MIELE WKR 570 WPS 9Kg Washing Machine @ Currys £1299 - HotUKDeals
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I can understand this is a lot of money, I self haven't even considered these high priced machines until my zanussi broke down recently.
A+++ 9kg capacity and most program washes in an hour. Self dispensing detergent and softner for up to a month. Special detergent tabs for washing if preferred.
Miele has a reputation for reliability, usually whatever I have posted I have bought. On this occasion I'm at two minds between a top of the range 10kg Samsung on order or £300 more for this.
large capacity, self dosing detergent, 5yr warranty and steam. What differs is reliability track record and the ability to extend warranty up to 10 years with the miele. In case this is a price booboo you should put in a claim with john lewis b4 ordering.
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banned 2 Likes #1
I'd rather lick my clothes clean than spend this much..........:|
#2
stick with Bosch washing machine. reliable and cheaper than a Miele.. Forget Samsung unless you dont mind the noise when clothes get spun..
#3
copthis1
I'd rather lick my clothes clean than spend this much..........:|


Hope that they are not that dirty then

It's a quality branded washing machine I have one and in all fairness no faults last 6 years

Heat !
#4
bhupeshm
stick with Bosch washing machine. reliable and cheaper than a Miele.. Forget Samsung unless you dont mind the noise when clothes get spun..
How noisy, my zanussi was noisy 1200 spin but I really did not take much notice as it was in the utility room.
banned#5
bhupeshm
stick with Bosch washing machine. reliable and cheaper than a Miele.. Forget Samsung unless you dont mind the noise when clothes get spun..

My Bosch has been a pain in the drum.............
#6
Meile are the new Bosch. Proper German quality, not made in Turkey like many Bosch products are now.

Yes, it is expensive, but you would expect this machine to last for 10 years. You'd easily go through 4 rubbish £300 washing machines before this one gives up the ghost.

It might not be for everyone, but unless you can find this product for less, don't cold vote.

I've heard bad things about Samsung too, from an official Samsung service engineer. They are something of a lottery in terms of quality I believe. His advice was to return the broken Sammy and get a mid-range Bosch.
#7
That's a lot of money for a washing machine, i know they claim it has been tested for 20 years use but who cares? It's highly likely in the next few years washing machines will use steam cleaning or other dry technologies.
#8
After having 2 fairly hum-drum brands of washing machine - the first of which (hotpoint) last over 15 years and the second (zanussi) is currently on it's 10th year and running really well. My only words of advice would be to wedge your washing machine in tight, strap it down to the floor and don't allow it to move a mm. You will add years of life from just not permitting the thing to vibrate and shake itself to death over time.


Edited By: Pasanda on Jul 01, 2014 14:22
#9
Angry_B
Meile are the new Bosch. Proper German quality, not made in Turkey like many Bosch products are now.

It matters not one jot where a Bosch washer is made.

All Bosch machines are made in Bosch factories to exactly the same standard as if they were in Germany. Bosch machines are not re-badged generic models. Their decision to manufacture outside Germany is purely economic ie manufacturing costs and overheads are less therefore profits are greater.
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useless_57
Angry_B
Meile are the new Bosch. Proper German quality, not made in Turkey like many Bosch products are now.

It matters not one jot where a Bosch washer is made.

All Bosch machines are made in Bosch factories to exactly the same standard as if they were in Germany. Bosch machines are not re-badged generic models. Their decision to manufacture outside Germany is purely economic ie manufacturing costs and overheads are less therefore profits are greater.

And yet, they are less reliable and their reputation has begun to suffer.

They are still a good brand, but they are not what they used to be.
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#12
Yet Samsung are prepared to back their machines with a 5 year parts & labour warranty, whereas Bosch only give 2 years.......and I really don't believe Bosch are anywhere near as good as they use to be and find the Bosch love-in to be quite bizarre.

Miele is a top brand, and like Samsung, are prepared to back their machines with a proper warranty.
#13
Miele is better! My sister brought a Samsung washing machine (it was really expensive) and after 3 years the rubber rim had a hole, Samsung did nothing!!!
#14
Not sure about the deal on this model but Miele are worth the staggering prices. Our last hotpoint cost many hundreds and lasted a year before the bearings wore out.
this one only has 5 yr warranty included which is a bit poor for Miele (was 10 Yr)

Edited By: alang99 on Jul 01, 2014 16:37: clarifying
#15
I love AEG myself!.
#16
alang99
Not sure about the deal on this model but Miele are worth the staggering prices. Our last hotpoint cost many hundreds and lasted a year before the bearings wore out.
this one only has 5 yr warranty included which is a bit poor for Miele (was 10 Yr)

Maybe they don't make them like they used to. There's still consensus for German makes as setting the standard. The deal is £300 less than what other retailers are selling for, which I suspect is an error as with the Samsung which quickly changed to the selling price of £1699 in line with other retailers.

Edited By: kabs on Jul 01, 2014 17:13
#17
Siemens for me. Better than Bosch but cheaper than Miele!

Edited By: Tyranicus66 on Jul 01, 2014 18:02
#18
Tyranicus66
Siemens for me. Better than Bosch but cheaper than Miele!

Better than - or just rebadged, given that they're both part of BSH Bosch und Siemens Hausgeräte GmbH? :|
#19
The varying quality in washing machines will be down to usage. One may only wash once per week but another may be on twice per day, 14 times as much, 52 washes pa compared to 730 washes pa.

