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Wanted some of these for some time, to go with some MX3, I was about to pull the trigger at £99.95 before Xmas, just spotted them at £79 and couldn't resist going in an ordering a pair to pick up in a few days.
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#1
Sadly not the mission quality of old.
#2
MR GUS
Sadly not the mission quality of old.


Yes we have a pair of Mission bought over 20 years ago and still sound brilliant. However the ones you buy now just don't compare.
#3
Mission of old are now Q Acoustics owned by the same group that makes the QED cables.
#4
No, not unless you are talking about certain engineers, mission is now not made in huntingdonshire, but part of a chinese company who own a range of old school brands, now made in china without the care of the Huntingdon lot, ovberseen by an ex Wharfedale manager.
#5
kester76
Mission of old are now Q Acoustics owned by the same group that makes the QED cables.

Are you son of "Mark" perchance Kester!?
#6
MR GUS
kester76
Mission of old are now Q Acoustics owned by the same group that makes the QED cables.

Are you son of "Mark" perchance Kester!?
No sorry no relation. Not sure why I keep adding an s to Q Acoustic.
#7
kester76
MR GUS
kester76
Mission of old are now Q Acoustics owned by the same group that makes the QED cables.

Are you son of "Mark" perchance Kester!?
No sorry no relation. Not sure why I keep adding an s to Q Acoustic.

Ok,was just wondering if Kester was your actual name, as it was one of the guys at Mission's sons, back in the day.
banned#8
MR GUS
No, not unless you are talking about certain engineers, mission is now not made in huntingdonshire, but part of a chinese company who own a range of old school brands, now made in china without the care of the Huntingdon lot, ovberseen by an ex Wharfedale manager.
you seem to have excellent insider knowledge
1 Like #9
WillieGallimore
MR GUS
No, not unless you are talking about certain engineers, mission is now not made in huntingdonshire, but part of a chinese company who own a range of old school brands, now made in china without the care of the Huntingdon lot, ovberseen by an ex Wharfedale manager.
you seem to have excellent insider knowledge

I worked for them when they were a damn good brand & the majority of employees had a real brand ethos (I kid you not) the boss Farad Azima was a great guy & inspiration, ..unfortunately he loosened his grip on the company & allowed others more of the day to day running decisions (& vanities) that came with it, ..I was a longstanding employee, I'd do my time again for the brand & the people if they were willing to put the effort in, if we hadn't done what we did then Wharfedale wouldn't be where it is today, nor other heritage brands, imho Mission was the biggest loser in all we did to keep British hi-fi flying & profitable. (as it was then)
(& the boss used to take us ski-ing) ..good times, 95% truly good people ;)

Edited By: MR GUS on Dec 30, 2014 19:50: read through
banned#10
MR GUS
WillieGallimore
MR GUS
No, not unless you are talking about certain engineers, mission is now not made in huntingdonshire, but part of a chinese company who own a range of old school brands, now made in china without the care of the Huntingdon lot, ovberseen by an ex Wharfedale manager.
you seem to have excellent insider knowledge

I worked for them when they were a damn good brand & the majority of employees had a real brand ethos (I kid you not) the boss Farad Azima was a great guy & inspiration, ..unfortunately he loosened his grip on the company & allowed others more of the day to day running decisions (& vanities) that came with it, ..I was a longstanding employee, I'd do my time again for the brand & the people if they were willing to put the effort in, if we hadn't done what we did then Wharfedale wouldn't be where it is today, nor other heritage brands, imho Mission was the biggest loser in all we did to keep British hi-fi flying & profitable. (as it was then)
(& the boss used to take us ski-ing) ..good times, 95% truly good people ;)
Wow man I'd love to hear about things like this in depth you should write a blog or something. Do you still work in the industry? Were you in manufacturing?
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I started on the production floor (typically the majority of those who rose into management started there & did proper time) ..different for designers etc though.
Then went into QC & onward, ending up in the then pretty famous service (as service should be) department, sadly I was passed over for better jobs (should have vocalised more) as I was often working outside of the main factory, ..never thought it would end as it did, I got out in the back end of the 90's & lacking sales experience moved to audio / a.v sales & brand management elsewhere.

I'm deaf as a post from all the testing I did ;) ..some curiously passionate people involved in hi-fi, used to sleep at weekends in my anechoic chamber in order to try & turn around a 2 working day repair & return service (some folk are chasing their "babies" before they were even in the door, ..& couriers, don't get me started on couriers! ...all I can say is ALWAYS keep any boxes to do with audio equipment if you've invested, telling a cusotmer who'd "bodge" packed a unit for repair (especially an old one) that was smashed ..oh my word, tears, strangled screams & the like were not uncommon. :( ..especially with tall speakers, or ..hehe "anything with corners"

Needless to say I drive the other half crazy as I listen to sound reproduction not so much the actual music, & cannot stick a room where the quality is bad / poor recordings ..you have to leave your meal / drink & wait outside for others to finish,.. "passion" ..:{

Cambridgeshire used to be known as the "audio triangle" due to the amount of small & large firms within the area ..to some degree it still is.

design has to have soul, many brands brought under one roof lose that (like whisky distilleries on the same stretch of river differ so greatly) & become a sales vehicle sadly completely accountant driven!

