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Microsoft Surface RT 64GB with click cover (refurb) £149.99 @ SVP

£149.99 @ SVP
Seems like a pretty good deal, at £149.99 with the keyboard. They also have the Surface 2 64GB for £219.99 and a couple of other deals, which "on the surface" seem good? Read More
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Seems like a pretty good deal, at £149.99 with the keyboard.

They also have the Surface 2 64GB for £219.99 and a couple of other deals, which "on the surface" seem good?
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#1
To be honest, not sure whether to purchase myself! Or whether the 2 is the better deal - if it's the genuine keyboard with this one though, these are usually over £100 on their own?

Can someone advise who has a surface, or knows a bit about them (please!)

Edited By: Broadsands on Dec 03, 2014 21:15
3 Likes #2
Windows RT is the locked down version - you can't install your own windows based software on this so I would avoid personally.
#3
Thanks - wasn't particularly looking for one, but got e-mailed the deal from SVP and it was tempting! Seemed good so thought I would share. So, their Surface 2 deal is better then, despite not having the keyboard and being £70 dearer?

Edited By: Broadsands on Dec 03, 2014 21:20
3 Likes #4
Windows rt is like BlackBerry playbook there is no point in ever buying one.
2 Likes #5
I have the surface 2 and couldn't recommend it enough. It is a fantastic piece of hardware.
#6
RoganWarrior
I have the surface 2 and couldn't recommend it enough. It is a fantastic piece of hardware.

So, over the...dare I say it, iPad, you'd chose a surface 2?
#7
RT is not good, go for the Linx 10.1 over this as it is a better machine in reality.
As other have said it is locked down on chip windows.
#8
Broadsands
RoganWarrior
I have the surface 2 and couldn't recommend it enough. It is a fantastic piece of hardware.

So, over the...dare I say it, iPad, you'd chose a surface 2?

Yip. I needed something more than a tablet for apps. The Surface 2 has a full Office suite and great hardware. Also have the touch cover and it works really well.
4 Likes #9
I've owned every Surface (RT, 2, SP, SP2, SP3)!

The Surface 2 was one of my favourites. Instant on, with the improved screen and kickstand are great.

Hardware on the Surface 2 is super, type cover 2 is much better than the touch covers.

Internet Explorer is great compared to anything Apple or Google offer. But you are stuck with it.

You don't need an app to achieve most things as you have a fully featured desktop web browser.

Ultimately the S2 is much better in some ways than other x86 Windows Tablets, there is nothing on the market of similar quality. But you have to be completely sure it will do what you need from it.
2 Likes #10
I bought a Surface RT to use on a course recently. The other students largely had iPads (which I also like.)
Bit like comparing apples and oranges really.
However, being able to transfer files by USB there and then was a lifesaver plus I loved being able to use a wireless mouse. Add in the versatility of having the touch keyboard (which I have) and it was a bit more flexible than the average tablet.
Granted doesn't have the PPI count of the latest iPads but it's got some decent black level on it's display: I like it for Netflix viewing etc.
2 Likes #11
Got my gf a Surface 2 64gb after her laptop died and it hasn't left her side since. It does 90 percent of the things my Surface Pro 3 does, plus it comes with a full copy of office unlike the cheap full windows tablets kicking around with 1 year of 365 office. It has a higher resolution screen than the linx 10 mentioned, at full hd. The speakers aren't great but passable for a tablet. It can be jail broken to run some older full windows programs if required or you can remote access a desktop or server for access to programs run on them.

I like, others wasn't impressed by the idea of RT being locked down and unable to run Windows programs but I've been converted. It does everything a casual user might do, surf, listen to music, watch films, some light office work. You can attach a Type or Touch cover for on the move use or plug into a bigger monitor/tv and use blue tooth keyboard for office or desk work.

I think the cheap tablets kicking about will boost the Windows app store and that might give the RT tablets a second life. They are well built, especially the 2 with better screen and kick stand. You can connect external hard drives or flash drives unlike some other tablets due to full size usb port. Flash is supported etc and I think there may be less worry regarding viruses etc due to closed platform, but I could be wrong. You can connect to home groups to share printers files.

There is a lot going for them and I'd take a good look depending on your intended uses.
#12
Thanks for the comments, seems to be heating up! The keyboards look pretty pricey for them though. So, can you run no other windows programs on them? Can you download things like third party Word to .pdf converters etc. (or does the latest office on this have that anyway?)

Has anyone ordered one from SVP?



