Mongoose Tyax Elite Mountain Bike 2010 (RRP £449.99) £299.99 @ Rutland Cycles - HotUKDeals
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The Mongoose Tyax Elite features a fresh new design and the Tyax Elite is proven in XC trail performance, featuring a 6061 formed aluminium frame and completely draped with quality components.

•Frame: Mongoose 6061 formed aluminum, Zero Stack head tube and replaceable hanger
•Fork: Suntour XCR RL mag crown and lower, 100mm travel, preload and rebound adjust w/ remote lock out
•Crankset / Chainwheel: FSA Alpha Drive forged alloy (22/32/42T)
•Bottom Bracket: FSA sealed cartridge
•Pedals: alloy platform
•Front Derailleur: Suntour XCM202
•Rear Derailleur: SRAM X5
•Shifters: SRAM X4 triggers 24 speed
•Cog set: Shimano HG30 11-32T, 8-speed cassette
•Chain: KMC Z72
•Rims: Alex TD24 disc specific double wall
•Front Hub: Formula Disc Alloy QR 32H
•Rear Hub: Formula Disc Alloy QR and freehub 32H
•Spokes: 14G stainless
•Tires: 26x2.1 Kenda Komodo black skinwall
•Front Brake: Tektro Auriga Comp Hydraulic Disc w/ 160mm rotors
•Rear Brake: Tektro Auriga Comp Hydraulic Disc w/ 160mm rotors
•Brake Levers: Promax Hydraulic
•Handlebar: Mongoose alloy riser 31.8x30x635 mm (XS, S) 685mm (M, L, XL)
•Stem: Mongoose alloy 31.8 x 90 mm (S & M) 110mm (L, XL)
•Headset: 1 1/8" Zero Stack
•Grips: Mongoose Dual density Kraton
•Saddle: Mongoose XC Elite
•Seat Post: Mongoose alloy w/ micro adjust clamp
•Seat Clamp: Mongoose Alloy QR
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#1
That is good!
#2
like to hear some opinions from bike nerds on this one, looking for a bike for around £300... is this any good?
thats a very nice reduction in price either way!
1 Like #3
Decent price for a decent branded entry level bike.

Good spec for the money and a half decent frame.

Will be doing well to get a significantly better bike for the same money.

Edited By: konkywonky on Sep 12, 2010 20:14: typo
#4
Its OK but nothing special.

Mountain Bikes are a bit old hat now imho
#5
Does well in the sub 400* MTB comparisons, so for 300 this is a steal. In the unlikely event you can find the 2009 at the same price go for that, as I think they reduced the spec and kept the price the same for 2010. *Edit sub 450 even

Edited By: fluffy-k on Sep 12, 2010 20:31: ^
1 Like #6
I've been looking at this bike, amongst many others, for the past couple of weeks.

My budget forever shooting from around 250 up to 1280 for my favourite Cube Reaction CR.

However I've now decided to get a 'cheaper' bike to help lose the weight - run to the ground (and learn maintenance etc)...before invest in a much more expensive bike.

I'm currently between 2 at the moment.

The Mongoose listed here,
and
Diamondback Apex http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m1b38s2p1886 which was £850 down to £500.

The question is though - between the difference in cost- is there really enough worth of upgrades to justify the extra £200.

I've been favouring air forks (which the diamondback has) as I'm a bit of a porker now at 17stone.

Other than the forks, the main noticable difference is Shimano SLX parts and Quad QHD-1 Sting hydraulic brakes
banned#7
fluffy-k
Does well in the sub 400 MTB comparisons, so for 300 this is a steal. In the unlikely event you can find the 2009 at the same price go for that, as I think they reduced the spec and kept the price the same for 2010.

I can't see anything better on the 2009 bike, in fact it only has mechanical disc brakes and not hydraulic like this model, the derailleurs also look lower spec and it doesn't have remote control lock out.....,I may have misseed something though....so which parts do you think are better on the 2009?
#8
Midnight Tboy
I've been looking at this bike, amongst many others, for the past couple of weeks.

My budget forever shooting from around 250 up to 1280 for my favourite Cube Reaction CR.

