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Beats yesterdays Amazon £66.99 price, not sure whether to cancel that and order from here.

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#1
wait for a voucher code, im sure there should be some flying about
#2
Cheaper than yesterday's Amazon deal plus Quidco.
#3
Is there a transfer cable with this one,if not where can I get one cheap?
#4
t4v;8195042
Is there a transfer cable with this one,if not where can I get one cheap?


Google is your friend! :thumbsup:
#5
Thanks, cancelled my Amazon order and swapped to here instead!
#6
All the due for release April 250gb ones come with a transfer cable and more importantly the software
#7
Still a grossly over priced product, as are most 360 peripherals but a blinding price compared to the RRP
1 Like #8
PFC Hudson
Still a grossly over priced product, as are most 360 peripherals but a blinding price compared to the RRP


but whoever set the RRP is stupid.....£80 for 250gb lol.
i always see the RRP as Recommended Rip-off Price which shops should use to claim their helping customers save money.
#9
PFC Hudson
Still a grossly over priced product, as are most 360 peripherals but a blinding price compared to the RRP


Cheers. I don't think anyone has ever made that comment before.




;-)
#10
Newer 360 firmware/dash is going to support saving to USB disk, so I'd just hold out for that (and save a load of cash!). More details
here
#11
Wicked Lester
Cheers. I don't think anyone has ever made that comment before.




;-)


Why the need for a sarcastic comment from you?
#12
t4v
Is there a transfer cable with this one,if not where can I get one cheap?


Look at the pic :thumbsup:

Hot deal either way.
#13
gingercat
Newer 360 firmware/dash is going to support saving to USB disk, so I'd just hold out for that (and save a load of cash!). More details
here


LOL, yeah cause you want to have 2 16gb usb sticks hanging out the front of you xbox and only have 28gb of that useable anyway.

That update is basically to iradicate the use of memory cards (you know, those old things from way back in the n64 days, probably earlier). They might as well release a new console now with a blu ray player now, then at least I wont have my ears sawn off ever time I play a game from the disc.
#14
striker33
LOL, yeah cause you want to have 2 16gb usb sticks hanging out the front of you xbox and only have 28gb of that useable anyway.

That update is basically to iradicate the use of memory cards (you know, those old things from way back in the n64 days, probably earlier). They might as well release a new console now with a blu ray player now, then at least I wont have my ears sawn off ever time I play a game from the disc.


Microsoft, use a Sony developed Blu Ray player? Not in this generation - there's no chance.
#15
thesilverfox
Microsoft, use a Sony developed Blu Ray player? Not in this generation - there's no chance.

More likely this generation than next generation. Next generation will be download only. Elimination of piracy and the second-hand market, and the console manufacturer takes a larger cut of game sales for providing the service.
#16
And everyone with a download cap, or everyone without open internet access will suffer. Bravo to the games industry.
#17
Rubisco
More likely this generation than next generation. Next generation will be download only. Elimination of piracy and the second-hand market, and the console manufacturer takes a larger cut of game sales for providing the service.


Hot topic the next gen - hard to see download only in the UK, where so many people still struggle to maintain a decent speed during peak hours (I'm looking suspiciously at you, BT ADSL ... ).

Which means current generation implementation of Blu Ray. I've never seen a generation of consoles change media mid-life, and expect no reason for that to happen at present (even with backwards compatibility). It would be far too costly and alienates those users with older drives, from newer games and so forth.

However, it's widely believed that the current generations of console still have another 2-3 years left in them yet (pretty sure the PS3 can do much more than at the moment - coming from a 360 owner!).
#18
Looks like it's gone up to £69.73
#19
;( £69.73 now
#20
Rubisco
More likely this generation than next generation. Next generation will be download only. Elimination of piracy and the second-hand market, and the console manufacturer takes a larger cut of game sales for providing the service.


They will never get my money like that. *if I cannot physically hold the media no sale. I will not be held to ransom either and my INTERNET stinks so will never be able to buy anything anyways
#21
thesilverfox
Hot topic the next gen - hard to see download only in the UK, where so many people still struggle to maintain a decent speed during peak hours (I'm looking suspiciously at you, BT ADSL ... ).