Bearings usually the thing to go on washers and the wide variation in their usage gives rise to rumours of quality variance.
#20
bhupeshm
stick with Bosch washing machine. reliable and cheaper than a Miele.. Forget Samsung unless you dont mind the noise when clothes get spun..
Bosch are reliable, yes, but Bosch machines are designed to last a lot less time than Miele machines. Your Bosch machine will not last anything like as long as a Miele, simply because the components aren't designed or built to last that long. Hard fact, I'm afraid.

Having said that, I'd be inclined to wait for one of the periodic free 10 year warranty offers to come up before buying a Miele if at all possible. Or pay the extra £149 to upgrade to one.

And I'd be going for the £799 W3370, too at £500 less. You might even be able to get a free 10 year warranty on it with this:

https://www.miele.co.uk/promotions/Free-10-Year-Warranty-on-Selected-Washing-Machines/
#21
Had a Miele machine only got 6 years out it of due to an uneconomical repair.
They are not built to last anymore but are happy to keep up the pretence that you will get 20 year performance (maybe true at one time).
Overpriced junk...Cold....cold...cold....

Edited By: scottswaha on Jul 01, 2014 20:03
#22
N1Andy
Yet Samsung are prepared to back their machines with a 5 year parts & labour warranty, whereas Bosch only give 2 years.......and I really don't believe Bosch are anywhere near as good as they use to be and find the Bosch love-in to be quite bizarre.

Miele is a top brand, and like Samsung, are prepared to back their machines with a proper warranty.

Samsung do not back their machines with a 5 year guarantee at all, they give you an insurance policy to cover you for when it does break down. Who will you call when it breaks? Domestic & General and then they will send any old contractor out to fix it. Samsung do not employ any service engineers.

Bosch have their own engineers, as do Miele who are employed by them and trained by them and have quick access to parts if needed. If want a genuine longer guarantee the only brands to buy are Miele and Siemens. All other 5 year warranties are insurance backed, including AEG, Samsung, LG, Panasonic etc...
#23
Newbold
Tyranicus66
Siemens for me. Better than Bosch but cheaper than Miele!

Better than - or just rebadged, given that they're both part of BSH Bosch und Siemens Hausgeräte GmbH? :|

Porsche and Volkswagen are part of the same of the company, but they are certainly not "rebadged" versions of the same product. Siemens is positioned above Bosch and the spec reflects it also :)

Edited By: Tyranicus66 on Jul 01, 2014 20:39
#24
checkley73
N1Andy
Yet Samsung are prepared to back their machines with a 5 year parts & labour warranty, whereas Bosch only give 2 years.......and I really don't believe Bosch are anywhere near as good as they use to be and find the Bosch love-in to be quite bizarre.

Miele is a top brand, and like Samsung, are prepared to back their machines with a proper warranty.

Samsung do not back their machines with a 5 year guarantee at all, they give you an insurance policy to cover you for when it does break down. Who will you call when it breaks? Domestic & General and then they will send any old contractor out to fix it. Samsung do not employ any service engineers.

Bosch have their own engineers, as do Miele who are employed by them and trained by them and have quick access to parts if needed. If want a genuine longer guarantee the only brands to buy are Miele and Siemens. All other 5 year warranties are insurance backed, including AEG, Samsung, LG, Panasonic etc...

Is that for the standard warranty 2yrs only

To purchase the 10 year extended warranty for your Miele washing machine please contact our authorised warranty partners Domestic and General on 0845 650 9306
#25
Tyranicus66
Newbold
Tyranicus66
Siemens for me. Better than Bosch but cheaper than Miele!

Better than - or just rebadged, given that they're both part of BSH Bosch und Siemens Hausgeräte GmbH? :|

Porsche and Volkswagen are part of the same of the company, but they are certainly not "rebadged" versions of the same product. Siemens is positioned above Bosch and the spec reflects it also :)
I'm afraid I have to disagree with you. VW and Porsche are run entirely separately. They each make entirely different cars, despite the common ownership.

Siemens and Bosch, however, are not run separately. They make much the same products, using the same parts, and in many cases you'll find that the only difference is the badge and some cosmetic styling.
#26
scottswaha
Had a Miele machine only got 6 years out it of due to an uneconomical repair.
They are not built to last anymore but are happy to keep up the pretence that you will get 20 year performance (maybe true at one time).
Overpriced junk...Cold....cold...cold....
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story. Yours is an unfortunate incident, and there's always going to be the odd rogue machine. However, Miele is the only brand of washing machine which is genuinely built (still) with a 20 year life expectancy.
#27
Newbold
scottswaha
Had a Miele machine only got 6 years out it of due to an uneconomical repair.
They are not built to last anymore but are happy to keep up the pretence that you will get 20 year performance (maybe true at one time).
Overpriced junk...Cold....cold...cold....
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story. Yours is an unfortunate incident, and there's always going to be the odd rogue machine. However, Miele is the only brand of washing machine which is genuinely built (still) with a 20 year life expectancy.
Actually No.
The internet forums are FULL of precisely the failure of the SAME part in the same time scale. Yes, there is an apparent disenchantment with the Miele myth which you speak of. Virtually, NO Miele machine will last 20 years without uneconomical repairs, nor are they designed to. I have done the research and had the arguments with Miele (deceivers).
Machines lasting beyond 20 years was due to exceptional engineering, the machines are now made on cost first basis, many parts are actually shared with cheaper machines.
Incidentally, I am a qualified electronic engineer. what is your qualification to challenge my findings?
#28
The secret is not to overload them.
#29
My Miele washing machine has lasted 21 years so far and is still going.

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