Vista but now loving everything Microsoft these days.
I am going to buy a Surface Studio next.

There isn't a perfect OS, however Windows 10 is far from perfect. I use MacOS (formerly OSX), Windows 10 and Linux, they all p*ss me off to some extent, just Windows 10 does a much better job of p*ssing me off than the rest.

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#1
Nice machine, bought a rose gold spectre x360 other day for about £200 more with bigger SSD, 8gb ram and a 6th gen i5 with 10-12hr battery life, better vfm imo.

edit - was £200

Edited By: jaydeeuk1 on Nov 10, 2016 10:02
1 Like #2
jaydeeuk1
Nice machine, bought a rose gold spectre x360 other day for about £200 more with bigger SSD, 8gb ram and a 6th gen i5 with 10-12hr battery life, better vfm imo.
edit - was £200
out of interest, where did you get a machine like that for £200
3 Likes #3
bouncy99
jaydeeuk1
Nice machine, bought a rose gold spectre x360 other day for about £200 more with bigger SSD, 8gb ram and a 6th gen i5 with 10-12hr battery life, better vfm imo.
edit - was £200
out of interest, where did you get a machine like that for £200

Think he said £200 more than this Surface
1 Like #4
Finally a decent price from Microsoft for Surfaces but I dont know how I feel about M3 processor... its pretty basic!
#5
iz123456789
Finally a decent price from Microsoft for Surfaces but I dont know how I feel about M3 processor... its pretty basic!

Looking at benchmarks it's about the same speed as a 35 quid Celeron. oO

Mind you, the Celerons at that price are surprisingly good value for money.

Edited By: roycom on Nov 10, 2016 14:37
2 Likes #6
roycom
iz123456789
Finally a decent price from Microsoft for Surfaces but I dont know how I feel about M3 processor... its pretty basic!
Looking at benchmarks it's about the same speed as a 35 quid Celeron. oO
Mind you, the Celerons at that price are surprisingly good value for money.

The specs are far from mind blowing but if you look at the pros and cons this could suit some people's needs.

It's far cheaper than the i5 and i7 variants, has no fan, cooler and marginally lighter. This also includes the keyboard.

On forums I've looked at people have been very happy with this model, it's a nice middle ground from tablet to PC I would say.
12 Likes #7
trakker1
roycom
iz123456789
Finally a decent price from Microsoft for Surfaces but I dont know how I feel about M3 processor... its pretty basic!
Looking at benchmarks it's about the same speed as a 35 quid Celeron. oO
Mind you, the Celerons at that price are surprisingly good value for money.
The specs are far from mind blowing but if you look at the pros and cons this could suit some people's needs.
It's far cheaper than the i5 and i7 variants, has no fan, cooler and marginally lighter. This also includes the keyboard.
On forums I've looked at people have been very happy with this model, it's a nice middle ground from tablet to PC I would say.

I'm not saying it's a bad device or price and it might be perfect for some people, but personally, I wouldn't touch a 700 pound device with a cheap as chips Celeron equivalent in it. But that's just me....

Edited By: roycom on Nov 10, 2016 16:17
1 Like #8
jaydeeuk1
Nice machine, bought a rose gold spectre x360 other day for about £200 more with bigger SSD, 8gb ram and a 6th gen i5 with 10-12hr battery life, better vfm imo.
edit - was £200
It's only better value if you don't need pen support. The x360 is a versatile laptop; the SP4 is a pen-enabled tablet with laptop functionality. Great machine you got there, though, at a decent price.

This is a great price including the Type Cover (m3 usually £749 + Type Cover £109). Don't forget you also get a £10 voucher for Argos purchases over £100, bringing this down to £689, a saving of £169. Heat!
#9
roycom
iz123456789
Finally a decent price from Microsoft for Surfaces but I dont know how I feel about M3 processor... its pretty basic!
Looking at benchmarks it's about the same speed as a 35 quid Celeron. oO
Mind you, the Celerons at that price are surprisingly good value for money.

