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Microsoft Xbox Elite 120gb - £149.95 @ Tec7 (House of Fraser)

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banned6y, 11m agoFound 6 years, 11 months ago
Not sure if worth posting or not but giving it a shot.

I know there is a deal with Pure and Lego Batman for the same price but thats limited to Scotland.

The following stores have stock

Belfast, Birmingham, Glasgow, Guildford, High Wycombe, Lakeside, London - Oxford Street, Middlesbrough.

Not sure if they can deliver, might be worth ringing up and asking.
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#1
Does anyone know if this has the Jasper chip?
#2
Most of all new models made since mid 2009 are jasper MB. I wonder if this model ever incurred a RROD, any views on that?
#3
actress
Does anyone know if this has the Jasper chip?


what hell is a jasper chip,lol
#4
smoking hot
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welsh_andy;7521489
what hell is a jasper chip,lol
What hell, indeed.

What hell hath the Falcon wrought? Thine countenance, oh Box of X, has born many Rings of Red Death. Mine weary heart cannot longer bear the burden of thine fleeting attentions howsoever sweet those moments may be!

Hark! What respite doth the Jasper bring? Mine Box of X doth rise its head from sweet slumber and coolly take the air. Though outwardly mine eyes can see no change I yet recognise a change, a shift, a difference in thine heart. What magic this is! My dearest Box of X! Your Red Rings have been lost! And you connect to my TV with HDMI!

lol.

(and yes, this is all my own.)
#6
Sorry but I can't find this item, can you give directions or a specific link please?
#7
mr.velvet
What hell, indeed.

What hell hath the Falcon wrought? Thine countenance, oh Box of X, has born many Rings of Red Death. Mine weary heart cannot longer bear the burden of thine fleeting attentions howsoever sweet those moments may be!

Hark! What respite doth the Jasper bring? Mine Box of X doth rise its head from sweet slumber and coolly take the air. Though outwardly mine eyes can see no change I yet recognise a change, a shift, a difference in thine heart. What magic this is! My dearest Box of X! Your Red Rings have been lost! And you connect to my TV with HDMI!

lol.

(and yes, this is all my own.)


Excellent :roll:
Rep for that.
#8
abs7786
Most of all new models made since mid 2009 are jasper MB.


Quite so, it would have to be very old stock to get a Falcon mobo Elite now.

The Falcon Xbox 360 with the 65nm cooler running & more efficient CPU, coupled to it's smaller 80nm GPU & RAM, a shrinkage most overlook has a much improved reliability record - in fact some say Jasper was all about reducing production costs, not particularly improving reliability.
I've had 2 Falcons and not so much as lock-up with either.

I am enjoying my 250gb (Jasper) Super Elite but aside from the bigger hard drive there's nothing that stands out as a noticeable difference; it might be slightly quieter but it could be my imagination.
But then I always play games from the hard drive so noise in no longer an Xbox issue to me.

abs7786
I wonder if this model ever incurred a RROD, any views on that?


Funnily enough in the USA they have 3rd party warranty insurance company (SquareTrade) and they have released data on this.

It turns out that the (fat) PS3 fail rate is 10%.

Early Xbox fail rates ran at around 24%.
Falcon fail rates are put at between 5 - 10%.

Jasper failures (at an admittedly very early stage) are less than 1%.

Here's their PDF showing their data.

http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_Xbox360_PS3_Wii_Reliability_0809.pdf
#9
mr.velvet
What hell, indeed.

What hell hath the Falcon wrought? Thine countenance, oh Box of X, has born many Rings of Red Death. Mine weary heart cannot longer bear the burden of thine fleeting attentions howsoever sweet those moments may be!

Hark! What respite doth the Jasper bring? Mine Box of X doth rise its head from sweet slumber and coolly take the air. Though outwardly mine eyes can see no change I yet recognise a change, a shift, a difference in thine heart. What magic this is! My dearest Box of X! Your Red Rings have been lost! And you connect to my TV with HDMI!

lol.

(and yes, this is all my own.)


+1
#10
Adamo
Boob.


lol
#11
Just got back after a wasted trip to the Oxford St. branch. It's [SIZE="5"]£199 [/SIZE]there. :x
#12
Gixxerman001
Quite so, it would have to be very old stock to get a Falcon mobo Elite now.

