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SEAT LEON 2.0TSi CUPRA 300 2yr Lease (10k miles p/a) £6,844.85 @ National Vehicle Solutions £6,844.85

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I'm ready to be flamed by the leasing deal haters, but this seems like a pretty good offer for 20k miles in a well regarded hot hatch. Prices below include VAT. 1 x £2400 +23 x £182.82 +Admin Fee £2… Read More
I'm ready to be flamed by the leasing deal haters, but this seems like a pretty good offer for 20k miles in a well regarded hot hatch. Prices below include VAT. 1 x £2400 +23 x £182.82 +Admin Fee £2…
buzzlightyear Avatar5d, 3h agoFound 5 days, 3 hours ago80 Comments
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TomScrut
So the R is better on juice with a DSG?

He had said "the Scirocco" not the R. But yes, (on official mpg which aren't to be trusted) the DSG R is marginally more fuel efficient.
DeafCassette
"Leasing typically costs you more than an equivalent loan, in part because of higher finance charges.Once you’re in the leasing habit, monthly payments go on forever. In contrast, the longer you keep a vehicle after a loan is paid off, the more value you get out of it.You have a limited number of miles in your lease contract, typically 12,000 to 15,000 miles a year. If you drive more than that, you’ll have to pay an excess mileage penalty of 10 cents to as much as 25 cents for every additional mile. On the other hand, if you drive too little, you don’t get credit for the unused miles.You must maintain the vehicle in good condition, or you’ll have to pay excess wear-and-tear charges when you turn it in. So, if your kids are apt to turn the interior into a finger-painting studio or your car’s a magnet for parking lot dents and dings, be prepared to pay extra.If you need to get out of a lease before it expires, you may be stuck with thousands of dollars in early-termination fees and penalties—all due at once. This could equal the amount it would cost had you stuck with the lease for its entire term.You aren’t allowed to customize your vehicle in any permanent way."It's a NO from me


I did the maths, and it gives me a big saving given my circumstances from buying new, I have a 6 mile journey on traffic free roads :-))))) At the end of the term I can give up the car, I'm not then lumbered with an expensive car that i'll have to part ex again or struggle to sell privately. Hence for me it makes sense.

Never thought I'd ever have a new car let alone something like this!! Always had older hot hatch's / performance cars (Fiat coupe turbo / Focus ST / Mk11 Gti 16v / Clio RS etc) and after expenses on these - clutch's, turbo's, broken oil pipes, new ecu's etc....the list goes on (this is the trouble with older cars if you drive them hard), this deal is costing me no more.

Mind you just looked at the front tyres.....oops, maybe need to factor that into the monthly cost!!.....
b33r
By the very fact you've already said "an old run around" this deal probably isn't for you.However, are you considering a brand new car with a fairly high depreciation rate for your "country run around"? If yes then this deal might be for you! Let us know if yes and then I/someone can explain further the advantages/disadvantages of leasing or try googling "what are the advantages of leasing a new car".


"Leasing typically costs you more than an equivalent loan, in part because of higher finance charges.
Once you’re in the leasing habit, monthly payments go on forever. In contrast, the longer you keep a vehicle after a loan is paid off, the more value you get out of it.
You have a limited number of miles in your lease contract, typically 12,000 to 15,000 miles a year. If you drive more than that, you’ll have to pay an excess mileage penalty of 10 cents to as much as 25 cents for every additional mile. On the other hand, if you drive too little, you don’t get credit for the unused miles.
You must maintain the vehicle in good condition, or you’ll have to pay excess wear-and-tear charges when you turn it in. So, if your kids are apt to turn the interior into a finger-painting studio or your car’s a magnet for parking lot dents and dings, be prepared to pay extra.
If you need to get out of a lease before it expires, you may be stuck with thousands of dollars in early-termination fees and penalties—all due at once. This could equal the amount it would cost had you stuck with the lease for its entire term.
You aren’t allowed to customize your vehicle in any permanent way."

It's a NO from me
TomScrut
OrribleHarry
All cars with electric handbrakes that I've had including manual automatically give hill hold assist as they automatically release when releasing the clutch.
My Golf did have it but my S5 (which is auto) doesn't (it's an option) and a mate has ordered a new A4 with manual and hill hold is an option which he has chosen.

Good look with DSG gearbox! the ECU failed on mine and put itself in two gears at once whilst accelerating down a motorway slip road completely destroyed the gearbox.
OrribleHarry
All cars with electric handbrakes that I've had including manual automatically give hill hold assist as they automatically release when releasing the clutch.
My Golf did have it but my S5 (which is auto) doesn't (it's an option) and a mate has ordered a new A4 with manual and hill hold is an option which he has chosen.
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Skoda Octavia 1.0TSI SE Technology. 2 year lease, 8k miles per year Upfront £2400 + £239.99 Admin / £104.30pm - £5,038.89 @ National Vehicle Solutions

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Good price on a brand new Skoda Octavia on lease. 2 Year lease 8k Miles per year £2400 up front £104.30 per month Total cost: £5038.89 inc admin fee. Higher miles or lower initial payment are avail… Read More
Good price on a brand new Skoda Octavia on lease. 2 Year lease 8k Miles per year £2400 up front £104.30 per month Total cost: £5038.89 inc admin fee. Higher miles or lower initial payment are avail…
kristmace Avatar5d, 20h agoFound 5 days, 20 hours ago29 Comments
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boofuls1
Servicing not included
Do you know how many services it will need in 2 years?

One minor at 12mths.
boofuls1
Servicing not included
Do you know how many services it will need in 2 years?
Guzzle
The car in the image above is also the pre-facelift model with the old headlights. All new Octavia's come with the controversial split headlights, including the sportier models.