You talking desktop or mobile celeron chips? :/
1 Like #10
Eez1
roycom
iz123456789
Finally a decent price from Microsoft for Surfaces but I dont know how I feel about M3 processor... its pretty basic!
Looking at benchmarks it's about the same speed as a 35 quid Celeron. oO
Mind you, the Celerons at that price are surprisingly good value for money.
You talking desktop or mobile celeron chips? :/

Desktop.
1 Like #11
roycom
Eez1
roycom
iz123456789
Finally a decent price from Microsoft for Surfaces but I dont know how I feel about M3 processor... its pretty basic!
Looking at benchmarks it's about the same speed as a 35 quid Celeron. oO
Mind you, the Celerons at that price are surprisingly good value for money.
You talking desktop or mobile celeron chips? :/
Desktop.

Apples and oranges dude X)
1 Like #12
Eez1
roycom
Eez1
roycom
iz123456789
Finally a decent price from Microsoft for Surfaces but I dont know how I feel about M3 processor... its pretty basic!
Looking at benchmarks it's about the same speed as a 35 quid Celeron. oO
Mind you, the Celerons at that price are surprisingly good value for money.
You talking desktop or mobile celeron chips? :/
Desktop.
Apples and oranges dude X)

Performance results are performance results dude....;)
1 Like #13
roycom
Eez1
roycom
Eez1
roycom
iz123456789
Finally a decent price from Microsoft for Surfaces but I dont know how I feel about M3 processor... its pretty basic!
Looking at benchmarks it's about the same speed as a 35 quid Celeron. oO
Mind you, the Celerons at that price are surprisingly good value for money.
You talking desktop or mobile celeron chips? :/
Desktop.
Apples and oranges dude X)
Performance results are performance results dude....;)

Yeah but fruit is fruit dude.
3 Likes #14
roycom
Eez1
roycom
Eez1
roycom
iz123456789
Finally a decent price from Microsoft for Surfaces but I dont know how I feel about M3 processor... its pretty basic!
Looking at benchmarks it's about the same speed as a 35 quid Celeron. oO
Mind you, the Celerons at that price are surprisingly good value for money.
You talking desktop or mobile celeron chips? :/
Desktop.
Apples and oranges dude X)
Performance results are performance results dude....;)

If you completely ignore all of the reasons you might need a portable machine, and you are comparing using the Surface only sat at your desk, and never moving to a desktop computer with a Wacom plugged in then sure.... your logic is sound.
1 Like #15
I got THIS a couple of weeks ago from Currys. How would the M3 cpu in the surface compare to the i3 the x360 i got?
I swapped out the HDD for a SSD i had and it flies. Should of been £469 with pen but the lad on the till said it qualified for their insurance with the first 3 or 4 months free and dropped the price down to £433 because i said i didn't want the insurance and he said i could have the discount anyway. He signed me up to the direct debit and told me just to cancel it before it started and it would be fine because there was no commitment with the insurance. I've cancelled it already so i thought it was pretty good for £433
#16
Got the i5 model with Xbox One and keyboard for just over a grand. Brilliant product and the keyboard is an absolute must. However the battery life is nowhere near 9 hours. More like 4-5 hours.
#17
Mine still has a tendency to freeze from time to time despite all updates. Great idea and when working superb but I wouldn't buy again for this reason.
#18
Interloper
jaydeeuk1
Nice machine, bought a rose gold spectre x360 other day for about £200 more with bigger SSD, 8gb ram and a 6th gen i5 with 10-12hr battery life, better vfm imo.
edit - was £200
It's only better value if you don't need pen support. The x360 is a versatile laptop; the SP4 is a pen-enabled tablet with laptop functionality. Great machine you got there, though, at a decent price.
This is a great price including the Type Cover (m3 usually £749 + Type Cover £109). Don't forget you also get a £10 voucher for Argos purchases over £100, bringing this down to £689, a saving of £169. Heat!