The Falcon Xbox 360 with the 65nm cooler running & more efficient CPU, coupled to it's smaller 80nm GPU & RAM, a shrinkage most overlook has a much improved reliability record - in fact some say Jasper was all about reducing production costs, not particularly improving reliability.
I've had 2 Falcons and not so much as lock-up with either.

I am enjoying my 250gb (Jasper) Super Elite but aside from the bigger hard drive there's nothing that stands out as a noticeable difference; it might be slightly quieter but it could be my imagination.
But then I always play games from the hard drive so noise in no longer an Xbox issue to me.



Funnily enough in the USA they have 3rd party warranty insurance company (SquareTrade) and they have released data on this.

It turns out that the (fat) PS3 fail rate is 10%.

Early Xbox fail rates ran at around 24%.
Falcon fail rates are put at between 5 - 10%.

Jasper failures (at an admittedly very early stage) are less than 1%.

Here's their PDF showing their data.

http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_Xbox360_PS3_Wii_Reliability_0809.pdf


So basically the xbox 360 is now more reliable than the gaystation :-D
#13
This is flame grilled.
#14
mr.velvet
What hell, indeed.

What hell hath the Falcon wrought? Thine countenance, oh Box of X, has born many Rings of Red Death. Mine weary heart cannot longer bear the burden of thine fleeting attentions howsoever sweet those moments may be!

Hark! What respite doth the Jasper bring? Mine Box of X doth rise its head from sweet slumber and coolly take the air. Though outwardly mine eyes can see no change I yet recognise a change, a shift, a difference in thine heart. What magic this is! My dearest Box of X! Your Red Rings have been lost! And you connect to my TV with HDMI!

lol.

(and yes, this is all my own.)


Bravo, Heat and Rep!
#15
SirHugo
Just got back after a wasted trip to the Oxford St. branch. It's [SIZE="5"]£199 [/SIZE]there. :x


Did you get them to scan one through their tills? retail stores often fail at changing the price tickets with an urgency.
#16
Great price for an Elite. I already have a Pro, though after almost 3 years and in need of a larger harddrive I am sorely tempted to buy an Elite for this price. Might have to take a trip into town 2moro and see if there is any stock left.
#17
ToOn7
So basically the xbox 360 is now more reliable than the gaystation :-D


Well to be fair , we don't have data on the PS3 slim yet.

As I understand it that also has a cooler running smaller Cell in it (and they ditched some features IIRC) so the Sony's 'yellow light of death' is also less likely.

Basically I expect that they are all 'normal' now and as likely to last ages or go kaputt quickly as any modern robot production line 'made in China' goods are.

(and every one of the Xbox 360's are covered by a 3yr warranty on the things that people claim to be afraid of)
#18
Does the 3yr warranty cover everything? even the dvd drive, cause mine has been acting up lately.

i put a game in, and you have to open and close the draw a few times for it to register theres summit in there. plus theres no scratches or smudges on the disks either.
#19
ToOn7
Does the 3yr warranty cover everything? even the dvd drive, cause mine has been acting up lately.

i put a game in, and you have to open and close the draw a few times for it to register theres summit in there. plus theres no scratches or smudges on the disks either.


The Microsoft website tells you what it covers but I think it is basically Red Ring of Death. It is on there though: http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/support/

I have a Falcon chipset and although it has never had any faults there is one thing - it doesn't seem quick enough! When I play GTA:IV and Liberty Stories it doesn't seem able to render fast enough. The detail of road and streets take a while to actually appear - pop-ins I think they are known as. I wonder if this is a Falcon thing or whether someone can comment on whether Jasper has the same issue?
#20
Nice if you can get one :)
#21
thegroutch
3 year warranty is on RROD only afaik


....and the E74 fault.

I'm not aware of it covering anything else.

(ToOn7
If you are out of warranty and handy with this kind of thing a DVD drive is cheap & pretty easy to replace with a new one.)
#22
hyakuhei
Sorry but I can't find this item, can you give directions or a specific link please?


MS X-Box Elite Console
#23
fps_d0minat0r

1) ps3's servers hold far more players with less lag then xbox ones do.
2) xbox used to have the best games, since mid 2008 ps3 has had the best games.
3) ps3 has larger compatability for gaming peripherals then xbox via both USB and bluetooth.
4) technically the ps3's hardware is better than 360 and its games tend to be larger because of blu-ray.
5) ps3 uses HDMI 1.3 which has dolby true HD, xbox elite uses 1.2 which does not have dolby true HD.

please reply atleast 2 points as to why the xbox is a better gaming system.

btw i didnt vote the deal.


