Muddyfox Vortex 26in Dual Disc Dual Suspension Alloy Bike £99.89 @ Argos - HotUKDeals
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* Red/black alloy frame.

* Y-frame style.

* 18 Shimano twist grip.

* Front and rear disc brakes.

* Muddyfox saddle.

* Frame size 18in (46cm).

* Wheel size 26 in (66cm).

* Suitable for leg measurements 74 to 89cm.

* For ages 14 years and over.

* Weight 18kg.

* Accessories; bell.

* Some assembly required - fit front wheel, saddle, pedals, handlebars and align brakes (tools and instructions included).
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#2
http://www.argos.co.uk/wcsstore/argos/images/129-3322314bA72UC590592X.jpg

Bargain, don't like the dual-suspension so.

Tanks for sharing!
#3
Dont forget quidco 1.5%
#4
bought one 2 weeks ago for my son, nice bike for price
#5
can anyone advise if this is worth the purchase for a 6ft 2 bloke? cheers
#6
Firemountain;8156263
can anyone advise if this is worth the purchase for a 6ft 2 bloke? cheers

frame will be a bit small. I would say you need a 21" frame. Although this says OK upto 35" leg.
#7
18 kg - 39.6 lbs - cold deal

Add an extra 2.5 stone onto your own body weight for pushing up hills, cheap bike, cheap components, redundant suspension adding far extra weight.

Not worth spending anything less than around £8-900 on a full suspension bike, with lighter frames and components.

Save your £100, if you cannot afford more, buy a decent second hand front suspension bike, if you can afford to save, add another £100, possibly £200 and buy yourself a far more decent brand new front suspension bike of considerable better quality.

Muddy Fox are not the same company now that they were in the 80s and early 90s, they are now owned by Universal Cycles which concentrate on catalogue sales.
#8
Firemountain
can anyone advise if this is worth the purchase for a 6ft 2 bloke? cheers


Depending on your inside leg size, you would need around 20 or 21" frame.

I would not recommend this bike however. Fancy adding 2.5 stone of weight up hills?
#9
what a piece of sh&t.

If you want a bike save up and buy something proper.

If you're 'off-roading' on this then your safety relies on the ability of plastic brakes to slow down a big lump of iron + rider.

Ditto cycling on the road but expect to be going so slowly you'll be continually overtaken by old ladies on step-through shopping bikes.

More likely this will end up in the garden over the winter & in the dump by spring.
#10
I remember about 20 years or so ago when Muddy Fox was a bit of a must have brand. Now it's just another cheapo bargain brand.
1 Like #11
sorry for the rant ^^

If you buy a TV at the bottom of the market and it breaks you just get another TV.

If you buy a bike at the bottom of the market, at best it puts you off cycling at worst it puts you in personal danger.
#12
craker
sorry for the rant ^^

If you buy a TV at the bottom of the market and it breaks you just get another TV.

If you buy a bike at the bottom of the market, at best it puts you off cycling at worst it puts you in personal danger.


Totally agree. Worse thing you can do is buy a poor quality bike.
#13
cicobuff
18 kg - 39.6 lbs - cold deal

Add an extra 2.5 stone onto your own body weight for pushing up hills, cheap bike, cheap components, redundant suspension adding far extra weight.

Not worth spending anything less than around £8-900 on a full suspension bike, with lighter frames and components.

Save your £100, if you cannot afford more, buy a decent second hand front suspension bike, if you can afford to save, add another £100, possibly £200 and buy yourself a far more decent brand new front suspension bike of considerable better quality.

Muddy Fox are not the same company now that they were in the 80s and early 90s, they are now owned by Universal Cycles which concentrate on catalogue sales.


You can't compare it to £800-900.

Likewise it is fine saying save the £100 and add another £100-200 but that is doubling/tripling the price! That is like saying well I've got £500 for a new TV, then saying well save up until you have £1000-1500...

However, I do agree that a front suspension bike or even a hard forked bike would be best, and for a new bike which has full suspension you should be spending £300-400 minimum.
#14
As if you need to spend £800 for a quality bike.
#15
I had one of the first muddy fox bikes, it was white it, cost my dad £300 and it was top of the range for its time in the MTB infancy 22 years ago, shame its name is used to pedal cheap junk like this.

I mean its crap at offroad, you are more likely to get hurt for anything serious. And its crap on road as well, really for most roads you do not need dual suspension, expecially at the rear, it will just suck up your pedal energy rapidly.

D.
#16
worst bike ever
#17
If your not going to at least spend the best part of a grand forget about dual suspension.
#18
Interesting, bike-shaped object. Wouldn't like to ride it though, it's sh!te.
#19
awoodhall2003
You can't compare it to £800-900.