Yup, the Pre-facelift is much easier on the eye from the front!
A 24 + 23 payment schedule, never seen a lease with such a high upfront cost. 9 + 23 is the usual max.
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Volkswagen Scirocco 2.0 TSI 180ps GT 3dr Personal Lease - £5,820.89 total @ National Vehicle Solutions

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Volkswagen Scirocco 2.0 TSI 180ps GT 3dr Personal contract. Lease 24 month lease 10000 miles. On the link make sure you check the personal box and select 10000 miles. There is a choice of 5000 or 8000… Read More
Volkswagen Scirocco 2.0 TSI 180ps GT 3dr Personal contract. Lease 24 month lease 10000 miles. On the link make sure you check the personal box and select 10000 miles. There is a choice of 5000 or 8000…
Dr_Lovegod Avatar1w, 6d agoFound 1 week, 6 days ago5 Comments
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rich146
It’s no rumour. It’s happening right now. Even the VW main site is showing the range at discount now. I’ve just ordered my 2nd lease scirocco R especially as it’s the last chance to lease one now. Might purchase after my 3 years are up. It’s an old platform but boy do you get some looks. Lovely shape. Not many cars out there with character as with the scirocco. Shame it’s not even being updated instead. This deal is good. I posted it on the VW SCIROCCO R OWNERS - UK Facebook page
Let's hope they're secretly planning to replace it with an updated corrado. Loved my vr6.
It’s no rumour. It’s happening right now. Even the VW main site is showing the range at discount now. I’ve just ordered my 2nd lease scirocco R especially as it’s the last chance to lease one now. Might purchase after my 3 years are up. It’s an old platform but boy do you get some looks. Lovely shape. Not many cars out there with character as with the scirocco. Shame it’s not even being updated instead. This deal is good. I posted it on the VW SCIROCCO R OWNERS - UK Facebook page
Agree the Scirocco is starting to show its age now. There's no replacement on the horizon though, and there are rumours it may be axed.
I've had 2 of these in the past (2009 and 2011) and they were great cars, but the MQB platform was a huge leap forward in handling/refinement for the MK7 Golf and other MQB based models - the Scirocco desperately needs an update, it is approaching 9 years old now.

Still a fair bit of car for the price.
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VW Golf R DSG Estate Lease 310 BHP 10k miles p.a, £215.83 per month (£2400 initial) £7,604.08 at NVS

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Volkswagen Golf Estate 2.0 TSI 310ps R DSG 4Motion Mark 7.5 with 10k miles per annum. This is the facelift model. There are other terms available and excess mileage is 10.8p / mile. Personally I wou… Read More
Volkswagen Golf Estate 2.0 TSI 310ps R DSG 4Motion Mark 7.5 with 10k miles per annum. This is the facelift model. There are other terms available and excess mileage is 10.8p / mile. Personally I wou…
uzy89 Avatar2w, 4d agoFound 2 weeks, 4 days ago18 Comments
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The deal wasn't pulled due to error or wrong price @uzy89 it was a limited stock offer so once stock run out deal closed.
I look at the overall cost.
Don't understand why anyone would give a sizable deposit for a rental car?
1+23 deals are good, but these seem crazy
Cheers, man! Ordered but not here, made me look though.
Ordered thank you
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Skoda Octavia vRS Diesel Estate 2.0 TDI CR £5,322.21 at National Vehicle Solutions. 10k mpa, 2yr lease

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Cracking deal for the vRS Estate with 10,000 miles allowance per year. Very low custom initial rental of £586.41, then 23 payments of £195.47. The admin fee is £239.99 giving an equivalent monthly c… Read More
Cracking deal for the vRS Estate with 10,000 miles allowance per year. Very low custom initial rental of £586.41, then 23 payments of £195.47. The admin fee is £239.99 giving an equivalent monthly c…
SilverBandit Avatar2m, 3d agoFound 2 months, 3 days ago7 Comments
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Expired now, must have been a misprice - they've up'd the initial rental to £2400.
Sorry folks.
cspectre
GeoffAngela
How do you get that please?
Comes in at £270.55 a month, £811.65 first payment when I try.
Follow the link, set mileage to 10k and the initial rental reduces by a (suspiciously) large amount to match the above deal. Looks like a potential mis-price? But good if you can actually get it.

Ah, got it. But if you proceed to the enquiry screen you don't seem to be able to get that price. Pity, my wife was keen on one of these.
rooney10
Is this price for business use ex vat perhaps ?
Seems very cheap indeed , £2661.10 a year ...... much less than depreciation would cost you for a 1 - 2 year old used car , never mind a new one !

It is possibly to get really cheap deals. Just leased a Kia Optima Sportswagen (Mondeo sized estate) from these guys for £177 first payment, £177 a month for 2 years 5K PA. But I think this might be a pricing error.
Very nice price if it does indeed come out at £221.76 pm.
GeoffAngela
How do you get that please?
Comes in at £270.55 a month, £811.65 first payment when I try.

Follow the link, set mileage to 10k and the initial rental reduces by a (suspiciously) large amount to match the above deal. Looks like a potential mis-price? But good if you can actually get it.
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Audi A6 2.0TDI ULTRA S Tronic £241.00 Business Lease @ NVS

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Basically its an Audi for £42 over three years plus the £199 admin fee = £241. Only the 2 litre but even if all you do is park it up and actually superior its still worth it. Read More
Basically its an Audi for £42 over three years plus the £199 admin fee = £241. Only the 2 litre but even if all you do is park it up and actually superior its still worth it.
adamc11 Avatar2m, 3w agoFound 2 months, 3 weeks ago15 Comments
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senukas
Oh well, they will need to pay us soon to take diesels ;)

Who are "they"?
I dunno why this went so cold lol
I got one! They said they would honour the first 5!!! Being delivered tomorrow on the back of a unicorn.
Just got a reply from NVS - sorry this was a pricing error... Oh well, they will need to pay us soon to take diesels ;)
djbenny1
Ha, I thought you'd left out the initial payment in the title.
I've ordered 6.
Really? You Lying
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Seat LEON HATCHBACK 1.4TSI FR TECH Personal Lease £4,548.00 @ National Vehicle Solutions

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23 x £83.76 Initial rental £2400 Admin fee £239.99 Total £4548 6000 miles per year. Overall £189.50 a month Free metallic paint. Read More
23 x £83.76 Initial rental £2400 Admin fee £239.99 Total £4548 6000 miles per year. Overall £189.50 a month Free metallic paint.
memistokkan Avatar3m, 1w agoFound 3 months, 1 week ago6 Comments
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Heat from me. That's a good price for a nice looking car.
This deal has been available for over a month, I almost went for this but opted for the Ateca.
KareemSaid
I can understand some of the people who want a new hot hatch and have to pretend that they can afford a new car.