1) Highly debateable.
2) Simply not true. PS3 has a handful of 1st party games which are very good but Xbox usually has the better version of the 3rd party games.
3) Like what?
4) Hair-splitting, they both look and sound the same bar the most minute differences.
5) Nobody makes games with genuine use of Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD MA (lossles audio).
In terms of video playback PS3 has only been able to bitstream HD audio since the slim.
Xbox uses HDMI 1.2a which is good enough for SACD & DVD-Audio 5.1 quality audio.
I'm betting few have the kit to even use lossless audio and most couldn't tell the difference anyways.

Xbox has the best 3rd party support.
In other words all the really big games look and sound best on Xbox.

Xbox is - by far- the better deal when the recent bundles are looked at.

If you already have an Xbox 360 & a Blu-ray standalone I really can't see the point of buying PS3, just for a handful of games?
Why?
Standalones are now fairly cheap & profile 2.0.
#24
Can anyone confirm the price at oxford circus as im going up there this Saturday and might pick one up but my get one on ebay.
#25
Guildford don't stock 360s.
#26
thegroutch
nice price for the console by itself
but there have been alot better offers with games & the WEP over the last few months
and even the current amazon one would effectively give you the console for this price, and then Bayonetta & Darksiders for £50


Yes but Baynoetta is steaming pile of s*ite so it's not that great of deal.
#27
mr.velvet
What hell, indeed.

What hell hath the Falcon wrought?......


Repped!
#28
FrankieHoward
Yes but Baynoetta is steaming pile of s*ite so it's not that great of deal.


Lol, I think you'll find it's amazing... Some people are just weird.
banned#29
for anyone that is getting told its £199, tell them its £149 on the site or tell them to check properly on the sale list.

My mate worked at tec7 until last week(only a temp) and this is definately the price.

Also I didnt post it but the PS3 80gb is at £199 at tec7 for all the PS3 fanboys out there.
#30
mr.velvet
What hell, indeed.

What hell hath the Falcon wrought? Thine countenance, oh Box of X, has born many Rings of Red Death. Mine weary heart cannot longer bear the burden of thine fleeting attentions howsoever sweet those moments may be!

Hark! What respite doth the Jasper bring? Mine Box of X doth rise its head from sweet slumber and coolly take the air. Though outwardly mine eyes can see no change I yet recognise a change, a shift, a difference in thine heart. What magic this is! My dearest Box of X! Your Red Rings have been lost! And you connect to my TV with HDMI!

+Rep :w00t:
#31
Meadowhall sheffield

2Games + Controller £19.99
X-Box Elite Console £149.99
Total = £169.98

Cant post receipt nt got scanner, i did nt av a problem price tags on display
banned#32
Moka-Bear
Ah the irony in bigging up the 360 and then calling people who like a PS3 a fanboy.


i'm not bigging it up, just a good price for what it is. I used to have a 360 then decided to go to PS3. I like the selection of games on the 360 but the PS3 has the blu-ray so that swayed me.
#33
Gixxerman001
1) Highly debateable.
2) Simply not true. PS3 has a handful of 1st party games which are very good but Xbox usually has the better version of the 3rd party games.
3) Like what?
4) Hair-splitting, they both look and sound the same bar the most minute differences.
5) Nobody makes games with genuine use of Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD MA (lossles audio).
In terms of video playback PS3 has only been able to bitstream HD audio since the slim.
Xbox uses HDMI 1.2a which is good enough for SACD & DVD-Audio 5.1 quality audio.
I'm betting few have the kit to even use lossless audio and most couldn't tell the difference anyways.

Xbox has the best 3rd party support.
In other words all the really big games look and sound best on Xbox.

Xbox is - by far- the better deal when the recent bundles are looked at.

If you already have an Xbox 360 & a Blu-ray standalone I really can't see the point of buying PS3, just for a handful of games?
Why?
Standalones are now fairly cheap & profile 2.0.


So what you are basically saying is [in the words of Brian Griffin] "in your f**king face, f**kwad!"
#34
travelchic
Meadowhall sheffield

2Games + Controller £19.99
X-Box Elite Console £149.99
Total = £169.98

Cant post receipt nt got scanner, i did nt av a problem price tags on display


Thanks for posting :thumbsup:

What is the manufacture date of your Elite?
#35
RoBad
Lol, I think you'll find it's amazing... Some people are just weird.


