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This dual drive NAS is available at a bargain price at Misco right now - only two months ago these were available elsewhere at £179 and got heat!

- Ultra small form factor high performance 2 bay home NAS with Gigabit connectivity
- Never lose data due to drive failure by simply adding a second drive.
- X-RAID technology - Hot swap drives easily to add capacity when you need it, without any down time.
- Dedicated storage processor and hardware RAID for class leading read/write performance.
- Full backup capability - Included Shadow for ReadyNAS software allows constant data backup of PC's and Macs.
- Full Media server - stream movies, music and photos to any network capable media player including Xbox360, PS3 etc.
- Apple iTunes 7 servers - iPods, iPhones, PCs or Macs running the iTunes client can access the shared music library stored on the ReadyNAS Duo.
- Share Photos - ReadyNAS Photos allows you to share your pictures with friends and family across the internet to anywhere in the world.
- Built-in BitTorrent Client - Download straight into ReadyNAS Duo without a PC being switched on.
- Multifunction USB ports - Connect USB drives and share printers through 3 fast USB ports.
- Access stored content anywhere via the Internet
- Low power consumption - draws less than 10% of the power of an average PC.

*Add a second hard drive for protection from hard drive failure. ReadyNAS Duo automatically switches to RAID1 mirroring.
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#1
http://img.misco.co.uk/images/uploadedimages/large/20090402160339.jpg
#2
you send the barcode (UPC) to netgear and they send the harddrive out
#3
voted hot, i am looking for a NAS but i havent much clue about whats good ect. does anyone know if this will work with popcorn hour?

thanks
#4
I got one of these when the 500GB disk offer was ending on the 30th June. Nice little box and it has allowed me to let my main PC to suspend and save power as I now have this running my download apps like nbzget \ bittorrent. Note though that I have populated mine with the 1.5TB Seagate disks that are supported by Netgear and one of them is showing relocated sector errors. This is a known issue with those disks within this NAS or a normal desktop. Think I'm going to take the disk back and get it swapped out as the reason I bought this was to protect my data.

Have a look over here for more info .... http://www.readynas.com/

Rob
#5
katya1971
voted hot, i am looking for a NAS but i havent much clue about whats good ect. does anyone know if this will work with popcorn hour?

thanks


it runs a version of twonkyserver which i run on my pc and works fine with popcorn hour, so should do
#6
Got this drive and it is amazing had no problems purchased a 1tb drive for it and got the free 500GB drive within a week of sending off the barcode , however check the offer is still on as it was meant to end 30th June ,But this is a good deal with or without
#7
looks like the deal has been extended
'TERMS & CONDITIONS: The RND2000-100UKS must be purchased to qualify for the FREE 500GB Hard Drive. Promotion begins 1st April 2009 and ends on 31st July 2009. Claims must be submitted within 30 days of the purchase date. Offer valid on purchase of specified product(s) only. All purchases are subject to verification by NETGEAR. NETGEAR reserves the right to alter, amend or cancel this promotion without notice. Submit the completed claim form along with a copy of your your authorised reseller invoice and the original UPC code cut from product package. Requests from PO boxes not accepted. Requests with invalid or undeliverable mailing addresses will be denied. This offer cannot be combined with any other NETGEAR promotional offer. This offer is valid in the UK only. Make and keep copies of all materials submitted. Originals become NETGEAR’s property and will not be returned. Please allow up to 2 weeks to receive promotional item. NETGEAR is not responsible for late, lost, damaged, or misdirected mail. This offer is no longer valid if not fully redeemed within 30 days from the close of the promotion period. To follow-up on promotion status, email [email protected]">[email protected].'

taken from http://www.netgear.co.uk/common/pdfs/ReadyNAS_Promo_Q209__Claim_Form.pdf
#8
im really tempted by this , especially if i can put 1tb drives into it. as i have a 1 tb external my book currently running acronis home but its quite high on usage when it runs(maybe i have it set up incorrect) however i dont now have any drives for storage left as acronis is using it all .
#9
I bought one of these a while back, love it to bits, lets you download torrent files directly without the need for your PC to be switched on.

