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Use Supersaver delivery (Citylink so unaffected by Royal Mail dispute) for this price, good spec card for a good price.


Performance

Graphics Bus Technology: PCI Express * Memory Amount: 256MB * Memory Interface: 128-bit * Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec): 22.4 * Fill Rate (Billion pixels/sec): 8.64 * RAMDACs (MHz): 400 * Core Clock: 540MHz * Memory Clock: 1400MHz * Dual-link DVI Support * HDTV Support * TV-out + Dual DVI Connectors * Heat-Pipe Cooling Solution
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#1
In-depth review here:

http://www.cpu3d.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1271&Itemid=2&limit=1

Verdict and Conclusion

The MSI NX8600GT performed well, it gave a decent score, but when it came to HDR processing it showed it's weakness, this is no surprise because it uses only 256MB of DDR3 memory. The heat pipe cooling unit was quite impressive and it really did its job, however, the heatsink did not help cool the RAM chips and due to the size of the array of fins, there might be some physical restrictions to install on certain motherboards.

This VGA card is aimed at the performance and mid-range market, the configuration of the NX8600GT allows it to be used in two possible systems, gaming systems and also HTPC systems due to its compact and noiseless design. Another plus point is that the NX8600GT utilises MSI's DOT feature which allows the user to overclock the VGA card, and it even has some preset overclocking configurations where one can up its performance safely by nearly 10%.

Current prices on this card is approximately £85-95.00 which is 3 times cheaper than most high-end cards. This makes it a very attractive and affordable solution for the modest gamer. The MSI NX8600GT definitely offers the best bang for the buck. We expect to see a lot of these on the shelves ... real soon.

The Final Verdict

Good performance at bargain price. The NX8600GT uses the latest NVIDIA G84 GPU and offers silent heat-pipe cooling with NO fans. What's more, there's even room for improvement in terms of performance through a little overclocking.
#2
Good price for this item, voted ++
#3
I bought this card about a couple of weeks ago for about £68 from eBuyer so I vote this hot.

Anyway the Card is a very tight fit, and may touch your heat sink so if you was going for this card I'd suggest opening your PC and checking if there's enough room.
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Just so people know this card is not HDCP compatible. So playing Bluray or HDDVD that require HDCP is a no-no.

Ben
#5
Had this installed in a PC for a few months now, runs absolutely silent in my living room. I paid about £85 for it and thought it a real bargain.
#6
Good price. Do you guys know, what sort of a difference I can expect coming for a 7300GT? I don't play games very much, but I wonder how much of a leap in performance in those would I get coming from the 7300GT to this?
#7
ordered mine, cancelled the amazon one, heat to rep, can anyone give me a ruff idea, to overclock these too, and what software to use, thanks:thumbsup:
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BennyUK
Just so people know this card is not HDCP compatible. So playing Bluray or HDDVD that require HDCP is a no-no.

Ben


The GeForce 8600GT and 8500GT graphics processing units (GPUs) do not contain HDCP keys as standard, however manufacturers can add chips to their cards to do this.

Using a Sony BWU-100A Blu-ray drive and HDCP enabled display, we ascertained that MSI's NX8600GT-T2D256E-OC is not HDCP enabled and the system failed to playback a Blu-ray movie.

This means it's not ideal for playing back high definition content, although by installing AnyDVD HD, the card will bypass ACSS encryption and we found the card was very capable at outputting 1080p content through the DVI ports.

http://www.pcw.co.uk/personal-computer-world/hardware/2187946/msi-nx8600gt-t2d256e-oc

:thumbsup:
#9
luckveer
The GeForce 8600GT and 8500GT graphics processing units (GPUs) do not contain HDCP keys as standard, however manufacturers can add chips to their cards to do this.

Using a Sony BWU-100A Blu-ray drive and HDCP enabled display, we ascertained that MSI's NX8600GT-T2D256E-OC is not HDCP enabled and the system failed to playback a Blu-ray movie.

This means it's not ideal for playing back high definition content, although by installing AnyDVD HD, the card will bypass ACSS encryption and we found the card was very capable at outputting 1080p content through the DVI ports.

http://www.pcw.co.uk/personal-computer-world/hardware/2187946/msi-nx8600gt-t2d256e-oc

:thumbsup:



Useful info,always good when people answer queries to let people make the right decision, have some rep! :-D
#10
just got my card, threw it in and overclocked it with ntune. no glitches, runs beautifully, yet to hammer it with bioshock on dx10 ;-P

Great value for money and it fitted my gigabyte board with room to spare.

Beware, 5 mins to fit, all night to reinstall my pc from xp to vista. Vista forceware is fine and really stable. You do get a bit sick of answering yes, i trust this program. I wouldnt have opened the folder and double clicked on setup exe if i didnt. stupid software..
#11
luckveer
ordered mine, cancelled the amazon one, heat to rep, can anyone give me a ruff idea, to overclock these too, and what software to use, thanks:thumbsup:


As bizw0z says, use 'ntune' which will be on the driver disc that comes with the card, this will let you overclock and check if your overclocks are stable or not.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/sysutility.html
#12
Its a good card to install in a HTPC since its silent.
#13
bizw0z
just got my card, threw it in and overclocked it with ntune. no glitches, runs beautifully, yet to hammer it with bioshock on dx10 ;-P

Great value for money and it fitted my gigabyte board with room to spare.