There's nothing amazing about it. Mediocre graphics, painfully repetitive gameplay, bad camera angles. It's Devil May Cry with chicks and that sucked as well.

Darksiders on the other hand, that is an amazing game.
#36
The sample of 360's that 4% failure rate was based on was only 500 consoles so it's not conclusive by any means.

Game informer magazine carried out the largest survey of failure rate of 360's and it was 54.2% which is 5 times that of the old style PS3. The majority of 360's in that survey though i'm sure are pre jasper models but owning both consoles and judging on build quality i'd be stunned if the Jasper 360's are as reliable as the PS3 Slim. Almost a quarter of 360 returns are down to problems with the dvd drive and the one on my new console that i got last week after the Amazon deal listed here sounded as loud and clunky as my 3 year old which succombed to the dreaded RROD. Maybe i've been spoilt by my almost silent PS3 but the 360 really is bloody noisey.

From Joystiq Website

"The latest issue of Game Informer contains a surprising statistic for anyone who's ever loved and lost their Microsoft-branded home console according to their survey, in which over 5,000 console owners participated, the Xbox 360's current failure rate due to the Red Ring of Death, E74 or other hardware failure is 54.2 percent.

Unfortunately, for having the highest failure rate, survey participants also pinned Microsoft for having the least helpful customer service representatives. Not that it matters later in the survey, only 3.8 percent of participants said they'd never buy another Xbox 360 due to its high failure rate.

Speaking of which, we're not sure what future techno-utopia this poll was conducted in, but a 54.2 percent Xbox 360 failure rate sounds awfully low. Had the survey's participants been comprised entirely of Joystiq staffers, it would have been a bone-chilling 100 percent".
#37
PaulTheYid
So what you are basically saying is [in the words of Brian Griffin] "in your f**king face, f**kwad!"


Naaa, I just find the arguments put up to make mountains out of the molehills of difference between the 2 consoles a bit silly.

MDL199
The sample of 360's that 4% failure rate was based on was only 500 consoles so it's not conclusive by any means.......

......Game informer magazine carried out the largest survey of failure rate of 360's and it was 54.2% which is 5 times that of the old style PS3.


Sorry but console web-site with a self-selecting and totally unverified sample of people claiming to be Xbox owners having problems is just simply no substitute for an insurance company who cannot muck about favouring one lot or the other.
They are all about informed & calculated risk.
Not fanboys signing in to pretend that their Xbox almost killed them.

Come on, be serious.
There's a hell of a lot more reason to have confidence in that insurance companies' data than a web-site where the worst members of the Sony PS gang can go and claim anything they like without anyone doing any checking whatsoever.

(* and you're probably right btw, considering how some of those console fanzines operate I'm surprised they weren't able to get the number higher*)

You'll also find that SquareTrade charge the same premium for both consoles.
Which is also interesting.
#38
Gixxerman001
Naaa, I just find the arguments put up to make mountains out of the molehills of difference between the 2 consoles a bit silly.



Sorry but console web-site with a self-selecting and totally unverified sample of people claiming to be Xbox owners having problems is just simply no substitute for an insurance company who cannot muck about favouring one lot or the other.
They are all about informed & calculated risk.
Not fanboys signing in to pretend that their Xbox almost killed them.

Come on, be serious.
There's a hell of a lot more reason to have confidence in that insurance companies' data than a web-site where the worst members of the Sony PS gang can go and claim anything they like without anyone doing any checking whatsoever.

(* and you're probably right btw, considering how some of those console fanzines operate I'm surprised they weren't able to get the number higher*)

You'll also find that SquareTrade charge the same premium for both consoles.
Which is also interesting.


If they were mainly Sony fanboys in the Game Informer survey than I suspect more than 3.8% would have said they'd never buy a 360 again.

Certainly amongst people I know with the console about a 50% failure rate sounds right. Former Teletext games magazine Game Central said they'd gone through 3 360's since launch. It has some fine games but it's not a reliable piece of hardware although i'm hoping for better with my new Jasper model.

More on the figures from warranty insurance company Square Trade

Microsoft's console historically less reliable, concludes 16,000-console survey by warranty firm SquareTrade; first-year 360 failure rates now under 4%.