I have two Samsung F1 TB drives and they work great but you need to check the Netgear website as they don't just work with any drive.

Sets up it's own version of RAID so if you put two drives in they only work in mirror, which is great for backup but two 500GB drives will not result in 1000GB.

I highly recommend this and paid around £195 about 4 months ago so this is a great price especially with the free 500GB drive.
#10
Can this spit files out to a PS3 / Xbox 360?
#11
Seems to be a bit missing from the Low power statement

Low power consumption – only draws 12w in standby, around one tenth the consumption of an average PC


Power consumption: 35W typical (with 2 x 500 GB disks)


Its quite possible to get close to this units consumption with a Sempron LE 1250 45W albeit underclocked&volted on frugal 740G/760G motherboard fed by a PicoPSU.
#12
Dazzla
Can this spit files out to a PS3 / Xbox 360?


Yes it can ...

- Full Media server - stream movies, music and photos to any network capable media player including Xbox360, PS3 etc.

It's DNLA compliant just make sure you are on the latest firmware and ReadyDNLA installed .... http://www.readynas.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=27946
#13
Does anyone have experience of streaming HD video (MKV) files from this box?

I have had a bad experience with the WD MyBook previously and want to make sure that this has the bandwidth output to stream over a normal 100 Mbps network (200 Mbps homeplugs)
#14
This may seem a stupid question but does anyone know if you and add wireless to the NAS so it does not have to be directly plugged into a router or the internet? i.e. install drivers or use a plug and play wireless dongle??

Cheers
#15
Just had a look at the PDF that trouty00 attached and it looks like the offer is on until the 30th September from the small print at the bottom.

Also its slightly cheaper here (£147.57) but I dont know much about LambdaTek as a retailer.....

http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase9.4&prodID=B145659

EDIT: Sorry, I didnt bring into account the postage costs or the fact that there is Quidco for Misco so I have just ordered from Misco. Thanks OP
#16
You can't make the ReadyNAS itself 'wireless', but why would you want to?

Totally unnecessary. Just put it on a wired network from your router, and have a wireless access point on the network so that your wireless computers can use it. You really don't want network storage and streaming over wireless, though. It will suuuuuuck.

I bought one of these for about £4 more at ebuyer about ten days ago. Sent in the paperwork for the free hard drive, and I received the hard drive within seven days.

Excellent system.

I'm going to echo what an earlier poster wrote, though...

I populated the ReadyNAS with a pair of the Seagate 'approved' 1.5TB drives which I got at a decent price, with quidco, and 3Discount from cDiscount, my new favourite supplier.

Unfortunately both drives arrived borked. One just grinds, no matter what pooter device its plugged into. The other clicks away (clicking being the operative noise), can be recognised, but the initialisation of the drive projects at 13 plus hours estimated, before failing after 20 minutes reporting a 'bad drive.' The presence of a 'bad drive' in the system in this regard has had some interesting results on the ReadyNAS, but once removed, the lovely free Seagate 500GB runs perfectly, and I have a 1TB external plugged into it too.

Heartily recommend this device and the very generous 'treat' of a free drive to use in the ReadyNAS.

Hot as you like.

Just watch out for the Seagate 1.5TB drives. Yuck.

I don't believe in coincidences, and given the reports on the interweb of shoddy production of these drives, it seems to be following a pattern.

I should also point out that cDiscount's shipping method for these drives was appalling too. They're usually awesome, but these two drives were placed together, unpadded and rattling against each other, in a medium jiffy bag which was put inside a slightly larger jiffy bag and shipped. The drives, of course, rattled around. Not a good way to treat 1.5TB hard drives. Anyway, faults within 14 days (assuming they can be verified) get an instant RMA, so returning isn't an issue so far.

But it IS a shame that these 'approved' drives, even with the latest firmware, seem to be tosh.
#17
how noisy are these units?
#18
It's quieter than the two faulty drives...
#19
An alternative to this great deal is the Edimax NS-2502:

http://www.scan.co.uk/Images/Products/1001597-a.jpg

At £103.03 from Scan with a £42 500gb Samsung ECO green SATAII drive it's about the same price. Probably a better drive than the free one with the Netgear.