If I was into cars I'd much prefer to save up and buy outright instead of hiring it for 2 years. £6000 can buy you a hell of a lot of car - haha!!

I'll never understand why people seem to think that leases are for people trying to pretend they can afford a new car. You need to put some figures and assumptions against owning versus leasing rather than just having that warm fuzzy feeling that you own the car.

What about those of us who have that £7000 and an S&S ISA with which they estimate they can achieve a 7% return annually?

The return on £7000 invested for 2 years at 7% p/a would be £1014.30.

However, for a fair comparison, we'd need to pull the funds needed for the lease out of the ISA and leave the rest invested, i.e. you'd be starting with £4360.01 in your ISA and pulling £83.76 out of it monthly. This reduces the return quoted above to £495.27.

You'd have stuck £7000 in your ISA, paid the overall lease cost of £4566.47 and be left with £2928.80 in your ISA.

In buying, you'd have spent £7,000 on the car and £300 or so in tax. The 6000 miles per year on a Seat lease with longlife servicing means no tyres and a single service. Your purchased car will likely require 4 tyres and an extra service - lets say around £600.

Putting all those figures together means that you'd need to sell your car for £2928.80 + £300 + £600 = £3828.80 to be even with the lease.

A typical car depreciates by 35% in 2 years meaning that your car would be worth £4550.

In summary, if buying a 4 year old Focus and selling after 2 years, you should reasonably expect to save £721.20 over the cost of leasing this new car. I, for one, would be willing to pay the 19% premium to own a brand new Seat Leon over a 4 year old Focus.

The above figures assumes that nothing goes wrong with the Focus - which is well outside it's warranty period. That's a pretty big assumption and any deviation skews the results towards the lease being the cheaper option.

Personally, I change cars every 2 years anyway so leasing avoids the hassle of having to deal with potential buyers when trying to sell a car.

Edited By: marathonic on Apr 12, 2017 17:18
KareemSaid
Things like this, with a massive 6000 MPA - I will always struggle to understand.

42% of all UK motorists do 6k miles or less:

https://s17.postimg.org/dm8xny2fz/Capture.jpg

KareemSaid
If I was into cars I'd much prefer to save up and buy outright instead of hiring it for 2 years. £6000 can buy you a hell of a lot of car - haha!!

Such as? A seven year old Focus? Congrats!
6,000 miles wouldn't be enough for me but it's plenty for some people. If you need more miles then increasing the allowance to 10k per year costs a huge £7.56 extra per month.

The cost of this deal is not £6,000, it's actually less than £5,000, even with the increased mileage allowance. That same money will get you a 5 to 6 year old Leon with about 50k on the clock, part worn tyres, max 1 years VED and warranty. It probably won't break down if it's been looked after, but if it does then once your warranty has run out then that cost is on you.

Not everyone that leases does so to pretend they can afford a new car. There are those that do it as they know it can sometimes work out less expensive than buying outright. You just have to shop around and know the difference between a good deal and a bad deal. Also with leasing you get fixed costs and you don't have a large amount of cash tied up in a depreciating asset.

Everyone knows second hand cars are less expensive than new ones. It's basic economics. A more meaningful comparison would be to compare the cost of this lease with purchasing either with cash or via pcp.
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Seat LEON HATCHBACK - Business Lease 2 year term = 3,875.00 / Personal = £4650.23 @ National Vehicle Solutions

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I am not that good at submitting these deals so i will let the professionals have a field day :D Offer is based on new 2017 model (Facelift) Fuel Consumption54.3 mpg CO2 Emissions120g/km Fuel Type… Read More
I am not that good at submitting these deals so i will let the professionals have a field day :D Offer is based on new 2017 model (Facelift) Fuel Consumption54.3 mpg CO2 Emissions120g/km Fuel Type…
andrisan10 Avatar3m, 3w agoFound 3 months, 3 weeks ago10 Comments
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I think the price you have calculated is wrong as there would only be 23 payments of £83.76 (inc VAT)

Therefore:-
Initial Payment £2,400 + £239.99 = £2,639.99
Monthly fee 23 x £83.76 = £1,926.48

Total £4,566.47 or an average of £190 a month.

Having a quick look around does not look a bad price for this car but not sure it is Hot.
PointDex
For that I'll rather get a Range Rover for 1 year

1. I bet you would. What's your point?

2. Not even close to the price. At least double..
andrisan10
Syzable
Thanks for sharing, have updated to show the full term costs.
aaaa....how did you got those costs? i did forgot about the deposit but for the business deal with initial payment is 3875...am i missing something?