Hot on the heels of a controversial Game Informer survey comes a new study that also pegs the Xbox 360 as the least reliable console on the market. Electronics-warranty company SquareTrade has issued a survey of 16,000 game consoles it serviced from the second quarter of 2007 to the first quarter of 2009. The report analyzed approximately 2,500 PlayStation 3s, 2,500 Xbox 360s and 11,000 Wiis selected at random. (The company found Wii owners much more likely to buy warranties.) All consoles had been purchased new and had not been damaged by their owners.

By contrast, the study found 10 percent of PlayStation 3s surveyed failed within two years of purchase, as did 2.7 percent of Wiis. However, SquareTrade pointed out an April survey by media-research firm Nielsen that concluded the Wii is the least played of the three major consoles, being used for only 516 minutes per month. By contrast, the Xbox 360 is played over twice as much (1,191 minutes per month), with the PS3 slightly behind it (1,053 minutes per month).

As with the Game Informer study, SquareTrade found that the Xbox 360's failure rate was far higher than its rivals. Some 23.7 percent of those surveyed failed within two years of purchase: 12 percent from the infamous "Red Ring of Death" and 11.7 percent from other problems, including the "E74" error. Both problems are covered by the 360's three-year manufacturer's warranty, which the company began offering in 2007 for a cost of over $1 billion.

Also to its credit, SquareTrade released a timeline for Xbox 360s that failed in their first year. Up until 2007, the 360 "Xenon" and "Zephyr" models were equipped with a 90nm-process CPU and GPU that generated considerable heat--a likely culprit in the still officially unexplained Red Ring of Death failures. Their replacement, called "Falcon," was released in the fourth quarter of 2007 with a cooler 65nm-process CPU and a 90nm GPU, several months after the launch of the Xbox 360 Elite.

However, the Falcon introduction had an adverse immediate effect, with the first two quarters of 2008 seeing first-year 360 failures spike to 10 percent. However, the study points out that a sell-off of older consoles in the fourth quarter of 2007, which then met their maker the following year, could also be a factor. Since Q3 2008, first-year 360 failure rates have plummeted.

Fortunately, SquareTrade found that Xbox 360 quality has improved dramatically since the third quarter of 2008, shortly before the 65nm CPU/GPU "Jasper" model was introduced. Since then, first-year failure rates have plummeted to below the 4 percent the company projected. Looking at 500 units purchased in 2009, SquareTrade found that less than 1 percent had suffered the Red Ring of Death.

SquareTrade's analysis of recently purchased 360s appears to back up statements made by Xbox 360 and Xbox Live director of product management Aaron Greenberg. In an interview with GameSpot just before the Xbox 360 Elite $299 price drop, the executive said that Microsoft has made great improvements in the console's quality control. "I think we've made it clear we stand by the quality of our product, and we will make it right by fixing the problem at no extra cost to you," declared Greenberg. "But at the same time, we've been working hard to make improvements in the products we're currently making, so I really feel like most of this is well behind us." CommentTagPrintEmailFacebookDiggTweet1417 CommentsRefresh comments
#39
MDL199
If they were mainly Sony fanboys in the Game Informer survey than I suspect more than 3.8% would have said they'd never buy a 360 again.


No, personally I think the word went out to bash the Xbox in the most plausible way possible and unreliability
(at a time when reliability had vastly improved) was the target they chose.

Regardless of whether you or I agree or disagree on this, the point I made is still totally valid the,
mere, survey was totally unverified and completely self-selecting,
nobody would give credibility to mere unchecked claims on any other topic.

(especially on a topic so full of silly competitive fanboy nonsense)

MDL199
Certainly amongst people I know with the console about a 50% failure rate sounds right.


Anecdote really doesn't prove anything.
I know a couple of 1st SKU Xbox owners who are still happily spending hours on the thing & without any problems.
Neither of my own Falcon Xboxes gave a hint of trouble and my Jasper is as good as.

MDL199
it's not a reliable piece of hardware although i'm hoping for better with my new Jasper model.


As the SquareTrade data shows Xbox is now reliable as PS3 (if not more so) and has been for a couple of years.
People can hark back to old news if they like but the truth is that Xbox has been 'normal' for a couple of years now.

MDL199
More on the figures from warranty insurance company Square Trade


That's an interesting commentary but it does point out a 2 year history of Xbox unreliability peaking at 10% and falling to 4%.

(which is interesting when set against the 'fat' PS3's record of a failure rate of 10%)
#40
How sad, console fanboys.

Hot deal though!

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