However I've now decided to get a 'cheaper' bike to help lose the weight - run to the ground (and learn maintenance etc)...before invest in a much more expensive bike.

I'm currently between 2 at the moment.

The Mongoose listed here,
and
Diamondback Apex http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m1b38s2p1886 which was £850 down to £500.

The question is though - between the difference in cost- is there really enough worth of upgrades to justify the extra £200.

I've been favouring air forks (which the diamondback has) as I'm a bit of a porker now at 17stone.

Other than the forks, the main noticable difference is Shimano SLX parts and Quad QHD-1 Sting hydraulic brakes


I always thought that coil/oil shocks were better for porkies than Air shocks.

Decent deal for the bike though. I expect all the idiots who like £50 Tesco bikes will be on in a bit claiming its over priced though.
banned#9
Midnight Tboy....everything on that diamondback you posted is better than this....it's not really comparable to this deal....If you can afford it then buy it. Great forks for a bike of that price.

Forks review here

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/forks-suspension/product/tora-302-solo-10420
#10
was never worth £450 imho

for budget mtbs look at wiggle and halfords (bizarrely, the boardman range are good at £500-£1000). maybe CRC and the other big retailers.

air forks are much less important if you're heavy. i use air because i'm so light, even the lightest springs on coil forks barely move..
2 Likes #11
pfallan
Mountain Bikes are a bit old hat now imho


whaaa? o_0 ...mountain bikes are not a fashion accessory or ornamental trinket they are a tool. thats like saying light aircrafts are old hat, or spanners are old hat... Sir, i award you the internetz most worstest comment award. congratualtions you have won -10 internetz.



Edited By: spaceinvader on Sep 12, 2010 20:54: moron
#12
Midnight Tboy
I've been looking at this bike, amongst many others, for the past couple of weeks.

My budget forever shooting from around 250 up to 1280 for my favourite Cube Reaction CR.

However I've now decided to get a 'cheaper' bike to help lose the weight - run to the ground (and learn maintenance etc)...before invest in a much more expensive bike.

I'm currently between 2 at the moment.

The Mongoose listed here,
and
Diamondback Apex http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m1b38s2p1886 which was £850 down to £500.

The question is though - between the difference in cost- is there really enough worth of upgrades to justify the extra £200.

I've been favouring air forks (which the diamondback has) as I'm a bit of a porker now at 17stone.

Other than the forks, the main noticable difference is Shimano SLX parts and Quad QHD-1 Sting hydraulic brakes


The diamond back is quite a bit better. Way better shocks, Tora's perform well but weigh lots compared to the competition, Suntour forks are usually really cheap, really heavy and really bouncy but I've not seen thes particular ones in the flesh.
The DB also has a better drivetrain and better rims. Its just all a notch or two up which adds up to a nicer bike.
1 Like #13
pfallan
Its OK but nothing special.

Mountain Bikes are a bit old hat now imho


Epic fail.
#14
interesting that you said coil shocks would be better for a porkie like me.

At the time I was looking at a Focus Killer Bee - and someone suggested that the Apex may be the better choice because of it being air instead of coil. They said that the coil forks could potentially feel too soft and bottom out and probably worth buying a firmer coil spring if did opt for the coil....whereas the air forks supposedly customisable based on how high they've been pumped (Bare in mind I haven't ridden a bike properly in about 17yrs so most of it is new to me lol)

slamdunkin.....while I have no doubts its a better bike....I'm a sucker when it comes to value for money...so in my own mind trying to justify the extra £200 if its less than the sum of the part differences alone etc....or whether I should use the cheaper option as a fatburner and use the 200 maybe a year or so down the line towards a better bike.

The bike I very nearly bought was this http://www.freeflowbikes.com/cube-reaction-elixir-cr-2010---hardtail-mountain-bike-6572-p.asp which is 1500 on chainreactioncycles but only 1280 there. Cube bikes look fantastic and a boatload of high specs for the money, but during my past week of reading, I never realised that there was different 'types' of mountain bike other than rigid, HT and FS.....and that theres XC, trail, all-mountain, DH etc.