Likewise it is fine saying save the £100 and add another £100-200 but that is doubling/tripling the price! That is like saying well I've got £500 for a new TV, then saying well save up until you have £1000-1500...

However, I do agree that a front suspension bike or even a hard forked bike would be best, and for a new bike which has full suspension you should be spending £300-400 minimum.


I think you are missing the point of my post, people can waste their money all they like, I am just stating the facts that for a decent quality bike that would be lighter, if those can afford it they should consider doubling or tripling the price for a better investment, those that cannot should consider buying second hand.

There are those that won't take either of these advices and just buy this £100 clunker. I|t's up to them, you know yourself a minimum of £2-300 is needed for an entry level front suspension bike of a fair caliber.

I think the anology is totally different than a TV, a budget brand OEM TV would not have the same scaling technology as a "big brand" TV thus whilst picture quality would be perfectly watchable, build quality and scaling enhancements wouldn't be apparant.

This bike is inadequate full stop, both on a component and weight aspect, even as a kids first bike it wouldn't reap any rewards in any pleasure of riding,
#20
dapunk
I had one of the first muddy fox bikes, it was white it, cost my dad £300 and it was top of the range for its time in the MTB infancy 22 years ago, shame its name is used to pedal cheap junk like this.

I mean its crap at offroad, you are more likely to get hurt for anything serious. And its crap on road as well, really for most roads you do not need dual suspension, expecially at the rear, it will just suck up your pedal energy rapidly.

D.


You probably had one of the first Muddy Fox Courier Comp bikes, as I said Universal Cycles have taken over Muddy Fox and now just stamp the name on Catalogue bike fodder.
#21
Mikey1610
As if you need to spend £800 for a quality bike.


You don't, you would need to spend at least £800 on a quality full suspension bike, and you would need to spend at least £2-300 on a quality front suspension bike, at a new RRP.

Don't try and kid yourself that a £100 full suspension bike weighing 2.5 stone with cheap components is anything quality.
#22
Dangerous, heavy piece of bike shaped metal.

These things really should be illegal. They help no one but the retailer flogging them.

Most likely it will be bought by someone unfit who will find it too heavy and slow to use, leave it outside and then dump it. Bad value and bad for the environment.

Far better to buy a £100 second hand bike from a proper brand.
#23
chipper
If your not going to at least spend the best part of a grand forget about dual suspension.


Sadly, some people here disagree with logic
#24
Golaboots888
Dangerous, heavy piece of bike shaped metal.

These things really should be illegal. They help no one but the retailer flogging them.

Most likely it will be bought by someone unfit who will find it too heavy and slow to use, leave it outside and then dump it. Bad value and bad for the environment.

Far better to buy a £100 second hand bike from a proper brand.


Exactly, a retro Muddy Fox second hand from Ebay from 1992 for £100 would be far lighter and better specced than this lump of cack.
#25
My father bought one of these last week to keep at the caravan. I set it up, What I will say is you certainly get what you pay for. It is heavy, the shifters are not very good at all, even after adjusting them, also found the front disc brake was slightly warped so it's impossible to set the brake without them rubbing. The ride position is truely awful due to the stem and seat, bloody **** was killing after 5 mins. I tried to tell him he'd have been better off with buying a 100 pound second hand rigid bike. But, as he told me, the bike is fine for pootling to stratford, no hills, and that's all he wanted it for. As regards to weight, his reply was 'help me shift a few pounds' :D

Oh and btw there is no quick release on anything, neither the wheels or the seat post.

The bike is poor, but for folks using it literally to pootle now and again, it's adequate.
#26
Still think it wont last a year before you'd have to throw it away because replacing a part at a time would cost way too much. Save yourself the hassle and wait until Sept/October when bike shops are trying to offload this years model to make space for next years. Some hot deals...
#27
Get ur self a good old raleigh bomber off the bay ! and forget about this crud !:thumbsup:
#28
Ok so lets turn this discussion around a little. What bike do you recommend for £100-£200? Front suspension if possible
1 Like #29
marcosdjcm
Ok so lets turn this discussion around a little. What bike do you recommend for £100-£200? Front suspension if possible


Impossible to buy a very good one new, unless you find a 50% off deal on a £300 Mountain Bike.

