Netgear Ready Nas NV+ 4 Bay Gigabit Desktop Network Storage - No Disks £258.30 @ Amazon - HotUKDeals
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Excellent NAS - X-Raid scalable - pretty quick network throughput - various media services - DNLA compliant.

RND4000 - can add up to 4 x 2TB disks

Usual Price is around £400! (although Pixmania have it for £314)

18 left in stock - 15:25 9th June
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#1
This always make me laugh on Amazon

>Gift-wrap available.

Look at what I have bought you for your birthday dear - a NAS box
#2
at first i miss read this as "big gay desktop"
#3
I have one of these and they are superb. I highly recommend it. Great price, I am tempted to buy a second :)
#4
I has 8tb of the highest quality HD pr0nography, all available via my home network - yay!
#5
anewman
I has 8tb of the highest quality HD pr0nography, all available via my home network - yay!


+1
#6
anewman
I has 8tb of the highest quality HD pr0nography, all available via my home network - yay!


Whoa - I didn't realise this came with it..... I guess I'll have to edit my post :p
#7
Ordered thanks.

Heat and rep given and I dont often do that.

Icing on cake would be to know if the free drive offer was still on this product, or was that WD?

Off to find out what drives it likes pushed into it. :-)
http://www.readynas.com/?page_id=82
#8
BritBrat
Icing on cake would be to know if the free drive offer was still on this product, or was that WD?

Netgear's current free drive promotions only apply to the ReadyNas Duo and NVX models unfortunately :|
#9
It's quite an old model now. PC Pro reviewed it back in Feb 2008. Speeds were supposed to be "respectable" but not great. Two+ years is quite a while in NAS technology (or any). The most recent Amazon review for it is nearly a year old.
#10
A cheaper DIY option would be an atom motherboard (with integrated RAID - ASROCK 330ION?) or with a RAID card in an old/cheap case. The £50 barebones re-badged Dell which was on HUKD would've worked a treat but i don't think it has a gigabit network onboard.
#11
guv

I would quite like to just run an atom machine (for energy reasons), but I doubt I could build something that could handle lots of internal drives... unless you know different (and doesnt cost a fortune!)


I use an ASrock 330Ion motherboard which has 4 SATA + 2 eSATA (effectively 6 SATA if you don't mind the cables going back in to your case). Or get a 6channel SATA card off eBay.
#12
guv
Case? Other details?
Ta


If it's not out on display then an old beige box out of a skip!
freeNAS for the OS but the atom + 2 gig runs ubuntu server fine.

EDIT: i mean this http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1213/1/
It's overkill as it has a decent graphic onboard.
#13
tempted to go for this....
how loud is it?


The Definitive Guide to the ReadyNAS NV+
http://www.readynas.com/?page_id=193
#14
They're not noisy at all tbh I got two of these for AV use and had Rsync back one up to the other twice a day had one installed in one building and the other on the other side of the complex in another building.

Upgrade the RAM to 2GB and you notice a performance increase and if you telnet into it and turn traffic control on that speeds things up a lot too. These might be a few years old but worth every penny tbh I doubt "modern" NAS's really offer a lot more other than things like itunes and bit torrent servers and this already has those anyway

Have they really changed them to support 2TB disks when I got mine they said 1TB max hope so that's excellent
#15
Yes technology has moved on a fair bit since this was released, but the latest model are far more expensive and most home users would not use the features e.g. iSCSI etc. What the ReadyNas does, it does very well and is rock solid, thats really what you are paying for (it is also rather small and looks great). The XRaid system is very good and allows you to start with 2 drives and then dynamically expand the raid array by adding disks at a later date e.g. you can go from a 2 disk mirror and then automatically go to 3 disc raid 5. The hard drives are hot pluggable so you can replace a failed drive or add more without shutting dow etc. Check out [url]www.readynas.com[/url] for community.
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Rich44
They're not noisy at all tbh I got two of these for AV use and had Rsync back one up to the other twice a day had one installed in one building and the other on the other side of the complex in another building.

