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Netatmo Thermostat Plus Amazon Dot Bundle £148.99 @ Amazon

£148.99 @ Amazon
Very tempted by this seeing as the Thermostat on its own is £149.99 through Prime and I have already preordered a Dot and an Echo. Some blurb on the Netatmo which is highly reviewed: A product of … Read More
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10m, 3d agoFound 10 months, 3 days ago
Very tempted by this seeing as the Thermostat on its own is £149.99 through Prime and I have already preordered a Dot and an Echo.

Some blurb on the Netatmo which is highly reviewed:
A product of the connected lifestyle range is the Netatmo Thermostat which enables you to control your heating, remotely.

Smart heating in your home
The Netatmo Thermostat can set a program to reflect your living habits. With its Auto-Adapt function, it predicts the start of the heating periods depending on your household insulation and the outdoor temperature.

Energy saver
For each month of the year, your personal Energy Savings Report lets you track your home’s energy consumption and helps you to schedule your heating more effectively. This could mean that the Netatmo Thermostat will save up to 37% of your household energy consumption, reducing carbon footprint too.*

Energy in graph form
With the dedicated Netatmo app, you’ll be able to monitor your past energy consumption. Both indoor temperature and boiler (gas, fuel or wood) activity is recorded continuously in the app, which can be downloaded (for free) from the App store, Google play or Windows Phone Store.

Seamless design
The simple and minimalist design by Starck means that the Netatmo Thermostat will blend seamlessly into any home decor. And with five interchange colours to choose from, you’ll be able to find one which suits.
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shalton
I have the netamo. It is good.

Great review. Thanks. ;)

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1 Like #1
I have the netamo. It is good.
16 Likes #2
shalton
I have the netamo. It is good.

Great review. Thanks. ;)
#3
Netatamo is amazing, love mine.
#4
I could be wrong but don't think this will control a separate hot water tank in addition to the heating? Those looking to be able to control both will need evohome, nest 3g, or a hive?
2 Likes #5
Or in my case tado which also does geolocation and switches on the heating when it knows people are on their way home. I never touch the settings now - it just works at maximum efficiency. I'm not sure any others manage that quite as well.

It does the water on a schedule.

I've never really understood the need to have heating and water control at your fingertips except on rare occasions when it's suddenly too cold or the tank runs out or something.

Edited By: Sid Harper on Sep 17, 2016 07:56: Additions
#6
Netatmo or nest? I think the nest looks nicer and seems to have more third party support (IFTTT etc)
1 Like #7
Not sure hot water control is necessary. Lot of people now have combi boilers

I have a standard boiler with a tank and hot water just comes on twice a day and if im away I turn it off. Water stays warm for 48 hours in tank anyway so coming on twice a day probably only burns for around 5 min if it's not been used just to top the temperature up.
#8
nitro228
Netatmo or nest? I think the nest looks nicer and seems to have more third party support (IFTTT etc)
Netatmo has IFTTT to work with dot/echo surely?
#9
jrw
nitro228
Netatmo or nest? I think the nest looks nicer and seems to have more third party support (IFTTT etc)
Netatmo has IFTTT to work with dot/echo surely?

Netatmo. The company I work for fits it with every new heating system. We used to fit Tado but had installation problems with some Tado and switched to Netatmo.


Edited By: rsl1uk on Sep 17, 2016 08:59
1 Like #10
jrw
Not sure hot water control is necessary. Lot of people now have combi boilers
I have a standard boiler with a tank and hot water just comes on twice a day and if im away I turn it off. Water stays warm for 48 hours in tank anyway so coming on twice a day probably only burns for around 5 min if it's not been used just to top the temperature up.

For me personally, if I'm spending approx £150 I want a kit that will cater for my whole system without having to keep effectively two programmers in order to control heating and hot water.

