Netgear ReadyNAS Duo 2TB (+ second free 2TB after mail-in) Gigabit Network Storage - free n/d delivery - 3% TCB/Quidco - £259.99 @ Expansys - HotUKDeals
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This deal is similar to the current deal of the empty enclosure for £119.97
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/netgear-rnd2000-readynas-duo-2-bay-/735486

However as most people will want to buy the additional storage anyway 4TB of space for an extra £140 seems worth posting a separate deal to me.

The form for the free drive comes from here - http://www.netgear.co.uk/freedrive.php and is valid until 30th September 2010

Free next day delivery too.

Also 3% cashback from Top CashBack & Quidco
http://www.topcashback.co.uk/search/merchants/?search=expansys
http://www.quidco.com/expansys-uk/
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#2
Voted hot ! It's an excellent price for a 4TB NAS. They don't have many left though...
#3
I got one of these last month, but took me a while to find stock under £300. The 2nd harddrive from Netgear about 2 weeks after the claim form went in. This also has a print server built in, good piece of kit.

Edited By: thejap on Aug 10, 2010 11:46: Spelling error
#4
The only thing I would say is that if you go for the empty enclosure at £119.97 you can populate the drive with the HDs of your choice. Any idea what HD ships with this? But you're right once you've factored in the free 500GB HD there is not a lot of difference in overall cost. I just prefer the option of choosing my own HDs - I've had some rubbish ones in the past... Still hot mind
#5
The drives that Netgear supply are Seagate Barracuda.
#6
Pity they all use Netgear's own disk Formatting.. Cant use NTFS etc...
#7
mrpipster
Pity they all use Netgear's own disk Formatting.. Cant use NTFS etc...

How does this proprietary disk formatting affect its usage? Serious question, I assume it is transparent and file copying is unaffected? Does it offer performance enhancements?
#8
On the form it says if it's purchased from an authorised reseller. Does expansys definitely count? Is there a list of resellers somewhere. I don't want to purchase and then have them turn down my claim for the free drive.
#9
stubed
On the form it says if it's purchased from an authorised reseller. Does expansys definitely count? Is there a list of resellers somewhere. I don't want to purchase and then have them turn down my claim for the free drive.


I've sent them an email to confirm 100% but they are listed on the site: http://www.netgear.co.uk/find_netgear_reseller.php?pc=M15+6SZ&res=1

So I'd say its pretty certain.
#10
mikepegg
stubed
On the form it says if it's purchased from an authorised reseller. Does expansys definitely count? Is there a list of resellers somewhere. I don't want to purchase and then have them turn down my claim for the free drive.


I've sent them an email to confirm 100% but they are listed on the site: http://www.netgear.co.uk/find_netgear_reseller.php?pc=M15+6SZ&res=1

So I'd say its pretty certain.

Good find. I emailed Netgear too using the ukpromotions email address but think I'll order now anyway. Can always cancel I suppose.
#11
poinsy
mrpipster
Pity they all use Netgear's own disk Formatting.. Cant use NTFS etc...

How does this proprietary disk formatting affect its usage? Serious question, I assume it is transparent and file copying is unaffected? Does it offer performance enhancements?


The disk format is ext3 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3 . Unsurprising as it is effectively a Linux box, everything seems compatible as you'd expect http://www.readynas.com/?p=177#Features
#12
They seem to be doing a lot of these rebates, this unit must be EOL soon and due for replacement? It's been around for 2 years or so?
#13
scrooge
They seem to be doing a lot of these rebates, this unit must be EOL soon and due for replacement? It's been around for 2 years or so?


Still a brilliant box though
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Some things I need to point out due to much experience with nas's which might help some people:

First point: With two bay nas's you can experience a problem when you want to upgrade one of the hd's. 1) If using jbod (not recommended) - you cannot without distroying data (or first copying it off, upgrading hd, plugging if-even-possible the disks in to another machine, and copying back). 2) if using raid 1 (mirroring) this is not always possible, as sometimes nas's dont allow mirroring between a smaller disk and a larger one. technically it is possible if the system uses lvm for partitioning, but most don't have the intelligence to allow it. 3) if using raid 0 (striping) you cannot really without tricky dicky work and another linux box.

Second point: It far better to invest in as much space as possible at the beginning because upgrading hds in the future generally means you need to copy off the data somewhere, replace both hd's then copy it back on. This means having additional spare space to store it. Though I must add if you are familiar with linux and the nas uses lvm or software raid, you can generally can mount the old hd's in a linux machine, put the new disks in the nas, and copy the data back that way but you cannot reliably assume this is possible without researching it well before hand.

