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work in whsmith and these were reduced in store today! will get a picture tommorow and post it!
it had pac-man on the side so i presume it has the contents shown!
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#1
Do the latest consoles still suffer with the dreaded RROD?
banned#2
every smiths i have ever been in never has stock of any consoles and their games are always well overpriced
#3
supergoose
Do the latest consoles still suffer with the dreaded RROD?


Whilst I've heard that a few people have had problems, I've not spoken to anyone with a newer console that's had the problem. Only time will tell - the best thing is that there's a 3 year warranty of the RRoD so you have a long time before MS won't fix it for free.
banned#4
Xb0xGuru
Whilst I've heard that a few people have had problems, I've not spoken to anyone with a newer console that's had the problem. Only time will tell - the best thing is that there's a 3 year warranty of the RRoD so you have a long time before MS won't fix it for free.


not anymore mate
#5
Not found any in Manchester Arndale store.....
#6
fragaliciousbob
not anymore mate


Since when? Where have you read this?
banned#7
#8


Oh, ok - I thought you got it from MS themselves.

I've just tried to run a repair through on one of my older 360s and get this:

Current Warranty Status
# Device: Xbox360 Hardware
# Serial Number: xxxxxxxxxxxx
# Warranty Status: Standard Warranty Expired
# Warranty Type: Standard
# Warranty Start:
# Warranty Expiration: 11/14/2008 6:59:59 PM
Standard Warranty Expired: A three-year warranty applies to conditions indicated by three red lights.



Also, if I try to submit a repair:

Although your device shows out of warranty it may still qualify for a no-cost repair if you are experiencing the three flashing lights failure and are within three years of the original purchase date of the console.

Therefore I'd take it with a pinch of salt. MS announced a 3 year warranty on their website and until that changes from MS themselves, that's what it is.

EDIT: You've gotten it totally wrong - they're talking about LAUNCH DAY CONSOLES:

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-269207.aspx
http://www.obsessable.com/news/2009/02/01/xbox-360-extended-warranty-expires-february-2nd-for-launch-units/
#9
new consoles dont get rrod \0/
1 Like #10
supergoose
Do the latest consoles still suffer with the dreaded RROD?
Shouldn't do no. Make sure you get the newest version "Jasper" and you shouldn't have any problems. Details on how to find a Jasper here http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/12/12/how-to-find-a-jasper-xbox-360.aspx.
And if you can't find a Jasper then the current Falcon version is still far more stable compared to the older non HDMI Xenons which were utter c*** and always ended up dying. The Jasper and Falcon models both have upgraded cooling and thinner less power hungry components. The Falcon has a 65nm CPU and 90nm GPU where as the Jasper has both 65nm CPU and GPU so should run a little cooler and use less power. Jasper Arcades also have a built in internal memory card.

And on the warranty front, it's 1 year for ALL hardware faults and 3 years for 3 red light errors from date of purchase. The 3 year plan is still in place from the date you buy a new console.
#11
Diekund
new consoles dont get rrod \0/


No one is 100% sure of that!....with a little intervention any 360 can get the RROD :evil:
#12
Don't listen to the optimists - the RROD is still a fact of life with 360s - there's just too much heat and too little 'design' going on in them - the newer chipsets have helped but I've seen a brand-new latest-design 360 RROD inside 4 days of use so...

It's crucial they're kept where air can move freely (not standing next to your hot TV etc.) and away from carpets (dust!!) - and they still scratch discs esp. if you leave a disc in a 'vertical' 360 and move it in ANY way.

Most people reckon the best way to use a 360 is horizontal (to avoid disc scratching) but elevated from the surface (to ensure maximum airflow including the underside vents and that means standing it on something) - failing that keep it upright but NEVER move it with a disc inside...

p.s. GAME have been noted for swapping dead 360s instore for a lot of people - if the idea of having to send your 360 back to MS bugs you, they're probably the people to get one from...

p.p.s. I never said this if you have an a 1+ year old faulty XBOX which isn't RRODed - all you need is a towel and - I'll leave the rest to your imagination...
#13
Tony Harrison
Shouldn't do no. Make sure you get the newest version "Jasper" and you shouldn't have any problems. Details on how to find a Jasper here http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/12/12/how-to-find-a-jasper-xbox-360.aspx.
And if you can't find a Jasper then the current Falcon version is still far more stable compared to the older non HDMI Xenons which were utter c*** and always ended up dying. The Jasper and Falcon models both have upgraded cooling and thinner less power hungry components. The Falcon has a 65nm CPU and 90nm GPU where as the Jasper has both 65nm CPU and GPU so should run a little cooler and use less power. Jasper Arcades also have a built in internal memory card.

And on the warranty front, it's 1 year for ALL hardware faults and 3 years for 3 red light errors from date of purchase. The 3 year plan is still in place from the date you buy a new console.