The cube probably isn't right for me as described more as a racer. I really want to a) be able to take slow leasurly rides with the 5 yr old along old traintracks etc, and bit of road use.....and also make the odd trip to Kielder and Hamsterley and do some tracks in my own time, and if I feel brave enough some very low drops (like 4foot at the v v most I'd be brave to do) so think something like these HTs may be more suitable
#15
by the way - if you're going to buy this Mongoose - buy it from their ebay store (not allowed to post links to their ebay store)....its cheaper for delivery (also quidco)
banned#16
Midnight....get yourself over to Bikeraidar and spend a few days reading a few threads from those in the know

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/index.php?c=3
#17
heh yeah thats the site I've been on the last few days where they reckoned air vs coil for me.

I'm actually between 3 bikes now

This Mongoose Tyax eliet for pure value
the Diamondback Apex for 500
and this Rockrider 5.1 for 500 http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/8-1-2010-141402412/#TAILLE which gets a v good writeup on bikeradar - but is coil tora instead of air tora...and sram x7 instead of shimano slx and Juicy 3's.

decisions decisions.......never thought buying a bike would be so hard :) Been like 2 weeks now that been looking!!! At least my budget has dropped from the 1.3k to a more sensible 500 for now :)
banned#18
why isn't the award winning Carrera Fury on your list?

I ride a kraken and it hasn't let me down yet....best sub £400 bike on the market IMO

Edited By: slamdunkin on Sep 12, 2010 21:06: .
#19
I want a decent bike but have no idea what to get really. Have bene told cross is a good idea, will mainly be uising on cycle paths, not roads, some uneven surfaces not riding down , mountains or anything.

I am big 6ft 4inch can someone with an idea recommend somthing decent sub £500, I guess light easy to use, easy to maintain idiot proof really.

Really I dont have a clue or where to look when in comes to cars I am a lion with bike I am a cowards have no idea at all dont want to buy something crap or get ripped off....
#20
reason the Fury isn't on my list......if click on Halfrauds "check stock in my local store" it finds no halfords local that have any. If I then press to find the nearest town that actually have it, it says "We are very sorry, but no UK store currently has the item you require in stock" :( Otherwise the Fury would be a top contender
#21
Midnight - I bought the Diamondback 2 weeks ago from Pauls and I'm very happy with it. Any questions feel free to ask. Bear in mind I'm no expert, I'm just starting back into MTB's after 10 years off!!! The bikes it's replaced was a steel framed full suspension Baracuda.

The other contender I was looking at was the GT Avalanche 1.0 also from Pauls. However I'm glad I got the DB, its ace!! My only gripe is purely from a cosmetic point of view, I liked the GT better than the purple Diamondback. The forks are 130mm travel (I dont think this is noted anywhere)

Also the Diamondback logo on the diagnal tube is only printed on one side. Looks a bit odd but who cares when your actually riding the thing!!

Chris.
#22
Well after reductions and 6% quidco and the £10 voucher i had my kraken for £319
#23
Raleigh AT40 on a certain auction site being sold for £270 form Rutland, cracking deal (think might be £10 delivery)
#24
hyte1. Can I ask what size you went for for the Diamondback? I haven't found a specific Diamondback sizing guide yet.

I'm a midgies under 5 11 without shoes and 32.5" leg thereabouts as good as can try to measure while bending with a tape measure :D

Some sites seem to say that sort of height a 20" would be better - but most forums etc say prob better off looking at 16 and 18". I know these sizings vary from brand to brand - but I'm figuring the 18 would probably be better
#25
spaceinvader
pfallan
Mountain Bikes are a bit old hat now imho
whaaa? o_0 ...mountain bikes are not a fashion accessory or ornamental trinket they are a tool. thats like saying light aircrafts are old hat, or spanners are old hat... Sir, i award you the internetz most worstest comment award. congratualtions you have won -10 internetz.

I'd support your post if only your use of our wonderful language wasn't so awful!
#26
REDBULL2K7
Well after reductions and 6% quidco and the £10 voucher i had my kraken for £319


your krakens only so u can chase ure staffies around the estate lol
#27
Midnight - It took me ages to decide which to go for but I got the 20" in the end. Seems to suit me fine but to be honest you will probably be ok with the 18 too. I'm also 5'11 and about the same inside leg!