Apologies, i shouldn't be trusted with a calculator. I have no idea how i got those figures either :| Off to make more coffee
Syzable
Thanks for sharing, have updated to show the full term costs.
aaaa....how did you got those costs? i did forgot about the deposit but for the business deal with initial payment is 3875...am i missing something?
PointDex
For that I'll rather get a Range Rover for 1 year

And what Walk the other year? Since you'll only have a car for 1 year and not 2.
For that I'd rather have a bugatti veyron for a week but would then be stuffed for the rest of the time

Edited By: winifer on Mar 29, 2017 10:28
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Volkswagen TIGUAN 2.0TDI BMT 150 SE NAV Personal Lease £273.58 P/M No Deposit - £6,565.91 @ National Vehicle Solutions

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5000 miles a year No initial deposit. Personal Deal £263.58per month INCL VAT Initial Rental £263.58 INCL VAT Contract Length 24 Months Admin Fee £239.99 Total £6,565.91 = £273.58 per mont… Read More
5000 miles a year No initial deposit. Personal Deal £263.58per month INCL VAT Initial Rental £263.58 INCL VAT Contract Length 24 Months Admin Fee £239.99 Total £6,565.91 = £273.58 per mont…
square88 Avatar4m, 5d agoFound 4 months, 5 days ago17 Comments
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Jonsmyname
Freezing cold... my Tiguan 150 came in January and is 119 a month for two years with 2400 down. Significantly cheaper than this deal.
Can you share this deal please.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/vw-tiguan-2-0-tdi-scr-150-6speed-se-nav-lease-2-400-23-119-99-5339-77-over-24-months-2500741
Jonsmyname
Freezing cold... my Tiguan 150 came in January and is 119 a month for two years with 2400 down. Significantly cheaper than this deal.


Can you share this deal please.
Freezing cold... my Tiguan 150 came in January and is 119 a month for two years with 2400 down. Significantly cheaper than this deal.
pnaylor39
Still not great during to milage restriction.

Never said it was, however, many people do less than 8k miles in a year.
dannythemusicman
I have to lol and vote cold when I see a 5k mileage on a car with nav, like you ever going to need it doing so few miles :s


I had my car 5 years and did less than 25,000. Just because it don't suit your needs don't mean it won't suit others
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Nissan QASHQAI 1.5 dCi Acenta Vision Pack , 15k miles £191.69 nationalvehiclesolutions £8,865.05

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1.5dci diesel 15k miles per year £1725.21 initial payment 36 months £191.69 per month £239 admin charge Read More
1.5dci diesel 15k miles per year £1725.21 initial payment 36 months £191.69 per month £239 admin charge
shopar_artiz Avatar4m, 1w agoFound 4 months, 1 week ago12 Comments
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Voted cold because the prices on their website are not up to date. You can't genuinely get this car anywhere for this price. Actual price now:

Vehicle:

NISSAN QASHQAI DIESEL HATCHBACK 1.5 dCi Acenta [Smart Vision Pack] 5dr

Extras/Options:

In Metallic - Ink blue colour

Profile:

3 year contract (9+35)

Miles per annum:

10000

Initial Rental:

1750.46 Inc VAT

Monthly Rental:

194.50 Inc VAT per month

Admin fee:

239.99 Inc VAT
yes, i know lower miles is better priced, but i need at least 16000, so 15000 plus extra miles paid, is my only option. it is really difficult to find diesel engine lease with high miles cheap.
scottishpunter
Is the total cost correct, it is usually the initial payment then 35 times the monthly not 36, so £8,674.35 total cost. It also depends on whether you really need the 15k miles per year, 10k is available at £7,829.99 total cost.

Seems quite a good price at 10k a year.. Looking for a lease and this sounds a good deal, am i right?
pretty standard deal this. not voting either way
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Kia Optima Sportswagon 1.7 CRDI 2 ISG Lease deal £183 per month £4,646.87 @ National Vehicle Solutions

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Initial rental £183.62 23 x £183.62 Admin £239.99 Total £4646.87 8,000 miles Read More
Initial rental £183.62 23 x £183.62 Admin £239.99 Total £4646.87 8,000 miles
memistokkan Avatar4m, 2w agoFound 4 months, 2 weeks ago3 Comments
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If you're after the level 3 spec rather than 2 try contacting some Kia dealerships directly, they provided me with much more realistic pricing than the brokers.
m5rcc
There are cheaper deals out there for the same car, albeit with a higher deposit.


True
There are cheaper deals out there for the same car, albeit with a higher deposit.
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Seat ATECA 1.0 TSI Ecomotive S 5dr lease deal total £4,329.83 @ National vehicle lease

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£170.41per month INCL VAT Initial Rental£170.41 INCL VAT Contract Length24 Admin Fee£239.99 10,000 miles per year total £4329.83 Max. power:115 PS Max. speed:114 mph Acceleration 0-62mph (s)… Read More
£170.41per month INCL VAT Initial Rental£170.41 INCL VAT Contract Length24 Admin Fee£239.99 10,000 miles per year total £4329.83 Max. power:115 PS Max. speed:114 mph Acceleration 0-62mph (s)…
learoy69 Avatar4m, 2w agoFound 4 months, 2 weeks ago108 Comments
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Deal has ended. I applied for one yesterday and have been advised the dealer has allocated them all!
m5rcc
That's applicable to all manufacturers though. The MPG and CO2 are NEDC lab test figures, not real life ones, where every manufacturer has optimised its engines for such tests. You should be able to get around 45MPG from this car.

This website suggests we can expect about 41mpg - which does make it one of the more fuel efficient petrol-engined MPVs.
http://equaindex.com/fuel-economy-index/
sleth
Would you recommend GAP insurance and if yes what about there scratch and dent cover?
Thanks

It's not mandatory of course but it's just there to cover the difference between what you still owe and the market value of the car if you write it off. It's a significant commission earner for dealers/lease firms, so it is usually less than half the price when purchased independently, such as via ALA via TCB. (I'm not an ALA salesperson, Bertie).

Scratches and dents depend on the lease firm and their T&Cs. Typically, small areas of chipping, light scratches up to 25mm in length and dents up to 10mm providing paint is not broken are permissible. Any larger it may be prudent to fix them at your cost before the end of term, but no doubt I shall be corrected.
ArthurDent1
'80s Fiats rusted, by the '90s they'd switched to galvanised steel. They were one of the first manufacturers to do so, partly because they had to do SOMETHING about their vehicles rotting away and partly because galvanised steel became much cheaper (if you use very cheap steel and then galvanise it the cost can be less than decent quality steel).

