Netgear ReadyNAS NV+ (RND4250 2x500gb) £477.79 after quidco, cashback, voucher - HotUKDeals
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I've been looking for a good price on the ReadyNAS NV+ and think i've found the best one due to current promotions.

Play.com already have it at a fairly good price of £579.99

Then use attached voucher for 5% off making it £550.99

quidco at 4% = £23.20

And netgear are currently running a promotion for £50 cashback.
http://www.netgear.co.uk/cashback_promotion2.php

Other ReadyNAS NV+ models (except diskless) are in promotion but the RND4250 offers best GB/£ and upgrade potential as two free drive bays are left.
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#1
The irony is you can probably knock together your own fully functioning PC with 2 500gb drives for the money!

PC having the additional bonus of being able to run a web server, print server, media server etc...
#2
or get 2x500gig usb drives and a linksys nslu2
#3
johncas
The irony is you can probably knock together your own fully functioning PC with 2 500gb drives for the money!

PC having the additional bonus of being able to run a web server, print server, media server etc...


No probably about it. You could knock up a 6TB server for that easily. Lets be honest, servers don't actually need any processing power. Only advantage on this is the size. Is it worth the premium? To me most definitely not.
#4
johncas
The irony is you can probably knock together your own fully functioning PC with 2 500gb drives for the money!

PC having the additional bonus of being able to run a web server, print server, media server etc...


Although this is true, it is no where as easy as setting this device up. Plug your drives in and your ready to go. Also, this thing is deceptively small, hide it away and forget about it. A great price for a great machine.

dnc
or get 2x500gig usb drives and a linksys nslu2


Yeah, because that can run many different RAID configs :whistling:

Voted hot, even though i already have one

Shengis
No probably about it. You could knock up a 6TB server for that easily. Lets be honest, servers don't actually need any processing power. Only advantage on this is the size. Is it worth the premium? To me most definitely not.


Processing power does help when your running a RAID config
#5
Ha Ha.

Yes, a PC could be knocked together and how much power would it use?

As for a media server, web server etc. This device has all that built in.

Linksys device with 2 USB drives. Don't even get me started, that doesn't offer the storage control this unit has, including support for RSync etc.

I don't expect it to be voted cold based on what else you can build the amount of money. This is a good price for this device.
#6
JayBird
Processing power does help when your running a RAID config


As would an extra pair of drives in this, which would take it way beyond the £477.
#7
Shengis
As would an extra pair of drives in this, which would take it way beyond the £477.


Why would you need an extra PAIR of drives?
#8
JayBird
Why would you need an extra PAIR of drives?


Explain to me what you can do with the 2 it comes with?
#9
Shengis
Explain to me what you can do with the 2 it comes with?


Tell me why you need an extra 2...1 will suffice :thumbsup:
#10
IMHO, while this device is good, the price is unjustified. Also, since when is it allowed to add Quidco (which is a kind of a gamble really) to price?

Now, to the price issue. To compare it to PC/Server is difficult.
- Easy of use: Infrant/Netgear wins. Are you prepared to install FreeNAS or ClarkConnect on your own and configure it properly on PC? For easy of use Netgear/Infrant wins.
- Hotswap SATA: something which is not normally needed for home users. However, adding proper hot swap cage to PC (if its SATA controller supporting hot-swap) is not cheap. Here too Netgear/Infrant wins.
- UPnP AV server: Installing UPnP AV server on PC is a matter of minutes, including those to be run under Linux. However, PC is more flexible here as not all UPnP AV servers are equal. PC wins.
- FTP, HTTP server: Similar to previous item.
- Expansion. PC wins as it is more expandable (second RAID controller, more HDDs, etc).
- Power consumption: PC can be configured to go to sleep mode every time it is not needed (spin down disks, switch to low power, etc). So the power issue is not a problem here.
- Price: PC wins.

Those are my thoughts and that's why I decided to go for HP Proliant instead of these things. I know it is much more time consuming but that's the whole fun :) For this kind of money I can have fully featured server with hardware RAID and 4TB on it.

BTW, Linksys device can work with more than 2 USB drives (I've got it working with 5, totalling 2.5TB overall). And yes, it got rsync. No hardware RAID though.


JayBird

So you finally made your choice and went for Infrant? Congrats! :)
#11
If you have that kind of money and want a NAS then I suggest you buy one of these instead.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/productinfo.asp?WebProductID=605399

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=774469

Use the money saved to get some discs.

Or if all you need is 2 500Gb drives then save even more and get the 2 bay versions instead and save over £150 from the netgear price. Plus you get the added bonus of choosing your own drives.

Both of those offer much better performance and features than the Netgear.

Voted cold, sorry.
#12
JayBird
Tell me why you need an extra 2...1 will suffice :thumbsup:


Oh I agree, I could have worded it better, but 25% overhead is better than 33%;-)

As it stands (feel free to correct me)...

Raid 0. 1 drive dies, you lose the lot. Pretty pointless unless all you want is speed.
Raid 1. £477 for a 500GB drive (basically), but you know your data's (reasonably) safe.
Raid 5. £477+£x?, which is what you really want for this.

Fair comment?
#13
I don't think that going for CS-407e is a good idea. It is inferior to its sibling CS-407 (without "e").
#14
Shengis
Explain to me what you can do with the 2 it comes with?