Upgrade the RAM to 2GB and you notice a performance increase and if you telnet into it and turn traffic control on that speeds things up a lot too. These might be a few years old but worth every penny tbh I doubt "modern" NAS's really offer a lot more other than things like itunes and bit torrent servers and this already has those anyway

Have they really changed them to support 2TB disks when I got mine they said 1TB max hope so that's excellent


Check out http://www.readynas.com/?page_id=82 for hardware compatibility list. 2TB drives supported
#17
How does it compare to this
#18
ARGH. I bought the duo last week....... I would definitely have had this instead.
#19
guv
Case? Other details?

I do agree with you that a DIY is a better way to go... just not sure on the options out there and certainly would prefer an Atom with low power usage.

Ta

Edit: Is this what you mean? Where do the drives go if it is?



I use a chenbro hotswap x4 bay mini-itx case. very nice.
#20
... 300watt PSU and not the 65watt the atom board can get away with! Or am I not understanding this?
Ignoring efficiency factors, don't forget that the 300W is the maximum power. If the system draws 50W that's what it draws whether the PSU can supply more. A 300W PSU doesn't use 300W 24/7.

guv
Is it this?

So £100 for a mother board and £182 for a case. So already way past the price of this and CPU and Ram still needed to be added!

Or am I missing something here?


The £100 mobo is mine and is overkill, as stated. His £182 case is overkill (but very nice!).
Do you need gigabit networking or planning on using wireless?
If not gigabit then the £50 barebones + RAID card + wireless dongle + drives would be a cheap option.
By the sounds of your questions (no offence intended), an off the shelf product like this NAS box might be more up your street. My suggest was more geared towards someone wanting a project which would be cheaper but definitely more time consuming.


EDIT: A lot would depend on the data being stored. A music collection vs. HD movie streaming for example
#21
i cant seem to find cpu specs on this

anyone know?
#22
A big plus point for the ReadyNas is the hardware raid. The raid card for the homemade setup would be most likely software based, unless you're going to pay a couple of hundred quid for a proper hardware raid card.

The homemade solutions with an old pc while slightly cheaper, will be less efficient to run unless you go down the mini-itx route. But the mini-itx route would be initially more expensive to buy with better running costs (but still not as efficient as the ReadyNas).

Another benefit of the ReadyNas would be looks, the ReadyNas wouldn't look out of place in your living room for instance. To acheive a similar size/look you would need to purchase the before mentioned Chenbro case would costs upwards of £180. Then the cost of RAID card, cpu, memory and motherboard need to be added.

A final point, a home built nas would need an addition HD (admittedly only a small capacity one) for the Operating system, over and above your data HDs. To match the HD capacity of the ReadyNas NV+, you would need a motherboard with 5 SATA ports, (1 for OS, 4 for RAID array).

piginabox
... 300watt PSU and not the 65watt the atom board can get away with! Or am I not understanding this?
Ignoring efficiency factors, don't forget that the 300W is the maximum power. If the system draws 50W that's what it draws whether the PSU can supply more. A 300W PSU doesn't use 300W 24/7.



The £100 mobo is mine and is overkill, as stated. His £182 case is overkill (but very nice!).
Do you need gigabit networking or planning on using wireless?
If not gigabit then the £50 barebones + RAID card + wireless dongle + drives would be a cheap option.
By the sounds of your questions (no offence intended), an off the shelf product like this NAS box might be more up your street. My suggest was more geared towards someone wanting a project which would be cheaper but definitely more time consuming.


EDIT: A lot would depend on the data being stored. A music collection vs. HD movie streaming for example
#23
guv
Ah, OK. I thought there would be a fair bit on the ...
SNIP
... than most. If the off the shelf option was the best route, I'd take it. I have a feeling it isnt. (BTW, the server itself will NOT be used as a PC to work on.) Lastly... what it looks like isnt an issue. Its stuck in the games / PC room, so even noise doesnt matter really.