That's a yes and a no.

£10 Argos Voucher is as per 'future purchases'?, eg. £10 counter-balanced against any/all your near future Argos purchases and the like?.

As opposed to that of being counter-balanced against any/all here and now purchases instead, or whatever?, so .....

But yes, the £10 freebie is a nice touch mind?, lol. :-)
#19
The CPU is ok (comparable to an i5) but 128gb is just too small. It's fine for a works laptop but if you want iTunes, photo editing or some games then it will become a problem quickly. get m3/i5 256gb model.

Also HP Spectre x360 got much better reviews, so if you're gonna spend £1,000 on a 2 in 1 then you're better off with that.

Edited By: grimboj2 on Nov 10, 2016 20:13
#20
meglaman2000
roycom
Eez1
roycom
Eez1
roycom
iz123456789
Finally a decent price from Microsoft for Surfaces but I dont know how I feel about M3 processor... its pretty basic!
Looking at benchmarks it's about the same speed as a 35 quid Celeron. oO
Mind you, the Celerons at that price are surprisingly good value for money.
You talking desktop or mobile celeron chips? :/
Desktop.
Apples and oranges dude X)
Performance results are performance results dude....;)
If you completely ignore all of the reasons you might need a portable machine, and you are comparing using the Surface only sat at your desk, and never moving to a desktop computer with a Wacom plugged in then sure.... your logic is sound.

If someone is going to outlay this kind of money on the device they will quite possibly be replacing their laptop and/or their desktop PC, a good friend of mine is thinking of replacing both his laptop and PC with an i7 SP4. My comparison is simple, if you are thinking of using this as a replacement for one of those types of machine, it's similar in performance to a recent generation desktop equipped Celeron CPU. I didn't say it was a poor device, I just think it's a little underpowered for the money, that's all.
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I have a couple of Core-m powered tablet 2 in 1 devices (a Latitude 13 7350 and a Latitude 11 5175) and a Latitude 12 E7240 with a Core i5 ULV. I much prefer the Core-m processors particularly for thin devices, they offer better performance than BayTrail/Cherry Trail Atoms for simple stuff like running embedded plugins (I find the Atoms can sometimes struggle a bit with that) but their power consumption is far lower allowing them to run entirely passively.

I don't find the ULV processors offer such a good balance, their much higher power consumption means when they're packed into a small chassis they need a fan which can be very audible and the machine heats up considerably. For all that, the ULV processors are not that fast either and I've found I rarely use the i5 ULV machine - it's hot and loud even in normal use but its processor isn't nearly fast enough to make that worthwhile. If I was wanting a single machine to cover all my uses I wouldn't even consider a ULV processor, even a normal mobile processor is not that fast so I'd take a larger chassis to get a reasonable processor in it.
#22
Way way cheaper than a Mac, but Windows 10 is a disaster, I use Windows 10 everyday and it's urgh such a horrible OS. I had to install XP on a customer machine and the icons in XP look next gen compared to Windows 10! No one uses the Windows store, no one. There's been 3 versions of Windows 10 so far so they've had 3 goes at getting it right and more versions to come, I dislike the nasty ugly buggy crappy OS. Right click menu is way better in Windows though, I miss that in OSX when I use it. I bet you've guessed by now that I don't like Windows 10, the only reason to use it is DX12 and I hope Vulkan eventually kills off that reason.
#23
roycom
meglaman2000
roycom
Eez1
roycom
Eez1
roycom
iz123456789
Finally a decent price from Microsoft for Surfaces but I dont know how I feel about M3 processor... its pretty basic!
Looking at benchmarks it's about the same speed as a 35 quid Celeron. oO
Mind you, the Celerons at that price are surprisingly good value for money.
You talking desktop or mobile celeron chips? :/
Desktop.
Apples and oranges dude X)
Performance results are performance results dude....;)
If you completely ignore all of the reasons you might need a portable machine, and you are comparing using the Surface only sat at your desk, and never moving to a desktop computer with a Wacom plugged in then sure.... your logic is sound.
If someone is going to outlay this kind of money on the device they will quite possibly be replacing their laptop and/or their desktop PC, a good friend of mine is thinking of replacing both his laptop and PC with an i7 SP4. My comparison is simple, if you are thinking of using this as a replacement for one of those types of machine, it's similar in performance to a recent generation desktop equipped Celeron CPU. I didn't say it was a poor device, I just think it's a little underpowered for the money, that's all.