There is a Diamond Back sizing chart here:http://bicyclewarehouse.com/about/diamondback-sizing-charts-pg1139.htm
Another thread on Bikerader here which I posted on: http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16421954
#28
pfallan
Its OK but nothing special.

Mountain Bikes are a bit old hat now imho


What's the Mountain Bike Replacement / Alternative then - Is there a new type of bike out ?
#29
Just bare in mind that this is a long bike, tried one and it was uncomfortable for me.
Try before you buy if you can.
#30
Midnight Tboy
reason the Fury isn't on my list......if click on Halfrauds "check stock in my local store" it finds no halfords local that have any. If I then press to find the nearest town that actually have it, it says "We are very sorry, but no UK store currently has the item you require in stock" :( Otherwise the Fury would be a top contender

Vulcan disc spec gets my vote - look at the reviews! I got one last week. My local store put the price of the V brake one on it and then I got 15% off and a £10 voucher so got a £400 bike for £225 :)
banned#31
brj080402
Midnight Tboy
reason the Fury isn't on my list......if click on Halfrauds "check stock in my local store" it finds no halfords local that have any. If I then press to find the nearest town that actually have it, it says "We are very sorry, but no UK store currently has the item you require in stock" :( Otherwise the Fury would be a top contender
Vulcan disc spec gets my vote - look at the reviews! I got one last week. My local store put the price of the V brake one on it and then I got 15% off and a £10 voucher so got a £400 bike for £225 :)

The Vulcan Disc spec was never worth £400 it's a £300 bike....you still got a bargain though at that price.
#32
slamdunkin
brj080402
Midnight Tboy
reason the Fury isn't on my list......if click on Halfrauds "check stock in my local store" it finds no halfords local that have any. If I then press to find the nearest town that actually have it, it says "We are very sorry, but no UK store currently has the item you require in stock" :( Otherwise the Fury would be a top contender
Vulcan disc spec gets my vote - look at the reviews! I got one last week. My local store put the price of the V brake one on it and then I got 15% off and a £10 voucher so got a £400 bike for £225 :)
The Vulcan Disc spec was never worth £400 it's a £300 bike....you still got a bargain though at that price.

I know there prices fluctuate and you're maybe right but good reviews and bikeradar etc see like a £500 bike the parts that are on it
#33
Midnight Tboy

Listen , don`t waste your money on these bikes, get the cube now. i know 100% you will not regret it, mountain biking is an amazing pass time, will change your life.
banned#34
Cube bikes are well known for having really bad paint...it flakes around the joints and scratches and chips on the slightest contact....shame really as they could be really good....if you do go for a cube wrap the frame in helicopter tape to protect it.
#35
slamdunkin
Cube bikes are well known for having really bad paint...it flakes around the joints and scratches and chips on the slightest contact....shame really as they could be really good....if you do go for a cube wrap the frame in helicopter tape to protect it.


Good idea could apply to all bikes if you don`t want any scratches or chips
#36
Anyone else spotted a bargain MTB for up to £500?, I'm itching to buy a new one!.
#37
Any views on how this compares with the:
specialized hardrock disc - recently on here for ? £299

??

Cheers
banned#38
foxcongo
Any views on how this compares with the: specialized hardrock disc - recently on here for ? £299??Cheers

This Mongoose has a better fork with more travel and lock out, it has 24 gears instead of 21 and sram x5 rear derailleur instead of the X4, it has hydraulic disc brakes and the spesh only has mechanical disc brakes, the wheels are double walled and not single....need I go on.

Edited By: slamdunkin on Sep 13, 2010 20:34: .
#39
foxcongo
Any views on how this compares with the:
specialized hardrock disc - recently on here for ? £299

??

Cheers


I got one of these in 2004, it's what I am looking to replace now, stil going well but I fancy a fresh one with interesting hydro brakes etc.. the hardrock was a great investment for me
#40
Is this the sweet spot then? £300?

I understand alot of entry bikes could be overpriced etc, so this isnt aimed to be a entry bike yet comparable in price? Local shops £250 bikes didnt even come with disc brakes... the rest doesnt mean much to me

Just for trying to get fit blahblah if I research I know it will take weeks and I will give up and never buy

As above its also on ebay for £10 delivery for the same people

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