The maximum end of your £200 budget would buy you a decent shimano specced front suspension Mountain Bike from Decathlon with a 5 year frame and 2 years parts warranty, along with it being set up for you instore by a bike mechanic to ensure road safety, and a free 3 month parts maintenance check (which most decent bike shops provide) Weighing in at 30 pounds, its considerably lighter than this one (however spend a little more and you would get a better bike of around 27 pounds)

Here

http://www.decathlon.co.uk/products-pictures/asset_15170512.jpg

However if you shopped around, you may drop lucky in certain bike shops to buy a last season bike by a manufacturer that was £300 reduced to something like £200 that may have better than OEM front suspension.
#30
Sorry but cold - Muddy Fox used to be a respected bike brand - now just cheap rubbish
#31
From as little as around ...1? positive comment about this bike, it sure enough got more than double enough heat to get hot :P
#32
ehpablo
From as little as around ...1? positive comment about this bike, it sure enough got more than double enough heat to get hot :P


Which sadly proves most people just listen to price over reason!
#33
Much better to spend an extra £50 and get a decent one.
#34
piece of crap. for a hundred notes find a second hand 10 year old rigid MTB bike in gumtree or similar. you can get a great runabout/commuter/fitness bike for under a ton. but this is not it!
#35
If anyone wants a bike for £99.99 with a years warrenty and decent reviews (by people who actually own the bike) that they can order now get this:

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3322314.htm?storeId=10001&referredURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.argos.co.uk%2Fstatic%2FProduct%2FpartNumber%2F3322314.htm&jspStoreDir=argos&_%24ja=tsid%3A11674%7Cprd%3A1546795&referrer=COJUN&com.ibm.commerce.context.experiment.ExperimentContext=com.ibm.commerce.context.experimentimpl.ExperimentContextImpl%404b26c546&cmpid=COJUN

But if not you can spend hours trawling ebay for a "good" second hand bike. Better yet pm one of the bike experts on this site and they can help you.
#36
cicobuff
Impossible to buy a very good one new, unless you find a 50% off deal on a £300 Mountain Bike.

The maximum end of your £200 budget would buy you a decent shimano specced front suspension Mountain Bike from Decathlon with a 5 year frame and 2 years parts warranty, along with it being set up for you instore by a bike mechanic to ensure road safety, and a free 3 month parts maintenance check (which most decent bike shops provide) Weighing in at 30 pounds, its considerably lighter than this one (however spend a little more and you would get a better bike of around 27 pounds)

Here

http://www.decathlon.co.uk/products-pictures/asset_15170512.jpg

However if you shopped around, you may drop lucky in certain bike shops to buy a last season bike by a manufacturer that was £300 reduced to something like £200 that may have better than OEM front suspension.


God knows how I made it through my childhood with just my Raleigh Burner, setup by my dad btw, which is probably still going now, and which I won many races on ? Is it just me or is the world full of experts nowadays ? :whistling:
#37
Soulreape
God knows how I made it through my childhood with just my Raleigh Burner, setup by my dad btw, which is probably still going now, and which I won many races on ? Is it just me or is the world full of experts nowadays ? :whistling:


I think you will find its full of reports such as on a consumer program with Dom Littlewood just a couple of months ago, when he got a team of novices to assemble these online catalogue bikes and then get them assessed by bike shop mechanics, the results were shockingly bad, and many even dangerous to be out on the road on.

What narks me is myself and many others on here, giving good advice only to find sarcastic people like yourself challenging the fact.

Do you think we do it because we are bike snobs? Do you think we do it because we want to feel superior?

I am glad your Raleigh Burner was great and setup by your Dad and provided years of service, thing is Raleigh bikes adorned a certain kite mark back in the day. Also I can assume your Dad had the necessary skills to ensure you rode your bike safely.

Same cannot be said for the majority of online cheap bikes like this, shoddy components, shoddy instructions and reliant on the customer (unless they take it to a bike shop) to set up.

I personally couldn't care less where people throw their money away to, I do however like to offer advice against firstly the quality of such a purchase, and secondly and most importantly, against the dangers of riding such a purchase.

If people want to waste their money on this, fine, but why should others try to attempt to make those that rationalise and vote a lump of cack cold feel as if we are doing wrong?

If you read my post which you have quoted, it was in helpful reply to someone that wanted someone to suggest a bike for £200, I did, one that has a five year frame warranty, one that has many more branded components, one that is 3/4 the weight of this clunker, one that is setup by a bike mechanic, and one which would be 3 month service maintained, as any decent bike shop would also do free of charge, if anyone was to take the sensible routes of bike purchasing.
#38
It's a good job Argos have a great returns policy because this bike is a dog. I got one for £149 last October thinking I had a bargain. Within 2 fairly easy rides the bearings in the back wheel were going. I sent it back and spent £50 doing up my 15 year old mountain bike instead. Much better deal and so much easier to ride.

Muddy Fox, hang your head in shame, this product belongs in a scrap yard/
#40
The box is stamped with 'manufactured to british and european standards', so I assume there is some sort of quality control, also there is a sticker on the stem telling the user 'no jumping or stunting' so I also assume the manufacturers recognise that this bike really is for gentle riding lol.

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