Third point: It is not advised to use jbod or raid 0 (striping). The reason being is that if one hd dies your data is gone (jbod you can recover to an extent some data if you are mega ultra super tech linux savvy). With raid 1 (mirroring) you at least have a backup - the downside is that with a 2 bay nas is that you halve your usable space.

Fourth point: with a 2 bay nas i generally receommend having each hd setup as different shares. this way you get the full 4tb of space, and if one disk fails you only loose 2tb of data, and it is less you need to copy off when you want to upgrade one hd. Downside is that you get no data resiliency, relying on only 1 hd dying at any point in time,

Fifth point: It is generally better practice to get different hd's types/models/makes for a nas. the reason being is that faults from the same batch of hd's is more likely, so when one hd fails there is a higher chance of the other matching hd dying soonish.

It all depends on your situation and need for protecting your data.
#15
ascen
Some things I need to point out due to much experience with nas's which might help some people:First point: With two bay nas's you can experience a problem when you want to upgrade one of the hd's. 1) If using jbod (not recommended) - you cannot without distroying data (or first copying it off, upgrading hd, plugging if-even-possible the disks in to another machine, and copying back). 2) if using raid 1 (mirroring) this is not always possible, as sometimes nas's dont allow mirroring between a smaller disk and a larger one. technically it is possible if the system uses lvm for partitioning, but most don't have the intelligence to allow it. 3) if using raid 0 (striping) you cannot really without tricky dicky work and another linux box.Second point: It far better to invest in as much space as possible at the beginning because upgrading hds in the future generally means you need to copy off the data somewhere, replace both hd's then copy it back on. This means having additional spare space to store it. Though I must add if you are familiar with linux and the nas uses lvm or software raid, you can generally can mount the old hd's in a linux machine, put the new disks in the nas, and copy the data back that way but you cannot reliably assume this is possible without researching it well before hand.Third point: It is not advised to use jbod or raid 0 (striping). The reason being is that if one hd dies your data is gone (jbod you can recover to an extent some data if you are mega ultra super tech linux savvy). With raid 1 (mirroring) you at least have a backup - the downside is that with a 2 bay nas is that you halve your usable space.Fourth point: with a 2 bay nas i generally receommend having each hd setup as different shares. this way you get the full 4tb of space, and if one disk fails you only loose 2tb of data, and it is less you need to copy off when you want to upgrade one hd. Downside is that you get no data resiliency, relying on only 1 hd dying at any point in time, Fifth point: It is generally better practice to get different hd's types/models/makes for a nas. the reason being is that faults from the same batch of hd's is more likely, so when one hd fails there is a higher chance of the other matching hd dying soonish.It all depends on your situation and need for protecting your data.
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#16
got one of these, you can run nzbget, just drop an nzb file into your monitored folder and the readynas, will download, extract and clean up after itself.
#17
To counter a couple of Ascen's points. I upgrade my ReadyNAS Duo a couple of weeks ago to 2x1Tb Samsung drives. Couldn't save been simpler. Turn off, replace one drive, turn on, wait a day, repeat.

Beware If you are choosing your own 2Tb or even 1Tb drives as not all are supported. Choose quality, commented on drives (checkout the ReadyNAS Forum for comments).

The 2nd drive in a ReadyNAS is Duo is for redundancy. If you put another drivel in it will mirror what is on the first, you will not double your capacity.

The Duo is not the quickest or even the best NAS on the market but it is flexible and has some useful features (iTunes Streamer, DLNA, One button backup,Torrent) and is a good product for the price.

The print server mentioned earlier is just that so you might lose other functionalityeg. scanning, memory card access etc.

Wouldn't agree with choose different drives, just choose good drives.

Just my 2 cents.

Edited By: buelligan on Aug 10, 2010 14:47: .
#18
buelligan
To counter a couple of Ascen's points. I upgrade my ReadyNAS Duo a couple of weeks ago to 2x1Tb Samsung drives. Couldn't save been simpler. Turn off, replace one drive, turn on, wait a day, repeat.

Beware If you are choosing your own 2Tb or even 1Tb drives as not all are supported. Choose quality, commented on drives (checkout the ReadyNAS Forum for comments).

The 2nd drive in a ReadyNAS is Duo is for redundancy. If you put another drivel in it will mirror what is on the first, you will not double your capacity.

The Duo is not the quickest or even the best NAS on the market but it is flexible and has some useful features (iTunes Streamer, DLNA, One button backup,Torrent) and is a good product for the price.