Edited By: Broadsands on Dec 03, 2014 22:54
#13
Much prefer Windows RT myself and wouldn't want to go back to full Windows for everyday use. The Surface 2 is fast, good screen and battery life. No fan, no malware risks and you don't need any extra security software to stay safe online. It's full Windows in terms of look and feel, 99% of what I ever need my laptop for, supports printing, USB, Office, superb flash support on a proper wen browser. No malware, never had a dodgy IE add on install itself, never slows down, never runs hot. For the very rare occasions I need a native app (say, for rearranging PDF pages), I switch the laptop on only briefly. Since having the Surface the laptop has been on for maybe an hour tops.
#14
littld
Much prefer Windows RT myself and wouldn't want to go back to full Windows for everyday use. The Surface 2 is fast, good screen and battery life. No fan, no malware risks and you don't need any extra security software to stay safe online. It's full Windows in terms of look and feel, 99% of what I ever need my laptop for, supports printing, USB, Office, superb flash support on a proper wen browser. No malware, never had a dodgy IE add on install itself, never slows down, never runs hot. For the very rare occasions I need a native app (say, for rearranging PDF pages), I switch the laptop on only briefly. Since having the Surface the laptop has been on for maybe an hour tops.

Maybe it suites your needs and that's fine, but at the end of the day RT is junk and I would never recommend it over getting a proper windows tablet.
#15
website is playing up plus i'm not au fait with the versions.
when you say surface 2,does that mean the fully fledged intel i5 version?
if so then that is a thousand times more appealing than an rt i wouldnt even touch.

aaahh i remember now surface PRO is the good one,not for me this deal then.


Edited By: false prophet on Dec 03, 2014 23:08
3 Likes #16
norville555
Windows rt is like BlackBerry playbook there is no point in ever buying one.

There's always a point in purchasing a Windows RT or Blackberry Playbook if they do what you need and the price you need. I haven't for one second regretted my Playbooks, they're great little devices with loads of onboard memory, perfect for a media machine for children, mine have traveled 1000s of miles keeping my kids entertained.

Likewise RT machines are cheap and capable, yes a 10" full windows tablet is great, but the RT is definitely better than an Atom powered tablet, IMHO, and if you just need the basic experience + office, RT does offer quite a compelling package. For me more so, since as a fully registered Windows developer, I can port all my code to RT quite easily and install, on an RT tablet.

Unfortunately, having just purchased a 7" and 8" Linx in the past week, for development purposes, my wife might want a divorce if I picked up a surface or surface 2.

mike
#17
oos....took too long uhming and aahing.
#18
kingchris
I've owned every Surface (RT, 2, SP, SP2, SP3)!

The Surface 2 was one of my favourites. Instant on, with the improved screen and kickstand are great.

Hardware on the Surface 2 is super, type cover 2 is much better than the touch covers.

Internet Explorer is great compared to anything Apple or Google offer. But you are stuck with it.

You don't need an app to achieve most things as you have a fully featured desktop web browser.

Ultimately the S2 is much better in some ways than other x86 Windows Tablets, there is nothing on the market of similar quality. But you have to be completely sure it will do what you need from it.


I agree ie11 on RT 2 is the best portable browsing experience out there.
#19
surface rt is a fantastic system for people who want something kind of familiar which can be used with standard PC accessories without the risks of viruses with regular updates.
#20
was researching whether to buy it, now it is not available.
probably, i should go for a full win8
#22
Broadsands
Thanks for the comments, seems to be heating up! The keyboards look pretty pricey for them though. So, can you run no other windows programs on them? Can you download things like third party Word to .pdf converters etc. (or does the latest office on this have that anyway?)

Office has native PDF export functions, just File Save As.
1 Like #23
Dusterfluster
RT is not good, go for the Linx 10.1 over this as it is a better machine in reality.
As other have said it is locked down on chip windows.

The Linx is kinda not great either. CPU a bit faster, but less RAM and worse build quality, and no keyboard. And only 1 year's Office.

If you want a nice tablet for doing internet + Office, this is a good deal.
2 Likes #24
I just want to ask how many people that are "saying not to get one" or "it's junk" have actually owned it?
3 Likes #25
I got the Surface RT 32GB last Christmas and I use it more than my PC. Win8 RT is far from junk. Yes you can't run normal windows software but very little of that is optimised for touch screen so would be almost pointless running on a tablet. Win8 RT covers your basics that you would spend most of your time on a PC doing. It has office, it has a web browser, its got email, its got the People's Hub and it still has Windows Explorer with Homegroups so you can just watch videos stored on your main PC. Just get a few core apps from the store such as Plex and you are good to go.
#26
If you try and add it to your cart it's not having it...
#27
kingchris
I've owned every Surface (RT, 2, SP, SP2, SP3)!

The Surface 2 was one of my favourites. Instant on, with the improved screen and kickstand are great.

Hardware on the Surface 2 is super, type cover 2 is much better than the touch covers.

Internet Explorer is great compared to anything Apple or Google offer. But you are stuck with it.

You don't need an app to achieve most things as you have a fully featured desktop web browser.

Ultimately the S2 is much better in some ways than other x86 Windows Tablets, there is nothing on the market of similar quality. But you have to be completely sure it will do what you need from it.