Not taking anything away from the deal though, If I had a combi I'd be all over this.
#11
nbgrobbo
shalton
I have the netamo. It is good.
Great review. Thanks. ;)

Stethorn reckons his is amazing, now I don't know who to believe :(
#12
horsey
nbgrobbo
shalton
I have the netamo. It is good.
Great review. Thanks. ;)
Stethorn reckons his is amazing, now I don't know who to believe :(
Doesn't do hot water water or geolocation, and my Tado v1 has let me down just once when I was an early adopter and they upgraded their cloud infrastructure. Hasn't skipped a beat since, and despite offers to update to the latest version for free I've not taken them up because mine has a remote temperature sensor which is optional with later models.
1 Like #13
The worst thing to do is to constantly be altering the temperature of a heating system. So the need to link voice control to the system has few practical benefits, and is a gimmick for the majority.
2 Likes #14
No homekit support in Nest. No buy.
#15
nitro228
Netatmo or nest? I think the nest looks nicer and seems to have more third party support (IFTTT etc)

Some one told me Nest on another recent Amazon thread think it was the Amazon Echo thread.
banned 2 Likes #16
Waldolf
The worst thing to do is to constantly be altering the temperature of a heating system. So the need to link voice control to the system has few practical benefits, and is a gimmick for the majority.

Really. Why?

Don't get me wrong I have a Hive system which allows me to preset X amount of changes per day to thermostat setting and can't think of a usage beyond the message I already receive when I leave my home or when I'm 5 miles from home of what the current status is with my heating. I therefore do see no point in Amazon dot for heating, but I can't fathom out why you would consider it to be 'bad'.

Edited By: cchopps on Sep 18, 2016 13:16
#17
I intend to buy into either the Amazon Echo/Dot or Google Home system and am currently renovating an old house with the intention of having multiple zones for the heating and was wondering which smart thermostat to go for. Does this Netatmo support multi-zone systems?
#18
Is fitting this a DIY job or does it need any sort of professional installation? I have a combi boiler with one of these battery operated thermostats on the wall.

Edited By: Aiadi on Sep 18, 2016 14:00
#19
Does this work with smart radiator valves?
I'm not sure I see the point in going 'smart' unless you do it properly and control each room, or zone...
Does any system support smart trv's AND thermostat, and Alexa? oh, and ITTT...?
1 Like #20
Aiadi
Is fitting this a DIY job or does it need any sort of professional installation? I have a combi boiler with one of these battery operated thermostats on the wall.

I just replaced the battery operated one, used the same wires, took me about 40minutes, only so long as ours was all wired in with black wiring, took a while to figure out what was what!
#21
Waldolf
The worst thing to do is to constantly be altering the temperature of a heating system. So the need to link voice control to the system has few practical benefits, and is a gimmick for the majority.


This makes no sense to me? The heating is constantly turning on and off in winter to maintain the set temperature, so what difference does it make by altering this by a couple of degrees?
1 Like #22
Aiadi
Is fitting this a DIY job or does it need any sort of professional installation? I have a combi boiler with one of these battery operated thermostats on the wall.


You can do it yourself easy. Just follow the instructions and take notes of where the current wires are plugged in to make it easier. I did our combi boiler a year back and tbh it was one of the easiest diy projects I did! BTW netatmo is great, haven't had any problems and works just like it should.
#23
Want? Need? Desire? damn. preordered the Echo but do I need a Netatmo? it is such a good deal but not sure I need a Dot and a Netatmo. I hate deals like this.... my wallet needs some ice cold deals.
#24
Sid Harper
Or in my case tado which also does geolocation and switches on the heating when it knows people are on their way home. I never touch the settings now - it just works at maximum efficiency. I'm not sure any others manage that quite as well.
It does the water on a schedule.
I've never really understood the need to have heating and water control at your fingertips except on rare occasions when it's suddenly too cold or the tank runs out or something.