Probably all of their range by the early to mid 1990s were fully galvanised, but I recall my uncle's Croma being mechanically perfect but rotten within eight years.

ArthurDent1
Tempted by this deal but I'm wary of very small petrol engines; the fuel economy is rarely even close to the manufacturer's claims (and VAG don't have a good history of honesty about their claims!).

That's applicable to all manufacturers though. The MPG and CO2 are NEDC lab test figures, not real life ones, where every manufacturer has optimised its engines for such tests. You should be able to get around 45MPG from this car.

ArthurDent1
and I'm not comfortable with leasing - I'd rather own my vehicle. I suspect I'll end up with a Scenic diesel instead, but I'll go and have a look at these in my local Seat dealer.

That's quite a contradictory set of sentences, no? And before Bertie gets his knickers in a twist, I'm referring to owning a diesel but not leasing one. Given all the problems associated with the aforementioned emissions and the unreliable emissions equipment on a diesel, unless you do 20k+ miles/year, need a very big vehicle such as a pick-up or a van, or need to tow something, why would you buy a diesel. Would it not be prudent to lease a diesel, but buy a petrol to own?
Bertz99
That is answering a different question than I asked and is a perfect example on you answering something to overriding other peoples viewpoints with your own subjective view.

I am still waiting for you to answer questions I asked you previously, Bertie.

Bertz99
I would like to know what you know about captain_cab's understanding of leasing that enabled you to make a leap of faith without facts? He did not supply enough information to jump to the conclusion you gave based on any factual or logical reasoning and would have required you having further discussion to get to that conclusion.

He did - that is why I wrote what I wrote.

Bertz99
That still does not make your statement factually correct as it isn't the depreciated value but the predicted depreciated one.

All future values are predicted, as they happen in the future, Bertie. Dealers will guarantee you a future value say against a PCP because they can rip you off on the other side. I posted what is the residual value of this Ateca after three years and 30k miles.

Bertz99
You like to correct others on grammar and spellings so I know you understand the significant difference in that word being there and not there.

Is that a compliment or another moan?

Bertz99
you still miss the point in that there are more variables in the equation and Mynameism gave another differing segment that your statement does not fit to "you want to beat depreciation, then lease" in the market segment he is describing. I would infer from what he supplied he would consider a new car bought or leased to be a luxury but to know you would need to engage Mynameism to fully determine rather than guess.

Infer away Bertie: it’s what you do best. I will comment on what is provided at the time, should I wish to, of course. If you wish to police and/or regulate what I write, then please do continue to do so. In fact, I would re-suggest that you go to all the previous lease deals I have commented on and correct me there too.

Bertz99
What does that have to do with Fiat recovering from the brand damage in the late 70's and early 80's on rust and being the first major manufacturer to fully galvanise their complete range? Or more importantly that your so called facts that you presented were factually incorrect?

MBs of that time were also galvanised yet rusted, despite having a thirty-year Mobilo warranty. Fact Bertie. Not opinion.

Bertz99
Yes I know you have a passion for 1980's Mercedes that even in the 80's were well behind the market and looking dated.
If you say so…

Bertz99
got to worry about you neither knowing the year Fiat first introduced using galvanised steel in the manufacturer of their cars or the year you were born.

I know both. You know what I asked…

Bertz99
of course I do - but I am also seeing Hugh Jordan as well as many others in many threads repeat the some complaint positioned to you as I also have.

Sadly they go about it the wrong way. I do not need to call people names to get my point across. One can calmly and rationally debate without having to name-call, can they not?

Bertz99
I am not stalking just browsing lease deals and seeing you being as unconstructive as you can be with any view that does not hit your prescribed approach rather than playing nice with others.

Stalking on Twitter/Google is still stalking, Bertie. Even you know that, no? Would you like me to quote you when you have done so?

Bertz99
Must thankyou for giving me your authority to do as I please it's a truly humbling experience.

You’re welcome.

Bertz99
When the framework starts we will find out. Again though this does not stop how vocal you were that others were so wrong that this wouldn't/couldn't happen being factually incorrect and speculating your opinion.

Am I not allowed to have an opinion? Leaving the EU is going to be a huge mistake for the UK. It’s already a mess and we haven’t even left yet…

Bertz99
I wouldn't say that is obvious in the slightest purely speculative at this moment along with others future permutations you can speculate about.

US car loans has surpassed $1.4trn already. I’ve already seen four dozen 17-plate cars and we are only a week in. Banks and car leasers are rubbing their hands because they are making very easy money yet executing the exact same mistakes that were made with the housing bubble and consumers are living on plastic. Speculative to you perhaps, reality for those who see the facts and the figures

Bertz99
Albeit in your trade you know about speculating as a business far more than I would.

And which trade is that, Bertie? Only a stalker would know what I do…

Bertz99
of course you would need to say that.

I didn’t say it. The Gover did.

Bertz99
and relevence to you still wanting to play games yet demeaning someone that does.

It’s relevance, Bertie.

I was still in school when I played Mario Kart 64, Bertie…

Bertz99
The point is that you are not integral to your own viewpoint and will shift to demean others regardless on the consistency or continuity to yourself.

Please refer to when I have demeaned others? If anything people have demeaned myself, and I would include you in that bracket.
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Seat Ateca 1.0 TSI Ecomotive S 5dr 24 month lease, 10000 miles PA, Total £3,735.41 at National Vehicle Solutions

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Only the basic model, but looks a decent deal for a good quality car £129.46 incl VAT monthly rentals £388.38 initial rental £239.99 admin fee Other mileages available, but this seems the chea…
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As I say - I'm not in a leasing deal so just commenting on the research I've done as I'm also thinking about it.

