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I know that this has been posted before at £299, and someone mentioned it was reduced to £249 in a thread about another laptop.

Found it today for £200 - fantastic spec for the price.

(PS Yes I know it's yet another Morrisons electrical deal - they seem to be having a stock change at the moment).
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banned#1
Spec?
#2
Be nice if you could post more details and the store!
#3
be good if you could find one will try in morn wish me luck :p
#4
Spec - Windows 7, AMD Athlon 64 (1600 I think, chucked the box out so don't know), 250gb HDD, 2gb RAM, Wireless, no bluetooth. 16.6" screen

Thats as far as my IT knowledge goes.

sabz - swindon
#5
scantyisland - good luck
#6
PS the box on the shelf was for the older e627 - i think there were two versions, a 1gb vista, and 2gb win7. The ones they actually had in stock were the new ones (well, the one i was given anyway)
#7
wish I could get one at this price
#8
It appears from the stuff with it that emachines is another brand for acer...
#9
A word of warning with E Machines, you cannot install your own version of any windows operating system so make sure the first thing you do is make some RESTORE disks as soon as you get the thing outof the box. (This is my experience from past E Machines anyway!)
banned#10
brianfj1200
A word of warning with E Machines, you cannot install your own version of any windows operating system
Why?
#11
brianfj1200
A word of warning with E Machines, you cannot install your own version of any windows operating system so make sure the first thing you do is make some RESTORE disks as soon as you get the thing outof the box. (This is my experience from past E Machines anyway!)

rubbish put on any op system and install drivers to suit
#12
just a thought but maybe it would be helpful if you mentioned the store.

Whoops really should read through the rest of the posts :(

Edited By: frankievallie on Aug 22, 2010 20:01: editing my error
#13
hate the morrisons site can never find the deal
#14
Instore only i believe
#15
Yeah it's instore only and even then it's only stores with the excess stock.
#16
good deal
#17
brianfj1200
A word of warning with E Machines, you cannot install your own version of any windows operating system so make sure the first thing you do is make some RESTORE disks as soon as you get the thing outof the box. (This is my experience from past E Machines anyway!)


Computer nooooob!
#18
brianfj1200
A word of warning with E Machines, you cannot install your own version of any windows operating system so make sure the first thing you do is make some RESTORE disks as soon as you get the thing outof the box. (This is my experience from past E Machines anyway!)

Why would you want to with Win 7 on ? (baffled)
#19
PhilK
brianfj1200
A word of warning with E Machines, you cannot install your own version of any windows operating system so make sure the first thing you do is make some RESTORE disks as soon as you get the thing outof the box. (This is my experience from past E Machines anyway!)
Why would you want to with Win 7 on ? (baffled)

Not all models come with 7, the first batch of excess stock were shipped with vista home premium, so it's a hit or miss with what OS you might get...

Edited By: fruman23 on Aug 22, 2010 22:25: Info
#20
brianfj1200
A word of warning with E Machines, you cannot install your own version of any windows operating system so make sure the first thing you do is make some RESTORE disks as soon as you get the thing outof the box. (This is my experience from past E Machines anyway!)

Nonsense.
#21
I know a thing or two with computers and all that and the mere suggestion that such a thing could be true is like saying the sun won't come up tomorrow.

I'm more interested to hear what exactly you tried to do to install a new OS.

It's pretty darn simple booting from a CD\external USB etc, sure you might need the correct drivers to recognise the chipset etc but that's pretty normal.
#22
Some HP business PC's( 8-9 years ago) had bois configurations that would only let you install the operating system that came with it. They had dip switches on the motherboard to bypass this though. Was a headache trying to upgrade 30 PC's from win 2000 to xp, untill someone read the manual!!!
#23
brianfj1200
A word of warning with E Machines, you cannot install your own version of any windows operating system so make sure the first thing you do is make some RESTORE disks as soon as you get the thing outof the box. (This is my experience from past E Machines anyway!)

LOL
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scousemicky
Some HP business PC's( 8-9 years ago) had bois configurations that would only let you install the operating system that came with it. They had dip switches on the motherboard to bypass this though. Was a headache trying to upgrade 30 PC's from win 2000 to xp, untill someone read the manual!!!

Thanks for posting that, pretty interesting if true. Still find it hard to believe are you sure it's not just a jumper that's set to prevent accessing the BIOS to enable booting from anything except the primary hard drive. Just seems impossible to implement...anyways I'll be quiet :)
#25
Jumpers, dip switches...same thing really. They defo booted from cd, then an error message appeared at some stage, can't remember. They were Vectra VL,s, can't remember much more except that we were cursing HP! lol. Around the same time Dell were using non standard power supplies, so when people came to replace and upgrade thier motherboards.....boom! lol
#26
eMachines are not up there with the likes of Asus and Samsung ....... they are cheaply made and prone to breakdown. ...... personally I would pay a bit more and get a decent make, as this isn't that cheap.
#27
Its called SLP (system-Locked Preinstallation) or some times SLIC, its code stored into the BIOS and restricts what discs you can use to those from the system maker, its becoming quite popular so make those backup discs, there are ways around it but it'll be a pain in the **** for the non technical, though sayimg that I managed to talk my brother around it on his PC World machine.