This unit doesn't have a print server but supports SATAII and Raid 0 striping as well as the usual torrent, itunes, ftp, and UPnP DNLA stuff.

Mine is extremely quiet with the Samsung drive and incredibly quick using Gigabit LAN. I stuck a 1TB drive in mine and I'm well chuffed at how good it is. Sadly I paid a tad more from Overclock.co.uk a few weeks ago (not impressed with them TBH).
#20
[QUOTE=Wongo]
This unit doesn't have a print server but supports SATAII and Raid 0 striping as well as the usual torrent, itunes, ftp, and UPnP DNLA stuff./QUOTE]

if it's running linux, it won't be long before someone ports a print server to it, nzbget, twonky and so on......
#21
No. It isn't a 'better' option. It might be a 'cheaper' option, but it certainly isn't 'better.'

The Netgear ReadyNAS is a market leading device with a seriously solid track record. To be honest, the 'Edimax' product doesn't even enter into lists of 'comparison' devices alongside the ReadyNAS Duo.

And I'm afraid the Samsung isn't a 'better' drive than the Seagate 500GB that comes as the 'free' drive with the Netgear (by redemption) either. The Samsung Eco's in my experience have been slower altogether. The ReadyNAS is a more robust, more flexible, more complete appliance, and the Seagate 500GB drive that you'll get when you send off is about as good a drive as you'll get, all for a nice tidy price tag.

Remember that the 'average' price on the Edimax comes in at around the price you quote most of the time, along with various offerings from Buffalo and Linksys (and some other Netgear products). They're not the same league, though.
#22
agreed with SampleX, the other option to me is the very basic QNAP TS-109 for around 100 quid from QNAPSTORE, good luck to find one in stock tho :-D
but i just thrown a grand to build an i7 system so no spare money left for NAS,unless theres something cheap like the LaCie one ASDA sold :-D
#23
Good price but not for me, I'm looking for RAID 5

Voted hot though
#24
SampleX
No. It isn't a 'better' option. It might be a 'cheaper' option, but it certainly isn't 'better.'

.


I didn't say it was a 'better' option. I said alternative! And I think you will find reviews about the ECO drives all say how good they are. And I'm not knocking the Netgear, I know it's a solid bit of kit.
#25
Salamanda
Good price but not for me, I'm looking for RAID 5

Voted hot though


I would be intrigued if you found a RAID 5 for this sort of money
#26
Can the drive bays be used individually?

I am thinking of sticking in a 1TB and the free 500GB drive.
#27
Looking to purchase this though concerned its only sata 150 as opposed to my PC's drives running at sata 300. would I be disapointed at the speed drop ? as i intend to use the gig network access (undestanding it does not run at full 1gb) it appears that netgear may have missed a trick here. - perhaps this is why is on offer clearing stock for a new upgraded box ?
any helpful advice welcome
Thansk

On further investigation, found this on Netgear's site "––Compatible with SATA and SATA II HDD" if this is the case I would assume each drive will work at full 300Mbps in raid 1 mode.
#28
ciro
the other option to me is the very basic QNAP TS-109 for around 100 quid from QNAPSTORE, good luck to find one in stock tho :-D
but i just thrown a grand to build an i7 system so no spare money left for NAS,unless theres something cheap like the LaCie one ASDA sold :-D

Why not just spend £50 on an Intel Atom Motherboard, and £50 on a tiny case to put it in ?
You've then got an entire PC for £100, drawing almost no power. Put your choice of operating system on, and it'll do far more than any limited "NAS" box - you can run any applications you wish, and load it up with as many drives as you like, of any type. It's a far more flexible solution, yet it costs less than the average "NAS" !
newsgroupmonkey
I would be intrigued if you found a RAID 5 for this sort of money

...whereas a basic software RAID 5 PCI card for the Atom machine above, would cost you about £10. eBay item 370222609888 will do the trick nicely - but if you go this route, make sure you grab an Atom motherboard with Gigabit LAN onboard, given that you've filled the only PCI slot with a SATA controller :) The Intel D945GCLF2 http://www.kikatek.com/product_info.php?products_id=84758 is a fine option, and comes with a Dual Core Atom.
As above, why bother with a limited "NAS", when a full computer costs less ?
#29
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#30
jethro123
Looking to purchase this though concerned its only sata 150 as opposed to my PC's drives running at sata 300. would I be disapointed at the speed drop ?