We used to lose money on many heritage speakers carrying LOOONG-TERM spares, ressurrecting old cabinets, enabling sonic /vs size compromises for fighting couples, making good & fighting insurance companies for like for like replacements was a devil in the detail, I was always so grateful when I could co-erce a claimant of an old (but expensive unit) to have his insurance folk call me & put sound / size / & progress to good use, so they could get something decent rather than a perceived "worth"

We had incredible customers, ..hint: never sell to Argos / dixons unless you wish to crush that theory & your passion underfoot X)

(& it has turned me into a "customer service" centre nightmare caller).


Edited By: MR GUS on Dec 30, 2014 21:22
banned#12
MR GUS
I started on the production floor (typically the majority of those who rose into management started there & did proper time) ..different for designers etc though.
Then went into QC & onward, ending up in the then pretty famous service (as service should be) department, sadly I was passed over for better jobs (should have vocalised more) as I was often working outside of the main factory, ..never thought it would end as it did, I got out in the back end of the 90's & lacking sales experience moved to audio / a.v sales & brand management elsewhere.

I'm deaf as a post from all the testing I did ;) ..some curiously passionate people involved in hi-fi, used to sleep at weekends in my anechoic chamber in order to try & turn around a 2 working day repair & return service (some folk are chasing their "babies" before they were even in the door, ..& couriers, don't get me started on couriers! ...all I can say is ALWAYS keep any boxes to do with audio equipment if you've invested, telling a cusotmer who'd "bodge" packed a unit for repair (especially an old one) that was smashed ..oh my word, tears, strangled screams & the like were not uncommon. :( ..especially with tall speakers, or ..hehe "anything with corners"

Needless to say I drive the other half crazy as I listen to sound reproduction not so much the actual music, & cannot stick a room where the quality is bad / poor recordings ..you have to leave your meal / drink & wait outside for others to finish,.. "passion" ..:{

Cambridgeshire used to be known as the "audio triangle" due to the amount of small & large firms within the area ..to some degree it still is.

design has to have soul, many brands brought under one roof lose that (like whisky distilleries on the same stretch of river differ so greatly) & become a sales vehicle sadly completely accountant driven!

We used to lose money on many heritage speakers carrying LOOONG-TERM spares, ressurrecting old cabinets, enabling sonic /vs size compromises for fighting couples, making good & fighting insurance companies for like for like replacements was a devil in the detail, I was always so grateful when I could co-erce a claimant of an old (but expensive unit) to have his insurance folk call me & put sound / size / & progress to good use, so they could get something decent rather than a perceived "worth"

We had incredible customers, ..hint: never sell to Argos / dixons unless you wish to crush that theory & your passion underfoot X)

(& it has turned me into a "customer service" centre nightmare caller).

Absolutely fascinating, its a pleasure to hear from someone so completely immersed in the process. Would really like to hear more on this topic if you can divuge: like what areas did you think could improve? Were there many business decisions that compromised performance of the product? Any scandal or dysfuntional executives lol ?
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Willie, "improvements" all depend ultimately on what will sell & in what qty vs pricepoint, which is why there are so many workshop studio companies in the game producing small qty's of units be they amps etc or speaker systems, as well as perceived ideas sold via big companies & their budgets, so it's all really up in the air.

Needless to say the old rule does apply (& why box speakers will always sell) you cannot squeeze a large sound out of a small box without compromise) thus volume in terms of cabinet size, ..though many try.

My favourite material (sonically) was the ability of the aerogel doped speaker cone as epitomised by the early 752 speaker, solid mdf smooth porting (porting is always neglected in terms of mass moulding) ...bitumen panel loading in critical areas.

Wiring, always upgrade your wiring, since the early 90's this was frequently compromised on as manufacturers looked to knock back costs, I was forever bringing in speakers (officially) to rewire x-overs & adjust wadding materials slightly, in order to help out customers based on their "ear" ..which did make for a lot of second guessing based on extensive discussion, as well as weight loading smaller speakers & again playing around with either fixed front moulding baffle reflex ports or else smoothing airflow by customising ports (wish i'd had a dremel, used to do it all by eye with craft knife & sand-papers :D

Box speaker designs in the latter years cut too many corners in quality, air leaks through fancy-schmancy "sculpting" which relied on gaskets holding shape along with the correct torque on retaining screws (faceplates became all the rage, ..nowadays the vibration in a speaker is too darn frequent & harder to fix, ..but hey thats aesthetics of some who are no longer interested in good design who have already moved onto their next ego project, leaving a service department with a mound of spares to keep from here to eternity.

It's a tough call, if designing spend time with your service department to avoid mistakes, as re-tooling moulds is not cheap, & look at production line assembly beyond prototypes, engineers rarely made it onto a floor, ..more than once baff wadding a succession of cabinets to the exact fold & depth used to make arms sore / bleed, ..you'd have a designer to thank for that (who clearly didn't do it day in day out).

x-overs have become so cheap nowadays & are spot glued (so the first point of breakaway in transit leading to lots of returns, ..avoid this in part by thickening the plastic of many a x-over & tie-ing the coils down &/or bedding them in a flexible hot melt glue for longevity. (we changed the glue BAM a few times) & the thick plastic will take more screw-pressure & knocks.

Always tighten your screws / allen bolts retaining your drive units evenly & periodically, based on how hard you drive them.

Oh, & "what-hi-fi" magazine ...just leave it in the bin please!

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