Beware, 5 mins to fit, all night to reinstall my pc from xp to vista. Vista forceware is fine and really stable. You do get a bit sick of answering yes, i trust this program. I wouldnt have opened the folder and double clicked on setup exe if i didnt. stupid software..


There is an option in the security settings of Vista to turn this annoying thing off...I did! However then you get a security warning in the system tray every time you log on!!!! Still, its better than asking you if you want to run a program everytime.
#14
theyiddo
There is an option in the security settings of Vista to turn this annoying thing off...I did! However then you get a security warning in the system tray every time you log on!!!! Still, its better than asking you if you want to run a program everytime.


You can turn that off to - go to control panel - security. On the left hand window pane, select 'Change the way Security Centre alerts me'. I've selected 'Don't notify me and don't display the icon'. Job done! :thumbsup:
#15
Pontiac
Good price. Do you guys know, what sort of a difference I can expect coming for a 7300GT? I don't play games very much, but I wonder how much of a leap in performance in those would I get coming from the 7300GT to this?
Easily over double the speed of your current card - this thing is between a 7600GT and a 7900GS
#16
This one is actually better value at [SIZE=4]£47.99[/SIZE] :
Xpertvision 8500GT Sonic edition 256MB 128bit DDR3 DVI TVO PCI-E

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/128084

I bought one, it arrived yesterday. The core is set to 600 and the memory clock is at 1200 - which will give better performance than other 8500 models as the memory on this card is DDR3, not DDR2. And it's HDCP ready, according to the box. Also, the one they sent me is silent (huge heatsink, no fan), unlike the one in the picture.


#17
does anyone know what card performs about the same as an xbox 360? probly gnna sell mine and was just wondering.
#18
calibrax
This one is actually better value at [SIZE=4]£47.99[/SIZE] :
Xpertvision 8500GT Sonic edition 256MB 128bit DDR3 DVI TVO PCI-E

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/128084

I bought one, it arrived yesterday. The core is set to 600 and the memory clock is at 1200 - which will give better performance than other 8500 models as the memory on this card is DDR3, not DDR2. And it's HDCP ready, according to the box. Also, the one they sent me is silent (huge heatsink, no fan), unlike the one in the picture.



Except it's an 8500, not an 8600. I would say the jump between them is worth quite a bit more than £17.
#19
cold toast
does anyone know what card performs about the same as an xbox 360? probly gnna sell mine and was just wondering.
No way of comparing - usually 360 games are very well optimised and look quite decent, but you get lazy devs who make stuff look sh*t.
calibrax
This one is actually better value at [SIZE=4]£47.99[/SIZE] :
Xpertvision 8500GT Sonic edition 256MB 128bit DDR3 DVI TVO PCI-E

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/128084

I bought one, it arrived yesterday. The core is set to 600 and the memory clock is at 1200 - which will give better performance than other 8500 models as the memory on this card is DDR3, not DDR2. And it's HDCP ready, according to the box. Also, the one they sent me is silent (huge heatsink, no fan), unlike the one in the picture.


Not really - the 8500GT is half the speed, and the core being overclocked makes very little diffence because of how slow it is...
#20
Jakg
Not really - the 8500GT is half the speed, and the core being overclocked makes very little diffence because of how slow it is...

Half the speed? where do you get that idea? the core on the 8500GT Sonic is actually higher speed than the 8600 core...
#21
calibrax
This one is actually better value at [SIZE=4]£47.99[/SIZE] :
Xpertvision 8500GT Sonic edition 256MB 128bit DDR3 DVI TVO PCI-E

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/128084

I bought one, it arrived yesterday. The core is set to 600 and the memory clock is at 1200 - which will give better performance than other 8500 models as the memory on this card is DDR3, not DDR2. And it's HDCP ready, according to the box. Also, the one they sent me is silent (huge heatsink, no fan), unlike the one in the picture.





You seem damn lucky to get a non fan version of that card, as no-one else did. Not worth the gamble over this deal I'm afraid if you're for a silent card.

Question about this 8600GT, anyone fitted this actual card into a Dell Inspiron or Vostro desktop? As I'm not sure as it will fit as these are small cases and it has such a huge heatsink apparently.
#22
calibrax
Half the speed? where do you get that idea? the core on the 8500GT Sonic is actually higher speed than the 8600 core...


Completely irrelevant, here is simply one of the many benchmarks available on the web that show the 8600 about 50-80% faster than the 8500.

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Mainstream_Graphics_Arena%3A_The_Launch_of_the_Geforce_8600_and_8500_series/4902-10.html#Scene_1

So, buying a 8500 for a mere £17 less is a bit of a mistake, actually no, it's a criminal misuse of money.
#23
clowny666
Completely irrelevant, here is simply one of the many benchmarks available on the web that show the 8600 about 50-80% faster than the 8500.