It's like taking any laptop, comparing it to a desktop cpu and saying "I think thats underpowered for the money". If your only metric is how powerful the CPU is for the money the of course its underpowered, as is every portable machine ever made.

Edited By: meglaman2000 on Nov 11, 2016 00:03
#24
iz123456789
Finally a decent price from Microsoft for Surfaces but I dont know how I feel about M3 processor... its pretty basic!
Yes, it is, but then again this is the budget model of the Surface. You will never get the performance of a decent workstation in this form factor anyway (even the i7-U is beaten by a mid range PC), and for light tasks it is ok.
#25
jaydeeuk1
Nice machine, bought a rose gold spectre x360 other day for about £200 more with bigger SSD, 8gb ram and a 6th gen i5 with 10-12hr battery life, better vfm imo.
edit - was £200

Hard to compare the 2 when one is a tablet and one is an Ultrabook. On a side note, for another 200 more than your HP I got a Dell precision 5510 with a 4k screen, 6th gen i7-6820, Nvidia Quadro graphics and 16gb ram and an SSD (that's only 256 but I'll upgrade to 1tb) and 3 year nbd warranty, which I believe is even better value, but it's hard to compare them as they are all different devices (yet I can see more similarities between a 13 and 15 inch Ultrabook than an Ultrabook and tablet).

Edited By: Elbandito on Nov 11, 2016 08:17
#26
meglaman2000
roycom
meglaman2000
roycom
Eez1
roycom
Eez1
roycom
iz123456789
Finally a decent price from Microsoft for Surfaces but I dont know how I feel about M3 processor... its pretty basic!
Looking at benchmarks it's about the same speed as a 35 quid Celeron. oO
Mind you, the Celerons at that price are surprisingly good value for money.
You talking desktop or mobile celeron chips? :/
Desktop.
Apples and oranges dude X)
Performance results are performance results dude....;)
If you completely ignore all of the reasons you might need a portable machine, and you are comparing using the Surface only sat at your desk, and never moving to a desktop computer with a Wacom plugged in then sure.... your logic is sound.
If someone is going to outlay this kind of money on the device they will quite possibly be replacing their laptop and/or their desktop PC, a good friend of mine is thinking of replacing both his laptop and PC with an i7 SP4. My comparison is simple, if you are thinking of using this as a replacement for one of those types of machine, it's similar in performance to a recent generation desktop equipped Celeron CPU. I didn't say it was a poor device, I just think it's a little underpowered for the money, that's all.
It's like taking any laptop, comparing it to a desktop cpu and saying "I think thats underpowered for the money". If your only metric is how powerful the CPU is for the money the of course its underpowered, as is every portable machine ever made.

If I was replacing any desktop/laptop/2in1 with a new 2in1 I would want to know how much faster or slower it is likely to be for the money, and CPU is a factor in that. It would after all be the main/only computer.

"as is every portable machine ever made", I think you underestimate PCWorld mate, they have £300-£350 desktop PCs with vastly inferior CPUs to sub £300 laptops. X)
#27
can you play 'no man's sky' with these specs
#28
I got the surface 4 i5 4gb 128gb for £720 through very after £100 cashback, it was also on sale. Really happy with it, sadly I didn't have the extra £300 to get the 8gb version :(
#29
You can also get this with 0% Apr on their credit card over 24 months
#30
How is this for on the go, to use mainly just for work. Also the M3 (i7 version) will it compare to my I7 4790k?
#31
wallsend
can you play 'no man's sky' with these specs

Wouldn't bank on it, that game is so poorly coded I've seen it bring gaming super-computer equivalents to their knees. Especially with it being CPU-bound rather than GPU, you're really after a quad-core CPU at least and a dedicated GPU, neither of which this has.