I've been waiting for mATX atom motherboards appear for the extra expansion. The ECS one
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/images/Products/large/945GCD-M_580_2a.jpg
looks pretty good.
#24
Now £314
#25
guv
Is it this?

So £100 for a mother board and £182 for a case. So already way past the price of this and CPU and Ram still needed to be added!

Or am I missing something here?


Exactly..... (i got mine cheap for 75 pounds)

Anyhow, get this case for 182 (as you have found it) or its little brother (4bays but not hotswapable) for 120 and an Atom M-ITX motherboard and ram for about (120 pounds more). Its going to be much more powerful than any NAS you can currently buy.
#26
monsteria
Exactly..... (i got mine cheap for 75 pounds)

Anyhow, get this case for 182 (as you have found it) or its little brother (4bays but not hotswapable) for 120 and an Atom M-ITX motherboard and ram for about (120 pounds more). Its going to be much more powerful than any NAS you can currently buy.


This was the route I was going to consider, but I couldn't find a motherboard with 5 SATA ports, and with RAID 5 supported by the motherboard chipset. I wanted RAID 5 as this would allow redundancy with minimum disk space loss.

Then I considered a RAID card (so that I was free to choose any mini-itx board), but I read so many scare stories using the £30-40 RAID cards, and advised to go with a proper hardware RAID card at around £200. That it immediately put me off the home build route.
#27
berti
Then I considered a RAID card (so that I was free to choose any mini-itx board), but I read so many scare stories using the £30-40 RAID cards, and advised to go with a proper hardware RAID card at around £200. That it immediately put me off the home build route.


I use Dell CERC's. Usually go on eBay for <£80 maybe less now (i got mine ones last year).
6-SATA Adaptec re-branded. PCI-X but of course works fine in PCI slot. Used in Dell's servers so not mickeymouse.

One on eBay with no bids at £39.99 + P&P at the moment (no affiliation).
#28
edgeone
Check out http://www.readynas.com/?page_id=82 for hardware compatibility list. 2TB drives supported


Nice probably because at the time 1TB were bleeding edge, nice to know though have some rep for the link
#29
guv

So I guess I could just plonk this in the dell PC Im currently using and get round the IDE / USB issue I currently have? Then when prices drop for Atom atx MB, exchange the motherboard over.

My only concern is how to best get the 2TB of data over to the new 2TB drives Id buy for the job on this WHS.


Yes to plonking it in current setup.
Aren't they currently on USB external drives? Setup CERC and new drives and copy over from USB?
#30
guv
There is a problem with your suggestion!

the drives are formatted under WHS to appear as one drive. I would be able to copy the data over onto the "new" sata HDs, but in order for them to become Server drives, they would have to be formatted and the data transfered would be lost. I can only see this working if I transfered to a couple of spare USB drives, then removing the current USB drives, adding the new SATA, format, then transferring to the Server SATA drives from the "borrowed" drives used to transfer. Complicated for something that should be straight forward!

BTW will this SATA adapter (a) make the read/write speads similar to if it were SATA on the motherboard? And will I see a big improvement over the current USB drive speeds? The reason I ask this, is that whilst I am able to stream HD, transfering data to the drives seems sooooo slow.


Er... good luck? :whistling:
#31
edgeone
Now £314


aagh. snooze you lose :(
#32
Anyone comment on whether this has fans, if so how often they run and how noisy it is?
#33
It has a fan, as for noise I have not had it deliverd but it is on way.

I did read they had a patch for those that change fan.
#34
If you misssed it maybe this will help:

NETGEAR RND4000-100EUS ReadyNAS Storage Unit
£ 244 [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Inc. VAT[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]pixmania.co.uk[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]Nearly up and running, at first fan was very noisy like a plane taking off but after the initial install it is very quite.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]Now waiting for the raid to finnish but that may take all night as I have 2 X 2TB drives installed.[/FONT]

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