Unless you are zoning your heating with summat like the Evohome, this claim simply isn't true.
#25
New systems are pretty complicated I can't imagine it's plug and play setting these up with an existing system surely one for your heating engineer unless you are very competent or a very simple system. I just had a system boiler put in with two zones motorised gate valves and a megaflow it came with a couple of wifi room.thermostats and you can control it from your phone tablet etc anywhere. These look cool not really sure what extra they bring to table apart from looking pretty.
#26
New systems are pretty complicated I can't imagine it's plug and play setting these up with an existing system surely one for your heating engineer unless you are very competent or a very simple system. I just had a system boiler put in with two zones motorised gate valves and a megaflow it came with a couple of wifi room.thermostats and you can control it from your phone tablet etc anywhere. These look cool not really sure what extra they bring to table apart from looking pretty.
#27
bellboys
Sid Harper
Or in my case tado which also does geolocation and switches on the heating when it knows people are on their way home. I never touch the settings now - it just works at maximum efficiency. I'm not sure any others manage that quite as well.
It does the water on a schedule.
I've never really understood the need to have heating and water control at your fingertips except on rare occasions when it's suddenly too cold or the tank runs out or something.
Unless you are zoning your heating with summat like the Evohome, this claim simply isn't true.
Context - here we're talking about single 'stat operating the system to be on/off. I also have valves for the rooms (and when I get the opportunity I will zone it off too). Point is, IF the house needs heating AND someone is going to be home THEN it will warm it up otherwise it will not. I can adjust the heating from my phone just like the others, but not sure which of them build up intelligence on how long my commute is and efficiency of warming up my home (based on a single temperature at one place in my house like most traditional heating systems) to have it how I want it for when I get there.
#28
Sid Harper
bellboys
Sid Harper
Or in my case tado which also does geolocation and switches on the heating when it knows people are on their way home. I never touch the settings now - it just works at maximum efficiency. I'm not sure any others manage that quite as well.
It does the water on a schedule.
I've never really understood the need to have heating and water control at your fingertips except on rare occasions when it's suddenly too cold or the tank runs out or something.
Unless you are zoning your heating with summat like the Evohome, this claim simply isn't true.
Context - here we're talking about single 'stat operating the system to be on/off. I also have valves for the rooms (and when I get the opportunity I will zone it off too). Point is, IF the house needs heating AND someone is going to be home THEN it will warm it up otherwise it will not. I can adjust the heating from my phone just like the others, but not sure which of them build up intelligence on how long my commute is and efficiency of warming up my home (based on a single temperature at one place in my house like most traditional heating systems) to have it how I want it for when I get there.

But the fact remains you still basically have a whole house on or all house off heating switch, it's just a bit more technical/'gadgety'. The huge flaw in your heating control remains. It's akin to having one light switch in your house. Who in their right mind would do that? :(


Edited By: bellboys on Sep 18, 2016 23:57
#29
bellboys
Sid Harper
bellboys
Sid Harper
Or in my case tado which also does geolocation and switches on the heating when it knows people are on their way home. I never touch the settings now - it just works at maximum efficiency. I'm not sure any others manage that quite as well.
It does the water on a schedule.
I've never really understood the need to have heating and water control at your fingertips except on rare occasions when it's suddenly too cold or the tank runs out or something.
Unless you are zoning your heating with summat like the Evohome, this claim simply isn't true.
Context - here we're talking about single 'stat operating the system to be on/off. I also have valves for the rooms (and when I get the opportunity I will zone it off too). Point is, IF the house needs heating AND someone is going to be home THEN it will warm it up otherwise it will not. I can adjust the heating from my phone just like the others, but not sure which of them build up intelligence on how long my commute is and efficiency of warming up my home (based on a single temperature at one place in my house like most traditional heating systems) to have it how I want it for when I get there.
But the fact remains you still basically have a whole house on or all house off heating switch, it's just a bit more technical/'gadgety'. The huge flaw in your heating control remains. It's akin to having one light switch in your house. Who in their right mind would do that? :(
As a purist, I agree. A buddy of mine just had his house gutted and redone and has a separate zone for every room. That's ideal.

Most of us don't have that luxury. I will look to zone off upstairs and downstairs at some point (feasible), but what I wanted was to have a smarter control over when the boiler comes on and off over just timers. Believe it or not, timers are what the majority of UK households with central heating have!

The ability to control things at will from a distance is a first step to being more efficient. Going more granular, you go to each room (which, if you can't zone every room off separately, is best done using individual thermostats - as I have).