Core m3 CPU is fine for basic tasks and slightly more advanced ones too, it's nothing like as underpowered as an Atom-class Celeron (which are actually pretty usable these days) despite what synthetic benchmarks say and it has a fast SSD backing it up so the whole setup feels snappy.
1 Like #32
fishmaster
Way way cheaper than a Mac, but Windows 10 is a disaster, I use Windows 10 everyday and it's urgh such a horrible OS. I had to install XP on a customer machine and the icons in XP look next gen compared to Windows 10! No one uses the Windows store, no one. There's been 3 versions of Windows 10 so far so they've had 3 goes at getting it right and more versions to come, I dislike the nasty ugly buggy crappy OS. Right click menu is way better in Windows though, I miss that in OSX when I use it. I bet you've guessed by now that I don't like Windows 10, the only reason to use it is DX12 and I hope Vulkan eventually kills off that reason.

Glad it's not just me with those feelings then! Only boot into it when I have to and then remember why I don't use it!

Does make the question of selecting the next machine to get that much more difficult as I have to factor in Linux compatibility into it, but on the plus side, my 7+ year old machine in the lounge still runs well now it's got an SSD in it 8)
1 Like #33
At this price, surely you'd be better off getting an I5 Surface pro 3 as those will be around £150-200 cheaper too for probably the same performance? Cheaper still if going second hand (sub £400)

I mean, solely comparing the CPUs check this link here

The only thing this M3 CPU has, is energy efficiency. Which is also negated as the Pro 4 has a smaller battery.

To counter that a little, the Surface pro has better resolution (SP3 is no slouch here though, it looks great) and the screen size is also 0.3" bigger.

On the face of it, is it worth the additional £? I certainly wouldn't spend £300 to upgrade to it if I could get £400 for me SP3 with the keyboard.




Edited By: DarrylJohn on Nov 12, 2016 17:37: info
1 Like #34
bigdai77
Mine still has a tendency to freeze from time to time despite all updates. Great idea and when working superb but I wouldn't buy again for this reason.

My i5 has never frozen and personally I like windows 10, especially once you introduce touch and pen input. The pen on the surface is a whole lot better than any I've seen before and I've had a few tablets with pens of different technologies.

The surface i5 seems to run roughly equivalent to my 3-4 year old i7 powered laptop, can't compete against modern i7s, but that's fine, it's good enough for me to run SQL, Visual Studio, Photoshop and Office. I get around 6-7 hours battery life, but have just acquired a big lithium batter pack that's supposed to charge it 2-3 times, so it can cover a 9 hour flight.

For me the overwhelming reason to buy the surface not an ultrabook, was the weight, I needed a tablet first and a laptop second, mine has effectively replace 2 machines, so although the price is a bit high, by getting rid of 2 machines, it's made it a little more palatable.

mike
#35
mbuckhurst
bigdai77
Mine still has a tendency to freeze from time to time despite all updates. Great idea and when working superb but I wouldn't buy again for this reason.
My i5 has never frozen and personally I like windows 10, especially once you introduce touch and pen input. The pen on the surface is a whole lot better than any I've seen before and I've had a few tablets with pens of different technologies.
The surface i5 seems to run roughly equivalent to my 3-4 year old i7 powered laptop, can't compete against modern i7s, but that's fine, it's good enough for me to run SQL, Visual Studio, Photoshop and Office. I get around 6-7 hours battery life, but have just acquired a big lithium batter pack that's supposed to charge it 2-3 times, so it can cover a 9 hour flight.
For me the overwhelming reason to buy the surface not an ultrabook, was the weight, I needed a tablet first and a laptop second, mine has effectively replace 2 machines, so although the price is a bit high, by getting rid of 2 machines, it's made it a little more palatable.
mike