As your storage requirements grow, you can just add drive to it without any need to back up and rebuild array (if using X RAID), still keeping redundancy should a drive fail. When 1tb drives come down in price and your storage needs grow further, you can then swap the drives one by one and it will automatically rebuild array. You can do this even whilst is still switched on serving files etc.
#15
looks like a washing machine

:w00t:
#16
Kommunist
I don't think that going for CS-407e is a good idea. It is inferior to its sibling CS-407 (without "e").


The black 407 is the same price, I couldn't remember which was the better one, so gambled on e.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/productinfo.asp?WebProductID=605398

Saying that I think Id still rather the 407e than the netgear, at that price. Any idea the difference in the processors in the netgear and the e?
#17
Kommunist
So you finally made your choice and went for Infrant? Congrats! :)


Not for my home server mate, still weighing up my options. I am using the ReadyNAS in our office at work. :thumbsup:
#18
I did say you can get this as a diskless version. However, this is not included in the netgear cashback promotion.

Knowing that it comes with seagate ES drives which would be my choice anyway.

Re: PC, HP proliant with 4tb. It would cost you in the region of £600 for 4 x 1tb enterprise drives.

Power control, ReadyNAS can be scheduled to switch on and and switch off each day. Although a PC can sleep, whilst machine is in use it will use a lot more power than the readynas.
#19
Broadsword
If you have that kind of money and want a NAS then I suggest you buy one of these instead.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/productinfo.asp?WebProductID=605399

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=774469

Use the money saved to get some discs.

Or if all you need is 2 500Gb drives then save even more and get the 2 bay versions instead and save over £150 from the netgear price. Plus you get the added bonus of choosing your own drives.

Both of those offer much better performance and features than the Netgear.

Voted cold, sorry.


I did consider the QNAP 409 Pro, but I came to the conclusion that the ReadyNAS was better, although agree not as many features. However, these can easily be added.
#20
smashmouse


Knowing that it comes with seagate ES drives which would be my choice anyway.



Where does it say that? Are you sure? It may be WD drives now.

http://www.mpcclub.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=15600

Anyway, if you haven't already (which Im sure you have), do some research on the Qnap's and the synology's in comparison with the netgear just to make sure you're getting the most bang for your buck.

[url]www.mpcclub.com[/url] has a lot of reviews and info on these things.
#21
Broadsword

Saying that I think Id still rather the 407e than the netgear, at that price. Any idea the difference in the processors in the netgear and the e?

Here is throughput comparison:
http://www.synology.com/enu/products/CS407e/perf.php
And this is spec comparison:
http://www.synology.com/enu/products/compare_spec.php

As you can see, the "e" version seriosly slower than the one without "e". BTW, you can get CS-407e quite cheaply: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?SYN-CS407E

smashmouse

Re: PC, HP proliant with 4tb. It would cost you in the region of £600 for 4 x 1tb enterprise drives.

Same case here. If you want to build 4TB server (and why would you want to stick to 2TB anyway?) you'll have to add 4 TB x 115 quid each (rough calculation), which bring this guy to 1000 quid price region.

Power control, ReadyNAS can be scheduled to switch on and and switch off each day. Although a PC can sleep, whilst machine is in use it will use a lot more power than the readynas.

Same with Proliant. WOL and all that. I agree that in normal operation it'll consume much more power than Netgear. However, it depends on operation environment - in SOHO it is rarely used 24x7 @ 100%.
#22
Broadsword
Where does it say that? Are you sure? It may be WD drives now.

http://www.mpcclub.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=15600

Anyway, if you haven't already (which Im sure you have), do some research on the Qnap's and the synology's in comparison with the netgear just to make sure you're getting the most bang for your buck.

[url]www.mpcclub.com[/url] has a lot of reviews and info on these things.


OK, granted it doesn't state that. Most of them have been coming with them, but appreciate it may come with the WD drives, either way, it will be drives that have warranty to be used 24x7.

I did look at a few, including some Thecus models. I've already got a 2 bay Thecus N2100 but wanted a 4 disk one to gradually grow without need to change the disks.

I know i'm not getting most disk space for my money, but following reviews from various sites the Readynas comes out good. I normally don't touch netgear stuff, but since it's really infrant with a netgear badge I thought i'd give it a go. qnap 409 pro was a close choice, but after buying disks it would be more expensive than this deal.

Although i'm capable of building a server for my needs, I wanted low power and ease of use. I have enough work to do without maintaining my own server.
#23
Odd - according to forum there was a reply posted by smashmouse but it doesn't show up?
#24
Kommunist
Odd - according to forum there was a reply posted by smashmouse but it doesn't show up?


Yeah, i noticed that too
#25
You can delete a post just after entering it and people get the email notification but when they come to the site to read/reply it's as if it never existed. I think this has to be done within a very short time span of posting it.
#26
Agharta
You can delete a post just after entering it and people get the email notification but when they come to the site to read/reply it's as if it never existed. I think this has to be done within a very short time span of posting it.


Yes, but i didnt get an email, it said it on the forum. I think the site doesn't update instantly, and updates thread listings periodically
#27
I think that email notification system could not be relied on. Sometimes it works for me, sometimes it doesn't despite me being subscribed to this thread.

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