For e.g. this car here I've picked randomly: https://www.selectcarleasing.co.uk/car-leasing/nissan/qashqai/hatchback/15_dci_n~connecta_5dr/73659.html

shows maintenance as £14 p/m excl.VAT so work on that as an example

Although remember as it's a new car, you'll be covered under the manufacturers warranty if any issues happen. You'll just have to decide on a case by case basis as to what's included under the man. warranty and decide whether it's worth the extra money for peace of mind for those things not covered.

As fossman says, the likelihood will be you'll just be paying for 1 annual service on a 2 year lease.

Edited By: fowler9 on Feb 28, 2017 09:07
backinstock
fossman
backinstock
fossman
fowler9
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daveyt
Which main dealer did you use?
Bristol Street Seat in Derby.
24 month lease with 10,000 miles per annum for £168.85 per month.
Was that on a 3+ or 6+ initial deposit?
Its a 1+ initial deposit.
I've never taken a lease before, but very tempted.
Did you have to pay anything in case of scratches / stone chips etc? What about servicing? Is that included?
Thanks in advance.
The price is just for the car, they did give me details about gap insurance and stones/chips insurance but they are cheaper to take out online if you want them.
Thanks.
What were any maintenance costs (if added).
I'm trying to get in my head the 'true' cost (excluding fuel and insurance) per year / week.
£50 per week would be doable.

I think an annual service only costs £149 and you would probably get away with only needing one.
fossman
backinstock
fossman
fowler9
fossman
daveyt
Which main dealer did you use?
Bristol Street Seat in Derby.
24 month lease with 10,000 miles per annum for £168.85 per month.
Was that on a 3+ or 6+ initial deposit?
Its a 1+ initial deposit.
I've never taken a lease before, but very tempted.
Did you have to pay anything in case of scratches / stone chips etc? What about servicing? Is that included?
Thanks in advance.
The price is just for the car, they did give me details about gap insurance and stones/chips insurance but they are cheaper to take out online if you want them.

Thanks.
What were any maintenance costs (if added).
I'm trying to get in my head the 'true' cost (excluding fuel and insurance) per year / week.
£50 per week would be doable.
backinstock
fossman
fowler9
fossman
daveyt
Which main dealer did you use?
Bristol Street Seat in Derby.
24 month lease with 10,000 miles per annum for £168.85 per month.
Was that on a 3+ or 6+ initial deposit?
Its a 1+ initial deposit.
I've never taken a lease before, but very tempted.
Did you have to pay anything in case of scratches / stone chips etc? What about servicing? Is that included?
Thanks in advance.

The price is just for the car, they did give me details about gap insurance and stones/chips insurance but they are cheaper to take out online if you want them.
I haven't got a lease deal but if I did - then yes I would. ala.co.uk is a good starting point to get a quote.

Edited By: fowler9 on Feb 28, 2017 08:28
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Seat Cupra 300 (March 2017) - 24 month lease, total: £7,607.00 @ National Vehicle Solutions

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This is the new Cupra 300ps. A huge amount of power for the price. (Ultimately a poor man's Golf R). 10k miles. Monthly: £215.98 Initial: £2400 Fees: £239.99 Less mileage also available. Read More
This is the new Cupra 300ps. A huge amount of power for the price. (Ultimately a poor man's Golf R). 10k miles. Monthly: £215.98 Initial: £2400 Fees: £239.99 Less mileage also available.
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ashleylangford503
Is that a good price, bad price or average price for the golf R ? My GTD goes back in August so im starting to look around to get an idea of prices. I know there was crazy deals going round last year I think, but I cant see that happening again. I see your name pop up on the lease deals, so I'm thinking you know your stuff :)

I don't think it's a good deal personally. Others may think otherwise.

Start to look around May time. You still have another six months to go and by then hopefully your lease provider will give you a bell to start flogging you some new stuff.
Test drive one, I hated it
m5rcc
dinky2016
Comparable on price
Not really. Cheapest Golf R deal I can find at the moment is this:https://s24.postimg.org/4z1qx7v1h/Capture.jpg
...which equates to £9,013.12 or £375.55/net/mth.
Is that a good price, bad price or average price for the golf R ? My GTD goes back in August so im starting to look around to get an idea of prices. I know there was crazy deals going round last year I think, but I cant see that happening again. I see your name pop up on the lease deals, so I'm thinking you know your stuff :)

Edited By: ashleylangford503 on Feb 28, 2017 11:32
What tyres do you recommend? Don't get me wrong it's a nice car, could imagine it is a little quicker. Look great too. But would not recommend coming from a awd
Sunni
m5rcc
Sunni
Ultimately a poor man's Golf R
Sunni
Maybe HUKDers know something I don't?
Not really comparable - the Golf R is AWD. This isn't, unless you get the ST version with DSG.
Fair enough. This probably sits somewhere in between a GTI and an R.

from a rolling start the cupra has the edge on the golf I know because I have both cars, but yes I'd take the golf all day long
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VW Golf 5DR 1.6 TDI GT 10k miles £166.27 23+9 plus £238 - £5,560.00 Fleet Prices £5,560.00

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Seems a good deal for good spec golf with Nav Won't let me change link http://www.fleetprices.co.uk/personal-lease-cars/volkswagen/golf-hatchback/golf-diesel-hatchback-16-tdi-gt-5dr-150692067 Read More
Seems a good deal for good spec golf with Nav Won't let me change link http://www.fleetprices.co.uk/personal-lease-cars/volkswagen/golf-hatchback/golf-diesel-hatchback-16-tdi-gt-5dr-150692067
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thegog
Really? Mine is a 14 plate. A couple of minor niggles early on that were resolved quickly. Everything fine since.

Evoques, like many Land Rover cars, are littered with faults.


No, I was referring to the Golf.
thegog
Really? Mine is a 14 plate. A couple of minor niggles early on that were resolved quickly. Everything fine since.