I'm not sure what the point you are arguing here is - in the real world, doing a retrofit improves efficiency. In my case, I think the best efficiency is when it knows when I or my other half are on our way home. If the house isn't cold, or we are away on hols, it doesn't heat.
#30
Sid Harper
horsey
nbgrobbo
shalton
I have the netamo. It is good.
Great review. Thanks. ;)
Stethorn reckons his is amazing, now I don't know who to believe :(
Doesn't do hot water water or geolocation, and my Tado v1 has let me down just once when I was an early adopter and they upgraded their cloud infrastructure. Hasn't skipped a beat since, and despite offers to update to the latest version for free I've not taken them up because mine has a remote temperature sensor which is optional with later models.

Lucky if they're actually offering you a free upgrade. They're giving me a 20℅ discount off the new model and that's only after I post my original V1 in.
#31
I keep looking at varying ones of the smart controls, I currently have the Honeywell wireless one (its not smart) my only issue is placement of the controller.

Living room has a log stove so tends to be warm all winter so place the controller in there or on the landing is a no no it would never trip.

Kitchen again tends to be quiet a warm room. only place I can think of is the dining room but that tends to warm up quicker than the bedrooms as its an extension. All rads have trv's but wouldn't combat the issue of rooms heating at different rates?

is the above portable?
#32
tafarrant
I keep looking at varying ones of the smart controls, I currently have the Honeywell wireless one (its not smart) my only issue is placement of the controller.
Living room has a log stove so tends to be warm all winter so place the controller in there or on the landing is a no no it would never trip.
Kitchen again tends to be quiet a warm room. only place I can think of is the dining room but that tends to warm up quicker than the bedrooms as its an extension. All rads have trv's but wouldn't combat the issue of rooms heating at different rates?
is the above portable?


Yes it is, you just wire the relay directly to the boiler instead of the thermostat.
#33
shalton
I have the netamo. It is good.

Yes, but is it as good as the Netatmo? I'm really tired of those cheap Chinese wannabe fakes.
#34
OK so if the netatmo is 83 quid at John Lewis... and the echo is 50. doesn't that make this a bad deal? am I missing something genuinely
#35
singy21
OK so if the netatmo is 83 quid at John Lewis... and the echo is 50. doesn't that make this a bad deal? am I missing something genuinely

Link? says £150 for me
#36
sprite127594
singy21
OK so if the netatmo is 83 quid at John Lewis... and the echo is 50. doesn't that make this a bad deal? am I missing something genuinely
Link? says £150 for me

Sorry my bad its a way old link on here, Iv pre-ordered this but having seen that the netatmo has been sold so much cheaper has made me think this is an ok price. but nothing more.
#37
singy21
sprite127594
singy21
OK so if the netatmo is 83 quid at John Lewis... and the echo is 50. doesn't that make this a bad deal? am I missing something genuinely
Link? says £150 for me
Sorry my bad its a way old link on here, Iv pre-ordered this but having seen that the netatmo has been sold so much cheaper has made me think this is an ok price. but nothing more.

Cheapest it's been on Amazon seems to be £109. I have the Dot pre ordered but I might go for this. I have Hue lights and thinking I might as well have the heating on voice command as well.
All I need to do then is decorate my living room to look like the enterprise bridge. *HEATING ON FULL POWER SCOTTTTTY"
1 Like #38
bilbob
Does this work with smart radiator valves?
I'm not sure I see the point in going 'smart' unless you do it properly and control each room, or zone...
Does any system support smart trv's AND thermostat, and Alexa? oh, and ITTT...?


Netatmo are releasing smart radiator valves by the end of this year to go with the smart thermostat. They look very nice. RRP to be £60.
1 Like #39
p9dyl
bilbob
Does this work with smart radiator valves?
I'm not sure I see the point in going 'smart' unless you do it properly and control each room, or zone...
Does any system support smart trv's AND thermostat, and Alexa? oh, and ITTT...?
Netatmo are releasing smart radiator valves by the end of this year to go with the smart thermostat. They look very nice. RRP to be £60.
Good spot, cheers.
Looking into them now...
#40
Looks like I missed this :( Sold out, or no longer available.

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