I don't disagree in many ways and I am no troll. I can only go on personal experience. I love it when it works which is 95% of time but it does still freeze and it annoys the hell out of me when this happens. This is especially true when using it to present and I have to hold down power for ten seconds and then restart. There are formums on this problem. For me it is nearly great but buggy.
1 Like #36
fishmaster
Way way cheaper than a Mac, but Windows 10 is a disaster, I use Windows 10 everyday and it's urgh such a horrible OS. I had to install XP on a customer machine and the icons in XP look next gen compared to Windows 10! No one uses the Windows store, no one. There's been 3 versions of Windows 10 so far so they've had 3 goes at getting it right and more versions to come, I dislike the nasty ugly buggy crappy OS. Right click menu is way better in Windows though, I miss that in OSX when I use it. I bet you've guessed by now that I don't like Windows 10, the only reason to use it is DX12 and I hope Vulkan eventually kills off that reason.

I am amazed you hate Windows 10
I absolutely adore it and have used Macs and every flavour of Windows.
Swapped to Macs because of Vista but now loving everything Microsoft these days.
I am going to buy a Surface Studio next.
#37
ZapGod
fishmaster
Way way cheaper than a Mac, but Windows 10 is a disaster, I use Windows 10 everyday and it's urgh such a horrible OS. I had to install XP on a customer machine and the icons in XP look next gen compared to Windows 10! No one uses the Windows store, no one. There's been 3 versions of Windows 10 so far so they've had 3 goes at getting it right and more versions to come, I dislike the nasty ugly buggy crappy OS. Right click menu is way better in Windows though, I miss that in OSX when I use it. I bet you've guessed by now that I don't like Windows 10, the only reason to use it is DX12 and I hope Vulkan eventually kills off that reason.
I am amazed you hate Windows 10
I absolutely adore it and have used Macs and every flavour of Windows.
Swapped to Macs because of Vista but now loving everything Microsoft these days.
I am going to buy a Surface Studio next.

You absolutely adore an operating system and are now going to buy a 3-4 grand Surface Studio?

Each to their own I guess... X)

Edited By: roycom on Nov 13, 2016 16:01
#38
would love it if these had proper performance processors in them for the price you are paying, always wanted a surface for taking my dj'ing portable and lightweight
8 Likes #39
ZapGod
fishmaster
Way way cheaper than a Mac, but Windows 10 is a disaster, I use Windows 10 everyday and it's urgh such a horrible OS. I had to install XP on a customer machine and the icons in XP look next gen compared to Windows 10! No one uses the Windows store, no one. There's been 3 versions of Windows 10 so far so they've had 3 goes at getting it right and more versions to come, I dislike the nasty ugly buggy crappy OS. Right click menu is way better in Windows though, I miss that in OSX when I use it. I bet you've guessed by now that I don't like Windows 10, the only reason to use it is DX12 and I hope Vulkan eventually kills off that reason.
I am amazed you hate Windows 10
I absolutely adore it and have used Macs and every flavour of Windows.
Swapped to Macs because of Vista but now loving everything Microsoft these days.
I am going to buy a Surface Studio next.

There isn't a perfect OS, however Windows 10 is far from perfect. I use MacOS (formerly OSX), Windows 10 and Linux, they all p*ss me off to some extent, just Windows 10 does a much better job of p*ssing me off than the rest.
#40
Not trying to cause a war here because i'd snap one of these up if the specs were good. But these are some of the most woeful specs i've ever seen. This should be minus 5000.

But then i'd be looking to run a few virtual machines on this device and I don't think it is designed for that. So for me it's cold for a few reasons.

For people who think this is hot? What exactly am I missing? I feel as if i'm missing something vital about the cost of this product and why that's the asking price (serious question.)

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