The print server mentioned earlier is just that so you might lose other functionalityeg. scanning, memory card access etc.

Wouldn't agree with choose different drives, just choose good drives.

Just my 2 cents.


Thanks for that - my points were just meant to be general considerations about nas's i should have actually pointed that it. But it depends as i said on the nas whether you are using jbod or which raid (striped or mirrored). It is easier to upgrade when using mirror like you said, but this only applies because this nas supports neatgear xraid. So from what you have explained you have a mirrored setup because the duo is using xraid, the readynas supports expansion through its special xraid (note not all nas's actually do). Many other nas's support jbod (when one hd is full start using the next and make it all look like one big hd to the os), and a choice of mirrored or striped - unlike this nas which is simply a mirrored setup.

xraid has it's weaknesses though. lets assume this situation: 2x500gb (remember mirrored). You can only afford to upgrade one disk at a time, so you want to do: 1x500gb and 1x1TB. After you upgrade, you can only access 500gb until you upgrade the last 500gb disk to 1tb aswell. other nas's allow you to have this configuration and use the unmirrored 500gb as a simple share without redundancy. This means that further expansion needs to be done in pairs like you did to use the full capacity.

The different drives are somewhat of an issue, the most recent example i experienced was in this last month where three hd's from our itunes cluster of xserves (all purchased at the same time) died over a period of a month. The words i used were "more likely" and "higher chance" over differing hds. i've also experienced this problem on a 4 bay nas and a san whereby use of the failed hds and their operating environments were identical as in the failed disks were paired and ran under identical conditions of load and tempreture. it all comes down to mitigating risk, how valuable the data is, and to what extremes you want to protect your self.
#19
excellent price for 4TB NAS
#20
Out of stock? :(
#21
Awesome price.

Thanks for sharing!
#22
No stock - Expired.

Good price though
#23
yeah seems like that cleared out the stock :p

Expired.
#24
What is the difference between Netgear RND2000 and RND2120
#25
Strike X
What is the difference between Netgear RND2000 and RND2120


RND2000 = empty box
RND2150 = 1 x 500GB drive
RND2110 = 1 x 1TB drive
RND2120 = 1 x 2TB drive
#26
mikepegg
The disk format is ext3 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3 . Unsurprising as it is effectively a Linux box, everything seems compatible as you'd expect http://www.readynas.com/?p=177#Features

Cheers mikepegg. That answered my question perfectly. Also, I am still a bit puzzled as to whether I will be able to stream MKV's, either through my PS3 (looks doubtful), or through my WD HDTV.

Also, people are always mentioning BitTorrent; I thought downloading was illegal, or are there legal downloads?
#27
You can stream whatever you want from the Readynas that won't be the issue (the readynas can serve the files up at more than a fast enough rate to handle HD). The more likely bottleneck will be either your network not being up to the task of shifting all that data or your media player not being able to handle the file format. As far as I know the WD HDTV and the PS3 should handle most MKVs.

Bittorrent isn't illegal it's just what you choose to download which might be illegal (there are plenty of perfectly legal non copywrited torrents out there).
#28
I have confirmation from Netgear that Expansys is indeed an authorised reseller. I'm glad I went for one before they went out of stock which is now waiting for my at my local post office!
#29
Don't forget the promo goes 'til end September, plenty of time to restock.
#30
scoopy2scoops
You can stream whatever you want from the Readynas that won't be the issue (the readynas can serve the files up at more than a fast enough rate to handle HD). The more likely bottleneck will be either your network not being up to the task of shifting all that data or your media player not being able to handle the file format. As far as I know the WD HDTV and the PS3 should handle most MKVs.

Bittorrent isn't illegal it's just what you choose to download which might be illegal (there are plenty of perfectly legal non copywrited torrents out there).

Thanks. My network should be fine, all wired :) The WD HDTV definitely handles MKV files, just not sure if I can connect this to a NAS as it has no LAN socket. It has USB, but I am unsure whether the NAS will stream via USB.
#31
Interesting reading:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/streamers-network-media-players/981837-wd-hd-tv-ethernet-connection-nas-does-work.html

I've got a playon HD Mini - not the best user interface but it plays everything that I've thrown at it and has usb and ethernet
#32
scoopy2scoops
Interesting reading:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/streamers-network-media-players/981837-wd-hd-tv-ethernet-connection-nas-does-work.html


I've got a playon HD Mini - not the best user interface but it plays everything that I've thrown at it and has usb and ethernet

Hmmm, looks promising. My initial concern is that you may need to install drivers for this adapter, but I'll read on, thanks.

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