There's no speed drop - no modern mechanical Hard Drive can get anywhere near the 1.5Gb/s (around 180MB/s) speed of SATA 1, never mind SATA 2. You'll get somewhere around 50MB/s from an average drive - not even enough to saturate a 100MB/s IDE connection...
jethro123
On further investigation, found this on Netgear's site "––Compatible with SATA and SATA II HDD" if this is the case I would assume each drive will work at full 300Mbps in raid 1 mode.

No - as above, each drive will work as fast as it possibly can ... which is significantly less than the capacity available over the interface :thumbsup:
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fayraz
Can the drive bays be used individually?

I am thinking of sticking in a 1TB and the free 500GB drive.


Yes. You lose the benefit of the RAID features, but in the 'XpandableRAID' mode you can have independent drives.
#32
very tempted by this, been looking on getting a good NAS box at a good price.

heres a review http://www.trustedreviews.com/networking/review/2008/05/05/Netgear-ReadyNAS-Duo/p1
#33
jethro123
Looking to purchase this though concerned its only sata 150 as opposed to my PC's drives running at sata 300. would I be disapointed at the speed drop ? as i intend to use the gig network access (undestanding it does not run at full 1gb) it appears that netgear may have missed a trick here. - perhaps this is why is on offer clearing stock for a new upgraded box ?
any helpful advice welcome
Thansk

On further investigation, found this on Netgear's site "––Compatible with SATA and SATA II HDD" if this is the case I would assume each drive will work at full 300Mbps in raid 1 mode.



Erm. Quite. SATA150/SATA300 is generally a 'disk data transfer' issue rather than a 'hardware that contains hard disks' issue. The ReadyNAS takes SATA and SATAII drives, SATA150 and SATA300 as standard and runs with them better than pretty much any 'domestic' NAS device including WHS and FreeNAS boxes.

As for 'speed drop', this isn't your computer with an internal hard disk. This is a dedicated network storage server. From my own experience it is as fast or faster than any other network storage server, including your PC if you were using it as a network storage server. I'm presuming that you have a network that you want to have a storage server on. If, of course, you're just looking for a quick n' easy backup device for one pooter, get an external hard disk - you won't need to worry about speed for that.

If you have a network that you want to share files to, your computer with a hard disk running and its own speed of operation ceases to be the benchmark until your computer is serving no other purpose than serving files on the network. It's like measuring meters in yards and yards in meters and expecting to find a 1:1.

If you want a dedicated NAS, on a 'domestic' number of hard drives, with the ability to run a print server, an FTP server, remote file access, and plug in additional external hard drives to be shared, you simply won't do better.

As an update and a warning, I just got an apology from cDiscount for the crapped out hard drives that I bought from them to populate the ReadyNAS and while they're very sorry for my inconvenience, they will not be capitulating to my request to repackage replacement hard drives in proper hard drive suitable packaging because, and I quote: "The packaging is consider satisfactory for the purpose of sending this type of product."

Just to reiterate... the 'packaging' assembly of placing two 1.5TB hard drives together in a loose fitting jiffy bag with no additional padding and no foam layering to separate the drives from contact with each other, and then placing the 'loose' package in an even more loose second jiffy bag before sealing it and handing it to a courier with no 'fragile' notification on the package is not only 'considered' by cDiscount, but is 'considered satisfactory' by them.

I've not come across a single credible computer parts supplier in my experience in the IT field who agrees with them on that score.

Great company, good prices, good payment system, let down by incredibly short-sighted thinking.

Guess where I won't be going for my next round of hard drives?
#34
SampleX
I'm going to echo what an earlier poster wrote, though...

I populated the ReadyNAS with a pair of the Seagate 'approved' 1.5TB drives which I got at a decent price, with quidco, and 3Discount from cDiscount, my new favourite supplier.