Spot on,. although (albeit stocks would have to be in a dusty area of Makro or the like) there also are HDMI models that are not Falcons, the original HDMI consoles the Zephyr didnt have a 175w PSU or a 65nm CPU, were fractionally more reliable than the original Xenons.
#14
therealjohnpeat
Don't listen to the optimists - the RROD is still a fact of life with 360s - there's just too much heat and too little 'design' going on in them - the newer chipsets have helped but I've seen a brand-new latest-design 360 RROD inside 4 days of use so...

It's crucial they're kept where air can move freely (not standing next to your hot TV etc.) and away from carpets (dust!!) - and they still scratch discs esp. if you leave a disc in a 'vertical' 360 and move it in ANY way.

Most people reckon the best way to use a 360 is horizontal (to avoid disc scratching) but elevated from the surface (to ensure maximum airflow including the underside vents and that means standing it on something) - failing that keep it upright but NEVER move it with a disc inside...

p.s. GAME have been noted for swapping dead 360s instore for a lot of people - if the idea of having to send your 360 back to MS bugs you, they're probably the people to get one from...


Good advice, the 360 needs space around it to cool and should never under any circumstances be moved whilst a disk is spinning.

Giving its shortfalls I stil have two and prefer gaming on a 360 than a PS3 anyday! Gamestation are great for buying from too, I blagged returning my original xenon for a zephyr under warranty, saying it kept freezing, then a couple of months later took that back saying that kept freezing and got a brand new falcon. Both my 360s are falcons now, a second one bought late last year from Sainsbury for the same price as this.
#15
cicobuff
No one is 100% sure of that!....with a little intervention any 360 can get the RROD :evil:
I think he was implying that Microsoft no longer use the 3 red lights to indicate a hardware fault on the new consoles. So the 3 red light error literally doesn't exist anymore :p.

therealjohnpeat
Don't listen to the optimists - the RROD is still a face of life with 360s. It's still important they're kept somewhere where air can move freely etc. etc.

Also they still scratch discs - esp. if you leave a disc in a 'vertical' 360 and move it in ANY way.

Most people reckon the best way to use a 360 is horizontal 9to avoid scratches) but elevated from the surface (to ensure maximum airflow) - that means standing it on 2 supports - failing that keep it upright but NEVER most it with a disc inside...
The newer units so far appear much more stable compared to the older versions and like I was saying have improved cooling and components. I've never heard of a BenQ or Lite-On drive scratching a disc. Obviously moving the console while a disc is spinning inside is asking for trouble, but that's just common sense. I'd expect my PC to do the same if I tilted it on it's side while playing a dvd.
#16
The biggest problem is if you intervene and upgrade the cooling yourself you're voiding the warranty, if trying to avoid the problem happening to begin with. But if you wait, especially with the older versions it seems to me like it's just a matter of time.

laze
#17
hot if it is i work at whsmith il check monday
#18
will this just plug and play for xbox live?
#19
Tony Harrison
I think he was implying that Microsoft no longer use the 3 red lights to indicate a hardware fault on the new consoles. So the 3 red light error literally doesn't exist anymore :p.

.



I know, just my evil sense of humour tonight!....any 360 can be overheated easily with a little intervention, ensuing a 3 year warranty on all :whistling:
#20
joharni
will this just plug and play for xbox live?


If you have a router, yes just use a ethernet patch cable, if you need it wireless though you will either need to buy a wireless bridge (cheaper) or the official MS Wireless adapter (a M$ rip off)

The Arcade pack however doesnt have a patch cable supplied with it, so you would have to buy one.
#21
Aaaah look, a bunch of geeks are talking in abreviations, bless! ;-)
#22
I'll be down to WHsmith tomorrow am. They had no Xbox consoles or games on the shelf on Friday in an Edinburgh store.
Until then I'll save the heat.
Cheets.
#23
joharni
will this just plug and play for xbox live?
Near enough. Like cicobuff says you'll need a network cable if buying an Arcade but these can be bought for a quid from poundland. Just plug directly into your router and it should set itself up for you. Also new Xboxs come with 4 1 month Xbox Live gold accounts built in. Just create a new account and you automatically get 1 month of free Xbox Live :thumbsup:.
#24
which store? all stores?
banned#25
Sorry to jump into this thread but i need help regarding XBOX Live....i have Vodafone mobile broadband - is it possible to get Xbox Live with it or is it only possible wiht those that have landline Broadband?

I take it you cant just plug the usb dongle straight into the Xbox?
#26
You have to remember the RROD means general system error, although most RROD's were caused by one EPIC issue with the launch machines it still means a newer 360 could RROD due to a different problem entirely.