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Mainstream_Graphics_Arena%3A_The_Launch_of_the_Geforce_8600_and_8500_series/4902-10.html#Scene_1

So, buying a 8500 for a mere £17 less is a bit of a mistake, actually no, it's a criminal misuse of money.


I agree, GF8500 is a waste of money for sure!
#24
calibrax
Half the speed? where do you get that idea? the core on the 8500GT Sonic is actually higher speed than the 8600 core...
My 9600XT was 500 MHz core, my old 6600GT was 500 MHz Core, and yet this new 7950GT is 580 MHz core - and yet this card is easily 4x faster than my old 9600...
#25
calibrax
Half the speed? where do you get that idea? the core on the 8500GT Sonic is actually higher speed than the 8600 core...


Its because it only has 16 stream processors compared to the 32 on the 8600GT.

So in theory, youd have to have double the clock speed of the 8600GT to match its performance.

Also, £65 for a 8600gt isnt that special.

I will also warn that overclocking a card with no fan such as this is unwise. Even something like the fatality card with a very fancy heatsink is no match for a simple fan. The lack of HDCP also makes it a bit pointless for a HTPC. The 2600xt available at ebuyer for ~£60 is better value.
#26
In the real world this card is slower than a 7600gt let alone a 7900gs it will struggle with most new games it will barely play a DX10 game its a budget card and i would avoid it you wont see that much difference with the 7300gt and in a DX9 game i would dout if its any better than a good 7300gt

This has no fan so overclocking will cause this card to heat up quickly if you do your homework you will see that people think this is a slow card and not worth having i cant belive someone said this is as fast as a 7900gs do you know anything about computers.

this card was cheap when it came out and is still dropping in price a 7600gt was and still is more expensive. look at this link they are all like this.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/817519.html
#27
clowny666
Completely irrelevant, here is simply one of the many benchmarks available on the web that show the 8600 about 50-80% faster than the 8500.

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Mainstream_Graphics_Arena%3A_The_Launch_of_the_Geforce_8600_and_8500_series/4902-10.html#Scene_1

So, buying a 8500 for a mere £17 less is a bit of a mistake, actually no, it's a criminal misuse of money.


But the one I'm talking about is an 8500GT Sonic not a standard 8500GT. It has DDR3 (not DDR2 like the standard 8500GT) and runs at higher clock speeds than the standard 8500GT. So the difference is nothing like as much as you are saying.
#28
If you want a rough idea of how a 8600GT compares to a 8500 Sonic see here.

http://sgoverclockers.com/modules.php?name=Reviews&rop=showcontent&id=63

Also all the info I can find for this card suggests it has GDDR3 memory so not sure where the GDDR2 argument comes from.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/126985/show_product_specifications
#29
Can anyone tell me if this is better than a Radeon X1950 Pro? I was going to buy an X1950 Pro, but this 8600GT is DX10... What do people think??? Which will last longest in performance?
#30
Pontiac
You seem damn lucky to get a non fan version of that card, as no-one else did. Not worth the gamble over this deal I'm afraid if you're for a silent card.

Question about this 8600GT, anyone fitted this actual card into a Dell Inspiron or Vostro desktop? As I'm not sure as it will fit as these are small cases and it has such a huge heatsink apparently.


I managed to get my Dimension E520 to run a 7800GT and thats quite a large card dunno if it helps or not.
#31
no match for the radieon 1950pro
#32
Pontiac

Question about this 8600GT, anyone fitted this actual card into a Dell Inspiron or Vostro desktop? As I'm not sure as it will fit as these are small cases and it has such a huge heatsink apparently.

It fits in my OEM Advent T9308 PC fine which is MicroATX. A very tight squeeze nearly touching chipset, and if I wanted to take anything out like RAM I'll have to take away the Graphics card.
#33
Pontiac
You seem damn lucky to get a non fan version of that card, as no-one else did. Not worth the gamble over this deal I'm afraid if you're for a silent card.

Question about this 8600GT, anyone fitted this actual card into a Dell Inspiron or Vostro desktop? As I'm not sure as it will fit as these are small cases and it has such a huge heatsink apparently.


I fit it into my Dell Vostro 200 mini tower. No problem at all. Don't know whether this helps.:whistling:
#34
polly69
no match for the radieon 1950pro

Yes this may well be hte case for Dx9 games etc. but looking forward with Dx10 this card should offer good value for money - scores best on price/performance comparison at Toms Hardware :
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/09/directx_10_shootout/page9.html
.... although yes it will suffer with top end games but if you want those at good quality don't be shopping with £65 for a graphics card!
#35
has anyone tried the volt mod on this card? apparently you get really good overclocking results, in my dell case its averaging 55c, on non-load, is this normal?, whats the recommended overclock spec on this card, im using ATITOOL.:thumbsup:
#36
luckveer
has anyone tried the volt mod on this card? apparently you get really good overclocking results, in my dell case its averaging 55c, on non-load, is this normal?, whats the recommended overclock spec on this card, im using ATITOOL.:thumbsup:


Anyone?

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