Evoques, like many Land Rover cars, are littered with faults.
puddles9999
Looks like a bad deal and the neighbours one keeps breaking down. I'm just going to stick to my 66 plate Range Rover evoque and the wife can have here 10 plate Ford Focus


Really? Mine is a 14 plate. A couple of minor niggles early on that were resolved quickly. Everything fine since.
spyro123
m5rcc
spyro123
With a huge deposit then at that price! I'm guessing 10k.
One can get an Evoque for under £375/net/mth, although I wouldn't recommend it.
With no deposit?

Net price, i.e. including deposit and monthly payments and admin charge.
Zuulan
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puddles9999
Looks like a bad deal and the neighbours one keeps breaking down. I'm just going to stick to my 66 plate Range Rover evoque and the wife can have here 10 plate Ford Focus
Why are you trying to show off with a 66 plate Range Rover when you have the girl's version?

Maybe Puddles9999 is a girl. Girls can marry girls.
If she/he is so bothered about showing off her brand new car, then don't tell her/him that the new 17 plates are out soon. ;)



I am male but we share the car
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Audi Q3 2.0L TDi SE 2 or 3 year personal high mileage lease - 25k miles - £338.08 per month @ national vehicle solutions

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Been looking for high mileage lease deals and came across this offer. Seems quite good compared to other deals of this calibre which normally come in around £450+. The same website is advertising Fies… Read More
Been looking for high mileage lease deals and came across this offer. Seems quite good compared to other deals of this calibre which normally come in around £450+. The same website is advertising Fies…
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Surely no one services a car unless forced to?
I changed my oil and noted it had been 50,000 miles since the last one (about 2 years)
nougat
why would you want to take it to a main dealer in the first place?

It is possibly a condition of the lease.
why would you want to take it to a main dealer in the first place?
corred1964
donslibi
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donslibi
corred1964
donslibi
corred1964
Good price but probably require expensive main dealer servicing with no maintenance included will may add around £60+ a month to that price
£60 a month is excessive. For comparison, a typical BMW's first service is after 20k miles and that's an oil change. Not sure about Audi but certainly won't be 10 times that.
I was talking about an average over 3 years when you start including major services ! Last time I had a major service on an Audi it cost over £400
£400 / 36 =~£11pm for 36months.
And obviously with a 2 year lease, there is no need for a major service.
Over 3 years with servicing & other parts requiring replacement (excl consumables) my Audi cost over £900 a year on average....having covered 80k miles (true that included a new clutch but not a warranty repair)
Brake pads alone are £400 a set, a clutch around £800....services at 19k min £150 major £319 (plus non service parts)
Interesting... new car or used? Secondly, 80k miles over 3 years, not 50k. Thirdly, £900 per year for maintaining a new car? I know from experience it doesn't cost that much to run a brand new car. It used to cost that much to maintain my previous (10+ year old E-Class).


It was new......it had 2 full sets of pads in that time, a new clutch at 56k, a new wheel bearing at 60k & was serviced every 15k miles (mixed rather than all motorway).....not saying it will cost this much..but on a 3 year 25k lease that's 75k over the lease...I may have been unlucky but these days I'd only go for a fully maintained lease even if it cost £40 a month more.......not that I need to these days !!


something wrong with the car or driver. I've had a few cars and no car has had to have a clutch replaced until at least 100000 miles. had my Peugeot for 14 years and I had the clutch changed for the first time 2 years ago at 108000. if my audi lasts only 58k I will complain.. either they badly designed, too stressed on you need some right foot treatment lol
donslibi
m5rcc
donslibi
Fair enough, but an old issue that affected N47 engines manufactured between 2007 and 2011.
An old issue that has knocked BMW down a peg or two on the myth of reliability of German cars. BMW are not the only manufacturing imposing/suggesting longlife service plans. VAG do it group-wide too, so, as per the OPs requirements, not having a major service at all in 50k miles would be plain stupid.
Just checked and new BMW oil change is every 10k miles.

In that basis with main dealer costs you could expect around £500 in servicing costs each year covering 25k a year
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A3 Sportback with SE 1.0 TFSI 6-speed 116 PS £4,642.00 for 24 month lease @ NVC

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What more need I say? This is the cheapest I've seen one of these in a long time. £2400 initial payment and £87pm. Increasing mileage barely adds much cost. Out of interest I priced one up direct on a… Read More
What more need I say? This is the cheapest I've seen one of these in a long time. £2400 initial payment and £87pm. Increasing mileage barely adds much cost. Out of interest I priced one up direct on a…
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Had a chat with this company today and despite the deal still on their website, the deal is priced on Q4 discounts from 2016 which they don't seem to have access to now.

Deal should be expired in my opinion.
Speedbirdjw
For all the experienced leasers, does the contract state I have to get it serviced at an AUDI Approved garage? Am I able to put a private plate on it? Am I able to extend the term after 24 months? Im tempted but only if I get a 17 plate.

If you take a car financed by VW financial services you'll need to service at VW approved. Yes you can put a private plate on. £60 admin fee. Yes you can extend after 24 months or request a price to purchase it


Thanks Speed cleared up a few issues am new to leasing have done PCP before but not an outright lease
boostii
Just seen some total wally in one of these at my local leisure centre car park. Left his massively loud stereo blaring with the doors wide open and blocking the car park entrance so he didn't have to walk far over to the ticket machine. His reg plate was A3 CUM. Says it all really about Audi drivers :(


yeah right same goes for the rest as well don't blame a single brand that's totally wrong
For all the experienced leasers, does the contract state I have to get it serviced at an AUDI Approved garage? Am I able to put a private plate on it? Am I able to extend the term after 24 months? Im tempted but only if I get a 17 plate.

If you take a car financed by VW financial services you'll need to service at VW approved. Yes you can put a private plate on. £60 admin fee. Yes you can extend after 24 months or request a price to purchase it
fancy explaining why its not again?