I bought one of these 627s unfortunately mine is the 1gb Vista model but hey it runs lovely (would recommend popping another 2Gb in, its cheap to do and 3Gb allows Windows to preload a lot of stuff improving usability no end, this is so much faster than the Atom based rubbish it has replaced.

Build quality is not the best I agree but what you get for your dough is great.

Edited By: adhsmith on Aug 22, 2010 23:49: comment on build quality
#28
The one in the cabinet at Queensbury Morrison is the older 1gb, 160gb, Vista model. If I knew they had the posted model, I would have bought one!
#29
adhsmith
Its called SLP (system-Locked Preinstallation) or some times SLIC, its code stored into the BIOS and restricts what discs you can use to those from the system maker, its becoming quite popular so make those backup discs, there are ways around it but it'll be a pain in the **** for the non technical, though sayimg that I managed to talk my brother around it on his PC World machine.I bought one of these 627s unfortunately mine is the 1gb Vista model but hey it runs lovely (would recommend popping another 2Gb in, its cheap to do and 3Gb allows Windows to preload a lot of stuff improving usability no end, this is so much faster than the Atom based rubbish it has replaced.Build quality is not the best I agree but what you get for your dough is great.

SLP is different. SLP allows preactivation of certain OEM Operating Systems and does not restrict the installation of another OS. Consequently, there is no requirement for circumvention of SLP since retail copies of Windows does NOT check for the identification string in the BIOS. I'm not sure what you achieved for your brother but retail Windows will install. Modifying the ID string of the BIOS would render the original OEM Windows provided with the machine to be unable to be activated.

I agree with Robo989 in that there are no issues with Windows installations, albeit chipset drivers are NOT required to boot up a Windows installation - actually no drivers are required because there is no OS in the first place!

Edited By: ElliottC on Aug 23, 2010 00:11: .
#30
from what i know about Emachines they have a OS bios/boot lock that detects if you alter the spec of the machine or try to change the copy of Windows you want to install. it means you get an error message be if you use any other discs other than the recovery disc supplied or made from the PC/Laptop that stops the boot process and tells you to get in touch with the manufacturer.

thats the reason you cant change the OS and need to use the OS supplied.
#31
joffa81
from what i know about Emachines they have a OS bios/boot lock that detects if you alter the spec of the machine or try to change the copy of Windows you want to install. it means you get an error message be if you use any other discs other than the recovery disc supplied or made from the PC/Laptop that stops the boot process and tells you to get in touch with the manufacturer. thats the reason you cant change the OS and need to use the OS supplied.

All OEM versions of Windows registers the machine with Microsoft based on ID strings within the BIOS and other hardware. Change in hardware will cause the OS to be deactivated as this breaks the license agreement of OEM Windows.

Installation of a new retail OS is fine - I have performed this task many times. Installation of OEM Windows downloaded from BitTorrent sites may fail because some machines using SLP will not activate with certain OEM Windows Operating Systems and this may be where the issue lies.
#32
nice deal but i personally dont like emachine. its an acer sister company but the quality is more cheaper than acer. i would spend 200 more to buy toshiba or dell. nice for the ppl who cant afford to spend more money on their laptops but suggest it a hot deal anyways.
#33
ElliottC
joffa81
from what i know about Emachines they have a OS bios/boot lock that detects if you alter the spec of the machine or try to change the copy of Windows you want to install. it means you get an error message be if you use any other discs other than the recovery disc supplied or made from the PC/Laptop that stops the boot process and tells you to get in touch with the manufacturer. thats the reason you cant change the OS and need to use the OS supplied.
All OEM versions of Windows registers the machine with Microsoft based on ID strings within the BIOS and other hardware. Change in hardware will cause the OS to be deactivated as this breaks the license agreement of OEM Windows.Installation of a new retail OS is fine - I have performed this task many times. Installation of OEM Windows downloaded from BitTorrent sites may fail because some machines using SLP will not activate with certain OEM Windows Operating Systems and this may be where the issue lies.

yea i know that but Emachines have another pre boot lock that stops you using any other OS disc but the one assigned to the computer and also detects if you alter the hardware configuration and again you will get a boot error.
its not the bios as such but a pre boot lock that is to a spacific configuration and if anything is detected as wrong they you just get a black screen with "OS/Config error contact manufacturer".

from what ive played with there is a firmware chip that is linked to the recovery partition/disc, OS SLIC and configuration and a soon as you alter any of the above the chip detects the change and locks the motherboard and only Emachines can unlock/delete the lock out.

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