.....

Just watch out for the Seagate 1.5TB drives. Yuck.

I don't believe in coincidences, and given the reports on the interweb of shoddy production of these drives, it seems to be following a pattern.


Yeah I populated mine with the 1.5TB seagates ...... NetGear seriously need to approve another manufacturers 1.5TB disk as one of my seagates has reallocated sectors 3 times now. I'm not impressed as the drives I'm used to are normally rock solid.

I will take this one back to Novatech in the near future and get a replacement .... which i hope works!

Rob
1 Like #35
Nom
Why not just spend £50 on an Intel Atom Motherboard, and £50 on a tiny case to put it in ?
You've then got an entire PC for £100, drawing almost no power. Put your choice of operating system on, and it'll do far more than any limited "NAS" box - you can run any applications you wish, and load it up with as many drives as you like, of any type. It's a far more flexible solution, yet it costs less than the average "NAS" !

...whereas a basic software RAID 5 PCI card for the Atom machine above, would cost you about £10. eBay item 370222609888 will do the trick nicely - but if you go this route, make sure you grab an Atom motherboard with Gigabit LAN onboard, given that you've filled the only PCI slot with a SATA controller :) The Intel D945GCLF2 http://www.kikatek.com/product_info.php?products_id=84758 is a fine option, and comes with a Dual Core Atom.
As above, why bother with a limited "NAS", when a full computer costs less ?




Oooh, oooh, I can answer this question because I just built one of these...

Right...

"Why not?"

Oooh. Where to begin.

OK. First... the elusive '£50 Atom motherboard' and the '£50 tiny case.' Giving you a whole PC for £100?

Terrible math. If you were building an Atom based computer you'd be a fool to build an Atom230 based machine. You'd want an Atom330 based machine. Wave bye-bye to that £50 mobo. Don't forget to add VAT and delivery.

And as for £50 cases? Two words. They're crap.

More to the point think about the logic of the inclusion of a 'tiny case.' Any idea how big a couple of quality 3.5inch 1.5TB hard drives are, in order to make a RAID array actually worthwhile? How many of those 'tiny' miniITX cases actually fit a few 'easy to fit' SATA hard drives in em? You could get a much larger ATX case, and have the added bonus of needing a more expensive PSU, draining more power and making more noise, so that you can run those full size SATA hard drives... But now your 'full computer' takes up 'full computer' space, and not the tiny ReadyNAS Duo which is about as big as two decent sized external HDD's put back to back.

The nearest you'll get to matching the functionality of the ReadyNAS is to use say the Chenbro MiniITX NAS server case with the removable hot swap drive bays. It's nice. It's cute. But its also not going to be yours for less than £180.

Then there's your £100 computer. That would be without RAM, without storage, and without a DVD drive, would it? Plus 'your choice of operating system'... Well, you can't buy WHS legally, so you're talking about Windows Server or Windows Server. Oh, or OS X Server. Or a free 'take you a year to configure it and forget about troubleshooting it' linux server distribution. Or FreeNAS which works when it wants to and if it doesn't, God help you.

Did I mention that your Atom mobo is limited to two SATA channels and an IDE channel? Where are you going to put the additional SATA card or a DECENT RAID card - you don't get 'RAID' reliability for £10 on ebay.

I just built a 'max power' 2Gb Atom330 machine for home internet access use in about the best miniITX case that reasonable money can buy, and its quiet, and low power... but it also knows its limitations, cost a small fortune (£230 not including Windows XP) and knows that it can't remotely compete with a £160 ReadyNAS with two full size removable drive bays, a dedicated OS functioning at full speed and full capacity as a NAS.

I assure you, if you're serious about your IT, you would NOT be building an Atom based anything to run 'multiple' server functions on. It would choke. It would fall down laughing at you. It is an appliance for entry level basic computing only, or embedded applications (single purpose boxes). If you were building a computer for multiple server features, you wouldn't use an Atom, you wouldn't limit yourself to 2GB RAM, you would be running Windows Server 2008, you would be using full size hard drives, and having it run in a 'tiny' case would be deemed to be suicide because of the heat build up from the drive access and if you wanted RAID, you'd be using a dedicated hardware card.