Can you explain how you're going to have that car for 2 years at a lower cost that the lease then?
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SKODA OCTAVIA 1.4TSI 150 SE SPORT. Lease. £2400 deposit + £83.44/month including VAT. 10000 miles/year. 24months. nationalvehiclesolutions £4,559.00

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24 month lease deal. Sat Nav, Rear park sensors, 17inch wheels, free metallic paint option. £2400 deposit plus monthly payments of £83.44 and £239.99 admin fee. 10000 miles/year. Looks like a bargain
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Thanks op
I've been looking for a decent deal and really please with this
Brilliant deal, should I wait for a deal on a z4 or buy this? Practical and economical or extravagant?
Cameron92
Mark9988
Cameron92
Prefer a VAG
This is a vag


*Prefer a nicer VAG


After luckily getting Passat Alltrack deal via HDUK, no lease deal looks hot for me any more! Bring back price glitches!
Mark9988
Cameron92
Prefer a VAG
This is a vag


*Prefer a nicer VAG
Mark9988
Cameron92
Prefer a VAG
This is a vag
Only better built and more reliable. :)
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Honda Civic 1.6 i-DTEC Sport 5dr [Nav] £1800 initial rental , £240 admin fee 24 months Personal Lease £3,997.52 @ National Vehicle Solutions

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24 months, 5,000 miles. Initial rental is £1,800, admin £240, 23 months x £85.11 = total is £3,997.52. Or £166.56 a month. Read More
24 months, 5,000 miles. Initial rental is £1,800, admin £240, 23 months x £85.11 = total is £3,997.52. Or £166.56 a month.
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Brilliant cars. Now if only I could find a deal like this with a Civic Auto..
m5rcc
gslgregory
m5rcc
gslgregory
Therefore Honda is 68p / month cheaper (more if Skoda admin fee included), accepting that I may have a small amount of excess mileage to pay if I exceed my 8000 miles.
Then it's not cheaper is it!?
Okay, if you want to get down to the bones, for the Honda I need to add excess mileage for, say 1,000 miles (I would not exceed that). That would add an additional £5.83/month.
For the Skoda the admin fee is £200 (I looked it up). That adds £8.33/month to the cost of the Skoda.
So I would have been paying an equivalent of £194.97 for the Skoda, whereas I estimate I will be paying £191.81 for the Honda.
So the Honda IS cheaper - by £3.16 per month.
Wrong. Try again:
This Honda deal is £166.56 + £5.83 for your excess mileage = £172.39/net/month
Skoda is £194.93/net/month
Tell me the difference now...
Don't know how you have calculated yours, but mine's based on 8k miles and includes £240 admin fee. Ah I see where you've gone wrong - you have calculated using 5k miles/

But the important thing is you now agree that the Honda is cheaper than the Skoda - which is what I originally said.
gslgregory
m5rcc
gslgregory
Therefore Honda is 68p / month cheaper (more if Skoda admin fee included), accepting that I may have a small amount of excess mileage to pay if I exceed my 8000 miles.
Then it's not cheaper is it!?
Okay, if you want to get down to the bones, for the Honda I need to add excess mileage for, say 1,000 miles (I would not exceed that). That would add an additional £5.83/month.
For the Skoda the admin fee is £200 (I looked it up). That adds £8.33/month to the cost of the Skoda.
So I would have been paying an equivalent of £194.97 for the Skoda, whereas I estimate I will be paying £191.81 for the Honda.
So the Honda IS cheaper - by £3.16 per month.

Wrong. Try again:

This Honda deal is £166.56 + £5.83 for your excess mileage = £172.39/net/month

Skoda is £194.93/net/month

Tell me the difference now...
m5rcc
gslgregory
Therefore Honda is 68p / month cheaper (more if Skoda admin fee included), accepting that I may have a small amount of excess mileage to pay if I exceed my 8000 miles.
Then it's not cheaper is it!?
Okay, if you want to get down to the bones, for the Honda I need to add excess mileage for, say 1,000 miles (I would not exceed that). That would add an additional £5.83/month.

For the Skoda the admin fee is £200 (I looked it up). That adds £8.33/month to the cost of the Skoda.

So I would have been paying an equivalent of £194.97 for the Skoda, whereas I estimate I will be paying £191.81 for the Honda.

So the Honda IS cheaper - by £3.16 per month.
gslgregory
Therefore Honda is 68p / month cheaper (more if Skoda admin fee included), accepting that I may have a small amount of excess mileage to pay if I exceed my 8000 miles.

Then it's not cheaper is it!?
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VW Golf GTI - 5dr DSG - 220bhp, keyless entry, 18" alloys, sat nav, heated front seats, front/rear parking sensors etc. - £2400 deposit & £108/month - 2 year personal lease - £5,145.38 - National vehicle solutions

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Great deal considering £30k list price and DSG variant. Initial monthly rental - £2400 23 monthly rentals of £108.93 Admin fee - £239.99 Total payable - £5145.38 based on 5k miles pa. Average £214 pe…
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Wish I got this
jay_masters13
clarence47a
stiltsky
anyone got a delivery date yet? I got a tracking number this afternoon allowing 72 hrs to appear.
Same here.Very pleased so far

Seems to be going through ok, shows as at the factory on the tracker, anyone know where you pick the car up from?


Still waiting for my tracking number but been accepted at dealer apparently.
They deliver it to you.
clarence47a
stiltsky
anyone got a delivery date yet? I got a tracking number this afternoon allowing 72 hrs to appear.
Same here.Very pleased so far

Seems to be going through ok, shows as at the factory on the tracker, anyone know where you pick the car up from?
If it depreciates, rent it. If it appreciates, buy it!
I don't get the obsession with owning something that decreases in value. It's all about the ownership costs over the period you plan to keep it.
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