Hows the Surface 3?
#28
When Windows 10 is released IF it can be installed on the processor in this device there will be a run on these things, until then avoid
#29
Dan_999
Windows RT is the locked down version - you can't install your own windows based software on this so I would avoid personally.
This is true. I bought RT last year, and it was disappointing to find out there no basically software available because RT is so restricted.
#30
Don't get the original RT, get the Surface 2, it is a vast improvement. Original is too slow.
#31
bountyhunter53
kingchris
I've owned every Surface (RT, 2, SP, SP2, SP3)!

The Surface 2 was one of my favourites. Instant on, with the improved screen and kickstand are great.

Hardware on the Surface 2 is super, type cover 2 is much better than the touch covers.

Internet Explorer is great compared to anything Apple or Google offer. But you are stuck with it.

You don't need an app to achieve most things as you have a fully featured desktop web browser.

Ultimately the S2 is much better in some ways than other x86 Windows Tablets, there is nothing on the market of similar quality. But you have to be completely sure it will do what you need from it.

Hows the Surface 3?


There is no Surface 3, just a Surface Pro 3
#32
sold out.
#33
dudedude
Dusterfluster
RT is not good, go for the Linx 10.1 over this as it is a better machine in reality.
As other have said it is locked down on chip windows.

The Linx is kinda not great either. CPU a bit faster, but less RAM and worse build quality, and no keyboard. And only 1 year's Office.

If you want a nice tablet for doing internet + Office, this is a good deal.

I have heard good reports on the Linx tablet, less storage not RAM as it has 2gb of RAM but has an SD Card Slot for storage also. The 10.1 does have a keyboard option

You could use any cheap tablet for internet and office, to my mind the idea of having a windows tablet is windows compatibility.
RT is sadly lacking in that department and that is why it is being shelved.
#34
We seem to have broken the site as well :)
#35
se23
I just want to ask how many people that are "saying not to get one" or "it's junk" have actually owned it?
I work for a company that supply into corporates.
IT departments won't touch RT tablets as they can't be networked properly and are limited to windows store apps.
They are OK if you don't wan't full windows functionality, but then you would have to ask yourself why you would want a windows tablet without full windows functionality.
#36
Dusterfluster
RT is not good, go for the Linx 10.1 over this as it is a better machine in reality.
As other have said it is locked down on chip windows.

I second this
2 Likes #37
I have a Surface RT and also an iPad air and a Nexus 7 (2013). My preference is in the order I mentioned them.

Like others have said, IE on Surface/RT is by far the best mobile browser as it is practically the FULL desktop one. Add to that a FULL desktop-like MS Office suite and you have one hell of a productive gadget on your hands! As someone else also said, I have never felt the need to delve into the store and install a bunch of apps as the Surfact RT seems pretty complete "as is". To be fair, I don't have that much apps on my iPad or Nexus either, as they are not my first round of tablets and the whole *new* excitement of downloading and trying hundreds of apps is gone now (I don't even jailbreak/root/etc, nor have any desire to do so).

The Type Cover 2 is an essential add on and a must-have, even at its high price. The keyboard is very responsive and is also backlit. As it also has USB, it really is a tablet that can replace a laptop (well a netbook at least) :)

If, like me, you mostly use a tablet for quick surfing, emails, online shopping, and (in Surface's case) typing the odd letter etc, then Surface RT will do you fine. Do not be put off by people saying it's not FULL windows or any of that rubbish (neither is iPad full windows, or full Mac for that matter) as they are *mostly* people who have never owned one and just read other people saying that. But if you are someone who is new and still excited by all the apps and games etc and likes to try everything, I would probably recommend an iPad to you, even over FULL Windows!
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Well said JoeSpur - and also, while app support is restricted on RT, a lot of the time you don't really need it as RT supports *full* Flash on websites.

Oh, and IE11 on any Windows mobile device (RT, Full, whatever) is easily the best mobile browser.

I took my original SurfaceRT and an iPad 4 on holiday earlier this year. The Surface was used a *lot* more.
1 Like #39
Dusterfluster
se23
I just want to ask how many people that are "saying not to get one" or "it's junk" have actually owned it?
I work for a company that supply into corporates.
IT departments won't touch RT tablets as they can't be networked properly and are limited to windows store apps.
They are OK if you don't wan't full windows functionality, but then you would have to ask yourself why you would want a windows tablet without full windows functionality.

Other than not being able to create a homegroup Win8 RT supports the same network functionality as Win8. The only time there's be an issue is if that IT department uses a 3rd party VPN client and they don't have the client in the Windows App Store.

If they setup their own domain then that's a Win8 issue and not exclusive to Win8 RT. The only main functional difference between Win8 and Win8RT is that they cant use standard software, otherwise both versions are functionally identical.
1 Like #40
Too many posters not knowing the difference between Surface and Surface Pro, even those who have the devices.

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