It's not unlike the OMG MY iPhone BROKE WHEN I ATE IT NOW I CAN'T GO TOILET general error you see on the Intertubes.
#27
fragaliciousbob
not anymore mate


PS3 fan boy ....:whistling:
#28
Mr Product
Sorry to jump into this thread but i need help regarding XBOX Live....i have Vodafone mobile broadband - is it possible to get Xbox Live with it or is it only possible wiht those that have landline Broadband?

I take it you cant just plug the usb dongle straight into the Xbox?


Nope, the USB dongle is no good for plugging straight into any games console.

You can get Routers that you plug a USB Mobile Broadband modem into that the console in turn connects to, however despite the claimed speeds of Mobile Broadband I doubt it's fast enough* to do Xbox Live justice.

*I'm not talking the Megabytes speed advertised by the broadband, but ping rates, response times and all sorts of other geekery.
#29
kentc81
PS3 fan boy ....:whistling:


And also quoting from a site in his original post that seems to have done a chinese whispers on the site they in turn were quoting.

OMG Launch Day 360 3-Year RROD warranty now invalid. Probably because launch consoles were bought 3 years ago, so in fact it's old father time that's expiring these warranties and not *Mosquito* Bill Gates?

He'll be telling us The Pope goes to the toilet in the woods and that Bears are catholic next.
banned#30
lazygamer
Nope, the USB dongle is no good for plugging straight into any games console.

You can get Routers that you plug a USB Mobile Broadband modem into that the console in turn connects to, however despite the claimed speeds of Mobile Broadband I doubt it's fast enough* to do Xbox Live justice.

*I'm not talking the Megabytes speed advertised by the broadband, but ping rates, response times and all sorts of other geekery.


Oh right.....probably not worth the hassle then.
#31
likely to be a display unit or two in one store in the country, if this is not true, please forgive me, lol
#32
#33
Mr Product
Sorry to jump into this thread but i need help regarding XBOX Live....i have Vodafone mobile broadband - is it possible to get Xbox Live with it or is it only possible wiht those that have landline Broadband?

I take it you cant just plug the usb dongle straight into the Xbox?


I have heard people have used these dongles to get on Live, as I understand it some work and some don't (something to do witht he way the ISP handles the traffic and gives out ports I think).
As the other guy said the speeds are terrible though compared to the advertised speeds and you would have to connect it through a router.
#34
leeds_united_afc


lol, overpriced high st games..

They need to do themesleves a favour too and cut out the WHSmith free library rubbish :x sick of standing behind someone waiting for them to stop reading a magazine so I can actually buy one.
#35
Don't just reply on the LOT 0843X number to identify a JasperThe way to identify a Jasper console is all written here:-

http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3472&p=2

I have noticed that the boxes on the Xboxes still show the old description of comparison where the Arcade has 256Mb unit (not built in) Premium 20Gb (Not 60Gb)

The only way to make sure is to open the box and look at the Power Supply Unit but the majority of stores will not allow this as it breaks the seal of the box.
#36
Just to be clear the 360 warranty will still cover the rr thing for 3 years? I have searched for the illusive story mentioned but only google link is back to this site....PS3 fanboism?
#37
Majnu
The only way to make sure is to open the box and look at the Power Supply Unit but the majority of stores will not allow this as it breaks the seal of the box.
Not true. Both the link you posted and the one I posted show how to be 100% sure you have a Jasper without opening the box. All you do is check the power rating printed on the console through the small serial number window on the box. Just make sure it says 12,1A and you're good to go. Checking the PSU isn't going to be accurate as a lot of the first batch Jaspers come with the Falcon 175w PSU as Microsoft shift old stock.
#38
Voted hot


As for RROD, a mate bought a dead 360 for £25, repaired it and installed it into here for long life. Cool project for a different looking 360, but total cost the same as this arcade deal.


http://images.hardware.info/news/lian_li_xb01a0057_550.jpg


http://www.ebuyer.com/search?page=1&q=xbox360&cat=23
banned#39
you know, let me contribute to you people. want some great advice?

it is easy to prove that the RROD (red ring of death) is a FAULT AT THE POINT OF SALE. this product comes faulty. they have not proven that the product is faultless.

tell them this, and forget 3 years, you can get a replacement by 6 years even.
#40
kapows
you know, let me contribute to you people. want some great advice?

it is easy to prove that the RROD (red ring of death) is a FAULT AT THE POINT OF SALE. this product comes faulty. they have not proven that the product is faultless.

tell them this, and forget 3 years, you can get a replacement by 6 years even.


Yep this is very sound advice. RROD is an acknowledged design fault, and UK consumer law covers this.

http://www.berr.gov.uk/whatwedo/consumers/fact-sheets/page38311.html

"In general, the onus is on all purchasers to prove the goods did not conform to contract (e.g. was inherently faulty) and should have reasonably lasted until this point in time (i.e. perishable goods do not last for six years)."

Note the above. Simple for RROD. More difficult if faults can be moved onto the user - lack of care or excessive wear etc.

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