Which means current generation implementation of Blu Ray. I've never seen a generation of consoles change media mid-life, and expect no reason for that to happen at present (even with backwards compatibility). It would be far too costly and alienates those users with older drives, from newer games and so forth.

However, it's widely believed that the current generations of console still have another 2-3 years left in them yet (pretty sure the PS3 can do much more than at the moment - coming from a 360 owner!).


They're saying another 5 years apparently, making this the longest console generation in history.

I made my own 250GB 360 drive over the weekend and it's working perfectly otherwise I would probably go for this as it seems like a great price. The USB support will go up to 16GB but I can't see it working with game installs really. Would be a vast improvement for save game backups over the current memory cards though.
#22
dontasciime
They will never get my money like that. *if I cannot physically hold the media no sale. I will not be held to ransom either and my INTERNET stinks so will never be able to buy anything anyways


Don't worry, it won't happen any time soon. They would be cutting off their noses if they did something like that and although a large portion of PC gamers now download all of their games via Steam, the physical copies are still available for those who need them or just want to shop around.

Maybe at some point a few generations down the line when internet speeds have far surpassed an average of 1Gbps and people are thinking about flying cars (possibly) but certainly not in the next console generation. The console market follows the lead of the PC in this sort of area and the PC market is nowhere near there yet.
#23
Spark
They're saying another 5 years apparently, making this the longest console generation in history.

I made my own 250GB 360 drive over the weekend and it's working perfectly otherwise I would probably go for this as it seems like a great price. The USB support will go up to 16GB but I can't see it working with game installs really. Would be a vast improvement for save game backups over the current memory cards though.


How long until home-brew drives are banned by Microsoft?

USB support is long overdue to be honest and I agree about installs - I don't think it's likely for full games; only arcade.
#24
thesilverfox
How long until home-brew drives are banned by Microsoft?

USB support is long overdue to be honest and I agree about installs - I don't think it's likely for full games; only arcade.


It's unlikely they can stop them. There has to be an original owner and they would be blacklisting all to stop them.
#25
dontasciime
It's unlikely they can stop them. There has to be an original owner and they would be blacklisting all to stop them.


Is there not some sort of ID built into the regular drives? I've seen guides and so forth, but would personally feel reluctant. People were confident that flashed DVD-ROM drives were infallible too, but Microsoft pulled one out of the hat with that!
1 Like #26
thesilverfox
Is there not some sort of ID built into the regular drives? I've seen guides and so forth, but would personally feel reluctant. People were confident that flashed DVD-ROM drives were infallible too, but Microsoft pulled one out of the hat with that!


You see that's the problem, people constantly compare those two and they are two very different concepts.

One is an internal modification which violates the console warrantee and Xbox ToS and is generally considered to be illegal in some parts of the world (including here I think). MS have been banning consoles with flashed drives since mid 2007, the only difference is that they now have the ability to directly detect the drive modification instead of waiting for the end user to slip up and systematically making an example of a select few as was the previous policy.

The other is using what basically amounts to an unofficial external accessory. MS could one day ban gamertags they have found to be frequently using these drives (not likely) or render the drives and/or the content inoperable. Neither of these things have happened over the course of the 3 years since hddhackr has existed though so I very much doubt they will start doing it now.

The drives have an ID key which is low level written to the drive's firmware and recorded by the console for game installs and to every save file subsequently created but in terms of live they are completely indistinguishable from the official product. They are made by effectively cloning an original drive key from an official drive so the only problem really is that you will have multiple people using drives which carry the same ID. Like dontasciime said though, the cloned drives are technically the same as the original on which they are based though so it would be nigh on impossible to block all of the clones without blocking the legitimate master at the same time.
#27
Spark
You see that's the problem, people constantly compare those two and they are two very different concepts.