So. Why bother with a dedicated NAS?

1. It's cheaper. Your '£100 MiniITX' is a non comparable, badly thought out fantasy. It doesn't exist.
2. It's faster. Your £100 MiniITX, if it existed, would be able to function only on a single 2.5 inch SATA hard drive at 5400rpm if you were to actually stick to your claim of it being small, low power, quiet, low heat 'like a dedicated NAS box'...
3. It's more expandable and doesn't require unscrewing and recabling in order to change hard drives.
4. It can run full tilt without wondering whether the CPU is about to choke. It does exactly what it was built for.
5. It can probably run more simultaneous features than your Atom can. I'm guessing you've not checked out the repository of ReadyNAS add-on's available for free on the Netgear website before making your claims.
6. It's easier. No building. No installing. No real configuring. No endless troubleshooting. Open the box, unpackage the ReadyNAS, plug it in, load hard drives into the caddies, slide them into place, let the ReadyNAS do the formatting and mirroring. Couldn't be easier. If it breaks, get Netgear to fix it. No worrying about which of the eight different self-sourced parts might have gone 'pop' and whether somehow you pushed it beyond its intended limits...

No comparison.

Get a ReadyNAS.
#36
welshblob
Yeah I populated mine with the 1.5TB seagates ...... NetGear seriously need to approve another manufacturers 1.5TB disk as one of my seagates has reallocated sectors 3 times now. I'm not impressed as the drives I'm used to are normally rock solid.

I will take this one back to Novatech in the near future and get a replacement .... which i hope works!

Rob


I'd do a search on the ReadyNAS forums. There are users out there who are reporting personal success with 'non approved' drives...
#37
welshblob
Yeah I populated mine with the 1.5TB seagates ...... NetGear seriously need to approve another manufacturers 1.5TB disk as one of my seagates has reallocated sectors 3 times now. I'm not impressed as the drives I'm used to are normally rock solid.

I will take this one back to Novatech in the near future and get a replacement .... which i hope works!

Rob


And yes.... the reallocated sectors seems to be a symptom of 'Seagate' disease. Don't forget, though, that your Seagate's have a five year warranty, I think... They're supposed to be pretty 'no quibble' about replacing them. Some don't like the fact that replacements might be refurbs, but as long as they keep offering the warranty, 'refurb' means only one thing to me.... 'fixed.'

It's like buying a 3 year old car and knowing that the major design faults and failures have already been worked out...
#38
I suppose you can't run a website on this NAS?

I think one can on this:
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Synology-DS209-Feature-rich-2-bay-SATA-NAS-Server-for-Workgroups-and-Offices

Am I right there?
#39
SampleX
I'd do a search on the ReadyNAS forums. There are users out there who are reporting personal success with 'non approved' drives...


SampleX
And yes.... the reallocated sectors seems to be a symptom of 'Seagate' disease. Don't forget, though, that your Seagate's have a five year warranty, I think... They're supposed to be pretty 'no quibble' about replacing them. Some don't like the fact that replacements might be refurbs, but as long as they keep offering the warranty, 'refurb' means only one thing to me.... 'fixed.'

It's like buying a 3 year old car and knowing that the major design faults and failures have already been worked out...


Yeah I read the forums and debated whether to get a WD drive. However as I wanted a solution that was properly supported by netgear I decided to get the seagate drives. Part of getting a NAS and RAID'ing the disks is that I wanted to feel there is some protection of my data over using single drives. However I'm not too impressed with the seagate drives so far and although the 3yr (?) warranty is good I think you have to pay the postage to get them to seagate for a replacement as well.

Rob
#40
aaron1uk
I suppose you can't run a website on this NAS?

I think one can on this:
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Synology-DS209-Feature-rich-2-bay-SATA-NAS-Server-for-Workgroups-and-Offices

Am I right there?



Nope. RAIDiator allows you to configure your ReadyNAS to 'run a website' and you can even install a third-party engineered version of Drupal CMS on it. The big question is 'why' would you want to since you'll never get the throughput over a DSL connection of even the cheapest web hosting solution...

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