One is an internal modification which violates the console warrantee and Xbox ToS and is generally considered to be illegal in some parts of the world (including here I think). MS have been banning consoles with flashed drives since mid 2007, the only difference is that they now have the ability to directly detect the drive modification instead of waiting for the end user to slip up and systematically making an example of a select few as was the previous policy.

The other is using what basically amounts to an unofficial external accessory. MS could one day ban gamertags they have found to be frequently using these drives (not likely) or render the drives and/or the content inoperable. Neither of these things have happened over the course of the 3 years since hddhackr has existed though so I very much doubt they will start doing it now.

The drives have an ID key which is low level written to the drive's firmware and recorded by the console for game installs and to every save file subsequently created but in terms of live they are completely indistinguishable from the official product. They are made by effectively cloning an original drive key from an official drive so the only problem really is that you will have multiple people using drives which carry the same ID. Like dontasciime said though, the cloned drives are technically the same as the original on which they are based though so it would be nigh on impossible to block all of the clones without blocking the legitimate master at the same time.


Thanks for the useful reply :thumbsup: It's definitely an interesting way of looking at it, and possibly another reason Microsoft made an error by not using internal drives. I would certainly consider this modification given the information provided, but only when I know I could exceed the 250GB limit (500GB would be far more useful for me!). Given that drives from MS are up to 250GB right now, I wouldn't really know if anything larger would work ...
#28
thesilverfox
Thanks for the useful reply :thumbsup: It's definitely an interesting way of looking at it, and possibly another reason Microsoft made an error by not using internal drives. I would certainly consider this modification given the information provided, but only when I know I could exceed the 250GB limit (500GB would be far more useful for me!). Given that drives from MS are up to 250GB right now, I wouldn't really know if anything larger would work ...


Once/ If M$ release a 500gb drive the security sector from that will be available to use on your own compatible 500gb drive.

You can theoretically use a 500gb drive now but the the 360 will only see the maximum of 250gb as thats the highest capacity drive M$ have released so far. Eg you could use the SS from a 120gb or a 60gb on a 500gb, 320gb, or a 250gb but the SS from the drive cloned determines the available space. (you can turn your 250gb into 120gb)
#29
KitKatFox
And everyone with a download cap, or everyone without open internet access will suffer. Bravo to the games industry.

Eh ?
If you're wanting to download large files (ie, console games), then you're hardly going to choose an Internet service with a small download cap !!
People won't "suffer" at all - they'll simply choose whichever Internet service will fit their needs ... exactly like they already do.

Bear in mind that download-only consoles aren't coming any time soon - they're a none-starter until the vast majority of the population has a "reasonable" connection.
#30
Nom
Eh ?
If you're wanting to download large files (ie, console games), then you're hardly going to choose an Internet service with a small download cap !!
People won't "suffer" at all - they'll simply choose whichever Internet service will fit their needs ... exactly like they already do.

Bear in mind that download-only consoles aren't coming any time soon - they're a none-starter until the vast majority of the population has a "reasonable" connection.


But some services are not unlimited and have a cap built into small print, despite being described as such. It works both ways - I once had a 2GB per month cap, yet downloaded well over 200GB a month with no bother.

Conversely, a 40GB limit with Sky (do they still do this?), was exceeded slightly and a letter sent out to advise that it was okay as a one-off, but not to continue with heavy use.

Not to mention the fact that a lot of people can't get a decent service in their areas - download caps or not. It tends to be the case that where connections are limited in speeds, so are the bandwidth allowances. Living in the sticks was a nightmare for me!
#31
dontasciime
Once/ If M$ release a 500gb drive the security sector from that will be available to use on your own compatible 500gb drive.

You can theoretically use a 500gb drive now but the the 360 will only see the maximum of 250gb as thats the highest capacity drive M$ have released so far. Eg you could use the SS from a 120gb or a 60gb on a 500gb, 320gb, or a 250gb but the SS from the drive cloned determines the available space. (you can turn your 250gb into 120gb)


I follow you now. I would have thought Microsoft would eventually keep releasing larger drives as time goes on, as 250GB is still not exactly mind-blowing, but better than a poke in the eye.

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